Metal Vs. Ebonite | Saxophone Mouthpieces
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2021
- At some stage of your saxophone journey, there comes a time where a new mouthpiece is vital. Whether this is your first upgrade, a new very serious piece, or a replacement for the one you have left in a pub after a rather raucous gig, there are some key fundamentals that you must consider. One of those being, metal or ebonite? In this video, Jim helps explain the key differences between the two!
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Appreciate your input into the metal versus hard rubber discussion! Have been playing for 50 yrs and used a Brilhardt metal mouthpiece on my Yamaha Professional Tenor and it gave me a more focused and as you said a greater range of nuances especially when playing solo lower register love songs for a Valentine's banquet or wedding reception!! With experience you can use a metal mouthpiece to your musical advantage and become the next Kirk Whalum that no one has ever heard of before!!!
I agree 100% with the comment below. Another one of your excellent, "gimmick-free delivery and thoughtful" analyses. Thanks!
I appreciate your clear, gimmick-free delivery and your thoughtful analysis. I’m sticking with my hard rubber Jody Jazz Jet (perfect in a ska band!) but it’s always good to listen around
❤ you really are the best at reviewing equipment for us man. Thank you
I really liked the metal alto piece and then really liked the metal link. I have both of the Otto Link pieces and always go back to the metal. I only have a Meyer 5 medium alto piece which I have played for 50 years. I play mostly tenor and I like the feel of the smaller metal mouthpiece. Both are 7*s.
I have learned much from you
Thanks for the insights
I think it's great to just try different ones. And different reed strengths! Some of these combinations can really surprise you. And exercise your embouchure in a way that playing the same piece and reed won't.
The ebonite would be better in a cold environment because your lips won't freeze to the mouthpiece. But if you live in a fairly consistent environment in terms of temperature, it's your preference. In the hot summer, ebonite won't burn your lips when you get ready to play, so there's the Southwestern USA covered.
This is great, I'm playing the metal Link which is really nice and plays well. What are your views of 3D printed MPC (such as SYOS) for tenor where the emphasis can be designed into the product? Thanks
Metal especially the STM on tenor has a special tone. I'm thinking Hank Mobley but there are obviously many others... but I feel Ebonite or HR is more stable. My metal pieces are either great or very poor day to day! Hence I've stuck with my Ted Klum HR tonamax.
Only difference is the armature you need to develop…that’s it! ☮️🎶🎵🎶🎷
I like having two different setups alto. For straight ahead playing, I like using a Vandoren A6S+. A very nice player for 100USD. It plays the whole range very well, and gets all the nice overtones I like. For pop, I just bought a Theo Wanne Mindi Abair Signatue 8. It gets that punch in all the right places, Screaming altissimo, fat low end, and all that. Absolutely wouldn’t recommend to a beginner though.
What reeds do you use for the A6? I’ve always found it very thin in the upper register and maybe buzzy
@@ajibolafalade5630 Vandoren Java 3 Green Box. I haven’t had a problem with that.
That Durga sounds just like the Shiva you played yesterday.
Because maybe more than 90% is player, not the stuff. I have dukoff d9 super power chamber and it sounds round and soft and half-dark. Because my teacher teached me to play this way and this sound. I don't know play harsh and loudly.
I understand that sound is created in internal shape and differrence is in strength of material. Metal is stiffer and can be much more thinner than hard rubber. Then I don't understand why there are no hard rubber mouthpieces in size of metal with extremely higg baffle and low chamber and vice versa, there are no metal.mouthpieces big as hard rubber with extremely big chamber.
There are tons of high baffle rubber mouthpieces and large chamber metal pieces though. Heck, Mule played a metal classical piece for a while
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There can be no argument or debate related to metal against hard rubber provided both are precisely of the same impedance. Metal providing a much easier playing piece with more edge, more projection but less body. After more than fifty years refurbishing saxophones and building mouthpieces of just about every impedance value, I just cannot deny the empirical fact that metal serves a different use. I have quite fortuitously arrived at a design for a compromise mouthpiece offering a unique performance , ease of playing, some edge, some projection, some body, medium impedance , using stainless steel as the construction material. Even with metal, there is a definite gradation from the brightest stainless steel, brass, bronze or gun metal and the softest copper.I must totally agree with you as to the use of a metal mouthpiece for tenor particularly for rock and roll and hard jazz when it would be just plain ridiculous to use a hard rubber or plastic piece here. Notwithstanding the commercial hype of manufacturers concerning the unique designs of their mouthpieces, there is one totally definitive parameter that absolutely determines the character of the mouthpiece whether of metal or composition material, hard rubber, or polymer and that is the impedance. The higher the impedance the warmer, softer, full bodied , no edge non projecting the sound but harder playing mouthpiece with the reverse being true. Thank you for your video.
Playing guitar for yrs and harmonica for a phew more yrs
I'm considering buying my first learners sax and probably a nice mouthpiece.
Is the number rating on some mouth peaces the empendense?
@@RandoDred Thank you for your comment. The numbers given against mouthpieces mean absolutely nothing to anyone but the manufacturer. Each manufacturer has his own system to make confusion worse confounded. No manufacturer has ever provided information related to impedance, which after all is what determines the uniqueness of the mouthpiece. There can be no better choice for a beginner mouthpiece than a metal, low impedance, small chamber, no baffle, straight side wall mouthpiece.
My ebonite mouthpiece has a strange smell- I have discovered this is ‘sulphur’ due to oxidisation of the mp in sunlight…. my Selmer C* smells of sweet tobacco is there any way to get rid of this or reverse the process.
Nope. Hard Rubber mouthpieces will always have a smell of burning rubber to them. You can mitigate with warm soapy water but it will never go away
@@Daedalus33 Does warm water not turn hard rubber brownie - green?
@@macs7641 if you wash your mouthpiece a lot yes but just once or twice to remove the smell should be ok, just don’t use hot water. But also it’s going to turn brownish after a few years anyway so personally i wouldn’t care.
@@Daedalus33 Thanks👍🏻
Ces deux Durga me semblent assez peu sympathiques , dégagent peu de chaleur et encore moins de complicité avec moi . Pour parler plus clairement , je ne les aime pas , ah , ah , ah !!!