Cheap Sax/Pro Mouthpiece Vs. Pro Sax/Cheap Mouthpiece
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2021
- Jim plays a Sakkusu alto saxophone with a pro mouthpiece to see how it stacks up against a £5,000 Selmer Paris instrument with a basic plastic mouthpiece.
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I wasn't surprised by this at all. In high school, junior year I switched to a higher quality mouthpiece on my student instrument and the difference was absolutely tremendous.
Even with a crappy mouthpiece the quality of the Selmer shines through.
Would have been interesting to change mouthpieces in comparsison. The budget horn with Pro mouthpiece seems a good Budget solution.
The cheap sax sounds a little more rich though. The selmer is very good even with that though
I always like to tell my students:
Approximately 60% of your sound comes from you, 25% of your sound comes from your mouthpiece, ligature, and reed combination, and the last 15% is the saxophone you're playing on. Love the NASA shirt by the way!
That sounds about right. Yeah, that's the first airing of the NASA t-shirt. You should see the back of it - that's where most of the action is
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@@dominicmanzella5493 basically has NASA in much bigger writing and huge print if the USA flag
@@jimcheek304 ah I know the one. That's cool!
Those Sakkusu saxophones can really play. I borrowed my son’s for a gig when my mkvi was being worked on and it was fine. Different world from student instruments 30 years ago.
The concept of a chain being only as strong as its weakest link springs to mind.
Another thing about setting a student up with a pro mouthpieces early is that they can keep the mouthpiece while they move up through the intermediate and pro level horns. That lets them feel the difference that the horn makes without having to adapt to a new mouthpiece as well.
Love these types of videos. It's very much like the pro guitar/cheap amp vs. pro amp/cheap guitar comparisons done. Well done
And even more important than either the mouthpiece or the sax is what happens in your vocal tract. Basically, the closer something is to your lungs the more influence it has on your tone. Great vid, thanks Jim! 👍🏻
This was a very interesting comparison, and exactly what I've expected for quite some time. Thank you🎷
Interesting and enjoyable video. I’d like to see a video where you take the student, intermediate, and pro model of any one brand and tell what you gain, what’s the difference in each sax as you move up. Always enjoy your playing.
Loved this video!!! Definitely shows the importance of having a good set up!!! The horn itself can only take you so far. But a good horn AND a good set up can really put you over the top!!!
Thank you for the example at the end with the Meyer on both horns. You can really hear that Selmer sound.
Mouthpiece makes all the difference in my opinion-it did for me at least
For me, it's reed, first, then mouthpiece, then ligature and horn.
Thanks for that video
Confirms my philosophy. I run a Sakkusu tenor (s/h eBay £350) with a Jody Jazz HR* piece and it's great. I have an Eastar alto which cost £180 NEW. With a Better Sax Burnin piece, it's great. My (top drawer) tech was hugely impressed by both. The other advantage is if you're a gear geek of modest means you can collect or swap between mouthpieces for a couple of hundred - you'd need deep pockets to be similarly promiscuous with saxes.
Set Up let's beginner GAS right away AND it's money well spent. MP and reed improvement extremely upgrades a cheaper saxophone result.
The closer the instrument is to your mouth, the more important it is to your tone. The mouthpiece is way more important than the horn and your video proves it. Silver or gold plate the neck and you’ll hear a difference as well bc it’s so close to the mouth. Silver or gold plate the bell and I bet you won’t hear a difference!
If the student sax is in good working condition, a quality, balanced mouthpiece will outplay a pro sax with a disposable mouthpiece every time.
👍Thank you
The NASA shirt ads a special touch hah
Man! I really can hear the difference, and I have a Reference 54.
Without a good reed, no player or equipment will ever sound their best, and it is what can be changed the fastest.
Whats the tune in the back called?
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Was the ligature the same on both horns? The lig also makes a big difference.
It looks the same when I jumped between them
The ligature makes NO difference in sound. As long as it holds the reed to the mouthpiece, it will sound identical to any other ligature that holds the reed to the mouthpiece. And unfortunately, some really expensive ligatures do a rather poor job of holding the reed to the mouthpiece.
As Jerry Bergonzi says" It starts with the mouthpiece"
Sakusu sounded fine to me. Selmer are out of business 😂
I’m definitely not sure what you pay for buying an expensive mouthpiece. May be some players think that there is a relationship between price and quality. I think the cheap beginner mouthpieces are coming with a small tip opening because it’s easier to play on by beginners..
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How it feels is almost as important as how it sounds.
If it is comfortable to play it frees you to use a wide range of timbres.
The further from your brain the less it matters.
1st you have to know the sound you want to make and then there's the air, the oral cavity the emboucher...all absolutely essential to have sorted!
Next reed mouthpiece ligature..HUGELY important.
Then the neck.
By the time you get to the actual horn, prolly 75% of your game is set....of course that last 25% isnt trivial...but focus head air cavity embouchure reed mouthpiece lig....thats where you get the biggest payoff.
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The difference between the Selmer & the Sakkusu, when using the Meyer mp was negligible! Whereas the difference when using the cheap mp was stark.
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I've never really understood why the precise (down to fractions of a millimetre) dimensions of very expensive mouthpieces couldn't be very easily and cheaply duplicated by today's computer-controlled manufacturing systems. The same goes for flute headjoints costing thousands of pounds. Why do beginner saxes have to come with such rubbish mouthpieces? What am I missing? Is it down to the materials used?
It can be duplicated by machine, namely CNC machines. A few drawbacks with this, metal only and its still expensive cause CNC machines cost a ton.
They did this with Guardala mouthpieces for a while, they're like 300$ or something?
They are. Cheap mouthpieces are very consistent, they just have small tip openings.
Conclusion: the best thing I can change in the setup is... me.
just an observation, but why don`t you ever have any women in your videos don`t women play saxophones?
*'Cheap sax with pro mouthpiece' is that good combination ?*