This is truly a really well done and executed scene. He could have just acknowledged the request but he went further and released his men from Duty. I'd like to think that by doing that he gave them the choice following whatever path they want
Alternatively, it’s one last fuck you to Eorzea. That by releasing his men, they won’t be forced to work with the enemy, and he won’t either cause he takes his own life shortly after. So instead of the eorzeans having a cooperative legion in the field that has been operating in the region to help them out, they will get no organized help from Garlemald and will have to complete there objectives by themselves
@@jkdragonjk6895I definitely didn't get that impression at all, I think he cared enough about his own men to release them to return home since there was nothing left for them there. He took his own life because he had just watched everything he had ever known and "loved" crumble to dust.
@@vfvs11a multiple things can be true at once. You very well might be right, but he absolutely could have kept his men in service and helped the eorzeans as an organized legion. But instead he decided to let his men do what they wish, which would include people going home instead of helping the Eorzeans.
@@valic7712 The comment is edited. I'm pretty sure the original complained about the video spoiling things for people. If I remember correctly, which the responder had a point. Why are you going on FFXIV cut scene videos if you don't want spoilers
I had to stop at this point for a bit because it hurt so much. However they did it justice and didn’t do what most games do which is “they took their own life , let’s move on.” They actually showed the consequences of that action.
Story in Garlemald is goddamn dark, only some part of it is heartwarming. One of the things that sticks with me until now is when I talk to a female soldier and she calls me something akin to 'Butcher of Eorzea' because she was in Castrum Meridianum and she saw me slaughtered her fellow soldiers and friends in the dozen like they were nothing. I want them to go deeper into that in future patches, instead of having people admiring you all the time, i want them to send us into Garlemald to help its people and exploring what the Garlean citizens think of "The Butcher of Eorzea". I want to know how they would react if they know who we are.
That NPC always pissed me off. The whole situation with Garleans is complicated of course, but when she said that I was like YOU SLAUGHTERED MY FRIENDS AND TRIED TO INVADE MY COUNTRY???
The whole plan for the 10th Legion to attack and its failure reminds me of the whole Steiner Downfall meme. "Steiner couldn't mobilize enough men. He wasn't able to carry out his assault."
@@HAcoreRD When Yoshi-p mentioned that the players would think to themselves "they really went that far" this is one of those key moments, I cant name another time where the game had a scene so grounded in reality that had such darkness to it
@@Dwayneff It get dark for sure. I cannot believe some things they actually did for an mmo as well. I shook in ways that reminded me of when I watched the first season of Attack on Titan. Maybe even worse at times. Love every moment of it.
@@Dwayneff I finished the story and for me nothing tops actual suicide... that wasn't down played at all...also saying "crossed the line" is complete exaggeration. It was amazing but nothing they did would be considered absurd or crossing any boundaries.complet hyperbole
I never would've suspect that I'd feel sympathy for a group like the Garlemalds. From the beginning, all you mostly knew of them, besides their reasoning and purpose, is that they're the bad guys. These guys raiding other nations to claim as their own. It was then as the story continues, that you start realizing they're not the big threat that one would turn out to be, but have been mere pawns in a chess game for the Ascians that went for decades. All they really had left for the most part is just their pride and dignity as a proud Garlean, grunts under the impression that they're going to handle things in Eorzea under their conditions, until we, the WoL came in, foiling their plans, becoming an obstacle in they're future projects, eventually becoming this 'feared slayer' who surpasses even the mightiest of primals. Bit by bit, expansion by expansion, they're conquest was crumbling until now, with not only by our influence, but becoming just mooks to a greater threat thanks to workings of Fandaniel and Zenos. Lords, who were once heroes or examples to Garlean soldiers, are reduced to shadows of their former selves. Quintus stuck with his guns, and believed that one day, if they wait just a little bit longer, they'll get their chance, until it was over before it even begun. They lost, the war is over, and like some prideful figures, refused to continue on aligning with the likes of us no matter how hard we tried. Rough as his end was, he did the right thing to relieve his men from duty to have their second chance with the Eorzea, but putting the past behind them, and working together.
I mean, they were a big threat and the entire game up till now has only been beatin' their overbearing presence over your head. The only reason they don't seem so threatening is because their military's wiped out. Though you are right, the empire's integrity was shown to be sorely lacking early on and many of its higher ups didn't quite actually believe in the unification they advertised. When Solus died without naming a successor, no one went for the democratic approach to elect a new ruler. Instead, they went at each others throats enacting a civil war fighting for the throne. For power. No better, in fact worse than the "savages" they so proudly scoffed at.
With the years Quintus has spent at war, his pride in his men as a warrior is the only thing that has kept him alive. It was at this moment i realized in his mind it would die with him on the battlefield. "Pride" is truly one of Man's greatest pits of demise. A dark power we should never entrust or rely...
I don't quite think it was pride. I think Quintus was a lot like Gaius, he truly loved Garlamald, and he had just for all intents and purposes watched it die a rather gruesome death.
Well over the years, pride has had this redefinition where it no longer had its original presentation as a sin. What Quintus succumbed to was pride in its originality: an overly nationalistic and loyal view of his home that prevented him from exercising humility toward his “enemies” when he probably knew that the writing was on the wall long before they arrived. And rather than releasing that pride, he gives into it with his suicide, because he no longer had anything to show to his soldiers and the people who depended on his leadership.
@@vfvs11a It's the perfect response because that's literally what Yoshi-P advertised Dawntrail as being. If you still want your gritty grimdark death and despair, there's plenty of it in the latter half with Alexandria.
I still felt more bad for Quintus than genocidal ascian who made a dumb bird then turned emo because he looked for answers for questions that shouldn’t have been answered.
endwalker peaked in garlemald arc and then just goes downhill from there culminating in us fighting a sad bird that didnt pass peer review and some murderhorny fuckboy i have more respect (too strong a word, more like “fuck dude, why?”) for zoraal ja than zenos for sure, a sentence i never thought im gonna type but here we are
FF 14 has some of the best writing in video games. It is the only MMO where I don't skip dialogue. I used to not skip WOW dialogue but the story in recent expansion has become too goofy it feels and they shy away from darker moments like this one
This is how you don't superbolide
God damn it
The cut to the outside with the radio music still playing was such a brilliant eerie touch to this scene
This is truly a really well done and executed scene. He could have just acknowledged the request but he went further and released his men from Duty. I'd like to think that by doing that he gave them the choice following whatever path they want
Alternatively, it’s one last fuck you to Eorzea. That by releasing his men, they won’t be forced to work with the enemy, and he won’t either cause he takes his own life shortly after. So instead of the eorzeans having a cooperative legion in the field that has been operating in the region to help them out, they will get no organized help from Garlemald and will have to complete there objectives by themselves
@@jkdragonjk6895I definitely didn't get that impression at all, I think he cared enough about his own men to release them to return home since there was nothing left for them there. He took his own life because he had just watched everything he had ever known and "loved" crumble to dust.
@@vfvs11a multiple things can be true at once. You very well might be right, but he absolutely could have kept his men in service and helped the eorzeans as an organized legion. But instead he decided to let his men do what they wish, which would include people going home instead of helping the Eorzeans.
That was such a sad scene. I felt so bad for Alisaie when she was so excited to go tell him the good news only to find out he had killed himself.
That whole back and forth between Alphinaud and Alisaie after Quintus' speech had me looking like the side-eye monkey meme the whole time.
Wow, just….. WOW. Between him and Licinia, This chapter is really fucking dark.
This chapter was incredibly dark but god was it good. The weight of the situation was overwhelming
Then play the game instead of going in youtube :/
But yeah, I was shocked af to see that very scene and it is very different from the other expansions
@@shehzadk123 did anyone imply they didn't play it here?
@@valic7712 The comment is edited. I'm pretty sure the original complained about the video spoiling things for people. If I remember correctly, which the responder had a point. Why are you going on FFXIV cut scene videos if you don't want spoilers
@@bigbay1159 sorry bout that. I just wanted to see other people’s reactions to this part. I removed that part cause I’ve completed it by now.
I had to stop at this point for a bit because it hurt so much. However they did it justice and didn’t do what most games do which is “they took their own life , let’s move on.” They actually showed the consequences of that action.
Story in Garlemald is goddamn dark, only some part of it is heartwarming. One of the things that sticks with me until now is when I talk to a female soldier and she calls me something akin to 'Butcher of Eorzea' because she was in Castrum Meridianum and she saw me slaughtered her fellow soldiers and friends in the dozen like they were nothing.
I want them to go deeper into that in future patches, instead of having people admiring you all the time, i want them to send us into Garlemald to help its people and exploring what the Garlean citizens think of "The Butcher of Eorzea". I want to know how they would react if they know who we are.
Did you actually do the sidequests?
That NPC always pissed me off. The whole situation with Garleans is complicated of course, but when she said that I was like YOU SLAUGHTERED MY FRIENDS AND TRIED TO INVADE MY COUNTRY???
heh, wanna see that pro gamer move again?
*queues for Main Scenario Quest roulette*
And so it ends. The Garlean Empire dies here, in spirit if not in name.
And so it becomes part of the pages of history
The whole plan for the 10th Legion to attack and its failure reminds me of the whole Steiner Downfall meme. "Steiner couldn't mobilize enough men. He wasn't able to carry out his assault."
Having watched Downfall before that part hit me hard.
That's my first thing that came to mind when I saw that scene
Oh what I’d give to hear the conversations that happened in the Lifestream.
"I sure hope Lord Quintus will be more willing to hear us out now!"
Oh, the dramatic irony...
He certainly will be more...open-minded.
*Ba-dum-tiss*
This was hard to watch in game, honestly took me a moment to just sit there and process
it was powerful. set the tone for this expansion. Dark, gritty, and feels real.
@@HAcoreRD When Yoshi-p mentioned that the players would think to themselves "they really went that far" this is one of those key moments, I cant name another time where the game had a scene so grounded in reality that had such darkness to it
@@bigbay1159 nooooo, this is just one part, It gets MUCH MUCH darker....they crossed the line is some cutscenes.
@@Dwayneff It get dark for sure. I cannot believe some things they actually did for an mmo as well. I shook in ways that reminded me of when I watched the first season of Attack on Titan. Maybe even worse at times. Love every moment of it.
@@Dwayneff I finished the story and for me nothing tops actual suicide... that wasn't down played at all...also saying "crossed the line" is complete exaggeration. It was amazing but nothing they did would be considered absurd or crossing any boundaries.complet hyperbole
I never would've suspect that I'd feel sympathy for a group like the Garlemalds. From the beginning, all you mostly knew of them, besides their reasoning and purpose, is that they're the bad guys. These guys raiding other nations to claim as their own.
It was then as the story continues, that you start realizing they're not the big threat that one would turn out to be, but have been mere pawns in a chess game for the Ascians that went for decades.
All they really had left for the most part is just their pride and dignity as a proud Garlean, grunts under the impression that they're going to handle things in Eorzea under their conditions, until we, the WoL came in, foiling their plans, becoming an obstacle in they're future projects, eventually becoming this 'feared slayer' who surpasses even the mightiest of primals. Bit by bit, expansion by expansion, they're conquest was crumbling until now, with not only by our influence, but becoming just mooks to a greater threat thanks to workings of Fandaniel and Zenos. Lords, who were once heroes or examples to Garlean soldiers, are reduced to shadows of their former selves. Quintus stuck with his guns, and believed that one day, if they wait just a little bit longer, they'll get their chance, until it was over before it even begun. They lost, the war is over, and like some prideful figures, refused to continue on aligning with the likes of us no matter how hard we tried. Rough as his end was, he did the right thing to relieve his men from duty to have their second chance with the Eorzea, but putting the past behind them, and working together.
I mean, they were a big threat and the entire game up till now has only been beatin' their overbearing presence over your head. The only reason they don't seem so threatening is because their military's wiped out. Though you are right, the empire's integrity was shown to be sorely lacking early on and many of its higher ups didn't quite actually believe in the unification they advertised.
When Solus died without naming a successor, no one went for the democratic approach to elect a new ruler. Instead, they went at each others throats enacting a civil war fighting for the throne. For power. No better, in fact worse than the "savages" they so proudly scoffed at.
With the years Quintus has spent at war, his pride in his men as a warrior is the only thing that has kept him alive. It was at this moment i realized in his mind it would die with him on the battlefield. "Pride" is truly one of Man's greatest pits of demise. A dark power we should never entrust or rely...
I don't quite think it was pride. I think Quintus was a lot like Gaius, he truly loved Garlamald, and he had just for all intents and purposes watched it die a rather gruesome death.
@@vfvs11a a very moving and interesting point indeed.
Well over the years, pride has had this redefinition where it no longer had its original presentation as a sin. What Quintus succumbed to was pride in its originality: an overly nationalistic and loyal view of his home that prevented him from exercising humility toward his “enemies” when he probably knew that the writing was on the wall long before they arrived.
And rather than releasing that pride, he gives into it with his suicide, because he no longer had anything to show to his soldiers and the people who depended on his leadership.
@@RVBMichaelJCaboose "Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees."
Bro when that music started and Julius started giveing his speech I was ok let's fucking go I'm ready
ngl loved jullus. especially in this scene. so badass.
Next time when people say it's a happy weeb game I'll just link this.
That's moreso about the community, not the story.
After current events I can't even stomach looking at the garlemald ruins.
As if I weren't Garlean-pilled before ,the absolute righteous fervor of 0:21 made me double down.
You are my special~
LEGATUS DOWN 🎉
Whats stronger? A conflict between two nations that had been at war for several years? Or some white mage wind magic?
Most Garleans are scared of magic and A-Ruhn is a Padjal, making him extremely powerful
holy fucking shit
Rip bozo
Smoking that Garlepack
We went from this to duels with rubber bullets in Dawntrail.
It's almost as if we were on a vacation or something
@@kaihedgie1747 That doesn't even make sense in response to what I said. And please, don't try to defend DT, you're just going to embarrass yourself.
@@vfvs11a It's the perfect response because that's literally what Yoshi-P advertised Dawntrail as being. If you still want your gritty grimdark death and despair, there's plenty of it in the latter half with Alexandria.
@@vfvs11aDawntrail is leagues above endwalker in both story and gameplay.
>The world is ending? Who cares, let's watch some rabbits eat grapes
@@TactiSmolKoko Whatever you're taking, you need to stop.
I still felt more bad for Quintus than genocidal ascian who made a dumb bird then turned emo because he looked for answers for questions that shouldn’t have been answered.
endwalker peaked in garlemald arc and then just goes downhill from there culminating in us fighting a sad bird that didnt pass peer review and some murderhorny fuckboy
i have more respect (too strong a word, more like “fuck dude, why?”) for zoraal ja than zenos for sure, a sentence i never thought im gonna type but here we are
will you show the full cutscenes?
FF 14 has some of the best writing in video games. It is the only MMO where I don't skip dialogue. I used to not skip WOW dialogue but the story in recent expansion has become too goofy it feels and they shy away from darker moments like this one
I stop playing the MSQ for few hours after this scene, I didn't want to fight anymore, it was so pointless
years later and I think we didn't kill enough garleans
Came here after watching All of us are Dead episode 11. Endwalker did it way better though.