This is what makes him such a great actor. Christian Bale is the only person who actually showed up and took his work serious. Everybody else was just doing a comedy routine.
I mean...the other actors arent doing the comedy things with their own will tho...they just doing what the directors say...so yeah everyone is taking it serious except the director...
That's why I can't stand this movie. Gorr is the most broken (emotionally) and this movie made him a joke. Seriously, look at his comics wiki page, it's a backstory the puts Batman's to shame. Same with a lot of other characters.
I LOVE that scene @1:11 where he's looking around and laughing along with their joke, until he realizes that he IS the joke. Christian Bale literally just came in and said "No one wants to take this movie seriously? Fine, I'll have to do it myself".
Y'all do realize that Bale didn't show up and write his own scenes right? He nailed them, yes, but he didn't decide the lines or tone, that was the writers and Taika.
When the movie started and I saw this scene, I thought to myself: "Wow this really got bad reviews? That was one of the best scenes and acting in the whole MCU!" Boy I really didn't know what lied ahead...
utter shit lied ahead. I had the same reaction..." Wow this is actually good so far i wonder what is bad about the movie"... and once the movie ended i wish i hadn't wasted my time.
The way he transitions between two polar opposite characters: an anguished worshipper and a newborn god-killer, is astonishing. He's the greatest actor of his generation.
Bale did phenomenally well here, he seamlessly transitions his facial expressions from someone enjoying a laugh into the butt of their joke after realizing nothing is funny and that everyone is actually laughing at him. Its a shame all the scenes couldn't have been this poignant. EDIT: Thanks for all the likes y’all!
He was too good for this film. Taika Waititi is a one trick pony, any attempt at a serious plot is beyond him. Joe Joe Rabbit only worked because he could frame everything as a joke from the child's perspective.
@@Valehass Just made this same comment. If he wanted to tell a serious story, he needed to get rid of the Ragnarok humor. Gorr is slaughtering everyone Thor cares about and cannot be beaten. Jane is dying. But hey, we still have time for zany hijinks! Naked Thor! Hahahaha!
@@Alicthewriter "he needed to get rid of the Ragnarok humour" ... i think ragnarok´s humour was rather well placed ... i mean it´s still a film with a literally unstoppable antagonist that only was defeated by having the world/planet she was on corenuked ... Dark World had less humour but still was bland the first thor movie even with a balanced amount humour was decent at best soooo i think it´s not so much a matter of not having any humour but simply a well told and presented story ... the problem is Love and Thunder went TOO over the top with the humor AND had a bland story
@@MrTBSC You misunderstand. I liked the humor in Ragnarok. But this movie needed to be something different. All the MCU movies have taken after GotG and Ragnarok in making them constant goof-fests. Those movies were great for it, but it's becoming a rote trope. Remember the first Iron Man. He's literally executing terrorists. The humor present is limited and sparse in that film and it works so well. Why can't we have more of that? Especially when you get the actual American Psycho to play the lead villain called The God Killer. Its part of the reason the MCU has become so boring in recent years. Edit: I just noticed your post was collapsed. It seems we agree 😂
I think Hemsworth is still professional, but his hands were kinda tied unfortunately due to his contract. If what I've heard is true, Hemsworth lashed out at Taika Waititi for what he's done with the character of Thor ever since he stepped down. He hates how much Thor has been dumbed down to be the biggest idiot avenger (in the first few appearances, he wasn't inherently stupid, just a brackish Asguardian unfamiliar with the ways of Earth.)
this movie feels like it was much longer, maybe more serious, then it was cut down so the pacing feels off and too many jokes were kept in. this movie could have been a fantastic tragedy.
He was the wrong villain for Love and Thunder because he doesn't fit with the comic tone. Ragnarok worked a lot better because of the relationship between Thor and Hulk/Banner. To me, this should have been a darker story and being so silly, it kind of clashes with Gorr and his mission.
I have to admit, the emotional range Christian Bale shows in just this scene is truly magnificent. From his adoration and admiration at first beholding Rapu (You can tell he had longed for that moment his entire life), to briefly laughing along with Rapu and the dryads until he realizes the "joke" is on him, to his desperately begging for help and relief, to growing disillusionment over Rapu's callousness, to righteous anger as he renounces Rapu, which he then lets finally evolve into a calm, steely, merciless bloodlust. An amazing emotional journey in less than four minutes, and all portrayed flawlessly. Bravo!
And despite his bloodthirst he spares the "gods" of Asgard because they bleed red (this is theorized as them not falling to corruption, but also that they are not true gods)
@@richardm6704 In real life lore zues creates humanity in his imagine, thats why we have red blood, because he dose. other gods have "ichor" the blood of the gods.
Christian Bale showed more acting skill and versatility in this four-minute scene than many other actors in an entire film. The way he says the words, especially in the first part, is almost theatrical.
I even can’t imagine being in Gorr’s shoes. Worshipping a God your entire life only for that same God to laugh at you once you have reached the end of it.
honestly I think this scene was perfect how quickly he turned from an innocent worshipping man to a god killer who sees the truth, imagine being in the presence of a god who isn't what you thought he was losing everything you loved because of it and then him laughing in your face id say most people would turn to revenge and a have a killer instinct very quickly
Not if you take life and anybody in it for granted.. including yourself!. Some things change some never. Life as a game of chess or snake and ladders are not permanent constructs but interesting set of opportunities - the idea that nothing is meant to last anyway, so us rat people left to run the rat race while logic dictates, god's dispose, chaos reigns, and the sun keeps the known galaxie (everything in it) eternally bound together! .. Death is really that gift of Jail release we never realise the freedom it delivers.
It's nice to See Rapu's fear in his eyes moments before he dies. Realizing just what he created from his own arrogance. Once a mortal with nothing left to lose and a target of obsession he wants dead for how they took everything from him, and then had the Gaul to try and say their suffering was all they were good for. Immediately when he heard Gorr say "All gods must die" He definitely knew he royally fucked up in every conservable way.
Absolutely! It's always amazing to watch a scene where privileged people (or beings) with power look down on those they deem inferior with ridicule, contempt, and disgust only to tremble with fear and shock when someone they viewed as insignificant gains enough power to get on equal, or greater footing with them.
@@Tjerty Do you NOT like seeing pompous pricks getting what they deserve? The rest of the movie was questionable but alot of it with Gorr in it was pretty good. I am mostly just speaking for this scene not the movie if thats what you mean.
@@bibby659 I like Gorr, and just Gorr. Rapu feels like a child's cartoon level villain. Like, yeah, ok, I'm supposed to hate this guy I get it, but I just can't care about him because of how lame the whole scene is (except for Gorr). What I mean is that Rapu could've been a lot less corny to make Gorr's backstory hit a little better is all.
they needed a middle ground, really - serious Thor doesn't fully work, given Hemsworth isn't the best dramatic actor. But running into the film with child-death and terminal cancer just ended the chance that it could be funny enough to make that a comedic setup. But i think they could have gone for having Gorr, like in this scene, actually be serious, and everyone else treat it as a joke up until the climax, where they realise 'oh no, he's not just some random homeless man, and will genuinely kill every god in existence'
Can we also take a moment to appreciate the acting of New Zealand actor Jonny Brugh (star of What We Do In The Shadows) in this scene? For an actor who usually plays comedic roles he does a really good job of playing the god Rapu as an absolute arsehole. He really sold the character, to the point where everyone was cheering Gorr for killing him. No small achievement in only a few minutes of screen time.
This starting off so strong and could’ve been so good if they just took any bit of it seriously. Gorr is an incredibly dark and brutal villain and should’ve been in a movie that matched his character.
This scene shows how Taika can actually pull off drama and serious stuff once he's kept in check. Love and Thunder had potential to be great were he not so adamant to put silly jokes into every single scene and ruin every single serious moment.
Dude is a joke of a director, this movie had potential with a great villain and actor playing that villain and he wasted it. The MCU is truly dead at this point.
@@jasonrice6966 I think he struggles with serious movies. He needs to learn to take things seriously. Jojo Rabbit was good. And so was that pirate romantic comedy on HBO. He just struggled with serious stuff.
After watching Christian Bale in this role I would dearly love to see him do another Batman movie - not as Bruce Wayne, but as The Joker. He'd be marvelous in the part.👍
Right at the very end of filming this scene is when Taika Waititi checked out and gave up for the rest of the film, figuring it was all in the bag after this point.
Rapu: "look at it, gobbling up my fruit, there is no eternal reward for you DOG, there will be more followers to replace you, suffering for your gods is your only purpose, there's nothing for you after death, except death!" *Chokes Gorr* Gorr: *drives god killing sword through Rapu's throat* Rapu: :O
How so?.."The Lord" isn't a tyrant in anyway like what is shown here, in truth this is how Satan views humanity, the people in Hollywood who make this filth are completely sold out to Satan, and this shows that.
It actually makes sense for him to not even bother. All Black is underpowered and cut off from Knull and, much like the symbiotes in the Sony films, is slowly killing Gorr. Going after Eternity makes a lot of sense.
I thought the whole zeus and his arrogant court thing was going to result in a massacre where Gorr arrives after they ignore Thor's warning and starts taking heads left and right. Wasted potential and an entire section of the movie wasted as what did that entire scene with Zeus and that area achieve that couldnt have been done elsewhere in a 5 minute scene? "oh thats where he's probably headed"
Can you imagine if Gorr took down deity after deity and Thor had to chase him across the universe, each time finding more dead bodies? Kind of chilling really.
Funny, thats 100% how it happened in the comics. One entir issue was basically dedicated to Thor traveling around from world to world, to the cathedrals, and finding only butchered corpses.
The storyline of Gorr in the comics is epic af, sadly Taika Waititi turned it into a dumb comedy skit, similar with what he did with the Ragnarok & Planet Hulk story-arcs.
I still find Rapu's perspective quite contradictory. He claims that there are always more followers, but how's one to gain followers if no one's alive to spread your name? Especially the way he lives in selfish apathy. He would've faded into cosmic obscurity.
He was a bit too cartoonishly evil for this scene to be effective imo. Like Bale's acting is great, but the whole plot only starts because of this scene and I can't take it seriously otherwise.
Because Gods in Marvel are more like aliens than actual gods at least the lesser ones, yeah some of them gain power by worship, but some are powerful even without it, and this God stated that simply can choose another species of intelligent creatures, revealing himself on one form or another.
I don’t know the way I view it is always that he must be a timeless god and this isn’t his first civilization to fall in his name so he must either planet hop or literally waits for life to start again and in which case his perspective kind of makes sense more I’d be probably hate humans if I was god through out all of time and in a blink of any eye in their time a bunch of monkeys evolved and started splitting atoms and throwing them at eachother
This just calls back to *spoilers* Zeus's lament "when did we become the joke" and Rapu demonstrated it perfectly, you ignored ur followers and neglected their prayers with such arrogant apathy. Gawd this just feels like marvels version of suicide squad, what could've been an amazing and dark hero movie ruined by executive meddling and probably a piss ton of cut/scrapped scenes
That was just the best performance of all the movie. He was the best, at the beginning i didn´t recognize him, later at the end while he was already touched my heart with his sorrow, i felt it. When i recognize him well, it all made sense.
"There's the one thing that can kill me. There! Next to you on the floor.... Now let me continue to mock your existence and your loved ones...." Genius writing.
One could argue that the god guy was just that arrogant that he couldn't even conceive of the mortal using the sword on him, but we know the true reason is that Taika Waititi has undisguised contempt for the audience and goes out of his way to insult their intelligence. I mean, why was the sword even there at all? What are the odds that the one person in the whole universe who might get upset enough to kill a god blunders across the one, specific god that broke his heart and ruined his life mere moments after some guy brings the only thing that can kill a god to that exact location? On a related note, in the first Thor movie, Odin explicitly says on-screen about Asgardians that "we are not gods: we are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do, give or take 5000 years."
@@antekmoniek7077 There's a limit to how many coincidences can happen at the same time and still be believable. Writing a non-comedic scene in which too many unrelated things happen that weren't set up earlier because "otherwise there would be no story" is the mark of either an amateur or someone who doesn't give a shit and just wants to get it done so they can go home. The way this scene unfolds is as if a ten year old was playing in his backyard, making up the story on the spot. "Then the god says 'hahaha, I don't care that you're sad about everyone being dead because I'm a bad guy. You can't hurt me anyway.' But the god didn't know I have the only thing that can kill a god, it's the, uh..."-quickly looks around and sees a stick-"it's this sword. The sword of, uh, dea- the Death-sword! So I easily kill the guy and then I say 'all gods will die' and I look cool and awesome. Mum, can I have an ice lolly?" What they should have done instead of this scene is something like: have the guy with the sword attack a different god and injure them before being defeated, to demonstrate the sword is lethal to gods; have the sword then escape being destroyed by dissolving away into the shadows so we know the sword is alive or sentient or whatever; then separate from all that, have Gorr find Rapu's garden and find out Rapu is a complete fuckhead; Rapu breaks the last piece left of Gorr's heart, Gorr falls into anguished rage and denounces Rapu, who has such contempt for mortals that he simply laughs and throws Gorr into a ravine or something; Gorr weeps openly with impotent rage as nearby shadows coalesce into the shape of the Necrosword; the sword soothes Gorr's broken heart, tells him what Rapu did is unforgivable and that it will give Gorr the power to punish Rapu; Gorr accepts and takes up the sword; he returns to Rapu's garden, Rapu gets annoyed that he came back and tries to kill him as if he were a simple pest, but doesn't realise Gorr has the Necrosword now and is executed; as Rapu dies, the sword tells Gorr that all gods are like Rapu, arrogant and contemptuous, so Gorr announces "then all gods must die" and the scene ends.
Its pretty clear that some ancient powerful being had been wandering around with the sword for a long time; but, based on the reactions of the other gods, not nearly as dangerous as Gorr; it wasn't until Gorr acquired the sword that the gods were in a panic, fleeing, running; most likely, something about Gorr makes him more dangerous than his predecessor once he has the sword; after all, could you imagine this gold-bleeding wanker being able to casually murder someone that can stand up to two Thors in a fight? No. They thought the threat was done, that Gorr was helpless, and they had no reason to worry. @@Elriuhilu
Well, it seemed to imply that the sword specifically has to choose him, so it’s probably not the same as picking up your average kitchen knife to stab someone.
It was alluded to by Zeus and Thor that Gorr had killed many gods. But they couldn't show that, they were too busy doing really shitty version of SNL skits, as tautological as that sounds.
Christian Bale should have got an oscar for playing Gorr , he made this whole movie watchable, no disrespect to hemsworth, portman & everyone else but there was too much attempt of slapstick comedy .
Can we also take a moment to appreciate actor Jonny Brugh here as Rapu. For an actor who usually plays comedic sidekick roles, he did a really good job of playing Rapu as an absolute arsehole, to the point where everyone in the theatre was cheering Gorr for killing him. Which is no small feat in only a few minutes of screen time, really.
Haha I already heard. I'll watch it to end but I know not to expect too much. The performance was momerable enough I'll probably only remember that. @@B1aLaF
Everytime I watched a Christian Bale scene in this movie I wanted to tell him something like "don't worry man, you're taking your job as an actor too seriously. This is Marvel, it's like fantasy land". Hands down the most talented actor from this movie.
@@talos6202 See, thank you. I was saying this stuff since Ragnarok came out. The dude can do visuals and some good comedy, but he completely sacrificed any notion of emotional impact or story in both Ragnarok + Love and Thunder. And I really don't get how this is the guy who made JoJo Rabbit. There, he knew how to make the horrors of the real life situations he was drawing from hit hard whilst mocking it with dark comedy.
If the source material is mediocre, the complementing material is mediocre and the production company has always been producing mediocrity, then no matter how good the director is: he will still produce mediocrity. He was one of the few reasons why I decided to watch some Marvel movies, but this specific movie showed that a production company that has been making garbage since Iron Man in 2008 will continue to make garbage, no matter what talented directors they get.
A God is still a God. How can a child kill a man if he's but a child type of thing just xause he's a God of flowers doesn't mean he doesn't have godlike power
Interestingly, this movie came out after the King in Black event in the comics. Since the movies are just another universe and all symbiotes are connected, it is likely that All Black is cut off from Knull and not at its full power.
why do people think he was the god of flowers? He was clearly that worlds Sun God, huge, bronzed skin, head with a crown of radiant lines of gold with light always shining from him. Gorr even calls him the "bringer of light". Flowers? No i don't think so.
theres a comic about gorr, in it two god like creatures fight both wielding powerful swords. In the scene you see slashes on the dead guy meaning he has a blade
0:49 What a magnificent interpretation!! Christian makes an excellent incarnation of a unique character deceived by his faith. "Despite" being a film with special effects and superheroes, this scene is humanly very well done.
This scene is tonally incredible. ik people shitting on the comedic acting, but it works in this scene since it shows the disconnect between god and follower. Gorr has been suffering, lost his daughter and people and is starving to death. Combine that with the god who has the privilege to be indulgent and to not take things seriously as he never had to suffer throughout his existence. The tonal whiplash between these two provides great contrast between someone who is suffering and someone who never had to suffer. Sucks that this kind of tonal back and forth didnt continue.
its crazy how Christian Bale can changed his body hiwever he likes, from quite bulky to skinny as heck, from skinny as heck to fit, from fit to skinny muscle build like this
I hope they delve into the backstory of the necrosword more in future movies. The fact that its a living symbiote and part of Knull, God of the Symbiotes is such a cool story. Theyll probably forget it existed but a man can dream lol
This was like watching two totally different movies edited together. Bale brings such serious, high- quality acting to a flippant, jokey Superhero movie..
The part where they are all laughing at him and he looks around thinking everyone is just having a good time. Innocently trying to be a part of the fun, incredible acting.
I think one way to make the movie better is that we should have more of Gorr's POV, kind of like what they did with Thanos. More scenes, more Gods being slaughtered. If they have balls they can use known Gods and sacrificed them to Gorr.
I agree, but it shouldn't have been a movie, imo, it should've been a miniseries. The tonal stuff is the worst part of the movie, but it also introduces and then discards way too many ideas- they're bringing Jane back, making her the Mighty Thor, AND she has cancer. You still need to continue Thor's character arc from Ragnarok through Endgame. You have a person hellbent on killing all of the Gods, which incidentally is an aspect of your universe you never explored outside of the Asgardians. You have Thor with the GotG at least for part of it. It's just way too much to do justice in a movie, even if it was better made. A miniseries would make it easier to more fully develop the story, including having more Gorr scenes
Thor 4 should've probably been 2 movies or they could've made Gorr the big bad. Especially now that they either fired or are gonna fire Jonathon Majors, they need a top villain and they busted their load on a villain with a director who had no clue how to use him. In the comics he's more brutal and has more bloodlust. He's actually super scary. Here he feels kind of generic.
@@curranfrank2854 Apparently Waititi made it like 4+ hour movie and that's why it's so chopped up and clunky. People blame the studio but it's still his fault because no one is going to pay to watch a 4 hour movie and if he doesn't know that then he needs a new line of work.
@@Aaron-kj8dv That makes sense honestly, explains why there's so much in it. Yeah I liked Ragnarök but Taika definitely deserves a fair bit of blame for this one, he clearly put too much in the movie and despite that he also seemed determined to make the films tone unserious
Heard Christen Bale had to go get medical help after hurting his back after carrying this movie....he's alright now thank god but gave us all a worry there for a second. Also love the fact he stops laughing with everyone once he realized they aren't laughing with him in success but laughing at him in mocking him to think he has a reward for his devotion.
What a great oppening scene this was, the movie then shifts to Korg narrating his version of events, turning the whole thing into a farce. We could have had a seriously awesome movie if it had kept the same tone as that first part.
I imagine Rapu wouldn't dare let a drop of water fall onto his tongue. No, that would be to revolting to have happen. Rapu probably only drinks some kind of wine.
I feel like it fits Rapu, like the water is a symbol of life, and it being dirty is a metaphor for Rapu not caring about the lives of others. Even if it wasn’t intentional, it works well as a metaphor for Rapu’s selfishness and how many lives it costed, and simultaneously what Gorr would become. I just wish the rest of the movie was as good as Gorr’s origin story.
"There's nothing for you after death, except death!" Since we saw Eternity, I had always thought that maybe Rapu was referencing the actual entity Death when he said that.
It makes a lot more sense that he just didn't even bother. All Black is underpowered, which makes sense given that it is cut off from Knull. Going to the other gods would be suicide. Instead, just focusing on one group of gods makes more sense
Nando V Movies has a great video on this idea. The movie doesn't actually have a thesis for what makes a "Good" vs "Poor" god, and therefore muddies the waters with Gorr's mission. Rappu is the one shitty god he kills, but the other gods he kills are not characterized, whereas the ones he doesn't kill in Omnipotent City do seem shitty. But there doesn't seem to be any kind of standard to hold a god to vs a mortal.
Right from this scene, I knew this movie was in trouble. They paired Bale's amazing, serious-toned performance with the corny, over-the-top Rapu character. This movie had so much potential. What a waste of Bale and Gorr!
This is what makes him such a great actor. Christian Bale is the only person who actually showed up and took his work serious. Everybody else was just doing a comedy routine.
hes the one who takes everything seriously ...with passion ...just like cillian and keanu ......unlike the whole fcking M She U and their "wokeness"
I mean...the other actors arent doing the comedy things with their own will tho...they just doing what the directors say...so yeah everyone is taking it serious except the director...
lmao but true
100% he's the only who actually showed up to work.
@@shreysharma726 snowflake, stop complaining about women in your super heroe movies nerd
Man if only the film was as good as this scene, it showed us why Gorr's rampage was justified but it went downhill for being too comical
Agree
All MCU is. They turned all their characters into clowns.
That's why I can't stand this movie. Gorr is the most broken (emotionally) and this movie made him a joke. Seriously, look at his comics wiki page, it's a backstory the puts Batman's to shame. Same with a lot of other characters.
Agreed this movie was pure trash
Then we are agreed...
I LOVE that scene @1:11 where he's looking around and laughing along with their joke, until he realizes that he IS the joke. Christian Bale literally just came in and said "No one wants to take this movie seriously? Fine, I'll have to do it myself".
he's looking if is there any paul allens card on sight
Y'all do realize that Bale didn't show up and write his own scenes right? He nailed them, yes, but he didn't decide the lines or tone, that was the writers and Taika.
@@godzilla90fanActors don't just show up and follow full exact directions
@@davidy22 didn't say they do. But 99.9% of the time they don't show up and rewrite their entire characters either.
When the movie started and I saw this scene, I thought to myself: "Wow this really got bad reviews? That was one of the best scenes and acting in the whole MCU!"
Boy I really didn't know what lied ahead...
What lies ahead was essentially Batman & Robin. Toy advertisement for children.
utter shit lied ahead. I had the same reaction..." Wow this is actually good so far i wonder what is bad about the movie"... and once the movie ended i wish i hadn't wasted my time.
I had that exact reaction
Haha I thought the same thing when I put it on a while back. "Holy shit, this is amazing! I love this movie!"
And it was all downhill from there.
This villain has a lot of potential and can give serious theme of movie (loss of faith, uncertainties). But, nope.
Bale must have alot of back pain from trying to carry this movie
Lmfao
The movie was great. Numbers don't lie
@Dee Lewis numbers don't lie Thor love and thunder did the worst in the box office out of all the marvel movies in 2022 because it was awful
@@deelewis8061 Ye but you do. You lie because you're just aroused.
@@deelewis8061 what drug are you on to say that?
Man I never knew Thor: Love and Thunder was only 4 minutes long
😂
Movie name
@@DenishPatel-i5d bro...
The way he transitions between two polar opposite characters: an anguished worshipper and a newborn god-killer, is astonishing. He's the greatest actor of his generation.
Disagree.
@@carlrice1774 Who would you say is better?
@@terronymusbraddock2350 DDL
Bale is the GOAT
@@rrbcraftergames3361 He's retired. And what makes him better than Bat(e)man?
Bale did phenomenally well here, he seamlessly transitions his facial expressions from someone enjoying a laugh into the butt of their joke after realizing nothing is funny and that everyone is actually laughing at him. Its a shame all the scenes couldn't have been this poignant.
EDIT: Thanks for all the likes y’all!
he was batman for a reason
He was too good for this film. Taika Waititi is a one trick pony, any attempt at a serious plot is beyond him. Joe Joe Rabbit only worked because he could frame everything as a joke from the child's perspective.
@@Valehass Just made this same comment. If he wanted to tell a serious story, he needed to get rid of the Ragnarok humor. Gorr is slaughtering everyone Thor cares about and cannot be beaten. Jane is dying. But hey, we still have time for zany hijinks! Naked Thor! Hahahaha!
@@Alicthewriter "he needed to get rid of the Ragnarok humour" ... i think ragnarok´s humour was rather well placed ... i mean it´s still a film with a literally unstoppable antagonist that only was defeated by having the world/planet she was on corenuked ...
Dark World had less humour but still was bland
the first thor movie even with a balanced amount humour was decent at best
soooo i think it´s not so much a matter of not having any humour but simply a well told and presented story ...
the problem is Love and Thunder went TOO over the top with the humor AND had a bland story
@@MrTBSC You misunderstand. I liked the humor in Ragnarok. But this movie needed to be something different. All the MCU movies have taken after GotG and Ragnarok in making them constant goof-fests. Those movies were great for it, but it's becoming a rote trope. Remember the first Iron Man. He's literally executing terrorists. The humor present is limited and sparse in that film and it works so well. Why can't we have more of that? Especially when you get the actual American Psycho to play the lead villain called The God Killer. Its part of the reason the MCU has become so boring in recent years.
Edit: I just noticed your post was collapsed. It seems we agree 😂
I felt Christian Bale was the only professional actor in this movie.
I think Hemsworth is still professional, but his hands were kinda tied unfortunately due to his contract. If what I've heard is true, Hemsworth lashed out at Taika Waititi for what he's done with the character of Thor ever since he stepped down. He hates how much Thor has been dumbed down to be the biggest idiot avenger (in the first few appearances, he wasn't inherently stupid, just a brackish Asguardian unfamiliar with the ways of Earth.)
@@L0ad1ng45they call you the stupid avenger!😂
"ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT A PROFESSIONAL?!?!"
-Angry Bale
Dumb ass director doesn’t understand Thor. This is what happened when you put comic book characters in the hands of idiots
Gorr is such a great character and Christian Bale is such a good actor!!! If only the whole movie was consistently as good as this scene!!!
this movie feels like it was much longer, maybe more serious, then it was cut down so the pacing feels off and too many jokes were kept in. this movie could have been a fantastic tragedy.
He was the wrong villain for Love and Thunder because he doesn't fit with the comic tone. Ragnarok worked a lot better because of the relationship between Thor and Hulk/Banner. To me, this should have been a darker story and being so silly, it kind of clashes with Gorr and his mission.
@@clanwaddell5628 IMO, the comic tone is not the problem. The story doesn't dive further to the theme the villain brought (loss of faith).
@@nungsap that's a good take. I finally watched Guardians 3 and the level of writing and character work is so much better in that movie.
@@clanwaddell5628they probably didn’t want a repeat of Thor the dark world so they made it more comedic than it needed to be.
I have to admit, the emotional range Christian Bale shows in just this scene is truly magnificent.
From his adoration and admiration at first beholding Rapu (You can tell he had longed for that moment his entire life), to briefly laughing along with Rapu and the dryads until he realizes the "joke" is on him, to his desperately begging for help and relief, to growing disillusionment over Rapu's callousness, to righteous anger as he renounces Rapu, which he then lets finally evolve into a calm, steely, merciless bloodlust.
An amazing emotional journey in less than four minutes, and all portrayed flawlessly.
Bravo!
Yep. Thats the rushed nature of the MCU. Things that should be drawn out are only 5 minutes and things that should only be 5 minutes are drawn out
He was only missing the tears and red eyes of despair.
And despite his bloodthirst he spares the "gods" of Asgard because they bleed red (this is theorized as them not falling to corruption, but also that they are not true gods)
@@richardm6704 In real life lore zues creates humanity in his imagine, thats why we have red blood, because he dose. other gods have "ichor" the blood of the gods.
From Christian Bale to Atheist Bale.
You deserve many, many, many more likes. Very nice
Underrated comment of the year
@@vajoynus Exactly!
Its more like anti-theist
Atheist? Nah man he became kratos 😂
Bale is a versatile actor. From a pitiful servant to a vengeful god-killer with a permanent scowl
KRATOS: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
Yea, one of the world's greatest.
There's Daniel Day Lewis, and then him, IMO.
@@jorgetomedeandradealves8565 Kratos is a joke.
@@paulievespucci6867 bro how
Imagine Morbius fighting Gorr as Joker fighting Batman.
Christian Bale showed more acting skill and versatility in this four-minute scene than many other actors in an entire film. The way he says the words, especially in the first part, is almost theatrical.
I didn't even realize it was Christian Bale to begin with
I even can’t imagine being in Gorr’s shoes. Worshipping a God your entire life only for that same God to laugh at you once you have reached the end of it.
honestly I think this scene was perfect how quickly he turned from an innocent worshipping man to a god killer who sees the truth, imagine being in the presence of a god who isn't what you thought he was losing everything you loved because of it and then him laughing in your face id say most people would turn to revenge and a have a killer instinct very quickly
Not if you take life and anybody in it for granted.. including yourself!. Some things change some never.
Life as a game of chess or snake and ladders are not permanent constructs but interesting set of opportunities - the idea that nothing is meant to last anyway, so us rat people left to run the rat race while logic dictates, god's dispose, chaos reigns, and the sun keeps the known galaxie (everything in it) eternally bound together! .. Death is really that gift of Jail release we never realise the freedom it delivers.
Like Abraham?
@@brianbrowning9064 ?
@@harvey271 Yeh, I'm confused by this, what did that guy mean?
@@johnorulzu quick google: Abraham might’ve sacrificed his child Isaac to God (not sure though)
It's nice to See Rapu's fear in his eyes moments before he dies. Realizing just what he created from his own arrogance. Once a mortal with nothing left to lose and a target of obsession he wants dead for how they took everything from him, and then had the Gaul to try and say their suffering was all they were good for.
Immediately when he heard Gorr say "All gods must die" He definitely knew he royally fucked up in every conservable way.
Absolutely! It's always amazing to watch a scene where privileged people (or beings) with power look down on those they deem inferior with ridicule, contempt, and disgust only to tremble with fear and shock when someone they viewed as insignificant gains enough power to get on equal, or greater footing with them.
This basic surface level writing really hits well for you guys huh
@@Tjerty Do you NOT like seeing pompous pricks getting what they deserve?
The rest of the movie was questionable but alot of it with Gorr in it was pretty good. I am mostly just speaking for this scene not the movie if thats what you mean.
@@bibby659 I like Gorr, and just Gorr. Rapu feels like a child's cartoon level villain. Like, yeah, ok, I'm supposed to hate this guy I get it, but I just can't care about him because of how lame the whole scene is (except for Gorr). What I mean is that Rapu could've been a lot less corny to make Gorr's backstory hit a little better is all.
Heh, heh, it was a good moment!
pssst "gall".
If everyone else took this movie as seriously as Christian Bale did, we wouldn't have such a disappointing end product
No you definitely would. Remember The Dark World? It would’ve been another version of that
they needed a middle ground, really - serious Thor doesn't fully work, given Hemsworth isn't the best dramatic actor. But running into the film with child-death and terminal cancer just ended the chance that it could be funny enough to make that a comedic setup. But i think they could have gone for having Gorr, like in this scene, actually be serious, and everyone else treat it as a joke up until the climax, where they realise 'oh no, he's not just some random homeless man, and will genuinely kill every god in existence'
@@Jackferrett6781dark world was good, y'all are just don't get it
@ it was complete garbage. It’s why we got Ragnarok
Seeing Rappu’s arrogant indifference and Gorrs tragic heartbreak made me cheer Gorr on
yup... is the thing with humanizing comic villains in movie adaptations.... you end up rooting for them, or at least understanding them
Rapu was easily the douchiest god I’ve ever seen, and I’ve played all the main god of war games
Agreed. His world, his people were suffering, dying - he did nothing but mock them , laughing at thier pain..
Can we also take a moment to appreciate the acting of New Zealand actor Jonny Brugh (star of What We Do In The Shadows) in this scene? For an actor who usually plays comedic roles he does a really good job of playing the god Rapu as an absolute arsehole. He really sold the character, to the point where everyone was cheering Gorr for killing him. No small achievement in only a few minutes of screen time.
Idk, Ares was a real prick.
Extremely dumb too. Ah yes there's a god killing sword there, best make this guy that worships me completely hate me instead.
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 Comedians had always higher range than most actors. Bill Burr, Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey, etc.
This starting off so strong and could’ve been so good if they just took any bit of it seriously. Gorr is an incredibly dark and brutal villain and should’ve been in a movie that matched his character.
If they took it seriously it would’ve been The Dark World all over again
@@Jackferrett6781 atleast it was better than love and thunder
@@W.waffles are you kidding? Hemsworth didn’t like it
@@Jackferrett6781 and you think he liked love and thunder???
@@W.waffles source: trust me bro
A movie about him going around killing gods instead would've been so cool.
But the necrosword is from knull where gorr steals the sword from
This scene is brilliant, Rapu thinks so little of Gorr and is so arrogant that he casually points out the god killing sword on the ground
Chekov's Gun was first coined in the 1880's
Nobody can just wield the sword at will. Like he said, the sword chose Gorr. But yeah his arrogance is what got him killed.
@@thelaughindustry773and by all means! Let it happen!
this movie had so much potential, honestly Gorr needed his own movie to shine
This scene shows how Taika can actually pull off drama and serious stuff once he's kept in check. Love and Thunder had potential to be great were he not so adamant to put silly jokes into every single scene and ruin every single serious moment.
Woke shit
Yeah. The MCU stopped taking itself seriously and that’s to its detriment.
Not really. This shows that Bale was the only one willing to make a serious movie and got stuck with taikas crap instead.
Dude is a joke of a director, this movie had potential with a great villain and actor playing that villain and he wasted it. The MCU is truly dead at this point.
@@jasonrice6966 I think he struggles with serious movies. He needs to learn to take things seriously. Jojo Rabbit was good. And so was that pirate romantic comedy on HBO. He just struggled with serious stuff.
Gorr, the hero the universe needed.
Hell yeah
Yes gods are cruel and overrated
Actually without you and your Israel/nato circus 🎪 this universe not less even a little
I wouldn't say that given that he was under the influence of a murderous symbiote.
@@rosesweetcharlotte didn't he renounce those gods once he knew they we upto no good
1:17 his face. That’s when the villain was born
Heath Ledger and Christian Bale is just on a whole other level of acting. Crazy that they were in a movie together opposite each other.
Ledger made Bale better.
After watching Christian Bale in this role I would dearly love to see him do another Batman movie - not as Bruce Wayne, but as The Joker. He'd be marvelous in the part.👍
This intro was the best part of the movie
Gorr will always remain one of my top MCU villains. What a portrayal by Christian Bale!
Is Gorr really a villain tho? To me the god in this scene is the villain.
He kidnaps and held hostage a group of kids-
“Now let’s see Paul Allen’s reward”
Villains are not born, they are made, this is the perfect example!
Amazing actor. In the span of just three minutes, Christian Bale goes from a groveling servant to a god killer with such ease.
Right at the very end of filming this scene is when Taika Waititi checked out and gave up for the rest of the film, figuring it was all in the bag after this point.
Rapu: "look at it, gobbling up my fruit, there is no eternal reward for you DOG, there will be more followers to replace you, suffering for your gods is your only purpose, there's nothing for you after death, except death!" *Chokes Gorr*
Gorr: *drives god killing sword through Rapu's throat*
Rapu: :O
This scene has so much meaning if you think about it. Plus Christian Bale is a great actor regardless of the role
What meaning?! Gods are dicks and you should murder them?! Dude me thinks you’re reading a bit too far into this one.
True
So true, this scene and the premise of actual gods living amongst people, seems so much interesting that what the whole movie was about
Yeah , but we actually have a life.
And have better things to do than to "think about it".
How so?.."The Lord" isn't a tyrant in anyway like what is shown here, in truth this is how Satan views humanity, the people in Hollywood who make this filth are completely sold out to Satan, and this shows that.
How can a film start off so good… and then immediately fall so far downhill from here?
producers pandering to focus groups that probably thought that "that scene was too dark"
@@Critical-Smoke the irony is that the MCU is supposed to be for more mature Marvel fans. And yet they still often pacify it.
Too bad we didn’t see him kill other gods. It would of been cool seeing him fight the gods with his sword.
Exactly, this movie could've been action packed
Yeah but that would have been too expensive and entertaining, instead Taika needed the budget for CGI Goats who scream.
It actually makes sense for him to not even bother. All Black is underpowered and cut off from Knull and, much like the symbiotes in the Sony films, is slowly killing Gorr. Going after Eternity makes a lot of sense.
I thought the whole zeus and his arrogant court thing was going to result in a massacre where Gorr arrives after they ignore Thor's warning and starts taking heads left and right. Wasted potential and an entire section of the movie wasted as what did that entire scene with Zeus and that area achieve that couldnt have been done elsewhere in a 5 minute scene? "oh thats where he's probably headed"
@@EddieSpaghetti555 The screaming goats are actually in the old thor comics strange tales. Its from source material.
Wow, they really went hard on this intro just to completely drop the ball on the rest.
2:45 did i just hear this right? "Revenge.... Go to daddy..."
You did not.
Yes he did
Can you imagine if Gorr took down deity after deity and Thor had to chase him across the universe, each time finding more dead bodies? Kind of chilling really.
Funny, thats 100% how it happened in the comics. One entir issue was basically dedicated to Thor traveling around from world to world, to the cathedrals, and finding only butchered corpses.
It kinda happens here as well, just a much shorter journey.
Not a hard man to find...He leaves dead bodies wherever he goes!
No Gods, No Masters.
The storyline of Gorr in the comics is epic af, sadly Taika Waititi turned it into a dumb comedy skit, similar with what he did with the Ragnarok & Planet Hulk story-arcs.
I still find Rapu's perspective quite contradictory. He claims that there are always more followers, but how's one to gain followers if no one's alive to spread your name? Especially the way he lives in selfish apathy. He would've faded into cosmic obscurity.
He was a bit too cartoonishly evil for this scene to be effective imo. Like Bale's acting is great, but the whole plot only starts because of this scene and I can't take it seriously otherwise.
Because Gods in Marvel are more like aliens than actual gods at least the lesser ones, yeah some of them gain power by worship, but some are powerful even without it, and this God stated that simply can choose another species of intelligent creatures, revealing himself on one form or another.
I don’t know the way I view it is always that he must be a timeless god and this isn’t his first civilization to fall in his name so he must either planet hop or literally waits for life to start again and in which case his perspective kind of makes sense more I’d be probably hate humans if I was god through out all of time and in a blink of any eye in their time a bunch of monkeys evolved and started splitting atoms and throwing them at eachother
This just calls back to *spoilers*
Zeus's lament "when did we become the joke" and Rapu demonstrated it perfectly, you ignored ur followers and neglected their prayers with such arrogant apathy. Gawd this just feels like marvels version of suicide squad, what could've been an amazing and dark hero movie ruined by executive meddling and probably a piss ton of cut/scrapped scenes
well, if he was immortal he could just wait until the world evolved sentient life again or was colonized, and it seems like he'd done it before.
That was just the best performance of all the movie. He was the best, at the beginning i didn´t recognize him, later at the end while he was already touched my heart with his sorrow, i felt it. When i recognize him well, it all made sense.
"There's the one thing that can kill me. There! Next to you on the floor.... Now let me continue to mock your existence and your loved ones...."
Genius writing.
One could argue that the god guy was just that arrogant that he couldn't even conceive of the mortal using the sword on him, but we know the true reason is that Taika Waititi has undisguised contempt for the audience and goes out of his way to insult their intelligence. I mean, why was the sword even there at all? What are the odds that the one person in the whole universe who might get upset enough to kill a god blunders across the one, specific god that broke his heart and ruined his life mere moments after some guy brings the only thing that can kill a god to that exact location?
On a related note, in the first Thor movie, Odin explicitly says on-screen about Asgardians that "we are not gods: we are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do, give or take 5000 years."
@@ElriuhiluDude, that’s literally how fiction work😂
@@antekmoniek7077 There's a limit to how many coincidences can happen at the same time and still be believable. Writing a non-comedic scene in which too many unrelated things happen that weren't set up earlier because "otherwise there would be no story" is the mark of either an amateur or someone who doesn't give a shit and just wants to get it done so they can go home.
The way this scene unfolds is as if a ten year old was playing in his backyard, making up the story on the spot. "Then the god says 'hahaha, I don't care that you're sad about everyone being dead because I'm a bad guy. You can't hurt me anyway.' But the god didn't know I have the only thing that can kill a god, it's the, uh..."-quickly looks around and sees a stick-"it's this sword. The sword of, uh, dea- the Death-sword! So I easily kill the guy and then I say 'all gods will die' and I look cool and awesome. Mum, can I have an ice lolly?"
What they should have done instead of this scene is something like: have the guy with the sword attack a different god and injure them before being defeated, to demonstrate the sword is lethal to gods; have the sword then escape being destroyed by dissolving away into the shadows so we know the sword is alive or sentient or whatever; then separate from all that, have Gorr find Rapu's garden and find out Rapu is a complete fuckhead; Rapu breaks the last piece left of Gorr's heart, Gorr falls into anguished rage and denounces Rapu, who has such contempt for mortals that he simply laughs and throws Gorr into a ravine or something; Gorr weeps openly with impotent rage as nearby shadows coalesce into the shape of the Necrosword; the sword soothes Gorr's broken heart, tells him what Rapu did is unforgivable and that it will give Gorr the power to punish Rapu; Gorr accepts and takes up the sword; he returns to Rapu's garden, Rapu gets annoyed that he came back and tries to kill him as if he were a simple pest, but doesn't realise Gorr has the Necrosword now and is executed; as Rapu dies, the sword tells Gorr that all gods are like Rapu, arrogant and contemptuous, so Gorr announces "then all gods must die" and the scene ends.
Its pretty clear that some ancient powerful being had been wandering around with the sword for a long time; but, based on the reactions of the other gods, not nearly as dangerous as Gorr; it wasn't until Gorr acquired the sword that the gods were in a panic, fleeing, running; most likely, something about Gorr makes him more dangerous than his predecessor once he has the sword; after all, could you imagine this gold-bleeding wanker being able to casually murder someone that can stand up to two Thors in a fight? No. They thought the threat was done, that Gorr was helpless, and they had no reason to worry. @@Elriuhilu
Well, it seemed to imply that the sword specifically has to choose him, so it’s probably not the same as picking up your average kitchen knife to stab someone.
With a name like "The God Butcher", you would think we might see him Kill more than one god.
It was alluded to by Zeus and Thor that Gorr had killed many gods. But they couldn't show that, they were too busy doing really shitty version of SNL skits, as tautological as that sounds.
Not sure why everyone talk crap about this movie, I loved the whole thing!!
Gorr should of just had his own movie. His backstory is incredible.
It's "should've" punk. Smh
@@AyudaPurusha_369 Don't be that guy bro
@@user-ih6oe9ny3j I hate to be that guy bro. But it's like the cut on the roof of your mouth that you can't stop tonguing.
doesn't mean you have to be rude about it@@AyudaPurusha_369
I agree. At least give him his own film where the gods he kills are justified, then make him the main bad guy in a different film.
Christian Bale should have got an oscar for playing Gorr , he made this whole movie watchable, no disrespect to hemsworth, portman & everyone else but there was too much attempt of slapstick comedy .
Can we also take a moment to appreciate actor Jonny Brugh here as Rapu. For an actor who usually plays comedic sidekick roles, he did a really good job of playing Rapu as an absolute arsehole, to the point where everyone in the theatre was cheering Gorr for killing him. Which is no small feat in only a few minutes of screen time, really.
I see, I agree. It's not the actor's fault they did their best, especially Bale he was awesome as Gorr. but the writing was bad, that made the movie 👎
“oH mY gOd hE sHoUld gEt oScAr”
Can we please stop calling for Oscars any time we witness actors demonstrating mildly competent acting?
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 I'd love to get choked by him
@@OBroIchain Why are people so emotionally invested in acting awards anyway???
THE GREATEST ACTOR OF OUR GENERATION - MR BALE
Jesus, I haven't even seen the movie; just this scene. And he is absolutely astounding. That is a top tier actor, he's incredible.
2 months late, but I think itd be for the best if you didnt watch the rest of the movie. Just pretend it was equally as good.
Haha I already heard. I'll watch it to end but I know not to expect too much. The performance was momerable enough I'll probably only remember that. @@B1aLaF
Everytime I watched a Christian Bale scene in this movie I wanted to tell him something like "don't worry man, you're taking your job as an actor too seriously. This is Marvel, it's like fantasy land". Hands down the most talented actor from this movie.
Kratos and Gor team up would b a nightmare for the gods considering how they both hate gods
Probably the best scene from the whole movie. Everything after this was a joke...thanks to that idiot Waititi
Dude, I've been saying the exact same thing about Waititi.
@@talos6202 See, thank you. I was saying this stuff since Ragnarok came out. The dude can do visuals and some good comedy, but he completely sacrificed any notion of emotional impact or story in both Ragnarok + Love and Thunder.
And I really don't get how this is the guy who made JoJo Rabbit. There, he knew how to make the horrors of the real life situations he was drawing from hit hard whilst mocking it with dark comedy.
@calebnichols7069 my guess is Thor lacks the emotional weight he is best at contrasting with
WWDITS is a great show. Idk how he screwed up the mcu. Maybe on purpose
If the source material is mediocre, the complementing material is mediocre and the production company has always been producing mediocrity, then no matter how good the director is: he will still produce mediocrity. He was one of the few reasons why I decided to watch some Marvel movies, but this specific movie showed that a production company that has been making garbage since Iron Man in 2008 will continue to make garbage, no matter what talented directors they get.
Still makes me wonder how the god of flowers and fruit salads managed to defeat the previous wielder of the necrosword.
A God is still a God. How can a child kill a man if he's but a child type of thing just xause he's a God of flowers doesn't mean he doesn't have godlike power
Interestingly, this movie came out after the King in Black event in the comics. Since the movies are just another universe and all symbiotes are connected, it is likely that All Black is cut off from Knull and not at its full power.
why do people think he was the god of flowers? He was clearly that worlds Sun God, huge, bronzed skin, head with a crown of radiant lines of gold with light always shining from him. Gorr even calls him the "bringer of light". Flowers? No i don't think so.
@@JTheTeach or maybe the god of light bulbs or flashlights, hence the title "bringer of light
theres a comic about gorr, in it two god like creatures fight both wielding powerful swords. In the scene you see slashes on the dead guy meaning he has a blade
0:49 What a magnificent interpretation!! Christian makes an excellent incarnation of a unique character deceived by his faith. "Despite" being a film with special effects and superheroes, this scene is humanly very well done.
Christian Bale is such a great actor
He really indeed is. We gotta think about his effort.
The way he delivers the line "the eternal reward" is so good
The eternal reward is the pink slip.
This scene is tonally incredible. ik people shitting on the comedic acting, but it works in this scene since it shows the disconnect between god and follower.
Gorr has been suffering, lost his daughter and people and is starving to death. Combine that with the god who has the privilege to be indulgent and to not take things seriously as he never had to suffer throughout his existence.
The tonal whiplash between these two provides great contrast between someone who is suffering and someone who never had to suffer.
Sucks that this kind of tonal back and forth didnt continue.
When I first saw this scene, I was like "yup, i'm sold, all the Gods gotta go". Never have I rooted for the villain of a film more.
I saw this scene and was like “whoa this movie is about to be good”. I was wrong.
I thought the same thing
It's still a good movie.
Bale carried this whole movie on his back, while it giggled, cackled and cringed. Pearls to pigs.
its crazy how Christian Bale can changed his body hiwever he likes, from quite bulky to skinny as heck, from skinny as heck to fit, from fit to skinny muscle build like this
I hope they delve into the backstory of the necrosword more in future movies. The fact that its a living symbiote and part of Knull, God of the Symbiotes is such a cool story. Theyll probably forget it existed but a man can dream lol
With Marvel going full gear into the Multiverse I thought it would be a perfect time to bring in Knull and by extension the Symbiotes.
@@owenbicker799 what r u talking about? Symbiote you mean the venom guy or ?
@@omar619kamis the sword is the symbiote god aka venom, carnage, etc. THE symbiote.
Sony 😂😂
Bale completely outclassed everyone else in this movie.
serves him right for messing with the BATmAn 🗿
Or pissing off an American Psycho
christian did an excellent job, and it gives me hope that the sequel might continue to explore the folly of divinity.
Ain’t no sequel
And if there is, it’ll be a 3 hour slapstick comedy.
@@captjackp
Agreed
@@petrri323
Very true
"guys, religion bad. now gimme my reddit gold while i tip my fedora and scratch my pimpled neckbeard"
Gorr deserves a movie of its own
Yesterday, I noticed something.. The Villain in DCU (Bane) is "almost a Hero" in MCU (Venom)..
& Villain in MCU (Bale) is Hero in DCU (Batman)😅😅😅
He can talk with a sword in his throat… _Amazing_
hahaha ikr
Well, he is a God.
Gods can do that if you've seen sone greek mythology stories
Christian Bale is such an incredible actor. I wished there were more scenes with him!
This was like watching two totally different movies edited together. Bale brings such serious, high- quality acting to a flippant, jokey Superhero movie..
Real actors are still around, they can't get work because Hollywood is such a joke.
If you're curious on watching the movie, this is it folks...Best scene in the whole movie, and it's 2 minutes in.
0:51 the food in his face goes from left to right in scene change.
lol true
The part where they are all laughing at him and he looks around thinking everyone is just having a good time. Innocently trying to be a part of the fun, incredible acting.
*Kratos* : I know that feeling bro.
yeah
Christian Bale is an incredible actor. One of the best I have ever seen.
Rapu had it coming
oh man, this scene just shows how good the movie could have been. Gorr slaughtering gods and really bringing some action to the MCU
I think one way to make the movie better is that we should have more of Gorr's POV, kind of like what they did with Thanos. More scenes, more Gods being slaughtered. If they have balls they can use known Gods and sacrificed them to Gorr.
I agree, but it shouldn't have been a movie, imo, it should've been a miniseries. The tonal stuff is the worst part of the movie, but it also introduces and then discards way too many ideas- they're bringing Jane back, making her the Mighty Thor, AND she has cancer. You still need to continue Thor's character arc from Ragnarok through Endgame. You have a person hellbent on killing all of the Gods, which incidentally is an aspect of your universe you never explored outside of the Asgardians. You have Thor with the GotG at least for part of it. It's just way too much to do justice in a movie, even if it was better made. A miniseries would make it easier to more fully develop the story, including having more Gorr scenes
Thor 4 should've probably been 2 movies or they could've made Gorr the big bad. Especially now that they either fired or are gonna fire Jonathon Majors, they need a top villain and they busted their load on a villain with a director who had no clue how to use him.
In the comics he's more brutal and has more bloodlust. He's actually super scary. Here he feels kind of generic.
@@curranfrank2854 Apparently Waititi made it like 4+ hour movie and that's why it's so chopped up and clunky. People blame the studio but it's still his fault because no one is going to pay to watch a 4 hour movie and if he doesn't know that then he needs a new line of work.
@@Aaron-kj8dv That makes sense honestly, explains why there's so much in it. Yeah I liked Ragnarök but Taika definitely deserves a fair bit of blame for this one, he clearly put too much in the movie and despite that he also seemed determined to make the films tone unserious
or dont hire Wakai for serious movies. He turns everything into a nonsense circus.
Literally the only good scenes in the movie were the ones featuring Christian Bale. What an actor, what a performance.
Heard Christen Bale had to go get medical help after hurting his back after carrying this movie....he's alright now thank god but gave us all a worry there for a second.
Also love the fact he stops laughing with everyone once he realized they aren't laughing with him in success but laughing at him in mocking him to think he has a reward for his devotion.
Don't worry not the first time Bale healed from a back injury and crawled out of a giant hole.
What a great oppening scene this was, the movie then shifts to Korg narrating his version of events, turning the whole thing into a farce. We could have had a seriously awesome movie if it had kept the same tone as that first part.
Also wasting GotG ...
This was the most satisfying scene in the whole movie.
My mom fell asleep on this movie when we saw it in theaters 😭
As she should
Ah, the smart one...
Popcorn guy slipped her a ruthy
I love how in this ideal paradise that is tended by an actual god, the water is still murky and looks undrinkable
I imagine Rapu wouldn't dare let a drop of water fall onto his tongue.
No, that would be to revolting to have happen.
Rapu probably only drinks some kind of wine.
I feel like it fits Rapu, like the water is a symbol of life, and it being dirty is a metaphor for Rapu not caring about the lives of others. Even if it wasn’t intentional, it works well as a metaphor for Rapu’s selfishness and how many lives it costed, and simultaneously what Gorr would become. I just wish the rest of the movie was as good as Gorr’s origin story.
This is what happens when a Christian finally realizes his role in relation to God. Or the state. To be sacrificed, otherwise known as altruism.
Okay Andrew Ryan lol
Gorr is basically like Kratos, both blamed to the gods for lost their families, leading them to harbor a hatred and distrust toward the deities.
Good reason to even Zeus in real myths was an asshole quite a few times.
Don't forget Hyperion from the movie Immortals (2011).
"There's nothing for you after death, except death!"
Since we saw Eternity, I had always thought that maybe Rapu was referencing the actual entity Death when he said that.
They did Bale dirty. This should have been the whole movie but they short-changed him so they can do a parody instead.
The first few words after transition… jjeeeezzzzz, goosebumps man! Such a radical tranaformation in the same take
This was the best scene in the movie, incredible how the whole thing went downhill after this.
part of movie? i was thinking this is short film
Gorr couldve been so much more bro...Bale did an incredible job
I wish they would’ve shown Gorr killing more Gods before he met Thor. Maybe if he Shockingly showed up at the hall of Gods when Thor was there.
It makes a lot more sense that he just didn't even bother. All Black is underpowered, which makes sense given that it is cut off from Knull. Going to the other gods would be suicide. Instead, just focusing on one group of gods makes more sense
Tbh this whole situation could’ve been avoided if Rapu didn’t tell Gorr what the sword was used for.
I know! Why hang out and party by the one thing that can kill you? Then tell everybody it can kill you?
He did kill its previous host. He likely believed that he could kill Gorr
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I swear Bale kills it every time. Guy is amazing!
It's kind of funny how the movie never actually debunks literally every non-Asgardian god proving Gorr 100% right.
Gorr is right, but his methods are wrong
@@Akatsukileader9are they though? Selfish gods should die.
Who says? Maybe he should have reasoned with them like in this scene?
The Asgardians were just as bad
Nando V Movies has a great video on this idea. The movie doesn't actually have a thesis for what makes a "Good" vs "Poor" god, and therefore muddies the waters with Gorr's mission. Rappu is the one shitty god he kills, but the other gods he kills are not characterized, whereas the ones he doesn't kill in Omnipotent City do seem shitty. But there doesn't seem to be any kind of standard to hold a god to vs a mortal.
Am i the only one who likes the villian the most in this movie?
No one cares
@@AntBrown1984 cared enough to comment.
Right from this scene, I knew this movie was in trouble. They paired Bale's amazing, serious-toned performance with the corny, over-the-top Rapu character. This movie had so much potential. What a waste of Bale and Gorr!
When you are a child, you have heroes. When you're an adult, you understand the villains.
Dammit, Gorr had the potential to be up there with Thanos and Killmonger, but of course, Taika screwed it up.