A really great piece! A solid achievement by a composer of any age! The theme of the second mvt Scherzo is the same as that of the Menuetto (this time, in 6/4) of the First Symphony of the following year. This Sonata has a lot of the same flavor as the Symphony. It’s in the same key, and shows a very gifted young composer who had unlimited possibilities. Good performance, too!
The opening motif with the turn is taken directly from the first movement of Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony. It’s the oboe solo after the development section. It’s the same, note for note from the Beethoven and this sonata is in the same key as Beethoven’s 5th, which I am sure is not a coincidence. Mendelssohn was highly influenced by Beethoven of course and Mendelssohn quotes Beethoven a lot especially in his early music like this sonata. Nice homage to the older composer……
True....I believe Mendelssohn was Wagner's nemesis.....His 'Walküerenrit' merely inverted the 'Fingal's Cave' main melody....like Rakhmaninov did with Paganini in Variazone 18. Cheers from Acapulco!!
Huh, never thought of it that way! That theme has so many connections to Erda, Wotan, Donner', and Siegfried's music, but you're right, it is eerily similar to a Fingal's Cave inversion.
I always heard a premonition of the Walkürenritt in the Act 3 prelude of Wagner's Die Feen, which is contemporaneous or possibly somewhat earlier and very possibly independent to the Hebrides
Slightly unrelated but whats the most beautiful piece youve heard this month or even this year And then whats the most relentless, driving piece youve heard this month
Most beautiful, Rheinberger elegie for cello and organ op. 150. Most driving, Khachaturian symphony no 3 (the crazy one one organ and 15 off stage trumpets)
The violist here - going with some music that was new to me this past year. For most beautiful I'll offer up the Chaconne from Rameua's opera Dardanus. Most driving, eh, I don't know, just listen to more Rameau. :)
This is wonderful! So glad I did the search. I lov.e the viola sound and wondered why they're seldom featured. I think the viola jokes are in poor taste generally.
The violist here - I love viola jokes! They are an important part of being a violist. We're able to laugh at ourselves in a way self-serious violinists can't.
Great playing by both. Thanks for not recording another brahms (as much as I love him). I briefly met the pianist at sick puppy a few years ago. This piece was always a tough sell for me but this is about as good as I can imagine it sounding. I used to think the pianist had the heavier workload, but the violist needs enough artistic vision and charisma to make this hold together, so I guess I changed my mind on that (my experience in hearing older recordings of this work was always underwhelming). I also seem to have a vague recollection of the andante being used in his first symphony or something like that.
Thank you! The pianist might indeed have the heavier workload, but that helps make up for the viola-heavy workload when we recorded the "Arpeggione" Sonata!
Both are indispensable, and since violins are the soprano and alto instruments, they are necessarily prevalent. Having said that, I adore the viola, and lament there aren't more concertos and sonatas.
Cellists should absolutely play it! The essence probably would be retained. Some of the stuff would be exceptionally difficult, but that hasn't stopped cellists before!
Why is this titled "Wagner's Nightmare"? I doubt Felix ever caused him one. The Paris Jockey Club, no doubt, and many others, but not Mendelssohn-Bartholdy.
A really great piece! A solid achievement by a composer of any age! The theme of the second mvt Scherzo is the same as that of the Menuetto (this time, in 6/4) of the First Symphony of the following year. This Sonata has a lot of the same flavor as the Symphony. It’s in the same key, and shows a very gifted young composer who had unlimited possibilities. Good performance, too!
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The opening motif with the turn is taken directly from the first movement of Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony. It’s the oboe solo after the development section. It’s the same, note for note from the Beethoven and this sonata is in the same key as Beethoven’s 5th, which I am sure is not a coincidence. Mendelssohn was highly influenced by Beethoven of course and Mendelssohn quotes Beethoven a lot especially in his early music like this sonata. Nice homage to the older composer……
He was 15 when he wrote this, so it is probably a homage to Beethoven, an exercise, or both.
Wonderful! The beginning is so well spoken. Bravi!
This is a great work at fourteen years of age that like all we do in the present has no idea what the future will be.
Outstanding
Danke!
I love Viola I played many pieces of deferens Composers ❤
True....I believe Mendelssohn was Wagner's nemesis.....His 'Walküerenrit' merely inverted the 'Fingal's Cave' main melody....like Rakhmaninov did with Paganini in Variazone 18. Cheers from Acapulco!!
Huh, never thought of it that way! That theme has so many connections to Erda, Wotan, Donner', and Siegfried's music, but you're right, it is eerily similar to a Fingal's Cave inversion.
I always heard a premonition of the Walkürenritt in the Act 3 prelude of Wagner's Die Feen, which is contemporaneous or possibly somewhat earlier and very possibly independent to the Hebrides
The Variations are delicious.
Genau. They are indeed.
Slightly unrelated but whats the most beautiful piece youve heard this month or even this year
And then whats the most relentless, driving piece youve heard this month
Most beautiful, Bruchner Symphony 6 Adagio - most driving, Shostakovich 5 pieces for two violins and piano fifth movement - polka
Most beautiful, Rheinberger elegie for cello and organ op. 150. Most driving, Khachaturian symphony no 3 (the crazy one one organ and 15 off stage trumpets)
@@derekdzinich8690 Thanks! I'll look them up.
@@tijmendr1 And thank you too!
The violist here - going with some music that was new to me this past year. For most beautiful I'll offer up the Chaconne from Rameua's opera Dardanus. Most driving, eh, I don't know, just listen to more Rameau. :)
This is wonderful! So glad I did the search. I lov.e the viola sound and wondered why they're seldom featured. I think the viola jokes are in poor taste generally.
The violist here - I love viola jokes! They are an important part of being a violist. We're able to laugh at ourselves in a way self-serious violinists can't.
How do you know when a violist is at your door...? She can't find the key and doesn't know when to come in!
@@emfox6280 That reminds me of a certain conductor who said that Mahler's symphonies remind him of a person coming home and unable to find their key.
@@wagnersnightmare4062 so true.
@@wagnersnightmare4062 you know why viola jokes are so stupid, right?
so violinists will understand them.
😉 (violist/composer here)
Great playing by both. Thanks for not recording another brahms (as much as I love him). I briefly met the pianist at sick puppy a few years ago.
This piece was always a tough sell for me but this is about as good as I can imagine it sounding. I used to think the pianist had the heavier workload, but the violist needs enough artistic vision and charisma to make this hold together, so I guess I changed my mind on that (my experience in hearing older recordings of this work was always underwhelming).
I also seem to have a vague recollection of the andante being used in his first symphony or something like that.
Thank you! The pianist might indeed have the heavier workload, but that helps make up for the viola-heavy workload when we recorded the "Arpeggione" Sonata!
Viola >>> Violin
Violist☕
viola is pretty underrated true. I don't get it. Such a nice tone
Both are indispensable, and since violins are the soprano and alto instruments, they are necessarily prevalent. Having said that, I adore the viola, and lament there aren't more concertos and sonatas.
¿El que tenes en la foto es un personaje de Alejo y Valentina?
@@oldionus the viola can play mostly what the violin can play
does this explore the viola enough...would the essence be retained if directly transposed to 'cello?
Cellists should absolutely play it! The essence probably would be retained. Some of the stuff would be exceptionally difficult, but that hasn't stopped cellists before!
Am I crazy or the beginning sounds a bit like shostakovich?
Like Rachmaninoff!!!
You are crazy.
Ah, yeah, I can see the similarity to the start of the cello sonata.
Why is this titled "Wagner's Nightmare"? I doubt Felix ever caused him one. The Paris Jockey Club, no doubt, and many others, but not Mendelssohn-Bartholdy.
channel name
Channel name and the name of the wider project :)
Очень плохо.
Почему?
I'm sorry you had a bad experience listening to our recording. Please a review so that we can do better next time.
@@АлексейМартышкин-э8сВозможно, скучно звучит. Но это может зависеть и от самой музыки.