This was extremely helpful! You made a complex amount of expansions easy to understand. Basically what I got out of this: Knights and cities - Adds lots of new elements and items, Seafares expands the board with boats as roads, and Explorers and Pirates focusing less on trading and great for 2 player.
@@ballaking1000 I agree with you. 2 and 12 are supposed to be weak spots, in order to balance the game. Making those spots twice as good just dilutes the value of the other numbers. Been playing since 2001 and never been a fan of this house rule.
Really appreciated this video, informative, I suspect I understand why this channel is now silent, only just found it and regret that you no longer post.
Got Cities for Knights and suddenly Catan is fighting Eclipse for top spot in my group! Thanks a ton, I think I searched all of TH-cam to get a comparison like this and got C&K!
Just found your review. This is exactly what I needed. So-I have a question though. Our family needs the player extension. Can that be used as a part of the base game so that there can be more players on the expansions you mentioned. Question 2: do you have thoughts on the settlers of America expansion. PS You made a good case for me to get all of them ;).
you will definitely need the base game's 5/6 pack. if you want to play with extra people in a thematic expansion, then you need the base game's 5-6 pack AND the expansion's 5-6 pack. both. as for settlers of america, it's like Explorers and Pirates because it's really long and barely has trading. But it's not as good as Explorers and Pirates, and doesn't play 2 players like Explorers and Pirates does.
+Persephone Constantine Why dont you make more videos again? I think you are so much more enjoyable to listen to than all the other nerdy neckbeard reviewers out there! I just started getting into board games and your opinions have been really helpful in finding the right board games for me.
If you play with expansion and want to play with 5-6 players, you will need FOUR boxes, being the original catan, its extension, the expansion, and its extension.
Thanks for all the explanations! It really helped with which expansion to buy first. My brother introduced us to the game and decided to purchase it ourselves. I think we'll be going with Explorers and Pirates first and might even try to include Seafarers as well. Great video.
Hi! thanks for all the info. I am considering buying seafares + tradings and barbarians. Can I use all 5 expansions of tradings and barbarians in the seafares map?
I like the fish expansion a lot as well, however I dislike the old shoe, it constantly bounces between players and makes you worry about taking the lead which I don't find fun. The last time we played without the boot and I at least enjoyed it much more. Also we do that prank you explained at the end all the time, except it's always on accident =P
Great video, very helpful. I recently had a dispute with a friend over the longest road card. So we were playing a three player game, myself, Jimmy, and Bob. I had a longest road, then Bob got the longest road from me, giving him 4 VP's (cause of the 4 point swing). After Jimmy stole it from bob he had 6 VP's (Bob had 4 VP's then Jimmy got it and got the additional 2 points). In the end Bob had a road of 11 lengths long, Jimmy had one of 11 long also, I had one of 6. I then broke off Jimmy's longest road, so then it would go to Bob, but my logic was that the longest road would essentially go to "limbo" so Bob would get the longest road, but since I broke the longest road he wouldn't get 8 points, only 2, as the 6 point swing in this case wouldn't apply as he didn't build the longer road. I can explain more if this is confusing.
You’re either very confused about how the road works, or there’s a rule change in the expansions you’re playing with I’m not familiar with. However, that said, once longest road is in play, it never leaves play. It can change hands, but never leave.
What the f...OK, I know this comment is really late and I truly hope you've figured this out by now, but the Longest Road card only gives you 2 points if you have it. It doesn't add 2 more points to its point value every time someone takes it away. And it doesn't matter whether Bob added a road segment to get it at the end or if he got it because you broke Jimmy's road, he would only receive 2 points for holding the card either way. It was worth 2 points when you had it, then Bob took it which means you lost 2 but he only gained 2, not 4. Jimmy getting it next means Bob would lose those 2 points and Jimmy would only gain 2 points, not 6. When Bob took the road back at the end he would only gain 2 points, not 8, while Jimmy would lose 2 points the moment he lost the longest road card.
Ok so I still dont understand yet. Do you expand the classic board? Or do you just play the expensions stand alone? I havent seen a video yet that explains this.
You expand the classic board, although some expansions are so different that they are basically a different game. If you just want to expand the classic board, I would go for seafarers.
Persephone Constantine OK. So when you see some people play all expansions at once they must be altering the rules quite a bit I would assume? Also thanks for the reply.
Yes, it's impossible to play with all the expansions at once. You can comfortably combine seafarers with another expansion in most cases. Sometimes I combine different cards or mechanics to basically make a new game but it never ends up that well balanced. In my experience it is less fun to combine too much. It makes the game too long and too insane.
That's right. I play standard + Seafarers + Cities and Knights, and I know for a fact you can mix in the other two. Currently Traders and Barbarians is on the way, and we will be mixing the 4 together.
Cities and Knights means you MUST think really hard about initial setup. Initial setup decides the game, the rest of the time is just proving that it was the best setup. It has a little bit of everything. But the best answer is get rid of the board game altogether, and instead play the 2 player card game. It gets played more.
The thing about Seafarers is that it now is two expansions in one. Cities and knights is my personal favorite but even better is Seafarers plus cities and knights together. For people that only want one expansion though then either traders and barbarians or pirates. I don't know which is better than the other but I think Persephone knows that better than me. I mostly just wanted to mention the additional components that come with Seafarers now and how Cities and knights is kinda meant to be played with Seafarers also, while the others really aren't. Another note is that Traders and Barbarians was originally 3 other small expansions that would cost only $3-$10 each. I personally own a very old version so none of these are compatable with my game, so I'm stuck with just Cities and knights unless I get a new version.
From a fallen warrior: I was just trying to make a decision on which expansion pack to buy and someone decided to let their tits out during these tough dark November nights and have caused mass disappointment at the highest order. Thank you fellow Catan user
+Persephone Constantine I'm also in Cleveland. are there any game stores that have board game days where you can try these expansions before buying them?
+thedeven1 Hey there! North Olmsted mall and South Park mall used to have game nights like that but those stores went out of business. Gamers Haven, on pearl road, is my favorite store in the area but they don't have a night like that either. There is a newer game store on the east side near the Melt that has a game night. you can always go to that board game bar in Lakewood. I don't think they have catan but they have some other games. I don't like that bar though. it's too loud and crowded. the music is so loud that I couldn't hear my own voice :(. I don't live in cleveland anymore :( I'm out in San Francisco now. I love Cleveland and it will always be home.
This is such a great video! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely love this game. Have there been additional expansion sets released since this video was made?
All the expansions dilute the harmonious gameplay and strategy of the base game. They all feel like an excuse to make more money, if you haven't played before just get the base game"settlers of Catan"
Hi Persephone, cool video! My personal favourite is Cities and Knights, I enjoy the challenge of choosing which commodities to invest in. Also are you of Greek descent?
Came here thinking “should I get a Catan expansion?” But now all I’m thinking is “should I get a cat?”
Instead of "CATAN" expansion, "CAT" . Her cat is beautiful
The answer to both questions are obviously yes 🐈
This was extremely helpful! You made a complex amount of expansions easy to understand. Basically what I got out of this: Knights and cities - Adds lots of new elements and items, Seafares expands the board with boats as roads, and Explorers and Pirates focusing less on trading and great for 2 player.
I was gonna ask why she doesn't review anymore but seeing the comments, i understand now
Charles Clark what's wrong with the comments soyboy?
Beacuse people keep talking about how "sexy" she is. Honestly shes not too bad looking :)
She is very attractive, love cats and knows her games.
yikes
care to explain what you understand?
Ohmygosh, you pair the "12" and the "2" together! That is my favorite house rule! I never play without it.
Huh, that's a really good idea, I'll try doing that from now on.
@@Vincentzw It defeats the purpose of the 'give/take' of the game in my opinion. Also an fyi, you replied to a 6 year old comment.. lol
@@ballaking1000 I agree with you. 2 and 12 are supposed to be weak spots, in order to balance the game. Making those spots twice as good just dilutes the value of the other numbers. Been playing since 2001 and never been a fan of this house rule.
@@ballaking1000 who cares how old the comment is lol
@@Panthers8912 You just replied to a 5 month old comment.. lol
Thank you I needed this video. Looks like I was right in thinking Seafarers was the way to go for me.
Seafarers has a lot of scenarios. If you are not going to play the scenarios, you won't get all that much out of Seafarers, IMO.
Balanced and relaxed, original yet down to earth... Someone put this girl on television!
I love how by 7:20 she can't be bothered to go on and so the camera person hands her a shot of whiskey to carry on.
Your cat is adorable! I bet it's sitting there thinking, "stop talking, let's just play the game!"
Thank you for explaining all the aspects of all the expansions! This helped me alot! Seafarers it is!
omg that cat is soo cute!
As we all know red shells are a very powerful item when in first
So much stupid comments
Really appreciated this video, informative, I suspect I understand why this channel is now silent, only just found it and regret that you no longer post.
Wait, why is it silent?
Random Gaming lol wtf
Got Cities for Knights and suddenly Catan is fighting Eclipse for top spot in my group! Thanks a ton, I think I searched all of TH-cam to get a comparison like this and got C&K!
I have been playing Settlers for a long time, but have never played any of the expansions. Thanks for this video. I may now pick up a few of these.
Just found your review. This is exactly what I needed. So-I have a question though. Our family needs the player extension. Can that be used as a part of the base game so that there can be more players on the expansions you mentioned. Question 2: do you have thoughts on the settlers of America expansion. PS You made a good case for me to get all of them ;).
you will definitely need the base game's 5/6 pack. if you want to play with extra people in a thematic expansion, then you need the base game's 5-6 pack AND the expansion's 5-6 pack. both.
as for settlers of america, it's like Explorers and Pirates because it's really long and barely has trading. But it's not as good as Explorers and Pirates, and doesn't play 2 players like Explorers and Pirates does.
+Persephone Constantine Why dont you make more videos again? I think you are so much more enjoyable to listen to than all the other nerdy neckbeard reviewers out there! I just started getting into board games and your opinions have been really helpful in finding the right board games for me.
Thank you!
If you play with expansion and want to play with 5-6 players, you will need FOUR boxes, being the original catan, its extension, the expansion, and its extension.
Thanks for all the explanations! It really helped with which expansion to buy first. My brother introduced us to the game and decided to purchase it ourselves. I think we'll be going with Explorers and Pirates first and might even try to include Seafarers as well. Great video.
I just felt an expansion
im fuckin ded
I first watched this video years ago when I started to play Catan and modern boardgames. Wherever you are, I hope you’re still gaming!
That is interesting. Basing add-ins on personality types. Nice approach to the video!
Do I need the main game to play seafare?
Hi! thanks for all the info. I am considering buying seafares + tradings and barbarians. Can I use all 5 expansions of tradings and barbarians in the seafares map?
How long do you want to play for?
Ive always been curious on what the jist was on the expansions. Thanks for going over them in a simple and fun way!
I like the fish expansion a lot as well, however I dislike the old shoe, it constantly bounces between players and makes you worry about taking the lead which I don't find fun. The last time we played without the boot and I at least enjoyed it much more.
Also we do that prank you explained at the end all the time, except it's always on accident =P
+thomassaurus Yeah I hate the old shoe too.
Settlers, seafarers, and cities and knights. Play all of them at once. It's the absolute best combination.
Hello. Citizen and knights is the best extension on Catan! ;) But if you lose your city at the beginning of the game... You'll lose lol ..
Great video, very helpful. I recently had a dispute with a friend over the longest road card. So we were playing a three player game, myself, Jimmy, and Bob. I had a longest road, then Bob got the longest road from me, giving him 4 VP's (cause of the 4 point swing). After Jimmy stole it from bob he had 6 VP's (Bob had 4 VP's then Jimmy got it and got the additional 2 points). In the end Bob had a road of 11 lengths long, Jimmy had one of 11 long also, I had one of 6. I then broke off Jimmy's longest road, so then it would go to Bob, but my logic was that the longest road would essentially go to "limbo" so Bob would get the longest road, but since I broke the longest road he wouldn't get 8 points, only 2, as the 6 point swing in this case wouldn't apply as he didn't build the longer road. I can explain more if this is confusing.
Kamran Bina I think Bob won.
You’re either very confused about how the road works, or there’s a rule change in the expansions you’re playing with I’m not familiar with. However, that said, once longest road is in play, it never leaves play. It can change hands, but never leave.
What the f...OK, I know this comment is really late and I truly hope you've figured this out by now, but the Longest Road card only gives you 2 points if you have it. It doesn't add 2 more points to its point value every time someone takes it away. And it doesn't matter whether Bob added a road segment to get it at the end or if he got it because you broke Jimmy's road, he would only receive 2 points for holding the card either way.
It was worth 2 points when you had it, then Bob took it which means you lost 2 but he only gained 2, not 4. Jimmy getting it next means Bob would lose those 2 points and Jimmy would only gain 2 points, not 6. When Bob took the road back at the end he would only gain 2 points, not 8, while Jimmy would lose 2 points the moment he lost the longest road card.
Ok so I still dont understand yet. Do you expand the classic board? Or do you just play the expensions stand alone? I havent seen a video yet that explains this.
You expand the classic board, although some expansions are so different that they are basically a different game. If you just want to expand the classic board, I would go for seafarers.
Persephone Constantine OK. So when you see some people play all expansions at once they must be altering the rules quite a bit I would assume? Also thanks for the reply.
Yes, it's impossible to play with all the expansions at once. You can comfortably combine seafarers with another expansion in most cases. Sometimes I combine different cards or mechanics to basically make a new game but it never ends up that well balanced. In my experience it is less fun to combine too much. It makes the game too long and too insane.
My conclusion: all expansion is good and I have to purchase all of them XD
What a great, informed video!
I think I'll stick to the original. Great explanation of the expansions.
world wide webs?
The only Catan game I like anymore is the card game
How the hell do you not have more views/subs? What is wrong with the online world?
btw cities and seafarers together is the best
+Sébastien Henri Thanks for watching and for your nice comment. I should make more videos.
Wait so is there a way to combine multiple expansions w the main game to play with more player?
That's right. I play standard + Seafarers + Cities and Knights, and I know for a fact you can mix in the other two.
Currently Traders and Barbarians is on the way, and we will be mixing the 4 together.
Billey D. Williams I've never seen that bad of a profile picture
Aron Galaviz if you’re looking for more players, there is an expansion that just adds a 5 and 6 player.
what an example for number swap. You may not choose any 12 xD Anyway, great video, and great game, and great cat, and greats....
Aww. In the original mariokart on snes, if you were in 1st place, you could not get red shells. You can play this game on the switch now!
Do you still play to 10 points on this expansion or does it increase?
Alexander Milentis it increases
Very good review, intelligent and well thought out.
Thank you for the video. :)
I'm thinking of giving my sister an expansion for Christmas and this helped me to choose which one to buy.
Thanks for your video I love Catan I don't play it a lot but when I do it is so enjoyable thank you for a great video.
You are very beatiful :)
Thanks for this well made explanation. It is very thorough.
You are beautiful and best answer I ever get to that question! Thank you!
Excellent review, thanks a lot!
Cities and Knights means you MUST think really hard about initial setup. Initial setup decides the game, the rest of the time is just proving that it was the best setup. It has a little bit of everything.
But the best answer is get rid of the board game altogether, and instead play the 2 player card game. It gets played more.
@TheInsane101 that's the US name for it, yes. There are some expansions for it, and quite a bunch of fan-based expansions too.
@TheInsane101 hi Persephone I mean the analog card board version. They never made expansions for digital as far as I'm aware.
@TheInsane101 correct, that's the US name. We in EU know it by a different name, but same game system.
The thing about Seafarers is that it now is two expansions in one. Cities and knights is my personal favorite but even better is Seafarers plus cities and knights together. For people that only want one expansion though then either traders and barbarians or pirates. I don't know which is better than the other but I think Persephone knows that better than me. I mostly just wanted to mention the additional components that come with Seafarers now and how Cities and knights is kinda meant to be played with Seafarers also, while the others really aren't. Another note is that Traders and Barbarians was originally 3 other small expansions that would cost only $3-$10 each. I personally own a very old version so none of these are compatable with my game, so I'm stuck with just Cities and knights unless I get a new version.
LOL I DO THAT SAME PRANK TO PEOPLE THUMBS UP🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can the fisherman of catan be played with seafarers?
Yes, but setups can be interesting.
O:45 - Oh, that’s not why I’m going to keep watching ;D
Nice vid, keep up the good work, Treacle!
I don't like fish!!! Too many cards for me!
You are so cute
Thank you! That's so helpful.
From a fallen warrior:
I was just trying to make a decision on which expansion pack to buy and someone decided to let their tits out during these tough dark November nights and have caused mass disappointment at the highest order.
Thank you fellow Catan user
what the fuck are you talking about
Still relevant
Very clear and helpful explanation.
You only need "Cities & Knights"
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Thanks for this comprehensive brief on the new Catan expansions :) I've never seen the two new ones until now.
I have been on the world wide webs!
Are you Greek?
Easier to find it out through the app
are u filming this in old town?. at that game store?. I could hear the troll passing by during the video. lol
Nope, this was in Cleveland in my old apartment
Sory. My Comment was posted to wrong video. . And thank you for covering the expansions
+Persephone Constantine I'm also in Cleveland. are there any game stores that have board game days where you can try these expansions before buying them?
+thedeven1 Hey there! North Olmsted mall and South Park mall used to have game nights like that but those stores went out of business. Gamers Haven, on pearl road, is my favorite store in the area but they don't have a night like that either. There is a newer game store on the east side near the Melt that has a game night. you can always go to that board game bar in Lakewood. I don't think they have catan but they have some other games. I don't like that bar though. it's too loud and crowded. the music is so loud that I couldn't hear my own voice :(. I don't live in cleveland anymore :( I'm out in San Francisco now. I love Cleveland and it will always be home.
Samson Osburn
jesus christ she is gorgeous! :O
I love cities and knights but I have yet to try traders and barbarians and explorers
Very informative, thanks!
beautiful cat :)
I personally like seafarers
This is an excellent overview of the various Catan expansions. Thank you for taking the time to make it! :-)
Thank you for the video and explaining it. I was looking for a board game for my son and I to play together.
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Adam Weir thank you
Thanks really helped!
You're supposed to make all trades in the open, letting everybody see what is being traded.
This is such a great video! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I absolutely love this game. Have there been additional expansion sets released since this video was made?
Awesome for new player who love Catan core game with all expansion
this is a great review. Very helpful and informative.
I want to get her.....
With these expansions go u use the original game as well?
Paul Stringer yeah, however things like merchants of Europe don't need the base game as far as I know
Thank you! This was super helpful. I think I'm leaning towards getting the Seafarers expansion. Cheers!
Thanks for the informative video! Very helpful.
Seafarers!
Super galbe. 😊👍
Close to 22.000 VIEWS!!! Nice vid!
Awesome video, really the information I've been googling for for days :D
Great video
Very well made video! Thank you!
All the expansions dilute the harmonious gameplay and strategy of the base game. They all feel like an excuse to make more money, if you haven't played before just get the base game"settlers of Catan"
j t I enjoyed the expansions
The game gets very boring. You need new content.
Thank you for this video, twas really helpful 😊
Thank you for making this for us!
this video was very useful!! thank you!
I pull that prank all the time, being all serious and shit xD. Nice vid btw
+Roy Wardenaar Trade you my sheep for your sheep?
Definitely get a tripod, I got one for around $20 at radio shack. Cool vids!
I just tried that trick.. it worked
Cool to see someone who's as obsessed with Catan as I am :)
God damn you fine af
Wow
Great video. Great co-host.
Hi Persephone, cool video! My personal favourite is Cities and Knights, I enjoy the challenge of choosing which commodities to invest in.
Also are you of Greek descent?
+Nickos C Yes, I am half Greek. My Dad is an immigrant.My Mom is German, Irish, and Slovak.
Interesting mix
Have you ever played Catan online?
Radiators!? Sweet!
u had me at red shells haha
This is Boardgamesofterotic
wow. awesome name you have :)