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- Human bodies are needed to advance medical science and many tissue banks that distribute bodies donated to science provide a valuable service. But unlike organ donation, this market is for-profit and largely unregulated, creating opportunities for bad actors to mislead families or outright con people out of their loved ones' remains to line their pockets. In this eye-opening documentary, CBS Reports goes inside the $100 million market where bodies donated to science are bought and sold for profit.
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I used to work at a place that processed bodies "donated to science" and had to quit because my moral compass was spinning. The bodies are not treated with respect. The loved ones would be promised that what wasn't used would be returned and cremated, with no charge, and I don't believe that happened once. The parts that could not be used were thrown in a biohazard bin and unceremoniously incinerated. Most of the donations were from people who could not afford cremation services. These people were told their loved ones would be taken care of and used for science, but really their donation would make over a million dollars, make products for cosmetic dental procedures, and the family saw none of that. It was disgusting, and I am permanently scarred from working in this industry. It needs deep, widespread reform.
Good heavens ... !! That is gruesome, for want of a more suitable word ! Thank you for sharing my friend
Your voice matters. Thank you for educating us. It is disgusting and inhuman, I can’t even put it into words… I am so so sorry you had to witness it and see it continue. The hell is empty, all the devils are here.
So u could go for a bridge or vaneers…. & have it be part of someone’s body?
I'm really glad I saw this. I was seriously thinking about donating my body to science, but not now. There definitely needs to be more regulation and oversight. It's a shame there are so many crooked people out there. It damages the good that people can do.
You’re driving the price up!! 😅
Me too, now I’m going to be cremated
@@levilenoxx6175That’s not much better. Did you not just watch the documentary? People paid to get cremated and got sold to someone else and their relatives got at litter. 😂
Funny how you think you get a say when your dead you can say what you want to happen but it's really down to what the living family want if they want to donate you that's where your going
That guy was incredibly defensive. He knows he is doing something wrong.
That guy also doesn't question when he has to pay for anything. When you have money like that you stop caring about the cost vs value of something.
How about a simple rule that NO ONE can profit from human remains?!? Period.
That part🙏
Iam shocked at this video, I was thinking of donating my body when I die,but this is horible,commercializing the dead body.
The fact that brokers are making profits is why ppl want to know about costs.
The night my father passed away, my mother received a call from someone purporting to be an authorized non-profit with state authorization asking her to donate my father's body. My mother, still in shock at the loss of her husband called me in a panic, thinking some government agency would take my father's body away. How the caller knew that my father passed away so soon after his passing and the nature of his treatment at the hospital meant someone at the hospital unit or the hospital morgue gave him the heads-up. After cursing him out, I had no energy to address this with the hospital, who should have spoken to us at the hospital, rather than disclose my father's information to a third party. The incident made me change my preference from organ donor to nondonor. This video is important. There are unscrupulous people in this industry. They take advantage of those who want to give their bodies as their last act on earth to benefit the bodies of the living.
I am an RN that worked for 20+ years in several emergency rooms in Southern California. I don't know if this is for all states or limited to CA but there is a checklist to be completed when a patient dies. On that list is instructions to notify, I believe, it was the eye and tissue bank or maybe it was just eye. I could be wrong about the name since I haven't worked in a hospital for several years. Any way I would have to call and discuss the patient i,e . diseases like cancer, AIDS,,, The eye and tissue bank would make the decision based on that info if tissue could be harvested and if so the patient info would be provided along with next of kin contact. I always felt odd about giving the info because I could imagine while the family is grieving they would get a call from some stranger about donation.
Correct Linda, I actually worked for LifeGift Organ Procurement Center as one who received the call. Based on the information provided from the hospital, we had to make the call within 4 hours of time of death because the procurement has to be done within 24 hours of death. Unfortunately, there was an incident where a coworker contacted the NOK to ask for the eye, bone and tissue donation before they were notified from the hospital itself. I did not stay there long at all once I got a full understanding of what all was going on there.
I work in an ICU. So I handle a lot of death. By law we have to report all deaths to the organ procurement organizations within 60 mins of time of death. We are also not allowed or supposed to approach the family about donation. The procurement agency does. Also if a patient meets certain qualifications before death, the procurement agency needs to be notified within 60 mins. We give them name, DOB, race, admitting diagnosis, medical and surgical history. That’s how they know what they do. So please don’t curse out the staff just doing their jobs. I don’t care what type of panic or grieve you’re in, it’s rude, disrespectful, and not excusable.
@@JazzyJae88 No one here has cursed out the staff or is advocating that people curse out the staff. If you witnessed someone do so, yourself, I am sorry. No one on staff should take on the grief-fueled outrage other than the people responsible: the lawmakers, the procurers, and the hospital executives making millions of dollars.
I do not, and have not ever been a donor. He is asking why do people care about the dollar amount? What is wrong with this being?
I feel like people who get into this industry are pure sociopaths.
That one dude @14:01 who got arrested that was cutting up bodies with chainsaws looks exactly like you'd expect him to look lol
The donor should get compensated also. Everybody else is making money except for the donor
People that donate their bodies most of them don’t know about this ugly truth
Good episode 👏 this is the reason why I removed myself from the donor list! There's so many companies that are scandalous and like the FBI said there needs to be 1 playbook at hand federally. And there isn't any. However, the only thing that was missing in this story was...how many people donated are John and Jane Doe? Homeless or have mental health problems who were donated or sold across the country, including possible kidnapped victims or sex and human trafficking?? 🤔
You are on too something here and probably why it's not federally regulated bc knowing our crooked government this is how they remove bodies without anyone knowing!
I was thinking same thing and want to remove myself i didnt understand the world when i was young. Now i know the world is a lie and a stage
I’m leaving this world with everything I came with! I’ve never been an organ donor; not even when I got my first ID at 16.
@@Kiyonce.Kartier You mean organ donation for transplant right? What's wrong with that? Lots of people would die without it.
@@jbythebay1543 not my problem. My body, my choice. Period.
Wow, I need to revise my end of life paperwork. I have medical issues and intended to donate my body but now I am not wanting to.
My thoughts were that I wasn’t going to be using it anymore so I wanted to help create new treatments and further knowledge on diseases but I don’t want there to be a possibility of my flesh being carved away from my bones and then them being displayed. I don’t understand how this industry isn’t heavily regulated. To know that someone with an infectious debase can be dissected and shipped across the country and nobody knowing is scary. One thing I kept thinking about is who knows how many unknown twisted people are in this industry and how many future serial killers could have access…I know I read too many books.
We all need to petition our lawmakers to start regulating this industry!
I wish the reported had asked each person he interview, if they would donate their own body after knowing what they know?
Seems like anything designed for good, is quickly turned dark! All it takes is greed an no empathy for the dead or they're families!!!🙏😡😢
I liked the opening dialogue between the reporter and the doctor, it was very intriguing what they both had to say
Agreed
Nothing surprises me about my fellow Americans. These brokers will do anything to get rich. Every donation that I know of is another way someone is getting rich.
You never forget the smell of human decay. Adam. Thank you for doing this story.
Well that was a eye opener 😳🥺😭
For the record, science donation is very different from organ donation. Please don't let this put you off of being an organ donor!
That’s true but the mistrust is there.
This is a good program to make people alert to the facts that u must not trust just anyone program do some research first before signing on to that program because they are not all bad.
Where's that same energy for when people are alive?
If I end up at the body farm, forensics, a museum, crash test, military defense, or any version of education, I'm okay with happening to my cadaver. The idea that I can for years after my life has ended can shape the future in anyway is awesome to me.
I agree with the first tech that things cost money. And I am okay with for profit. Do I expect to end up in a bucket? Perhaps. As long as some part educates, I'll be happy
I agree, except I don't want to contribute to anyone's deceptive and dirty business tactics that potentially hurt the families of the deceased
@@tmntvspr I never thought about those details as a body donor
The profiteering bothers me.
As a medical student, thank you. The cadaver lab allows us to get actual hands on experience with real bodies without the risk of causing harm/death to a living person.
My Mother donated her body as Bulbar ALS took her in 11 months. We believed her brain would be studied by by UCDavis. I always felt she was take care of with care. I hope she was honored.
Did this man remember say that "we don't care about the cost of chemo and brain surgery"??? Where's he been living 👀👀👀👀👀👀
You even have to think about people who disappear mysteriously and body snatchers 😢😢
I can’t believe there are human beings out there who are truly soulless… disgusted.. this is terrible. There should be a law to put these people in jail for life.
1 reason people ask how much a body part is worth is because, my husband passed at 39 in January 2022 and a couple months later I was losing my home so all the money made off DONATED bodies some of that money can help the families
A person who wishes to be a donor is MUCH different than what Sunset Mesa did to my parents. We paid Sunset Mesa for cremation services. They dismembered my dad and sold him in pieces, and sold my sweet mother's body whole. The "cremains" we received were not my parents. Those evil people were scamming people to pay them for services not fulfilled, and then selling bodies and body part on the back end. Although there may be reputable companies, most of them are not. The lack of respect in the mutilation of those who should be honored is dispicable. Just because something isn't illegal, doesn't make it moral. I'm so grateful to Adam and Justin and the whole CBS team for exposing a small portion of this seedy scam. The body broker business needs federal regulation.
Your the second person in the comment section complaining about the same place. Its crazy what our country lets certain people get away with things while someone with weed goes to jail
@@retrospecative2454 Sunset Mesa was one the body brokers highlighted in this story. The women who were stealing our loved ones are now in prison. One was sentenced to 20 years, her mother was sentenced to 15 years, both in a federal prison. The irony is they were convicted on mail fraud charges.
@sandywilson I am so pleased that you eventually received justice for what those evil women did to your parents. I have lost both my parents in the last 8 years and I honestly can't imagine how I would cope if I found out this had happened to them. Here in the UK this couldn't happen. I hope that have found peace now. X
@@sandywilson1545 - “Just because something isn’t illegal, doesn’t make it moral.” I completely agree Sandy. Beautifully articulated!
I was surprised by the factory museum exhibit at 8:35, the "European skull" is pristine white, polished, has all its teeth and with nice proportions and bigger brain volumn next to an "Australian Aboriginal" skull all dirty, brown, disfigured, jagged animal like jaws with hardly any teeth- squat and small brained. What would school kids think after seeing this? He said there's thousands visiting each year. I wonder if they did this on purpose or based on availability, but it sure does contradict the description on the sign. It strongly shows how racism is subliminally taught in the South.
"why is the news media so concerned with the dollar value of SOMETHING" enough said
I just signed the papers today for life science care program for my mothers body..back about 5yrs ago my stepfather passed away and we didn't have the money to bury him i did my research and found the science care program. I was happy that we could donate for science and receive his cremated ashes all for free. So I trust life science to do what it is says. I feel that or body's are just a empty hull and are souls are gone to thebs
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Nothing in life’s free not even death
Wow !
Very Disgusting and Disturbing! ☹️
$375 for a leg? Gives new meaning ITS GOING TO COST AN ARM AND A LEG. $375 seems cheap I think it cost way more than that.
It kind of makes you wish that you wasn’t ever born ever
I received skin donation from the sunset funeral home as my surgeon bought skin from this funeral home and put it inside my radiated breast bc I didn't have enough.. the 'cultivated' skin from this home was infected which almost cost me my life. Thought cancer was bad.. not as bad as infected skin from a 'legal' procedure. The Dr still practices and still is allowed to use this treatment! Dr. Pitcher from Mesa County has practices in Montrose and Mesa County and of course no consequences for him ever!
Wow. That's insane. Thx for sharing. I never knew this was a thing. I hope you are doing OK
@@thekaerichtexas thank you kindly.. doing much better and just wanted others to be aware. If you are a Medicare or medicaid patient, you don't have options as we pretty much are in the hands of a beast system!.. can't believe how this is still their system 😳! Once you except help from government in fine print this is all legal sadly.. much love to you and your beautiful family!
That is disgusting!!!! I am so sorry that happened to you
@@daviddaddy thank you kindly!! 😊 God's got us so no man will destroy us!! Many blessings to you and your beautiful family!
Terrible it's ashame. It's life threating.
The Doctor asking the reporter why people are so concerned about the Dollar value of disected people,says its all, he has lost ALL human feelings of EMPATHY which most humans have....PERIOD. Say what you may, seeing someone who'd once beeen alive and kicking ,now layed up waiting to be cut up for "scientific purposes", is not a scene I want to be a witness to,
Very informative. Thank you for sharing this needed.....but, uncomfortable insight.
It's what I call a necrophiliac's market. I know places that rent by the hour.
Yikes! I’ve always wanted to donate my body to science to my alma mater after I’m gone but now I’ve got to do a lot more research
Where's the body farm donations? Those places like the one created by Dr Bass at The University of Tennessee are priceless. Donate to the body farm at UT or other forensic facilities. They help solve decades old crimes and bring peace to families.
There's a long waiting list for donations to the body farm. They have a surplus
This was fascinating to watch. I've always wondered what happens with donated remains. Great epside!
Disrespectful and horrific
First, thank you for reporting on this topic. What happens when someone agrees to be a "Donor" on their driver's license ? Do they end up in a facility like this ? What if someone is targeted for their DNA/blood type/organs ?
Second, I would agree with the FBI agent, with regard to implementing ONE legal protocol/law for facilities/businesses that handle the legal donation of a body.
Last, there is a difference between body snatching and legally donating a body for legitimate scientific research.
Personally, I have a few questions of my own, due to six family members dying in the month of May, and my infant daughter (Miya Jane Justeson 2/23/2007-3/18/2007) whose body must be exhumed to get to the TRUTH of the crime. Her autopsy was filled with lies/errors, and I have been trying for over 16 years to obtain justice, in addition to, financial restitution, while trying to stay alive. This is not a joke, for it has been absolutely BRUTAL for me for decades (crimes/abuses/etc).
#arrests
#lawsuit
When you consent to organ donation. That does not mean you whole body is going to be chopped up.
@@wnytrashtrucks it also does not mean that it won't be chopped up either
@rocknrootshomestead7018 organ donation is not the same as a body donation
@@wnytrashtrucks with no regulations how would you know?? I totally disagree with you..
@@isabelladavis3946 because it is done in the hospital right after you die. They take you to an operating room and take what they need. Then your body is released to the funeral home or medical examiner's office.
I donated my body to science. About 6 months l called and asked a lot of questions. I was not happy with the results. What choice do I have but to let it go. I live in poverty and cannot afford to ever have a funeral. It's ashame that l can not trust anyone who lies through the phone. I don't think l really care at this point. I just gave up. 😢
What the fff!!! You know why media is so concern??? Because when I sign up in DMV to donate my organs or my body to science if something happened to me. The "DONATE" part got me!!! Who the heck have the time to read those fine lines that my carcass donation could be sold by some bogus money making company!!!! Im sorry, if my body will be used as I donated it. It should be free!!!
After death, the body remains connected to the soul, but we do not see it. When cutting a dead body is like cutting a living body. Cutting a dead body hurts the spirit of the body
The moral of the story is, don’t die. Why this industry isn’t regulated or policed blows my mind.
Sounds more like a Chinese government try to harvest human bodies doesn’t it?
When my father died, I told the funeral home I wanted to be present when they put his body in the oven. I wanted to make sure there was no mix-up in the process, so I could be sure I received HIS ashes, and not someone else's. They told me it was against state law to allow that. (Missouri) But is that really true? And why would they make a law forbidding that?
Liability, probably. I think a business that offers cremation should be required to have a viewing area like prisons for executions.
Google it.🤷🏾♀️
Yes liability reasons
I’m pretty sure you’re allowed to attend a cremation; especially when it’s for religious purposes
This is upsetting. I'll be taking myself off asap. This is beyond disturbing. These poor families. This is what nightmares are made of.
Gross. They should have an agency in charge of this and provide experience to students in the field and use the profits for education or some public good, instead of letting random people make money. Makes me reconsider being an organ donor.
Do these men inside this lab dessecting the bodies agree to donate their body generously?
Body donation and body snatching and alive goes hands together in this industry
Ya know what,I don't want to donate my body to science anymore. Forget it.take it off of my file !
I would never donate my body to "science". The whole idea just creeps me out and I don't understand people that think that this is perfectly normal. Maybe it's just me.
Its nothing new sadly ,back in the 17th and 18th centuries here in England it was common practice for newly buried bodies to be stolen by grave robbers during the night that followed after burial and sold for research purposes ,many tales still floating about regards it in local history books etc so this video is basically a modern day version of it .The human race knows no bounds when it comes to making a shilling or two in profit .
I found this so disturbing it made me so sick to my stomach. Those people who had that dissection event and the people who went there to handle the body parts and watch a dissection of a human body are sickening and perverse - they did it for morbid curiosity and entertainment . A body once held a soul and had the ability to create life, it's not just a meat suit. Human remains should be treated with more respect. This is so sick...what is going on in America?
Wow how creepy is that! imagine places like that existed somewhere and got shut down and became a different business and as customers walk in and felt weird about a place but didn't know it was previously a place where they did all that. Trust your gut instinct! Wow what an incredible news report. There's should be a law at any federal or state for this.
I bet some of those missing people are donated too
One of the most interesting report I found.
So painful to watch.
Wow you really need to read the fine print! IDK how people would make a business out of selling human remains for profit and especially using a chainsaw to dismantle the remains. Its a NO for me definitely
3:06 Well the medical facility received a donor body no charge and they are charging by the pieces
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I swear I was going to donate myself until this video. No way Now !!!
Wow! I always was skeptical of any donor programs so I would have never signed up anyways, but this is still ...wow, I have no words.
How does a person get off of a donor list ????
Couldn't you go where they gave you the donor's card in the first instance? And cancel it?
Or you could find out on the internet.
It's important to me that my dead body is treated with dignity before it's dumped from an aircraft over Mar lago during dinnertime.
Awesome Rick!! Great opportunity!
Man , just think of what the person that worked on that one torso was thinking when they had to cut the head and limbs of the torso of that dead body....cutting off the head of another person along with their limbs because it's for medical science is frightening.
WOW, this is why I'm against
donating my body or any of my family members . This is disgusting and so disturbing . I don't know how anymore can say something like when people donate their bodies or family members body they know exactly what their doing. I never really have it any thought and I especially never suspected this is what's happens to them. If they told them the whole truth I don't think to many people would do it. I'm going to share this with my love ones and as many people I can . I don't what them to be deceive into thinking a lie. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
As a surgical assist who has attended many educational seminars where cadaver limbs, torso and skulls were used, it is an invaluable resource and much is learned from utilizing the gift these donors provide.
I could not agree with you more!!! Who wants a bunch of strangers cutting up your naked body? So sick! 🤮
Oh my, this is something here...almost left me speechless! 🤯😶😱
Wow what an informative clip 😮
He doesn’t understand why people want to know how much money he gets per body is because the people are donating them to science ,not donating to make him a millionaire. They give the ultimate gift to science,for medical schools to use to teach future Drs. People were never “donating “ to a for profit company. I explained this to my parents & they said forget it. If someone could be sure their body went though a nonprofit system they would be happier.
I think the best thing would be to take the profit out of the picture. Just like organ donation, whole body donation should only be done by ethical and regulated facilities for helping to save lives, NOT TO MAKE MONEY!
Ok. Don't donate because the people handling a body will make some money. But how do they keep the lights on, hire someone to deal with the body and whatever else they profit from? Even though almost everything mentioned here actually helps mankind? So these people should work for free? And what happens when you don't donate? Doctors don't advance, the military doesn't advance, the forensic department won't advance which will ultimately harm a living person due to lack of donations. And past that, you would rather be paying for a funeral at a cost far higher than cost. It's your right to do whatever you want, that dead body is not your loved one. It's a cadaver. Your loved one is more than than bones, organs and hair. I say, please research before you say no.
As much as I have no problem donating my body for medical training reasons. I just hope my body is presented as a body which has been through a lot of things and completely does the out of the world techniques to stay alive and keep going! I am a Former Fire Chief and Paramedic with deployments overseas! This guy who disrespected human bodies is a huge disgusting human along with serial killers!
Give a portion of the funds to the family of the donor!
It’s the fact they wanted to do this for free. These people wanted to give themselves to benefit others. Not so that doctor can drive a sports car and grandma ends up in a side show. There is a difference in charging someone top dollar for Grandma’s foot versus charging a bare minimum costs.
Eye opening. Never knew this business existed.
Why are the media concern about the price of the body parts? *they are spreading it to the “right” watcher*
MONEY has perverted everything! Humanity MUST eliminate the concept of money and head toward an egalitarian spiritually sound highly empathetic society under the sovereign humility and respect of God ( I AM THAT I AM ) in the name of Jesus!
This is just sick…why do people choose to give their loved ones away just for them to get mutilated and have their parts scattered across the US? I would never be able to sleep at night.
Oh my goodness I'm sitting here singing that song head shoulders knees and toes..
Wow this is scary and to think that being an organ donor I'd be helping other people!
I can't pick my jaw off the floor.....
Dr was pressed about the dollar figure lmao
Great video
I really don't care what happens to my body after I'm dead. Just inform your loved ones so they can accept it, or protest.
I’d donate my body free to an organization that can legitimately recognized. No problem at all how the remains are used as long as it’s for medical, surgical or whatever procedure is useful to any scientific reason.
I agree and do the same
After death, the body remains connected to the soul, but we do not see it. When cutting a dead body is like cutting a living body. Cutting a dead body hurts the spirit of the body۔
@@exploringtheworld9597 I believe once we die, it's lights out. Period. So what happens to my body after I die is of no concern to me. Better yet, bury me as fertilizer.
Yeah, in a perfect world but organize crime and our government got different plans it’s a multi billion dollar industry on the black market and set up these fronts organizations to keep stealing body parts. There was 30 students came up missing within 20 days in the state of Ohio. And nothing has really been done about it Let that sink in. Let’s just pray 🙏🏾 for world peace.
You sound sick
😮wow how 🤔 very sad what they have done to these people and the families 👪 😢.
Just wow
I’ve considered body donation-how do I check into the company? Thanks for this story.
I would love to be paid upfront while I am alive to donate my body and organs when I die. A couple of millions of dollars won't be a bad idea. When I am dead I am gone, I don't care.
In early 2000s last time I heard donating your body to Science somewhere in NYC they were paying $20,000.
@@MemoGrafix Who and when do they pay? To me when I am still alive or to my family when I die? I want my money now! 😂😂
This is absolutely horrifying! I wouldn,t advise anyone to put their name as a donor after seeing this video. 😢
Please know that a lot of these donors go to good use. Like the FBI agent said, you want surgeons to practice on cadavers before real people. Also, I understand the woman's frustration as she was not informed about the possibility of DOD testing but living people rely on those military vehicles to be blast resilient and so those tests end up saving lives just the same as if his body was used for medical research/education
This is unbelievable 😮....
375 a foot
I do not wish to be registered as a donor, because from experience I know that the state of my organs is by far more valuable for a lot of people than their empathy or sympathy for me being alive.
The hospital never tries to save organ donors
doctors don't get paid for not saving your life. They don't sell your body. Your body goes to your family or whoever you have deemed responsible. This comment is completely disrespectful to doctor's efforts to save your body.
@@kokokat584I worked at a hospital for years. That’s not true. I’m sorry you’ve been misled but that’s not how any of this works. Organ donation is different than this video. Organ donation via your license (Y/N) is for donation to live patients. Not for science. If you’d like to donate your body to science you have to sign other paperwork and make statements saying so.
Black on black violence is basically giving their bodies away ..Some people don’t check their deceased organs ..Some have no clue.😢
This has been going on for decades..trafficking... Ive seen videos on the internet that would haunt people....
These people who donate their body for science is simply so awesome heros. They can detached from their body after death. Yes! I agree. The science center need cost to operate what they do. The doctor is so respectful to the body he processed. The fact this workers need to wear mask while working because the smell of the decay bodies may carries contagious air borne diseases which may bring death.
Ok... I'm changing my mind now!!
So what states have laws requiring donated bodies for educational purposes? This information should be readily available to people wishing to donate?
There definitely should have been more regulations & rules put in place , a long time ago