I know this video is a bit older but I was wondering if you had any comparison between 2024 Ventus Blue and Tensei 1K Blue? I really got on well with the 1K
Just got the new blue in 6S with my 9 degree TSR3.....couldn't be happier. All the data; launch angle, backspin, descent angle and carry/total distances are what I'm looking for given my age and swing. I found it very comfortable to swing too - compared to the TR Red 6S and original black 6S......i know that's not exactly like for like but it's all i could get my hands on.....Red was a bit "squirrely" for me and black was too much for me to handle given my +/- 100'ish mph speed and loading.....blue seemed a great mid point.
Between the Fujikura Ventus line and the shafts from graphite design, do you favor one over the other? Is there an overall description that differentiates the two brands?
I’m really sorry but it’s a very wide question that you have asked. It’s impossible to put a whole brand up against another. The reason why I do these VS videos is to help answer these questions but what you have asked is way too broad I’m sorry.
It’s like: who makes better cars-Toyota or Honda? They’re direct competitors making high end after market shafts. I will say that having tried MANY GD shafts and having played the GP for five years that once you find a GD shaft you like that it’s very hard to get it out of the bag, while I know many people who were in the Ventus Blue for a bit and went on to buy a new shaft and a new one after that. I really liked the feel of the Blue 5S in a TSI2 my friend was playing.
@@SydneyGolfTechI think a better question would be (and what I think the follower was wanting to know); which of the Venus shafts have the same/similar profile to the GD shafts. And when these similar profile shafts are compared between the brands which shaft produces the better numbers?
@@jakedavid4304 Ventus tend to be stiffer in the handle while GD are softer in the handle, hence why Ventus dominates tour usage. I haven’t found many that are similar other than UB and Ventus blue.
I'm a right harder and play the TR Blue in 5S in my TSR2 and am struggling with a slight right miss, and find it almost impossible to turn over. Around 100mph clubhead speed, 3-4 degree up AoA, neutral to slight O2I path. Shots go straight to slight fade but with the occasional big right miss. Love the feel of the TR and the TSR2 head but always been a straight to left to right player pre this shaft. Do you think the new Blue might be a better fit and help with the right miss? Love the reviews!
There’s a really high chance that the new blue will help. The slightly softer butt section can help with your right miss. You could also change your adapter setting to upright. Thanks for watching.
@@SydneyGolfTech Thanks! Correcting my note, I was always a straight or right to left player before this shaft (doh). Ever since using the TR I've struggled to hit a draw even with the upright setting but I do love the feel. Will see if I can find somewhere to try the VB+
I've got a tsi3 9* with addi 6S. Swinging about 100-105 on avg. I do struggle to get my aoa up enough with driver, usually around 0-1* up. Launch around 11*, spin around 2500. I can miss both ways unfortunately, but I do prefer to hit a draw. I'd say my miss is to the right a bit. Which ventus would you suggest I try? I would love to get launch up and spin down a bit (going to switch to tsr3 soon to hopefully help this). I have a fairly aggressive transition as well. I was thinking ventus black to kill spin, but I think I need the launch of the blue. The new 2024 ventus blue is one I have my eye on.
I’d suggest going to a 10 degree with Ventus black. You will reduce spin with the black but won’t get the launch you need with a 9 degree head I’d say.
I've had fitters before try and put me in an X stiff, probably to help reduce spin, even though my speed doesn't warrant it. Would you think new ventus blue in 6x or black in 6s? What kind of results would you expect launch and spin wise?@@SydneyGolfTech
Nice video.. I enjoyed the commentary around feel. Looking at the stats, there really is no 'statistical significance' that would make a player move from one to another. Just my .02
That’s correct. No statistical significance but my ability to shape a draw with the 2024 was better than the TR, so I’d pick the 2024 over the TR in this case. Also the spike in spin was less with the 2024 so it then also nudges the 2019. The art of fitting is not always about finding a statistical difference but often it’s about giving the player confidence to hit the shot they need to hit.
Interesting exact same driver head but I've got a tensei 1k black in x but launches way to low roughly around 9-10deg looking at a ventus but still not sure want the launch but don't want anything that feels soft got a tour ad as well but it didn't work maybe it's a swing flaw 😅
I feel the same way the that New GD VF shafts!!! Thing is crazy good for my game. Places last week for the 2nd time as the season is opening around me and think I missed the Fairway maybe 2-3 times.
@@SydneyGolfTech I've always played the 6 Stiff in the VR, IZ and HD. I've heard that the VF is one of the stoutest offering from GD - would you recommend me sticking with the 6 Stiff for the VF or should i go down in weight with the 5 Stiff? I'm at the 100 mph swing speed with a bit of a hard transition/fast tempo.
@@gary-gt-tsang I have had the 5S in the bag recently and have always also played 6 shafts like you. However, I’m sure my transition isn’t particularly harsh so I can get away with the 5.
New shafts heads do nothing anymore. Everything has been maxed out for quite some time. We’ve hit a technological ceiling. Save money and buy the old model .
All new shafts are different as well are heads. While technology may have been maxed out, rarely the player is maxed out. Hence why new products can work great for some players. MOI has increased significantly over the last few years so misshits are way better. Saving money rarely works out. Fitting is always the best option.
@@SydneyGolfTech MOI G400 Max 9900 G430 10k any increase in moi from last couple gen drivers vs new is negligible. Distance gains nil. I do agree with getting fit.
Love the graph compressions!! awesome video! exactly what I was looking for in 6S
That was a great video and comparison. Earned a sub.
Thanks very much. 😃
I know this video is a bit older but I was wondering if you had any comparison between 2024 Ventus Blue and Tensei 1K Blue? I really got on well with the 1K
@@unvbl1 I haven’t had a chance to do that video yet. 😃
@@SydneyGolfTech Since you've used both and the 1K blue was in your bag, how would you describe the feeling of each?
Hey Greg. How do you think the 2024 blue sits vs the original black?
It feels heavier and is a lot softer in my opinion. So the new blue should launch and spin more than the original black.
Just got the new blue in 6S with my 9 degree TSR3.....couldn't be happier. All the data; launch angle, backspin, descent angle and carry/total distances are what I'm looking for given my age and swing. I found it very comfortable to swing too - compared to the TR Red 6S and original black 6S......i know that's not exactly like for like but it's all i could get my hands on.....Red was a bit "squirrely" for me and black was too much for me to handle given my +/- 100'ish mph speed and loading.....blue seemed a great mid point.
I play the graphite design BB & the XC. Looking to own a Ventus. Unsure on whether to go Blue or Black and TR or no TR. Any suggestions?
My suggestion would be original Black, not TR. Thanks for watching.
@@SydneyGolfTech thanks for the quick reply
Between the Fujikura Ventus line and the shafts from graphite design, do you favor one over the other? Is there an overall description that differentiates the two brands?
I’m really sorry but it’s a very wide question that you have asked. It’s impossible to put a whole brand up against another. The reason why I do these VS videos is to help answer these questions but what you have asked is way too broad I’m sorry.
It’s like: who makes better cars-Toyota or Honda?
They’re direct competitors making high end after market shafts. I will say that having tried MANY GD shafts and having played the GP for five years that once you find a GD shaft you like that it’s very hard to get it out of the bag, while I know many people who were in the Ventus Blue for a bit and went on to buy a new shaft and a new one after that.
I really liked the feel of the Blue 5S in a TSI2 my friend was playing.
@@SydneyGolfTechI think a better question would be (and what I think the follower was wanting to know); which of the Venus shafts have the same/similar profile to the GD shafts.
And when these similar profile shafts are compared between the brands which shaft produces the better numbers?
@@jakedavid4304 Ventus tend to be stiffer in the handle while GD are softer in the handle, hence why Ventus dominates tour usage. I haven’t found many that are similar other than UB and Ventus blue.
Another great review Greg. Congrats on the 7 under round. Good shooting!!!
I'm a right harder and play the TR Blue in 5S in my TSR2 and am struggling with a slight right miss, and find it almost impossible to turn over. Around 100mph clubhead speed, 3-4 degree up AoA, neutral to slight O2I path. Shots go straight to slight fade but with the occasional big right miss. Love the feel of the TR and the TSR2 head but always been a straight to left to right player pre this shaft. Do you think the new Blue might be a better fit and help with the right miss? Love the reviews!
There’s a really high chance that the new blue will help. The slightly softer butt section can help with your right miss. You could also change your adapter setting to upright. Thanks for watching.
@@SydneyGolfTech Thanks! Correcting my note, I was always a straight or right to left player before this shaft (doh). Ever since using the TR I've struggled to hit a draw even with the upright setting but I do love the feel. Will see if I can find somewhere to try the VB+
I've got a tsi3 9* with addi 6S. Swinging about 100-105 on avg. I do struggle to get my aoa up enough with driver, usually around 0-1* up. Launch around 11*, spin around 2500. I can miss both ways unfortunately, but I do prefer to hit a draw. I'd say my miss is to the right a bit. Which ventus would you suggest I try? I would love to get launch up and spin down a bit (going to switch to tsr3 soon to hopefully help this). I have a fairly aggressive transition as well. I was thinking ventus black to kill spin, but I think I need the launch of the blue. The new 2024 ventus blue is one I have my eye on.
I’d suggest going to a 10 degree with Ventus black. You will reduce spin with the black but won’t get the launch you need with a 9 degree head I’d say.
Yes that could be a good move. What about 9* head but going up to 9.75 or even 10.5 with the adapter? Could help me turn it over a bit more as well.
@@nigelcobalt yes that could also work.
I've had fitters before try and put me in an X stiff, probably to help reduce spin, even though my speed doesn't warrant it. Would you think new ventus blue in 6x or black in 6s? What kind of results would you expect launch and spin wise?@@SydneyGolfTech
@@nigelcobalt at your speed I may not be going for X. There’s a number of ways spin loft can be reduced.
Any thoughts on how the 2024 Blue compares to the Ping Tour Chrome 2.0?
Nice video.. I enjoyed the commentary around feel. Looking at the stats, there really is no 'statistical significance' that would make a player move from one to another. Just my .02
That’s correct. No statistical significance but my ability to shape a draw with the 2024 was better than the TR, so I’d pick the 2024 over the TR in this case. Also the spike in spin was less with the 2024 so it then also nudges the 2019. The art of fitting is not always about finding a statistical difference but often it’s about giving the player confidence to hit the shot they need to hit.
Please do a comparison on the 2024 Ventus Black 6S vs. 2019 Ventus Black 6S
@@michaelocean4788 it’s coming 😃
Interesting exact same driver head but I've got a tensei 1k black in x but launches way to low roughly around 9-10deg looking at a ventus but still not sure want the launch but don't want anything that feels soft got a tour ad as well but it didn't work maybe it's a swing flaw 😅
Did I miss it, but you don't talk about shaft length on all three shafts. ? 🤔
@@bamahi7142 from memory all the same at 45.5.
Great video love your honesty
Top video Greg! 🙌🏼
Can you do a vs with victory force and 2024 ventus blue?
There’s a really high chance this will be produced. I see some interesting similarities in both shafts.
Can you do this with the black models please
@@thanos3285 already done.
@@SydneyGolfTech Just found it cheers
I feel the same way the that New GD VF shafts!!! Thing is crazy good for my game. Places last week for the 2nd time as the season is opening around me and think I missed the Fairway maybe 2-3 times.
The new VF is really good. We have fitted so many people into that shaft this year.
@@SydneyGolfTech Did you find more people being fitted into the VF 5 than VF 6?
@@gary-gt-tsang not really. There has been a mix of 5’s and 6’s fitted.
@@SydneyGolfTech I've always played the 6 Stiff in the VR, IZ and HD. I've heard that the VF is one of the stoutest offering from GD - would you recommend me sticking with the 6 Stiff for the VF or should i go down in weight with the 5 Stiff? I'm at the 100 mph swing speed with a bit of a hard transition/fast tempo.
@@gary-gt-tsang I have had the 5S in the bag recently and have always also played 6 shafts like you. However, I’m sure my transition isn’t particularly harsh so I can get away with the 5.
So they are all pretty much the same. Good to know
Subtle differences for sure and depending on the player, one will be more suitable than the other.
New shafts heads do nothing anymore. Everything has been maxed out for quite some time. We’ve hit a technological ceiling. Save money and buy the old model .
All new shafts are different as well are heads. While technology may have been maxed out, rarely the player is maxed out. Hence why new products can work great for some players. MOI has increased significantly over the last few years so misshits are way better. Saving money rarely works out. Fitting is always the best option.
@@SydneyGolfTech MOI G400 Max 9900 G430 10k any increase in moi from last couple gen drivers vs new is negligible. Distance gains nil. I do agree with getting fit.
no suprises, all pretty much the exact same thing with a different name
Subtle differences which can make massive differences to certain players. Definitely not the same at all.
@@SydneyGolfTech The strike was the determining factor in the difference I thought I heard you say, maybe I understood wrong
@@Jeebizz101 strike is effected by the shaft and the player.
@@SydneyGolfTech I need to re-watch the video listening carefully, I wouldve thought strike was 100% controlled by your hands