Were you guys aware of how big of a factor this was in your saves? Let me know down below! Don't forget to like and subscribe if you enjoyed the video and feel free to come check out my channel as we push for 1250 subs with our are save just getting underway! Have a great day everyone! - Jake
It helps raise their standards and then hopefully from there it can help raise their consistency if they can perform better! Ive been using this trick since I heard about it its something I didn't do often enough! - Jake
Finally something I really didn't know yet in FM! :D I thought the only way to improve it is giving them game-time. Another important point is that you let your first-team-players playing together for several games, so they get used to each other. Then you will have "double-consistency" (team-cohesion) :P
hi mate im glad it helped, something to take notice of for sure! Discipline = heightened performances - heightened performances = consistency increases over time! - Jake
@@fmscout exactly! Nice side-effect of discipline your players : If you discipline your players often it will be added to your managers personality too. I am known as a "strictly disciplinarian" :D
For me, inconsistency and doesn’t enjoy big matches puts me off signing any player. Never seem to be able to reverse those traits myself with mentoring either
I find having a few model citizen and high professional personalities within your squad help with inconsistent over time. The player has a higher chance of modelling them personalities and get rid of the inconsistency, although this happens a lot for younger players but older players I don’t think it works as much. This doesn’t always 100% but it helps
Paolo Dybala. Doesn't enjoy big match either. even though my scouts give 100% rating and said he is world class player. sign whatever the costs. still didn't buy him.
@@lordwaleane5397 I bought him for £100million. To replace Firmino, maybe a bit to much but he does well for me, around 30 goals per season for a few season. Tbh in one of my saves I bought Harland for £100 million and he isn’t as good as I though he would be. I tried everything, from tactics to criticism and praise.
Yes good advice. I'm quite a tough manager and fine players for poor performance. If they continue I then threaten to drop them. Final straw is dropping and bring them on as sub. Found overtime this works.
Inconsistent players are typically younger and grow in consistency over time. I think it's a nice touch by SI as it's realistic that older experienced players are more reliable.
Dude please make your videos shorter, I was really interested but hearing you say the same things over and over again to stretch the video to 17 min is really exhausting. There is content for 5 mins in this video and the rest is just useless. Try to think about what u wanna say before making the video and keep more information in lesser time please. You lost me after 8 minutes. The content is a good find nontheless.
I dunno if you know this ... but this is youtube ... all videos are all pre recorded sooooo you can actually move this little slider on the video to the point you want and then just watch the part you want ... i know it may be a shock but maybe give it a shot .
Funny things about consistency player is they always paired with "easily injured" trait in my save and i can only play them 3 matches and then the rest of the season is just them sleeping in the hospital.
I've picked this up since FM20. I rate a player with "low stats" or "lower rated" that is consistent than someone "better" that isn't because they turn up more and do the job needed. Sometimes the reports won't always show this feedback, and you have to look at their playing (season) stats to find out. Never knew how to improve the consistency and that was great to find out.
consistency affects you''re mental attributes, if you have worst inconsistency on it's worst day it will be a point drop in all mental attributes across the board. consistency can't be trained or mentored, it's not a personality, it does slowly increase over age at about a rate of like 5-ish points over ten years maybe slightly more(it's a 1-20 attribute for reference)
As far as I remember (in older FM versions) a player being inconsistent was more a ‘run of games’ rather than match by match. That’s why I used to drop strikers to reserves if they started to dry up. Since Fm 20 I won’t sign anyone who shows up as red or orange for inconsistency.
I've been playing since FM18. I always thought I was being a hard ass for giving them the business after bad games. Thank you for giving my overzealousness some validity! 😂😂😂
My top scorer from last season developed the con “doesn’t enjoy big games”. Is it still worth keeping him as a consistent starter and is there a way to get rid of this?
I have got Erling in my save and his consistency was great which reflected it his rating 7,59 on average. But his form was inconsistent, sometimes he had below 6,5 and sometimes he bang some goals which later on increased his average rating. What should i do? Cheers.
What you're saying makes sense but I've had some players who've had terrible consitency but is insane day in day out Like I had a left back who played a 7.9 average rating in La Liga while being fairly inconsistent
The player I have that I feel is the most inconsistent has bright green consistency and light green for big matches. Still has some games where he just cant score from 20 chances. How do I improve him? Still playing FM20 by the way
On the xbox version, there is no option to 'discuss' to help manage consistency. Would you still buy Youssoufa Moukoko that has an Amber inconsistent trait upon scouting? (applies to any other outstanding wonderkid in the xbox version)
I knew Consistency is important but idk it affect this much, have to look out which world class player to loan next time, I played Bissouma and he performed much better than Julian Brandt, yes they're different position but the rating are 0.5 apart after half a season
If a player gets less than 6.5in training or a match I criticise him but I do it at the end of match team talk on the individual tab and praise over 7.5. Do you think the team talk one works as well as the out of game one? BTW I didn't do this knowing could help with consistency. I just thought it made them put more effort in training.
Out of game one involves discipline so I would class as separate to in game, don't know that for definite though so maybe test it out next time you have a bad performance. And yes it helps them play better in game which can therefore help improve his consistency mate! - Jake
@@fmscout I don't recall who I heard this from but it's also been suggested that playing regularly along with the discipline is necessary. You can't be consistent playing once a month. Similarly pressure aka big matches can be improved the more you play a player on them? Not sure how much data backs these bit it was a reputable source.
I actually consider this as a flaw in the game. Consistency shouldn't equal playing above your level. I found the explanation of it in the video little weird to be honest. A championship level player shouldn't be able to get those rating as in premier league that often since the level of play is above him. I do understand if a player is premier league level and consistency would affect the ratings, and that's great realism but that shouldn't mean a consistent league 2 player can get 7+ ratings on constant bases in premier league
It's good because this means some really good players, such as Dybala, underperform despite having all the attributes to be a top player. And others, for example Wilson, can put in top performances despite not being that good. It adds variety and rng which is good for the balance of the game
@@madsin6516 I do understand RNG part of it for it being a game, but can't deny takes just a little away from realism. I am not expecting them to give me 7.5+ performance every game, but having a player with very high stats scoring hat trick then nothing for 3 matches constantly (not just period of 1 or 2 months at a time due to happiness, fatigue, contract issues - also note that I expect most players would have downs several time a season-) but through out the season combined with weird AI talk/replies can be annoying at times 😅
Yes Consistency is good but you should compare within the same position. I have a world class DLP, very consistent but he still can't get over a 6.9 average rating for a season. DLPs just don't get good ratings in this years game.
@@fmscout indeed - just been through my squad and realised ALL of my 4* loan players are marked as having poor consistency - going to be having words with them.... Cheers for the tips in the video!
I always fine 1 weeks of wages for a poor performance even if we win and I've never had a player not accept the fine in this FM, if they don't I know they have a bad personality anyway
@@fmscout I might have been getting it wrong, when I have someone like Ross barkley who's bad far more than good- I always felt like praising him for his one good game would undo the disciplining. He's going anyway my worst ever signing.
I didn’t really think about this in this way. When signing players, I always look at high determination, work rate, team work being over 48 (combined) then with the scout reports, look at injury susceptibility and consistency. Then look at where players can fit into my tactics, rather than my team. I always look at how the player will fit, (vision for the wingers, inside forwards with high dribbling, centre forward with ability for long shots, flair for my central midfielders, and concentration for the centre back and so on.). I also look on how professional they are as this helps develop younger players as well as keeping their bookings down. I find the more professional the players is, the more consistent he is and less likely to get booked or sent of (trait for bending the rules) and dirtiness. I often have games where my passing rate is about 65% and all players are over 6.8 even when I lose, the ratings are always above 6.8.
So why does my players (olivee burke 29yo) stats is terrible and my best player up to date despite report cons are fairly inconsistent and not intelligent in the pitch
Should probably label this video as a beginner or maybe intermediate tip, cause combined with the clickbaity title, I thought this was going to have some deep analysis. Most of us who have been around the games for awhile are aware of consistency.
Were you guys aware of how big of a factor this was in your saves? Let me know down below! Don't forget to like and subscribe if you enjoyed the video and feel free to come check out my channel as we push for 1250 subs with our are save just getting underway! Have a great day everyone! - Jake
rename the title - *Unknown
Haha thank you very much mate its been a long day! - Jake
@@realamc4639 It's not the attribute that is unknown, but how much affect it actually has :)
Just checked and a lot of my players are inconsistent and I had no idea
Thats good to hear mate! Can be worked around but the best thing to do now is to take it into account when signing a potential player! - Jake
Excellent tip for those long-term club building saves! Never thought about developing consistency through criticism.
It helps raise their standards and then hopefully from there it can help raise their consistency if they can perform better! Ive been using this trick since I heard about it its something I didn't do often enough! - Jake
I used the praise and criticism to impfove the training results. Never thought of doing it to improve performance consistency
Finally something I really didn't know yet in FM! :D I thought the only way to improve it is giving them game-time.
Another important point is that you let your first-team-players playing together for several games, so they get used to each other. Then you will have "double-consistency" (team-cohesion) :P
hi mate im glad it helped, something to take notice of for sure! Discipline = heightened performances - heightened performances = consistency increases over time! - Jake
@@fmscout exactly! Nice side-effect of discipline your players : If you discipline your players often it will be added to your managers personality too. I am known as a "strictly disciplinarian" :D
Haha Jose Mourinho type! - Jake
For me, inconsistency and doesn’t enjoy big matches puts me off signing any player. Never seem to be able to reverse those traits myself with mentoring either
Heavy levels of either are a big no no in my eyes too mate! - Jake
I find having a few model citizen and high professional personalities within your squad help with inconsistent over time. The player has a higher chance of modelling them personalities and get rid of the inconsistency, although this happens a lot for younger players but older players I don’t think it works as much. This doesn’t always 100% but it helps
Inconsistency gets removed as you play them more, doesn’t enjoy big matches though is instant throw in the bin.
Paolo Dybala. Doesn't enjoy big match either. even though my scouts give 100% rating and said he is world class player. sign whatever the costs. still didn't buy him.
@@lordwaleane5397 I bought him for £100million. To replace Firmino, maybe a bit to much but he does well for me, around 30 goals per season for a few season. Tbh in one of my saves I bought Harland for £100 million and he isn’t as good as I though he would be. I tried everything, from tactics to criticism and praise.
I need 20 years of FM back 😱
Yes good advice. I'm quite a tough manager and fine players for poor performance. If they continue I then threaten to drop them. Final straw is dropping and bring them on as sub. Found overtime this works.
The new Mourinho! - Jake
Inconsistent players are typically younger and grow in consistency over time. I think it's a nice touch by SI as it's realistic that older experienced players are more reliable.
Dude please make your videos shorter, I was really interested but hearing you say the same things over and over again to stretch the video to 17 min is really exhausting. There is content for 5 mins in this video and the rest is just useless. Try to think about what u wanna say before making the video and keep more information in lesser time please. You lost me after 8 minutes. The content is a good find nontheless.
I dunno if you know this ... but this is youtube ... all videos are all pre recorded sooooo you can actually move this little slider on the video to the point you want and then just watch the part you want ... i know it may be a shock but maybe give it a shot .
@@louisclark6051 i know right, people definitely should know where they want to watch it before they watched it.. duh
Rhys Williams i saw him as captain straight away
Haha good find! I think I made this one too obvious I should make it harder next time! - Jake
Funny things about consistency player is they always paired with "easily injured" trait in my save and i can only play them 3 matches and then the rest of the season is just them sleeping in the hospital.
We've all seen those kind of players mate, bane of our existence ! - Jake
I've picked this up since FM20. I rate a player with "low stats" or "lower rated" that is consistent than someone "better" that isn't because they turn up more and do the job needed. Sometimes the reports won't always show this feedback, and you have to look at their playing (season) stats to find out. Never knew how to improve the consistency and that was great to find out.
Thanks a lot. Now I'm fining every underperforming player in every game.
consistency affects you''re mental attributes, if you have worst inconsistency on it's worst day it will be a point drop in all mental attributes across the board. consistency can't be trained or mentored, it's not a personality, it does slowly increase over age at about a rate of like 5-ish points over ten years maybe slightly more(it's a 1-20 attribute for reference)
As far as I remember (in older FM versions) a player being inconsistent was more a ‘run of games’ rather than match by match. That’s why I used to drop strikers to reserves if they started to dry up. Since Fm 20 I won’t sign anyone who shows up as red or orange for inconsistency.
I've been playing since FM18. I always thought I was being a hard ass for giving them the business after bad games. Thank you for giving my overzealousness some validity! 😂😂😂
My top scorer from last season developed the con “doesn’t enjoy big games”. Is it still worth keeping him as a consistent starter and is there a way to get rid of this?
just play him on not big games. like against big teams or rivals.
Good one! Keep it up!
It is hard to emphasize enough the importance of this tip for choosing a goalkeeper, especially for play-off competitions!
I have got Erling in my save and his consistency was great which reflected it his rating 7,59 on average. But his form was inconsistent, sometimes he had below 6,5 and sometimes he bang some goals which later on increased his average rating. What should i do? Cheers.
What you're saying makes sense but I've had some players who've had terrible consitency but is insane day in day out
Like I had a left back who played a 7.9 average rating in La Liga while being fairly inconsistent
The player I have that I feel is the most inconsistent has bright green consistency and light green for big matches. Still has some games where he just cant score from 20 chances. How do I improve him? Still playing FM20 by the way
On the xbox version, there is no option to 'discuss' to help manage consistency.
Would you still buy Youssoufa Moukoko that has an Amber inconsistent trait upon scouting?
(applies to any other outstanding wonderkid in the xbox version)
Yeah I have moukoko and I’m on Xbox how do I improve consistency
I knew Consistency is important but idk it affect this much, have to look out which world class player to loan next time, I played Bissouma and he performed much better than Julian Brandt, yes they're different position but the rating are 0.5 apart after half a season
If a player gets less than 6.5in training or a match I criticise him but I do it at the end of match team talk on the individual tab and praise over 7.5. Do you think the team talk one works as well as the out of game one? BTW I didn't do this knowing could help with consistency. I just thought it made them put more effort in training.
Out of game one involves discipline so I would class as separate to in game, don't know that for definite though so maybe test it out next time you have a bad performance. And yes it helps them play better in game which can therefore help improve his consistency mate! - Jake
@@fmscout I don't recall who I heard this from but it's also been suggested that playing regularly along with the discipline is necessary. You can't be consistent playing once a month. Similarly pressure aka big matches can be improved the more you play a player on them? Not sure how much data backs these bit it was a reputable source.
@@davidrichards613 You are right that game time and good performances is needed. Then last part I'm not sure about.
This and work rate im beginning to see are so important! Is there any way to discipline player or try to fix inconsistency on FM Touch?
Im not too knowledgeable on touch but if consistency is involved, good performances over time will hopefully help raise that up! - Jake
@@fmscout yeah thats what I've been working on! Appreciate the input on that!
You know how to improve work rate by discipline??
@@fmscout not on Touch as there's no option to do so unfortunately lol but how do you do it? As I'll be getting the full FM soon on pc
@@jayydoggg I dont use touch, so no idea there. For FF it goes up if you discipline players under 6.4 match ratings for poor performance.
that explains why some of big transfers disappoints me big time
Happens to me all the time mate! - Jake
Read those scout reports people. Have always looked for consistent players.
can you do a video on what it would cost to build a new stadium or expand stadiums
I actually consider this as a flaw in the game. Consistency shouldn't equal playing above your level. I found the explanation of it in the video little weird to be honest. A championship level player shouldn't be able to get those rating as in premier league that often since the level of play is above him. I do understand if a player is premier league level and consistency would affect the ratings, and that's great realism but that shouldn't mean a consistent league 2 player can get 7+ ratings on constant bases in premier league
Bamford was inconsistent in the championship. When he got to the prem he is playing like he's always been their.
It's good because this means some really good players, such as Dybala, underperform despite having all the attributes to be a top player. And others, for example Wilson, can put in top performances despite not being that good. It adds variety and rng which is good for the balance of the game
@@madsin6516 I do understand RNG part of it for it being a game, but can't deny takes just a little away from realism. I am not expecting them to give me 7.5+ performance every game, but having a player with very high stats scoring hat trick then nothing for 3 matches constantly (not just period of 1 or 2 months at a time due to happiness, fatigue, contract issues - also note that I expect most players would have downs several time a season-) but through out the season combined with weird AI talk/replies can be annoying at times 😅
Jake mentions his hair every video😂
haha I have to mate, can't have people in a years time seeing the hair and think this is out of choice! - Jake
Not liking big matches is another that effects the game alot. Especially if they ain't consistent.
100% mate, Adeyemi in my save is one of those!
Try to speak slightly slower, it will help make the pace of the video a bit better. Good video though!
Yes Consistency is good but you should compare within the same position. I have a world class DLP, very consistent but he still can't get over a 6.9 average rating for a season. DLPs just don't get good ratings in this years game.
That's because SI messed up player ratings, you can read about it in the bugs forum.
And the award for the most uses of the word consistent goes to......
If only the video was all about that word! - Jake
@@fmscout indeed - just been through my squad and realised ALL of my 4* loan players are marked as having poor consistency - going to be having words with them.... Cheers for the tips in the video!
I always fine 1 weeks of wages for a poor performance even if we win and I've never had a player not accept the fine in this FM, if they don't I know they have a bad personality anyway
UNKNOWN Attribute? are you trolling or did you start playing football manager yesterday?
Interesting about the disciplining.
How about praising them for good performances / form?
Exactly correct mate, do that when things are good and you'll increase their chances of playing better which can in turn improve consistency!
@@fmscout I might have been getting it wrong, when I have someone like Ross barkley who's bad far more than good- I always felt like praising him for his one good game would undo the disciplining. He's going anyway my worst ever signing.
I didn’t really think about this in this way. When signing players, I always look at high determination, work rate, team work being over 48 (combined) then with the scout reports, look at injury susceptibility and consistency. Then look at where players can fit into my tactics, rather than my team. I always look at how the player will fit, (vision for the wingers, inside forwards with high dribbling, centre forward with ability for long shots, flair for my central midfielders, and concentration for the centre back and so on.). I also look on how professional they are as this helps develop younger players as well as keeping their bookings down. I find the more professional the players is, the more consistent he is and less likely to get booked or sent of (trait for bending the rules) and dirtiness. I often have games where my passing rate is about 65% and all players are over 6.8 even when I lose, the ratings are always above 6.8.
Pogbas and Rashfords should be.....6
Bruno a 20? - Jake
Fucking hell promotion after promotion gg
Haha thanks mate although its getting a little but tougher now in the prem I go months without picking up a point! - Jake
@@fmscout I bet! If you manage to stay up then that's very impressive 👍
First season we did and second season we should only just be okay! - Jake
@@fmscout have you won any cups?
Not yet, winning a match is hard enough! - Jake
So why does my players (olivee burke 29yo) stats is terrible and my best player up to date despite report cons are fairly inconsistent and not intelligent in the pitch
They warn you about that in the report..
why ending of video is on the begining XD
Should I start criticizing them or penalizing them?
Both should help heighten in game performance mate! - Jake
up the stags
Rhys Williams
I was looking at him for a solid couple of minutes, handing you guys clues left right and centre id say! - Jake
reece devine develops into that???
For me in my team he has won the premier player of the year twice! - Jake
@@fmscout I've always held onto him for his crossing attributes, but never develops properly mentally.
this is why i sell pogba asap he is garbage on fm his report says he's not consistent
Should probably label this video as a beginner or maybe intermediate tip, cause combined with the clickbaity title, I thought this was going to have some deep analysis. Most of us who have been around the games for awhile are aware of consistency.
Way too much waffle at the start, instead of getting to the point. But still useful information
Just trying to explain the science behind it all and show different examples mate but glad you found it useful at least! - Jake
@@fmscout it would be much more enjoyable if you started by stating problem and solution first, then talked about the science behind it after.
Thanks for the feedback mate ill consider the staging of my videos more next time, hopefully you still got what I was going for! - Jake
@@fmscout yeah for sure, appreciate the insight anyways
Thanks mate! - Jake
I haven't read all the comments, but was there a question about your coaching abilities when implementing a discipline to an inconsistent player?
FM have really butchered the definition of consistency haven’t they
your video times are way too long, you don't need this much of time to describe it. pick the best and make it short will be a great effort.
first innit
Fastest man on TH-cam! - Jake