Listening to smart, passionate writers talk about screenwriting is always instructive and inspirational. This series is like eavesdropping in the Driskill Bar during the Austin Film Festival. I'm extremely geeked to be part of it.
Great series guys. This format is one of the few screenwriting channels I find interesting. 😂👍🏾 It’s hard for me to guess bc the bigger the writer, the less they need to sell their voice. But so far I’m guessing correctly. It’s about confidence on the page for me.
Confidence on the page goes a long way, for sure. Funny you said that about more successful writers needing to sell their voice less on that first page. Have had two managers (including my own) say the exact same thing to me since we started this series.
I also chose D1. The description of the insect stunning/killing its prey then devouring it could be foreshadowing what will happen to the humans in the story. Thank you for doing these videos. It really gets me thinking more about my own writing.
Not sure how I stumbled on this series, but thank you for doing this. Super interesting, and for me, every one of the matches is close to a toss-up. I have noticed in the two videos I’ve watched that the scripts are vey description heavy. It would be interesting to see a series of match ups that have more dialogue to the point where the decision would be made based on dialogue not action and description. But regardless, keep up the good work and thanks again for doing this.
Damn you, Nate, for putting equally matched scripts up against each other!!! hahahaha Got the first one right, missed on the 2nd, 3rd both have things I loved and hated (formatting opinion only) but damn, at least I got it right. I was sold on D2... wrong! So 2/4 for me on this one. Had to look at my notes cuz I forgot to post earlier. On to #3!
B2 was the better script, but I knew it would be B1, simply because B2 was so much stronger IMO. Absolutely NO HOOK w/B1, but of course it's only 1 page. Anyway, fun discussion!
This first group was very tough for me to figure out, as someone who teaches a screenwriting workshop I have to disagree with the panel as both had several amateur vibes to me. What I enjoy about this and the subjectiveness or readers is you guys tend to focus more on descriptors and action lines, where as, I see things in the formatting i.e. FADE IN: or sluglines that have - Morning, even TITLE OVER vs. SUPER just reads amateur to me. Now, that's not to imply the writing's not good as I've read 100s of amateurs scripts that were VERY well written with the exception of formatting. Fun channel, love to play along from home!
Im surprised how many pro scripts are giving camera direction when so much advice tells new writers not to. Also it would be interested to ask what would it take for a specific average amateur page one to be mistaken for a pro. Of course not one that people guess as pro already. Maybe next time pick a weak pro and a weak joe comparison.
Generally, that advice is coming from one of two places. Often, it’s because it’s not uncommon for newer writers to use those camera directions poorly, bogging down the read as opposed to making it more cinematic. But also, there are definitely a lot of people who don’t really know what they’re talking about, who regurgitate advice in an effort to seem like experts, without really knowing the reason for that advice in the first place. At the end of the day, if you need to include a shot in order to help the reader see the movie better, you should include it. Otherwise, you can typically do without.
B1 - why bother with the postman's dialogue at all. Just have the kid running out of the post office and heading to the sherrif's office. Seems like a waste of space.
Listening to smart, passionate writers talk about screenwriting is always instructive and inspirational. This series is like eavesdropping in the Driskill Bar during the Austin Film Festival. I'm extremely geeked to be part of it.
Thank you so much for being part of it, man.
Great series guys. This format is one of the few screenwriting channels I find interesting. 😂👍🏾 It’s hard for me to guess bc the bigger the writer, the less they need to sell their voice. But so far I’m guessing correctly. It’s about confidence on the page for me.
Confidence on the page goes a long way, for sure. Funny you said that about more successful writers needing to sell their voice less on that first page. Have had two managers (including my own) say the exact same thing to me since we started this series.
I also chose D1. The description of the insect stunning/killing its prey then devouring it could be foreshadowing what will happen to the humans in the story.
Thank you for doing these videos. It really gets me thinking more about my own writing.
We LOVE hearing that these are inspiring people with their own writing. That's basically the best compliment possible.
Another banger. Love this series
Not sure how I stumbled on this series, but thank you for doing this. Super interesting, and for me, every one of the matches is close to a toss-up. I have noticed in the two videos I’ve watched that the scripts are vey description heavy. It would be interesting to see a series of match ups that have more dialogue to the point where the decision would be made based on dialogue not action and description.
But regardless, keep up the good work and thanks again for doing this.
Keep it up g’s, this is better than filmschool. Streaming from Spain
Appreciate it! Thanks for checking it out.
Damn you, Nate, for putting equally matched scripts up against each other!!! hahahaha Got the first one right, missed on the 2nd, 3rd both have things I loved and hated (formatting opinion only) but damn, at least I got it right. I was sold on D2... wrong! So 2/4 for me on this one. Had to look at my notes cuz I forgot to post earlier. On to #3!
Fun series. I love reading rising pro first pages.
Yay part 2. You gotta get David L. Williams in on this as well.
He and his manager are lined up for an upcoming one!
@@NGDwrites Awesome!
@@NGDwriteshell yeah
Dave's on the way!!
Love this exercise! Thanks much!
Thanks for checking it out!
Thanks, very interesting. Keep the format going.
Will do!
I am loving this series... please keep going!
Definitely more to come!
Once again I"m 4/4... I've guessed all the pros. Nathan, I'd love to submit one of my first pages.
please do!
B2 was the better script, but I knew it would be B1, simply because B2 was so much stronger IMO. Absolutely NO HOOK w/B1, but of course it's only 1 page. Anyway, fun discussion!
It was fun to see Clint in here! His writing is superb.
Absolutely agree.
Clint's a fantastic writer and a fantastic human.
Here my score.
SetA: 1a 2p (KO)
SetB: 1p 2a (OK)
SetC: 1a 2p (OK)
SetD: 1p 2a (OK)
I feel a bit lucky, as I don't read hundred of western screenplays.
Nicely done!
This first group was very tough for me to figure out, as someone who teaches a screenwriting workshop I have to disagree with the panel as both had several amateur vibes to me. What I enjoy about this and the subjectiveness or readers is you guys tend to focus more on descriptors and action lines, where as, I see things in the formatting i.e. FADE IN: or sluglines that have - Morning, even TITLE OVER vs. SUPER just reads amateur to me. Now, that's not to imply the writing's not good as I've read 100s of amateurs scripts that were VERY well written with the exception of formatting. Fun channel, love to play along from home!
It open a notepad to note my guess, and watch now. 🙂
I like this format!
Awesome. Thanks for checking it out!
Fun episode!
Thanks, Kim!
Joi de vive is French, not British. Joy of life. Not sure it needs a nationality.
Im surprised how many pro scripts are giving camera direction when so much advice tells new writers not to.
Also it would be interested to ask what would it take for a specific average amateur page one to be mistaken for a pro. Of course not one that people guess as pro already. Maybe next time pick a weak pro and a weak joe comparison.
Generally, that advice is coming from one of two places. Often, it’s because it’s not uncommon for newer writers to use those camera directions poorly, bogging down the read as opposed to making it more cinematic. But also, there are definitely a lot of people who don’t really know what they’re talking about, who regurgitate advice in an effort to seem like experts, without really knowing the reason for that advice in the first place.
At the end of the day, if you need to include a shot in order to help the reader see the movie better, you should include it. Otherwise, you can typically do without.
Please split in chapters.
Thank you for the reminder! Meant to add them but totally forgot. They're there now, as well as for the most recent episode.
B1 - why bother with the postman's dialogue at all. Just have the kid running out of the post office and heading to the sherrif's office. Seems like a waste of space.