New injectors left me stranded!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- This in NO WAY changes my opinion of BD Diesel. They are a great company that makes quality parts and I highly recommend them. Sometimes stuff happens and that’s unavoidable. My 90HP injectors are currently back at BD Diesel getting tested and fixed then shipped back out to me hopefully on Monday.
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One possible culprit for this sort of over-fueling in a Cummins equipped with Bosch CRIN injectors is a restricted fuel control orifice caused by a small piece of debris. The control valve assembly relies on a very small ( about 0.25mm/0.010" diameter) orifice to throttle fuel entering the valve and control the injector shut-off (EOI). If anything gets wedged into this orifice, the nozzle will stay open long after the valve has closed and the injection event should have ended. Since it's on the end of the injection event, the excess fuel doesn't completely burn in the cylinder, washing down the walls and leading to all kinds of fun.
The worst of it is you can do the job is a spotlessly a clean environment, follow the service manual chapter and verse, and if there is a single burr left over from manufacturing in a high pressure tube it can still happen. Back when I still did on-engine work, I got bit by a 5.9 job once. After I found out what happened, I made sure that every tube - always brand new ones, and always Bosch tubes - got a very thorough soak with brake cleaner and blown out multiple times with high-pressure air from both sides.
If you don't already do it, I recommend that you always flush and blow out any new high pressure tube or fuel injector line over a white paper towel before you install it. It can be enlightening/depressing how much shiny stuff can come out of a new high pressure tube.
I remember putting injectors in my 05. I can’t imagine them not working after spending that much money, glad they are taking care of it
Commenting this at 12:05.. the shut off test will not work through with a scanner, with an injector stuck open, it’s mechanically stuck, even shut off fuel will escape into the cylinder. You have to buy the special rail plug and cap the fuel rail one by one. I had this same issue with a set of 120hp injectors from exergy, had to pull the set and send them all back to be fixed, and re-flow balanced (cylinder 4 ended up having foreign debris inside the internals causing it to stick). Unfortunately it’s common. Again great content man, don’t be discouraged, welcome to the performance life lol.
I don't even own a Cummins, but I will now remember its firing order forever! 😂
damn right bro lol
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Hope they get a definitive answer on what the issue was! Best of luck! Appreciate you sharing the good and the bad...
I’m sure I’ll have the answer soon!
Bd diesel injectors aren’t that good. local shop told me not to get bd diesel injectors or industrial injection because they have had lots of issues with them out of the box. They said their cp3s are good to run though no issues with them.
Industrial Injection it right in the name! Just have had no issues with all I’ve bought from them! But am sorry to see a fellow 3rd gen have those kind of problems! At least you know a good mechanic! Good looking and sounding rig!
Hey bro I’m building my motor but wan to run performance industrial injection injectors how were they the reman I have a 12mm reman pump ready for the new motor but haven’t tired any reman injectors from them
Had the same problem with bd 60 hp injectors,truck broke down close to the bd shop in Vancouver,after 200 Kms, charged me $1000 to change one injector no warranty.Bd has the Worst costumer service,they will say you installed wrong.If you want good injectors call industrial injection in the USA. Bd sucks balls.
How are the industrial injection reman injectors ?
First time diesel owner here!!! I have owned my 3rd generation dodge for one year. I have learned so much and spent alot aswell on my truck. After I had the head done and had the truck out for one week . All of a sudden it started knocking and blowing white smoke as I driving it. I pulled over right away and had it towed to the diesel shop to have the injectors fixed. One stuck open on me.
Ya apparently it’s pretty common after having the injectors out
@@darkirondiesel Thankyou for the reply back. I just put a new turbo in the truck last week as my old one didn't work properly from day one. I was going to put the bd screamer in but there was a long wait so I went with new stock turbo . The exhaust brake works amazing on it as the old one never worked . I do want to get the screamer one as the exhaust brake sounds amazing when engaged.
I had this happen to a duramax towing nasty weight and drove it home so u shouldn't have any melted pistons or bad sleeves, great videos keep them coming!
Oof! You didn’t wash a cylinder?
You have a really nice 3rd gen. I was never a real big fan of 3rd gens until I borrowed my friends truck and took it on a 800 mile drive. His truck pulled hard. Yours looks right with the mods you have done and chrome delete. It looks super fun to drive with that manual gearbox.
Thanks buddy ya it’s super fun! The 3rd gens are great trucks
I'm sorry about your injectors and all, but this truck SOUNDS SO GOOD!
Love how you showed the nut falling into the boost tube, turning a job that should only take a few hours 3x as long because of dumb shit like that happening lol
I would check out SS diesel. They have great injectors. Well proven too.
Great attitude, shit happens! Good luck , love your channel
Thanks Steve!
I usually stay away from most things BD especially when it is common rail fueling related not a fan of much of anything bd makes. BBI makes a great common rail injector. Hope you get everything sorted out.
Brazilian butt lift makes injectors?
Big Bang Injection haha
I've had this happen on other off brand injectors , but ive run the BD diesel 90 horse injectors in my 2010 6.7 and 03 cummins with good results
tie a magnet to a string and toss it in next time lol
That's a Really Nice Truck, you have there.. good luck with the other New BD DIESEL INJECTORS. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸 🇨🇦
Thought you put in 6-oh when I saw the smoke🤣
Very educational I like your content
Thanks for showing what can happen. Cheers
Them trucks have a “cylinder performance test” on most scan tools. Both my AUtel and my launch both did it.
good luck with the warranty
I sent them all back, they tested them and found a faulty tip, fixed it and shipped them back all within a week.
15, 2 young, 36 2 old, 24 just right, god bless you lololl engrave it in stole
I put a 4” extension on shifter for only 9 bucks so I got a second for my manual 4 drive shifter and I live both of them and cheap .
I assume remans. I have 14 Cummins and new ones are hard to find most are remans which I want nothing to do with.
I have a similar build but my truck hasn’t made it out of the shop yet. I have DDP 90 hp injectors with two problems. One won’t line up to the cross over tube and one is continuing to fuel and run the engine with the ignition off. Not happy!
Wow! Thats a lot of hard work to have to do twice just because of bad Injectors. Really sorry You had to go throw all that. You do really nice work. Hope it all works out well for You and they will stand behind there product. Next time You might want to check out Dynomite Diesel Injectors. You have a great attitude that make all the
i honestly can’t take him serious when he says “i’m pissed off” 😂😐 like ayee
Lol what do you mean? I was pissed off haha brand new injectors and instantly had a problem. Screwed up my plans for the next two weeks having my truck down.
@@darkirondiesel i understand that i would be too!
level 6 on my 6.7L manual = hold on for your dear life lol
That's why I use Exergy injectors!
It hurt me to see you continue to run those injectors.
I just had a similar failure where #5 cracked on the nozzle... did same thing to my dad but we believe it also caused the headgasket to leak since I had coolant baked in 4 and 5. Mostly 5.
Already ready to re assemble with new parts.
I'm gonna pull number 5 piston probably to check it
Should have went with flux diesel injectors 7 year warranty awesome customer service great pricing
I hate remand in something with such tight tolerances,for me only new injectors is what I use.
Had this happen but HYDROLOCK my 7.3, bought a full set of 180/30 Injectors from Full force diesel and lasted 1 week.
dunno if its different for different brands but S&S is the best in the business from what I know
I fell like its most likely faulty injectors as it ran pretty good for a bit. Best of luck!
Will you guys out west get hassled in a truck that rolls coal? It makes us public enemy number one here in Ontario.lol. Great video and look forward to finding out what the issue was.
Yeah but ontario supports the criminal Trudeau. So to the west, you're all public enemy number 1
You can get a ticket in Saskatchewan for stunting if you roll too much coal but that’s about it. I personally try to keep my exhaust pretty clean but for TH-cam I’ll turn it up a bit. Rolling coal all the time is annoying and hard of your engine
Any chance since tune was written with smaller injectors that is a issue
No a tune couldn’t cause an injector to stick open but that’s a good question
Can you do a video on your thoughts on a external fuel system like a FASS?
Or Airdog.
How does this not change your opinion of BD diesel injectors? Sometimes stuff happens, yes, but when that "stuff" happens more to some companies than others and you still defend them, now you're just being brand loyal. It's been said many times, stick to companies that specialize in injectors. S&S, Flux, Exergy are undisputed top tier. BD is a good company, I wouldn't hesitate to buy their exhaust brake but but there's a reason why they're not in that top 3 list. Of course there's a lot to be said for good customer service as well, so maybe that makes your decision to stick with them easier. Love your channel dawg, that wouldn't change even if you bought from injectorsdirect.
The injector thing definitely upset me, but I’ve dealt with BD a lot over the years and this was the first issue I had. So I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt that it was just a one off situation. Thanks for the support though man I appreciate it!
@@darkirondiesel I definitely hold BD in high regards, however I just wouldn't buy their injectors considering the other options. Really want one of their exhaust brakes for my 04.5 5.9!
Hey I'm not to far from you ,I have a 2012 6.7 cummins and rplaced the injectors and feed tubes... shes getting suffient fuel supply but injectors not opening. I pulled it outta the garage and shut her ff replaced feed tubes and now she won't start unless I feed her with butene and sometimes ether. but she won't stay going...could you mesage me back? I've been fooling around with this ever since last August.
Hard to see in the vid, but that not an old style injector line on #4 is it? Mine only made it to 100k when it split in front of the house.(how lucky is that?) It now has the new style injector line, the rest will be changed on a good snow day..
What did you find out about the injectors. Do you have a follow up video. Was there any damage to the engine itself?
Shouldn't you buy your injectors from a fueling company instead of a one-stop-shop like BD? I bought mine from S&S with no problems, a buddy bought his from Industrial Injection with no problems either, DDP, Synergy??? all they do is fueling
This is totally unrelated to your crazy frustration (I would be just as frustrated), but do you notice a performance difference with the Monster Ram itself?
Reasons you saw no change using the computer to shut them off is it was stuck open regardless if the solenoid was working or not
True but I had this happen on a duramax before with the exact same symptom/problem and doing the cut out test worked. Maybe in the duramax case the solenoid was bad and it was causing it to over fuel.
@@darkirondiesel injectors are definitely the downfall of these things, I need all new ones but luckily I have a fass now to save the new ones
I had a 5.9L stuck running with a key out and battery disconnect but it was issue with the ruuning relays
Had a question about turbo actuator. I have 2016 3500 with only 40.000 kms. Had check engine light on and EB worked intermittent only. Codes thru dealer show failed actuator.
Is this possible at only 40k. What's best replacement actuator?
Dealer cost is 3g installed
Thanks
not dissing on BD but been having alot of problems with them lately with injectors and turbos
Hmm that’s interesting
@@darkirondiesel just last week had a BD screamer on a 2012 6.7 Cummins completely come apart in less than 2 days. Hot side wheel and half the shaft shot itself into the exhaust lol
Man that’s not good at all lol
Exergy injectors all the way.
Exergy is the only way to go man.
You ordered the 90 horse injectors, they shipped the 900 horse injectors, you'll need a turbo off a cruise ship 🚢 for the right AF ratio.....
Hahaha 🤣
This feels like such a Kyle thing to happen...hi my name's Kyle and I've done this, I've removed the nut both ways. After swapping in the new used engine I decided to remove it the right way....this way.
So I guess you didn't film programing the injectors?
Damn bro!!…hope it’s a defect and not anything in the motor…Aloha 🤙🏽
Tougher to safety in sask then manitoba. No go on the straight pipe lol.
Like BD but this video just steered me towards BBI injectors instead.
So kinda off topic but I'm looking to get my first 3rd gen. It needs a brake line, some rust repair on rocker and cab corner, and a leak at the exchanger, motor is good is it worth messing with 6k good new 35s a smarty tuner. 64 drop in turbo and smaller nozzles on the injectors tia.
Exchanger leak would worry me. Is it leaking coolant, transmission fluid, or mixing it?
@@skilz5698 I think it leaks tranny fluid. But when I drove it didn't leak anything it's off and on he says. But I don't think it's mixing anything
@@notyalniknar5697 I'd be careful, if it's leaking trans fluid trans is probably on its last legs. had to leak enough for him to know, if it's a slow leak I bet the trans was ran low on fluid
Totally unrelated but what fender flares are on your truck?
Do u have to program the injectors to the trucks computer yes or no
Im still new to diesel trucks but wouldnt bigger injectors need custom tuning ? You mentioned u ran the same tune with the stock injectors ?
Yes and no. You can put bigger injectors in a truck and not change the tune, but it might smoke lots and won’t give you the full potential those injectors could do. Tuning will help to run more efficiently with the bigger injectors as well as get all the power you possibly can out of it.
@@darkirondiesel gotcha , gassers are why different lol
That’s so stupid. Why would anyone mod or chip a diesel truck. Kills the life of them. But wow you look so cool “rolling Cole “
You don't have a clue what your talking about. Go back to your prius
BBI for me.
Hopefully you didn't install them wrong. Let us know what happened when you figure it out.
I’m pretty sure I didn’t but you never know. I actually filmed the installation of these injectors and made a “how to” video with it. It was the video I posted last Sunday so if they think I did something wrong they can just watch the video and see everything I did haha
did they cover your tow bill
Welding beanie???
Until your wife who is ten years younger than you turns 36. Then the tune changes. 😝
😂
Did they end up paying for the tow?
Haven’t bugged them about that yet. Waiting to see the cause of the failure first
The same thing happened to me..
Doesn't matter whose name is on that injector, they all come out of china. Thats why I buy original factory Bosch injectors PERIOD!
These are Bosch injectors haha, just bd nozzles
those mud flaps bought or home made
Bought, husky liners is the company. Super cheap but I love them they work good
What ended up being thr problem?
Stuck open injector. I go over it in the following video if you wanna check it out
Turbo take a dump?
No turbo is fine
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Dude...If it wasn't for bad luck, you would have no luck at all.....
Why do people keep buying BD injectors 😅
You hear of other people having issues?
@@darkirondiesel I had issues with more then one set of BD injectors in my personal truck (and a BD trans and a BD 72 over cp3) lol. I’ve also heard of many others having issues with their injectors.
Shit man I’ll have to talk to them about it. I’ve always had good luck so far until now but I’ve used sooo many bd products over the years for personal and customer trucks.
Im also one that has had nothing but bad luck with bd products. From personal and customer trucks. Their warranty is great but not after time and time again. Out here in Wa, united states. We use our "used to be local" dynomite diesel injectors with no issues along with exergy being our two smoothest running and least issue injectors. I hope bd takes care of you and you have a trouble free service life.