Thank's for the video. Great airplane. I did my first 500 twin engine hours on the 421C back in 1988. To this day I remember how safe it felt. I would recommend this particular 421C. It's a piece of art in excellent condition. Regards from Switzrland. R
It's been a while sine last checking in with Rich here - probably one of the top couple percent of aviators for sure, and a pleasure to watch. I was just thinking that he wears the aircraft like a custom-tailored suit. There are pilots, drivers and horsemen like that who make it all look so easy.
I can vouch that it’s a fantastic platform to upgrade and a pleasure to fly! Also will say the training with Rich, Danny and OCR is second to none. Great looking and low time so congrats to the lucky new owner when that day comes!
I just finished my 45th hour and will do practical exam soon. Dreaming about owning 421c. Thanks for the great videos and insights. It would be coolto see a video about your experience, what brought you to aviation and also some journey tips for us who are just getting started.
There is a startup company in Australia that was developing 300hp - 500hp turbine engines that were at a ~$70k target price. The object was to replace piston engines on older light aircraft. I haven't checked on them in a long time, but they used to show up at Osh. A nice 421 GE like this one might be a perfect candidate for one (actually 2 LOL)! I can't remember the name, but I'll look. Thanks Rich! --gary
That’s interesting. I wonder how many 421 owners would convert to turbine power?? Seems like if a 421 owner wanted turbines they’d just trade up to a Cessna 441. However, there’s a lot of other piston singles that would be perfect for a turbine conversion. There were a couple of companies that would do that here in the states but not sure if they’re still around.
@@mouser485 The big thing about that new turbine was the price, $70- maybe $90k for 300-500hp new! The last I knew, a rebuild kit from P&W for a PT6 was about $400k !! That new turbine is in the piston price range. If they got it certified, that would be a game changer! It's small size/HP and cost is perfect for piston replacement. Run Jet_A and not av-gas, that's a big deal also. JMHO 8) Peace --gary
@@mouser485 You're probably thinking of Innodyne. I saw their engines at oshkosh many years ago and it seemed like a great concept, but they couldn't overcome the financial and engineering hurdles and the company went bankrupt. Turbines are wonderful ( I own an Mu2 with Garretts) but the acquisition and repair costs can be high. On average, I think they pencil out pretty well compared to something like the GTSIO's on a 421, but when the bills do come, they can be eye watering.
I flew two C-421's and found they are my favorite plane to operate. All the bad things that others claim are not true. It is a very great airplane to fly that does everything right. One of my corporate owners upgraded from a C-414 and found the cost to operate the C-421 was equal or less than the C-414. It's an airplane that deliver more long term value over most twins. It must be flown by a professional with the Geared Engine that does not like throttle jockey abuse. You must plan all your climb and descents well in advance with power on to just before landing touch down. No other piston twin is more satisfying with large props and the sound of geared engines than the C-421. The owner sold the plane years later, and soon after it was totaled while landing on a closed runway
The Cessna 425s are great, too, but I really love the aesthetics of the engine cowls on the 421C. The geared piston engines have lower TBOs than direct-drive engines, but the props are quieter, and it gives the nacelle a unique appearance. The airplane looks great on the ramp and in the air.
Climbing up the Aviation Ladder I flew the 21C a good bit. Very stable and comfortable aircraft. Had to stay aware of engine shock but that is just good required management. Very quiet and smooth. Maint Schedule was a bit ruff. But all in all the apex of the Cessna Cabin Class Recip. Right behind it was the 14A.
I'm glad you didn't record ATC com. That drives me nuts on other channels when the pilot gets stepped on constantly and you miss a good part of what they are saying. Thanks for the video.
Hey Rich- Not judging here, but on a piston twin…isn’t it prudent to keep your hand on the levers while on your t/o roll through rotation just in case one motor $#!+s the bed? Again, not judging…but curious! Thx
Rich. If I lived closer I would offer to film your videos for free just to get some SIC experience with you. Seattle is a little commute. If you’re ever up here though I would welcome to meet up. Commercial rated 2000 hours, Seaplane rating, flew twin Cessna, C90 King Air, Merlin and lots of singles. Cheers and great videos. Erwin
So I know your sites are mostly what you’re selling. However would be interesting to get your take on 421 c compared to conquest. Conquest compared to king air 90. Like for the size and usability for smaller turboprop to piston. Would be nice to see.
Are those geared motors noticeably quieter than the non geared motors?? I believe that’s the point of the gearing which is to slow the tips of the props in order to reduce noise ? If that’s the reason, I just wonder how big of a difference it is between geared and non geared.
Great flight. What a pro. So relaxed. You're like me, fumbling with two pair of glasses. Get some progressive sunglasses with light tint. They're great for flying.
@@GWN90 - 😂. Made more small airplane mechanics careers a living than any other airplane. Their kids colleges thank you…. Expense due to inexperience operator error. From sheared starter shafts ($5,500) to reduction gear cases and internals. The saying here is, a 421 engine is like a hand grenade, and every time you start one, you pull the pin….. good luck….
@@GWN90 - well, the only way you quantify that is by maintenance records and downtime. Blow $90k on a motor and 3 months, not counting annual inspections. Compare it to an E90. Especially with todays prices… you will be surprised how close they are with similar annual usage. Then compare reliability with a 414a. It is sub par… And, hard to find experienced operators for a stepping stone airplane…. Be prepared to open the checkbook… just the way it is…
@@GWN90 - which brings us to the kiss of death…… not having one or two pilots, rather having a pool of day rate guys and girls that occasionally do trips for you. They are there for the money, and all have non standardized procedures. Its a “get the job done” mentality. There is a one to one correlation between multi-pilot flown twin Cessna’s, and maintenance time/expense. That plane needs one pilot with TLC, like a horse… which just doesn’t fit with todays flying reality… would you buy a Ferrari, then let all your friends drive it and grind thru the gears? It is not one of Cessnas better offerings…..
@tobberfutooagain2628 Everyone has their own experience but your’s is certainly different than what I have experienced. In my opinion, the 421s are no different than any airplane, same with the engines - maintain/operate them properly and they will do just fine. I know very experienced twin Cessna mechanics who would choose a 421 over the other twin Cessna’s every time based on their experience maintaining all of them. 421’s are easy airplanes for people to regurgitate the ‘geared engine expensive to maintain’, and ‘hand grenade’ comments - I have heard them all so many times, but mostly just sound bites people repeat with little or no real experience. I have more time in 421s than any other twin Cessna, propeller driven twins period for that matter, and the only engine failure I have ever had is not in a 421!
Amazing that Rich can fly anything. This flight looked like he is in this plane every day!
Thank you!
Beautiful plane, well modded. Glass panel is an absolute must for the beast. Glad to see Rich back in left seat and PIC again
You make it look effortless. 👍
Jimmy is dialing in the one he bought. Awesome aircraft.
Beautiful video beautiful Golden Eagle. I've said in once and I'll say it a thousand times LOVE the sound of those geared engines. Thank you!
Beautiful airplane, I liked the close up shots as you started the engines. And you did a great job shooting the whole flight yourself. Safe travels
Thank you!
That is a gorgeous aircraft!!
Thank's for the video. Great airplane. I did my first 500 twin engine hours on the 421C back in 1988. To this day I remember how safe it felt. I would recommend this particular 421C. It's a piece of art in excellent condition. Regards from Switzrland. R
That wing camera caught some awesome video.
I used to fly 421LC. They are beautiful flying planes
421LookingGood. Beautiful plane, great views. Thank you for letting me "fly along" on this beautiful summer evening.
@@vanderheijden1 Thank you!
It's been a while sine last checking in with Rich here - probably one of the top couple percent of aviators for sure, and a pleasure to watch. I was just thinking that he wears the aircraft like a custom-tailored suit. There are pilots, drivers and horsemen like that who make it all look so easy.
I can vouch that it’s a fantastic platform to upgrade and a pleasure to fly! Also will say the training with Rich, Danny and OCR is second to none. Great looking and low time so congrats to the lucky new owner when that day comes!
Thanks Brad - hope all is well!
Fantastic video. That’s a beautiful plane Rich.
I just finished my 45th hour and will do practical exam soon. Dreaming about owning 421c. Thanks for the great videos and insights.
It would be coolto see a video about your experience, what brought you to aviation and also some journey tips for us who are just getting started.
Glad to hear you’re getting your PPL. Obtained mine years ago and it was one of the best decisions of my life. Good luck !
@@mouser485 its so awesome! Thanks and good luck to you, too!
@@InfinityProjector Maybe I will do that soon - thanks for watching!
Great Video As Always, Man! I Love To Watch You Livin' The Dream! I Think The Panel Looks Fine, But I'm Old! Thank You. (Like #95)
Thanks for another great video. Enjoyed the fly along.
@@gregc6661 thank you!
Awesome video Rich! That bird is going to be a jewel when brought up to 55RL standards.
Agree - thanks for watching!
Really enjoyed watching that engine start up
You have a very enviable job!
Rich in a 421, turn up the volume and listen to those “Gitso’s” purr…. Never gets old…
Really nice plane Rich. Thanks for the ride along.
Thank you!
Beutiful evening flight in a primo 421...
Thx Rich
Fantastic video! Love the 421.
There is a startup company in Australia that was developing 300hp - 500hp turbine engines that were at a ~$70k target price. The object was to replace piston engines on older light aircraft. I haven't checked on them in a long time, but they used to show up at Osh. A nice 421 GE like this one might be a perfect candidate for one (actually 2 LOL)! I can't remember the name, but I'll look. Thanks Rich! --gary
That’s interesting. I wonder how many 421 owners would convert to turbine power?? Seems like if a 421 owner wanted turbines they’d just trade up to a Cessna 441. However, there’s a lot of other piston singles that would be perfect for a turbine conversion. There were a couple of companies that would do that here in the states but not sure if they’re still around.
@@mouser485 The big thing about that new turbine was the price, $70- maybe $90k for 300-500hp new! The last I knew, a rebuild kit from P&W for a PT6 was about $400k !! That new turbine is in the piston price range. If they got it certified, that would be a game changer! It's small size/HP and cost is perfect for piston replacement. Run Jet_A and not av-gas, that's a big deal also. JMHO 8) Peace --gary
@gtr1952 thanks for the message - would be great to see engine like that become reality!
@@mouser485 You're probably thinking of Innodyne. I saw their engines at oshkosh many years ago and it seemed like a great concept, but they couldn't overcome the financial and engineering hurdles and the company went bankrupt. Turbines are wonderful ( I own an Mu2 with Garretts) but the acquisition and repair costs can be high. On average, I think they pencil out pretty well compared to something like the GTSIO's on a 421, but when the bills do come, they can be eye watering.
I flew two C-421's and found they are my favorite plane to operate. All the bad things that others claim are not true. It is a very great airplane to fly that does everything right. One of my corporate owners upgraded from a C-414 and found the cost to operate the C-421 was equal or less than the C-414. It's an airplane that deliver more long term value over most twins. It must be flown by a professional with the Geared Engine that does not like throttle jockey abuse. You must plan all your climb and descents well in advance with power on to just before landing touch down. No other piston twin is more satisfying with large props and the sound of geared engines than the C-421. The owner sold the plane years later, and soon after it was totaled while landing on a closed runway
Thanks for the message!
BEAUTIFUL AIRCRAFT ... goals!
You are having too much fun Rich!
Hey Bill!
The Cessna 425s are great, too, but I really love the aesthetics of the engine cowls on the 421C. The geared piston engines have lower TBOs than direct-drive engines, but the props are quieter, and it gives the nacelle a unique appearance. The airplane looks great on the ramp and in the air.
Beautiful airplanes for sure and the cowlings really add to it. Thanks for watching!
Nice flight, Rich. Thank you!!
Thank you!
Climbing up the Aviation Ladder I flew the 21C a good bit. Very stable and comfortable aircraft. Had to stay aware of engine shock but that is just
good required management. Very quiet and smooth. Maint Schedule was a bit ruff. But all in all the apex of the Cessna Cabin Class Recip. Right
behind it was the 14A.
Greetings from Norway. Great as usual, thank you Rich -
Greetings - thanks for watching!
Appreciate the intro music delete. Another good find Rich
great airplanes. Always like these 421's
Genius!!!!! Wonderful !!!! 🦾🧿✈☝🏼👍🏼🙋♂👌🏼
Nice Ride and Oratory Rich...Definitely like the 400 Series Cessna's ';-)
@@N98858 such fine airplanes!
Rich, holy moly that instrument panel looks really busy man. One might need a PhD to understand all those gizmos. Nie looking plane in any event.
@@TheRange7 Thanks pretty busy indeed but I love those older panels - especially when they actually work!
👍🏻😎Definitely one of my favorites.
I'm glad you didn't record ATC com.
That drives me nuts on other channels when the pilot gets stepped on constantly and you miss a good part of what they are saying.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Sir.
Great video as always Rich! You should look into getting the ray bans meta glasses so you can record stuff hands free!
Thanks for the tip!
Great bird to refurb at the right price point!!!
Awesome thanks 🙏🏼 for the video 📸 Rich ✈️🛫🛬🛩️🎬🇺🇸
@@aldohattonduran5227 thanks for watching!
Ooooh I just saw startup. Sweeeet
Hey Rich- Not judging here, but on a piston twin…isn’t it prudent to keep your hand on the levers while on your t/o roll through rotation just in case one motor $#!+s the bed? Again, not judging…but curious! Thx
Sure - that’s a good technique.
Like the new cutting+lensing, these are the best on youtube! (For us who grew as brats on airports ;) )
Thank you!
It belongs in a museum
What a life!
Rich. If I lived closer I would offer to film your videos for free just to get some SIC experience with you. Seattle is a little commute. If you’re ever up here though I would welcome to meet up. Commercial rated 2000 hours, Seaplane rating, flew twin Cessna, C90 King Air, Merlin and lots of singles. Cheers and great videos. Erwin
Thanks. I’ll let you know next time!
So I know your sites are mostly what you’re selling. However would be interesting to get your take on 421 c compared to conquest. Conquest compared to king air 90. Like for the size and usability for smaller turboprop to piston. Would be nice to see.
Excellent
Humming along.
Would a 4 Bladed MT Prop make a difference
Are those geared motors noticeably quieter than the non geared motors?? I believe that’s the point of the gearing which is to slow the tips of the props in order to reduce noise ? If that’s the reason, I just wonder how big of a difference it is between geared and non geared.
Noticeably quieter on the geared engines.
Great flight. What a pro. So relaxed. You're like me, fumbling with two pair of glasses. Get some progressive sunglasses with light tint. They're great for flying.
@@billfly2186 I’m working on that - thanks for watching!
Just a touch of prime. A touch
It’s all in the stout design
It’s like a pilatus or tbm but twin
Think how fast that thing will pick up speed on descent
Yay!
What’s the website for sales ?
@@ridewot controller.com but this one is not listed yet.
Specs please 😊
@@rodelc644 send me an e-mail and I will get you specs. Thanks for watching!
Even salvage value is high
I think Sam Walton zoomed around in a 421. No airport no walmart
You are correct!
The citation mustang of it's day, when the rich of the rich had lears, now they have globals.
👍
@@FlightSimDude 👍
Junk….
By a King Air….
@@GWN90 - 😂. Made more small airplane mechanics careers a living than any other airplane. Their kids colleges thank you…. Expense due to inexperience operator error. From sheared starter shafts ($5,500) to reduction gear cases and internals. The saying here is, a 421 engine is like a hand grenade, and every time you start one, you pull the pin….. good luck….
@@GWN90 - well, the only way you quantify that is by maintenance records and downtime. Blow $90k on a motor and 3 months, not counting annual inspections. Compare it to an E90. Especially with todays prices… you will be surprised how close they are with similar annual usage. Then compare reliability with a 414a. It is sub par…
And, hard to find experienced operators for a stepping stone airplane…. Be prepared to open the checkbook… just the way it is…
@@GWN90 - which brings us to the kiss of death…… not having one or two pilots, rather having a pool of day rate guys and girls that occasionally do trips for you. They are there for the money, and all have non standardized procedures. Its a “get the job done” mentality.
There is a one to one correlation between multi-pilot flown twin Cessna’s, and maintenance time/expense. That plane needs one pilot with TLC, like a horse… which just doesn’t fit with todays flying reality… would you buy a Ferrari, then let all your friends drive it and grind thru the gears?
It is not one of Cessnas better offerings…..
@tobberfutooagain2628 Everyone has their own experience but your’s is certainly different than what I have experienced. In my opinion, the 421s are no different than any airplane, same with the engines - maintain/operate them properly and they will do just fine. I know very experienced twin Cessna mechanics who would choose a 421 over the other twin Cessna’s every time based on their experience maintaining all of them. 421’s are easy airplanes for people to regurgitate the ‘geared engine expensive to maintain’, and ‘hand grenade’ comments - I have heard them all so many times, but mostly just sound bites people repeat with little or no real experience. I have more time in 421s than any other twin Cessna, propeller driven twins period for that matter, and the only engine failure I have ever had is not in a 421!
@@FlyingwithRich - thats great. Hope the rest of your flying is the same. Stats and facts show differently, but its your money….
Owen just posted a flight in a 421G
Geared engines, adds $$ to upkeep. tbo approaching? Adding $150,000 to panel, is big money.
Not my experience with geared engines. “big money” is relative.
Well said!