How the Sony PlayStation Net Yaroze DevKit brought Indie Game Development to Consoles | MVG

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  • The Story of the Sony PlayStation Net Yaroze - The Consumer grade Development Kit that was sold in 1997 and how it brought Indie development to video games for an affordable price.
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    Credits:
    ► Net Yaroze Europe Archive - netyaroze-europe.com/
    ► Ben James Developer of Psychon - / @benjames-games6390
    ► Tron/Light Cycle Arena Game - archive.org/details/tron_2020...
    ► Kim Justice Net Yaroze Video - • Net Yaroze: The PS1 C...
    ► Commercial Breaks BBC Documentary - • "Commercial Breaks" Do...
    ► An Introduction to “Yaroze a Day” - www.badgamehalloffame.com/blo...
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  • @ModernVintageGamer
    @ModernVintageGamer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +550

    Wanted to give a huge thanks to Ben James, John Biank, Robert Dale Smith and the rest of you who reached out and told me your Net Yaroze Story. If you worked on the Net Yaroze, let me know in the comments or send me an email. Id love to hear your story. Enjoy the video !

    • @stevenjames7082
      @stevenjames7082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I remember getting demo disks in playstation magazine's which would contain net yaroze games and it used to blow my mind that random guys had made these games and I always wanted the console myself (to be honest I think I still do )

    • @bradlywalsh5786
      @bradlywalsh5786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This video is sooo siiick!👍

    • @TechniqueSan
      @TechniqueSan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've got a complete Yaroze set a few years ago, but sadly I'm no developer, more of a historian/collector. Have beaten quite a few games on it, though. :D

    • @vasili1207
      @vasili1207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you of explaining the local american game crash , so sick of nintendo fan boys trying to proclaim the nes the Digital JESUS... Nobody wanted a nes in the uk we had Amiga

    • @flynnz
      @flynnz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Glad I could help, even if it was just a little :). Also worth noting that my roommate Todd Broadwater, who also worked on Light Cycle Arena, did end up in the game industry working for Bethesda (Oblivion, Fallout3) and now Firaxis (Xcom)

  • @JimPTheOne
    @JimPTheOne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    Yes! I remember buying the official PlayStation magazine and sometimes had full games built from yaroze in their monthly demo disc.

    • @beastymusictm1452
      @beastymusictm1452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Jim P Ah the good'ol demo disk, almost as good as the old cheat books!

    • @salvadorkda5758
      @salvadorkda5758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Some of those games where really impresive !
      Also , In my country the yaroze was like the holy grail .... a console for make games ...

    • @stevenjames7082
      @stevenjames7082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly the same here , man I wish I kept all those demo disks

    • @fli2011
      @fli2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The best of net yaroze demo disc, that was a great demo.

    • @an3582
      @an3582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Say WHAT? How did I miss these?

  • @stormwatcheagle5448
    @stormwatcheagle5448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1328

    Sony: Creates affordable SDK for hobbyists to break into console game development
    Also Sony: Takes Linux support off of PS3 due to fear of hobbyists breaking into console

    • @killerratchet1973
      @killerratchet1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +289

      Then sony had to pay a lawsuit as a result of removing said support, and the PS3 was later hacked in the end anyway. Karma's a bitch

    • @mythos5202
      @mythos5202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      I figure their stance against hobbyists is also what killed off the Vita so damn quickly.

    • @thegroove69
      @thegroove69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      Sony made the Net Yaroze just for Promation. They never suported coders and hobbyists. Thats why it has no access to the CD Drive. No way to publish your own Games? The only way was through Sony themselfes so they can make Money out of your work. Sony is and always was the biggest enemy to all coders and hackers on this planet. I will never forget the killing of Bleem! and on the other hand using ReARMed on the PS Classic...

    • @johnsimon8457
      @johnsimon8457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      It sucked anyway. They denied access to the cell processor and included no drivers for the RSX gpu, so yellow dog Linux just ran on the pretty weak sauce Power PC CPU and it’s vast 256 MB of ram.
      Yaroze, on the other hand, only had the limitation that your game had to fit in ram.

    • @ICEMANZIDANE
      @ICEMANZIDANE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thats bs, Sony didnt kill Linux Support cause of „hobbyists“, they killed it cause they were sure it would open doors for jailbreaking and essentially play illegal games....

  • @Lee.Moriya
    @Lee.Moriya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Me and my brother must have had several dozen PS1 demo discs from magazines in the UK and some of the Net Yaroze games were our most played. Hours of entertainment crammed into these small games for the price of a magazine meant we played a lot of them. The demo discs were always a lot easier to justify to our parents than a full game was, so shoutout for to these devs, big part of my childhood right here.

    • @mansionoflostspiritsrecords
      @mansionoflostspiritsrecords 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same with me and my brother, we had some weekends where we would play hours of those Net Yaroze demos, I remember clearly one doom style horror game and kinda asteroids style minimalistic dogfight game

    • @chiefhydropolis
      @chiefhydropolis หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mansionoflostspiritsrecordsthe doom horror one was called clone

  • @catbutler5282
    @catbutler5282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    That brings back memories. I had a Skywalker serial cable and a modded PlayStation so I could do my coursework at home instead of the computing labs. I'm pretty sure we were already working with OpenGL so having to deal with fixed point arithmetic for 3D transformations was a real eye opener.

    • @hotmailcompany52
      @hotmailcompany52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I'm so jealous. There was never any programming stuff at my school :/

    • @connor43057
      @connor43057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Haha crazy to think that floats were once expensive

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@hotmailcompany52 saaame. Even the most advanced "ICT"/"IT" courses just had you using Dreamweaver and Photoshop instead of Excel and PowerPoint in mine. It always felt bordering on a design course instead of a computing course. Guess I can thank New Labour for their "work skills focus" leading us all to get tutorialled on office software instead of how these computers actually work. The most advanced course I talked about was obviously geared toward producing web designers (compared to the standard office drone competency suite), rather than eliding any deeper understanding.

    • @catbutler5282
      @catbutler5282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@connor43057 you can really see the difference in the stability of the N64's graphics from having floating point support and depth values, which released just a year or so later.
      I did go back to the PS1 and implemented limited support for floating point in a couple of PS1 emulators (specifically for geometry transformation) to try and get a similar improvement.

  • @mattdhargett
    @mattdhargett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I love you highlighting developers by name, and saying where they are now. This kind of investigation made my bump my Patreon subscription :) I’d love to see interviews/stories from the emulation/modding scene, even if the video/audio is obscured for privacy.

  • @noiJadisCailleach
    @noiJadisCailleach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is my 1st time hearing and knowing about Net Yaroze...
    Or even the fact that there was a "bedroom coder" kind of movement back in the 80s? Incredible. Just incredible!
    Damn, if only we had money to buy stuff like this at the time... I could've started breaking in making games sooner.
    In any case, this is really incredible!

    • @ironhell813
      @ironhell813 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bedroom coders was how the game industry started… in the 80s there was books on programming and magazines with programs and everything…
      You mean yaroze was in the 90s and was only for japanese to maintain the Japanese dominance in the games industry to protect japans economy during the so called “lost decade”
      I used to glorify japan like the rest, when I went there and found out how biased and racists they were, kinda explains every move they made over the last 30 years…

  • @StarkRG
    @StarkRG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    17:04 "Sony has never been afraid to experiment with their hardware and open it up to the hobbyist bedroom coder." Well, they weren't until they removed "Other OS" from the PS3.

    • @iProgramInCpp
      @iProgramInCpp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Correct. The PS2 was also able to run Linux if I recall correctly

    • @cheeseisgud7311
      @cheeseisgud7311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iProgramInCpp I remember that too, there was a Linux disc

    • @lifespanofafry1534
      @lifespanofafry1534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My anus smells. It has its own olfactory glands.

  • @MrMario2011
    @MrMario2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Best showcase of Net Yaroze games I've seen.

    • @bounceysteve
      @bounceysteve 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Zero comments, and 30 likes on mrmario?

    • @akpokemon
      @akpokemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      he really said "period"

  • @milkdribbly
    @milkdribbly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My older brother bought this when it came out and I remember tinkering with it. I didn't get very far (I was still a kid at the time) but remember compiling simple code with it. I am a programmer by profession today so I guess it helped push me along towards my career. I still have it and the SDK package on display in my house. Beautiful piece of hardware.

  • @KSwift
    @KSwift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that david johnston guy who made timeslip definitely got inspiration from jazz jackrabbit :D my favourite series as a child.

  • @jamesstewart7784
    @jamesstewart7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    I've actually been thinking about Net Yaroze lately with the official release of Dreams on the PS4. It feels like creation tools has always gone hand in hand with Sony Playstation (minus the PS2 but that had Linux support) - Net Yaroze, Little Big Planet, Dreams. It feels like sony has always wanted to give people a chance to create something Digitially depending on knowledge and patience.

    • @mumboking
      @mumboking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The PS2 had Yabasic.

    • @jamesstewart7784
      @jamesstewart7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mumboking ah I didn't know that.

    • @faustianblur1798
      @faustianblur1798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Media Molecule who made Little Big Planet and Dreams are based in the UK. So it seems to always be the Brits pushing for it too.

    • @Beardwhip
      @Beardwhip 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faustianblur1798 meanwhile in America...

    • @WraxTV
      @WraxTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always associated the RPG Maker and Fighter Maker games with PlayStation as well. I know they're on other systems now, but in the States they were the first time I saw the idea of "make your own game" outside of PC.

  • @TomBudin
    @TomBudin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    never thought i'd hear net yaroze said so many times in 20 mins

    • @madgigahz
      @madgigahz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take a shot every time he says Net Yaroze

    • @averageborincano9691
      @averageborincano9691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madgigahz If you wanted to commit suicide, you might as well go full Kurt Cobain.

  • @mavhunter8753
    @mavhunter8753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Most of them weren't very good, but there some impressive standouts!"; Sounds like modern indie-games to me!

  • @TonyBMan
    @TonyBMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:20....when I heard that ancient PlayStation boot SFX, I actually rewound it just to hear that delicious ear candy again.
    Man that is a fucking legendary console.

  • @SwordsmanOrion
    @SwordsmanOrion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I really wanted one of these when I was in high school... but it was a good thing that it was so expensive and so hard to get one for a casual player. Because this would have been way way beyond my abilities to handle. I would not have been able to do anything with this, I didn't understand what it really took to create a game back then. It would have been wasted money for me.

  • @Epic_C
    @Epic_C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I wish I would of had something like this as a kid to tinker around with. Even if I probably wouldn't have made a game worth while, just having it to learn some of the basics of programming would have been very interesting.

  • @KapitanWasTaken
    @KapitanWasTaken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    11:47 "...but in late 1987..."
    Are you sure about that?

    • @alexdhall
      @alexdhall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think he meant late *1997*...

    • @mstum-so
      @mstum-so 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      VERY late 1987

    • @sebastianelytron8450
      @sebastianelytron8450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@alexdhall People like you are literally the dumbest and most obnoxious people on the planet.

    • @nuk1964
      @nuk1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      After "wai too kei" everkthing changed. Everk since that time when I press "wai" on the kekboard, I end up with a "kei". Sort by date didn't quite work ankmore, and mank data records with date were misplaced -- especiallk with dates straddling the centurk transition. I dread when that dak in 2038 comes and I find mkself in 1901!

    • @MikeDest
      @MikeDest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      George Michael's Faith was the #1 song in late 1987.

  • @DJHeero69
    @DJHeero69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I always had a huge fascination with the Net Yaroze when I heard about it from one of my Playstation Underground discs... unfortunately I was only a kid when it came out and we didnt exactly have 750 dollars to spend on it so all I could do was admire it and play the demos they displayed... but I loved the games that were made and the stories behind Net Yaroze and it was always in the back of my mind since.

  • @MrRaivokasMagma
    @MrRaivokasMagma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I remember playing demo discs, that came with Finnish version of PlayStation magazines. I always wondered what were those games, that felt different from the rest. Nice to know they were indies. Also, didn't know Devil Dice was originally Net Yaroze game! I bet our demo disc had retail version for sure, but that has stuck in my mind for years.

  • @Sinn0100
    @Sinn0100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have heard of this machine before and when the Playstation hit...I was instantaneously hooked. There was a time in my life when I could not imagine not having a PSX in it. It was one of the first consoles I purchased with my own money (I bought a Sega Saturn the same day as my PSX). I was 16 years old with a decently paying job and my own muscle car (what a time in my life!). I subscribed to every game mag I could get my hands on but I never saw this for sale (I live in the States).
    I would have purchased this machine without question had I been given the opportunity. Even though we in the States did not get into the microcomputer craze we had something just as big hit in 1993...and its name was Doom. I cut my teeth in 1994 making levels for Doom on my cloned 486DX2. When I got my hands on Doom 2 it was it changed everything. I wanted so badly to break into the gaming industry when I was younger but it was not to be. Today I am a collector of all things gaming and if I ever see obe of these out on the wild...I will snag it.

  • @amshermansen
    @amshermansen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    10:30 - Oh my god! I remember Blitter Boy! It was on one of the demo discs, along with a bunch of other games.
    12:30 - Terra too! Oh my gosh. So much nostalgia.

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    2mb is rough but people still pulled off some amazing games. I particularly remember ‘adventure game’. I might have the name wrong but it was a really funny parody of RPGs, and fully 3D.

    • @surject
      @surject 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ridge Racer was around that size...

    • @JoeStuffz
      @JoeStuffz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2MB for an SNES-like game is a decent amount. The biggest issue would be music. I have no idea if the PlayStation or the SDK had its own synth

    • @pootisbear
      @pootisbear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@surject What's your point exactly? OG Ridge Racer is a good game but it really doesn't have a lot of meaty content, it's just a simple arcade racer with a few selectable cars and mirror options for the track difficulties. It's a small scope game so naturally it would be of a small size...I'm pretty sure the OP is lamenting the RAM and CD streaming limitation stopping larger scope games.

    • @surject
      @surject 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoeStuffz Correct. In case of Ridge Racer the CD was XA with audio tracks.

    • @surject
      @surject 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pootisbear Well RR was fucking amazing and when I found out how small the game data was I was pretty stunned. Todays race games are 20'000x bigger, even back then games like this were way bigger, even Daytona was 15MB ..and that was a 'simple arcade racer' as well.

  • @frognik79
    @frognik79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Here in Australia and other PAL regions the ps2 came with a disk that contained YABasic which I believe was to get around import taxes by classing the ps2 as a computer.
    It was actually pretty terrible and slow but still making and sharing rudimentary games that ran on the ps2 was fun.
    There was no support for external files so images had to be converted to data statements in the code but from memory it did have pretty fast (Gouraud?) shaded polygon support.
    I also remember there was an emulated version of the yabasic elf with a few extra features to speed up coding and directly convert images to data statements etc.

    • @at-cj2iy
      @at-cj2iy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was called YAbastard in Scotland

    • @thatcarguy6190
      @thatcarguy6190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember that Uk 👍🏻

    • @thatcarguy6190
      @thatcarguy6190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@at-cj2iy Lol

  • @fundi_mike
    @fundi_mike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I bought a NetYaroze from Sony back in the late 90's. Back then I was making (euro)demos on the Amiga and the intention was to make demo's on the Yaroze to be used in wild-competetions at demo-partys. However I got distracted with all sorts of other things and never really got very far with that project (also at the time I found C annoying since I was used to m68k assembler). At one point I was interviewed for a PS developer position but did not get the job since I did not really have any proper demos up and running on Yaroze - if I had I would proberbly have had a career in game development.
    Guess my NetYaroze is for sale now, at the current prices I might almost recoup my original investment lol - "investment by bying hardware" thats new ;-)

  • @reagandow850
    @reagandow850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Wow! This is one of your all time best episodes. Very interesting and I’d really like to see that Vita episode or any other episode you can design on this type of stuff. Thanks MVG.

  • @GameTechRefuge
    @GameTechRefuge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Abertay Uni still had a Net Yaroze, when I was there a back in 2015. Was cool to see. One of the things I loved about Dundee was having access to current and old dev hardware.

  • @MightyZarquon
    @MightyZarquon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting, and well presented, as always! Thanks for this. That darker coloured Net Yaroze console looks fantastic. I’ll be looking forward to subsequent episodes. Keep up the great work!

  • @NinjaPepper
    @NinjaPepper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good video, fun walk down memory lane! The Yaroze was always so fascinating to me back in the day and I continue to adore the look of the console itself. I still have a vivid memory of booting up Terra Incognita for the first time, but I'd totally forgotten about Total Soccer until it appeared in this video and then it instantly came rushing back. That was a genuinely good Sensible Soccer clone and I think it's still quite impressive!

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    14:54 - There was an official USA Playstation Magazine. I had a subscription for years and in fact I still have some of the discs. I was an underground member too so I did play some of the Net Yaroze demos. But I think you are right in that they weren't on the official mag disc.

    • @juanp2k3
      @juanp2k3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to say the same, I wasn't a subscriber but I remember the magazine being on offer

  • @I86282
    @I86282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:20. Nice.
    Both the sound and video stream right into my soul.!
    I have such an extremely positive association with that bit of audio video.
    It brings a tear to my eye.
    So so good. Thank you for that.!
    Excellent video 👍

  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Blitter Boy! Those crying babies caused so much teenage anxiety. Dude this video was awesome!

  • @slightlytwistedagain
    @slightlytwistedagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As someone who was part of the bedroom programming era this was a joy to watch, brings back good memories of coding simple games on my ZX Spectrum.

    • @slightlytwistedagain
      @slightlytwistedagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @referral madness No, I gave that up a long time ago, my programming days were just when I had my ZX Spectrum, so around 1990 would have been the last time I did.

    • @slightlytwistedagain
      @slightlytwistedagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @referral madness I just moved on to other things that interested me.

  • @frankjohnstone6102
    @frankjohnstone6102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still got all my official magazines and demo discs with the yaroze games on. Terra incognita, psychon, haunted maze................Those were the days, lad.

  • @Postposterous
    @Postposterous 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You might have the ONLY content on ALL of TH-cam that I look forward to watching. I was SO immersed in console modding scene in the late 90's and early 00's. Watching your stuff takes me back. Also makes me feel I'm connected to a community that experienced the same things I did. You can never stop making videos. Thank you for all you did within the scene back in the day.

  • @rydeentokio
    @rydeentokio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before Net Yaroze, there was Family BASIC for Famicon (NES). It was released by HUDSON, and many future game developers had learned how to program games with it.

  • @APOL1000
    @APOL1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:20 Goosebumps.

    • @leecroft7311
      @leecroft7311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bader almajed I was an N64 kid back then so I don’t have the same type of nostalgia but boy, the boot up theme for the PS1 is beautiful. My nostalgia for PlayStation began with the PS2. The PS2 also has a wonderful boot up.

  • @Lupni3rd
    @Lupni3rd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I fianlly snagged myself a complete Net Yaroze a little while back. Not with it's original box but all it's original software. I don't code like but always wanted to learn to have a go. I found a website with a copy of the FULL developer SDK's some time back as well. So bouns.

    • @joeyvdm1
      @joeyvdm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Lupni3rd. That's awesome bud. I have been trying to get my hands on a Net Yaroze DevKit for quite a while now, but the cheapest I can get one for in my country is GBP 499.95. Obviously won't give up that easy, the search continues...

    • @Lupni3rd
      @Lupni3rd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joeyvdm1 Yeha all told I snagged it for about £300 at the time. I bought a replacement lens unit for it though as it's original was a bit off. I 've kept the original though.

    • @joeyvdm1
      @joeyvdm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Lupni3rd Man, that is a steal. An easy lens replacement (I'd keep the original lens too) and you've got a beauty for the collection. It's gonna be fun if you do decide to cut your teeth coding on her. Got me tingling, mine will come...

    • @Lupni3rd
      @Lupni3rd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joeyvdm1 One day my dude if you're willing to play the waiting game :) Yeah man I've got myself a Compaq Presario 2200 series computer running DOS 6.22 so a super age appropriate PC to play aruond with it.

    • @deepspace6nine
      @deepspace6nine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Lupni3rd The waiting game was how I was also able to get my NA yaroze, which also seems to be more uncommon (probably because of the lack of interest in the US mentioned for it but idk). I was on the cusp myself of getting an old PC to do Win95/DOS to try everything out, but ended up finding that I could make it work on any modern linux system and luckily ended up saving myself some desk space.

  • @WikiPeoples
    @WikiPeoples 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am SO happy I found this channel. Seriously, such good content that's right up my interests.

  • @dj68k
    @dj68k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:19 Oh man, I got crazy great shivers hearing that again. Thank you for putting that in the video in its full form.

  • @jme1mm
    @jme1mm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its really awesome to see "Blitter Boy" being featured in this video. I remember playing it on one of my brothers demo discs.

  • @bubbathemaster
    @bubbathemaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My all time favourite is Gravitation and I am a bit sad you didn't mention it. It was insanely fun with 2 players on a split screen!

  • @J0r
    @J0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top notch video as usual. Thank you for taking the time to keep the quality up!

  • @FoxMonkey-xw5yf
    @FoxMonkey-xw5yf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the Net Yaroze games that came with the PS-UK magazine demo discs. I don't have the discs anymore :( but seeing the images on the vid got me really nostalgic.

  • @TombstoneChris
    @TombstoneChris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:19 this brings back so many good memories. I have replayed it over and over call me weird but it sounds so beautiful.

    • @primtones
      @primtones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also kind of eerie?

  • @over00lordunknown12
    @over00lordunknown12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The original PlayStation’s boot screen still gives me chills. :)

  • @zagrebzebra
    @zagrebzebra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to have, or actually still have, demo discs containing just about every Yaroze game featured in this video. I had no idea about the background story on these games until I saw this video. Actually, a good amount of those games were quite playable and entertaining for a while.

  • @nuvitcoskun4324
    @nuvitcoskun4324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The term Peek&Poke takes me back to commodore 64 magazine days...

  • @orizach01
    @orizach01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Dreams is the modern equivalent of the Net Yaroze

    • @grumpyguy112
      @grumpyguy112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If something like tbis existed the game industry would have a heart attack because rhey cant control content and monetise it.

    • @Sim2322
      @Sim2322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bro, it' never been easier to export to consoles than today, and was never more encouraged either. You're totally wrong, here

    • @jackmcgwire2078
      @jackmcgwire2078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ori zach I was thinking the same thing

  • @agntdrake
    @agntdrake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still have mine! I need to root through the garage and see if I can find the access key. It was pretty fun to tinker around with, but I mostly only ever used mine to make simple demos. It was pretty cool though. There was also an option to buy a Metrowerks Codewarrior along with it to get a proper IDE.

  • @jimg2345
    @jimg2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love your content. Always a highlight when I get the notification!

  • @exclarion
    @exclarion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW... brings back memories. Must have been the only 14 year old to own one back then... i remember jumping into the forums with tons of other hobbyist. Wish I would have kept going but lacked the discipline back then... its GAME TIME! just started my own indie studio recently! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • @supersat
    @supersat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apparently Sega was considering something similar for the Dreamcast. I remember some VP (I think?) of Sega of America reaching out to active people on the dcdev mailing list to do some market validation research. They asked us to keep it quiet at the time. Given the advanced state of homebrew libraries and tools and the soon-to-be death of the Dreamcast, the project never went anywhere AFAIK.

  • @LiEnby
    @LiEnby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "This continued on the ps2 and 3, and even on the PSVita.. which we will cover in another episode"
    PSM Covered by MVG Confirmed!!!

  • @PastoKage
    @PastoKage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video! Is an interesting topic, I writed an article about it some years ago.
    Terra Incognita is one of my Favourite title in the PSX Library btw.
    Oh and I'm glad that you explained that here in Europe, we never had a real "crash". Looks to me that nowdays, most ppl think it was a worldwide thing.

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the content I love and come back for more of. Well done!

  • @ProjectGeek1
    @ProjectGeek1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a simple man. I see Dev-Kits, I watch.

  • @Pizzuiful
    @Pizzuiful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    6:15 : «the main difference is the serial connection port for debugging».
    No, the serial port is the same as the retail version. In fact, the console is almost the same on the outside as the SCPH 1000 version (minus S-video port).

    • @TechnologistAtWork
      @TechnologistAtWork 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Retail version doesn't have a serial port. Are you high?

    • @Pizzuiful
      @Pizzuiful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TechnologistAtWork Of course, it has. How would multiplayer works, then? Just look at any back of any SCPH1000/1001.
      In fact, every Playstation model has serial port.
      I think you're the one who smoked...

    • @v4lgrind
      @v4lgrind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TechnologistAtWork They did initially. Serial port was included with SCPH{1000-9003} and removed with SCPH-100 (PS one)

    • @snoozbuster
      @snoozbuster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just watched a video the other day of a game boy player that connected to the serial port of a ps1 and it went over this as well, the port was removed later

    • @TechnologistAtWork
      @TechnologistAtWork 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@v4lgrind do you have a link to that? Because all I can find is just a cable meant to connect 2 consoles together for few multiplayer games.

  • @groovetonight1848
    @groovetonight1848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers for bringing attention to the Net Yaroze and telling it’s story.This was an excellent video and I learned a lot. Thanks!!

  • @photonarbiter
    @photonarbiter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping you'd be able to cover this one day. Great stuff!

  • @RDJ134
    @RDJ134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never knew about this hardware, freaking awesome that this was possible :)
    Seeing the Acces Card i wonder why there are not any Gecko/FMCB cards for the PSX.

  • @tangentingtangerines5709
    @tangentingtangerines5709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    1:55 You could've called this game Bird vs Camel and no one would have argued with you

  • @GeneFJacket
    @GeneFJacket 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most beautiful console ever made. That matte black system with the multi-colored PS logo is just drop dead gorgeous. I remember seeing one of them in either EGM or PSM way back in the day, and thinking "I have to have one of those". I'm no programmer and never did get one, but every few years I scour ebay to see what they're going for. One day...one day...

    • @xman777b
      @xman777b 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your response is my fave on this topic. As a USA gamer, this was/is exactly my sentiment.

  • @TheUFCVeteran
    @TheUFCVeteran 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! Always been interested in the Net Yaroze, found it really interesting - great to learn a lot more! You always do a fantastic job with your videos, very well put together and a great watch.

  • @Rctive
    @Rctive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    aw hell yeah, this thing

  • @Tigrou7777
    @Tigrou7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:11 I had a regular PS1 back in the days (still have it at my parent's home) and it has a debug port. It is an early model though (probably from 95-96 era). I know later ones had that port removed, the same for the RCA jacks.

    • @MacCanma
      @MacCanma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tigrou7777 me too man.

  • @jaspal99
    @jaspal99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man I remember playing a demo disc with Terra Incognita. For some reason my 10 year old brain felt so much sorrow for the guy at 17:07 the way he turned his head to the captain made me feel a deep sadness within him. Crazy how impactful that was on me even though I now see it's just a model turning it's head.

  • @newoldstock_
    @newoldstock_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted one of these so much back in the day. Thanks for the video!

  • @T1C
    @T1C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That comic sans though

  • @pazzoeo
    @pazzoeo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally... After so many years, I finally found out how *that* game was called...
    Blitter Boy...
    Thank you MVG

  • @jeremybowers3181
    @jeremybowers3181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's amazing!! I had NO Idea this was once available to the public. Great video man.

  • @moe4b
    @moe4b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing stuff, would have never knew about this device without your coverage, thank you MVG

  • @Elastane
    @Elastane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I recall playing a bunch of demos from this on a demo disc, only one I can recall was "terra Incognita", was ok :D

    • @Elastane
      @Elastane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      12:35 :D

  • @madfinntech
    @madfinntech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I like the fact you covered this. Doesn't help prices of these though,

    • @ModernVintageGamer
      @ModernVintageGamer  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lol the prices have been really high before my vid dropped

    • @JackBandicootsBunker
      @JackBandicootsBunker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not that you can't use a retail PS1 and a Serial Cable to replicate a development environment, though...

    • @JackBandicootsBunker
      @JackBandicootsBunker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      M D They can and will, though, just for the sake of collecting...

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s going to sell just because ooh black PS1.

  • @SoundSelector
    @SoundSelector 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Psychon was AMAZING!
    Lovely vid MVG! A great overview and a great trip down the Nostalgia lane...

  • @herrice3227
    @herrice3227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used to love playing these games on the old demo discs as a kid. I found them all fascinating for reasons I'm only just realising through this video.
    Terra Incognita and Devil Dice were my favourites

  • @Fendera1
    @Fendera1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2:20 You had to do it didn't you :)

    • @kurtownsj00
      @kurtownsj00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The glorious quality!

    • @stiannobelisto573
      @stiannobelisto573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's almost a religious experience

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    lovely content

    • @elva9893
      @elva9893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smoke on the water

  • @excess_wrx
    @excess_wrx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel and videos!! I never knew things like this dev kit even existed

  • @simsluver
    @simsluver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating stuff!! Your tutorial videos have really impressed me so much!

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I nearly bought one of these back in the day, went as far as getting all the paperwork from Sony, from what I remember they required you to sign a contract and would send you a large envelope with all the paperwork. In the end I decided against it, as it was quite expensive, but I can imagine it would've been fun to write little games for the PSX and probably makes for a nice collectors item today.

  • @pastiesandagstring
    @pastiesandagstring 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s sad the way the industry has changed. Seems like they used to pretty much support people developing for and experimenting with their consoles. Now they immediately try to shut anything down that wasn’t made by them or some other corporate monster. I doubt we’ll ever see any type of development kit for any console ever again. Hopefully something changes otherwise they might be looking at another crash. I see it already in our current gen of consoles. We’ve got some great consoles but the library of games for them is pretty limited.

    • @artu165
      @artu165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhhh Sony and Nintendo do that. But you can transform any Xbox One into a development kit and send code from your PC to the Xbox... So it's definitely still a thing today

  • @xs1l3n7x
    @xs1l3n7x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always excited when you get a video out. Keep 'em coming.
    Saludos desde Costa Rica

  • @joshbessler6991
    @joshbessler6991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. I was never aware of the bedroom coding scene. Appreciate the history lessons, MVG! Keep 'em coming.

  • @HeadsetHistorian
    @HeadsetHistorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please someone tell me: What's the game at 8:57??
    I remember playing that game when I was super young and it left a really lasting impression on me (I think because it scared me). I wasn't even sure if it was real or if I had just imagined it!! Please let me know if you know the name. Thanks!!!

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like a Doom clone. You might also be thinking of Quake or Wolfenstein.

    • @shockwave952
      @shockwave952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The game is called CLONE
      th-cam.com/video/pAtwKex8U3M/w-d-xo.html

    • @enragedgecko
      @enragedgecko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably king's field? by FromSoftware aka Dark souls dev

    • @gtheskater
      @gtheskater 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clone II

    • @HeadsetHistorian
      @HeadsetHistorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gtheskater Thanks, that's it!

  • @emotionz3
    @emotionz3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s amazing Sony went from this to the PS2 HDD\Network adapter to the official Linux distro on PS2 and PS3, only to pull the shit they did early on in the PS3’s life removing support for Linux (even though people PAID for kits) they suing those who jail broke the consoles to restore functionality Sony removed!

    • @SHUJINCELL
      @SHUJINCELL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To a system that cant even play audio cds. Crazy.

  • @jeimindeso928
    @jeimindeso928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn.. this was so nostalgic to watch. I loved playing these games. I love your videos man.

  • @Crinjworthy
    @Crinjworthy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always love learning more about yaroze as a ps1 demo disc collector, thanks mvg~

  • @lost4468yt
    @lost4468yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "and making games was fun" - it's also super fun now. It's you that has changed.

  • @mandc20022
    @mandc20022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 11:48 you said 1987 I think you meant 1997

  • @olympian3
    @olympian3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it looks so PRETTY plus the memory card disc and controller omggggggg nicest looking console I've ever seen.

  • @sharpenednoodles
    @sharpenednoodles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fascinating episode. Never even heard of the Net Yaroze before!

  • @DgkYogi
    @DgkYogi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    So basically Dreams PS4 brought this “bedroom coding” stuff back.

    • @dodgykebaab
      @dodgykebaab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dream is definitely the modern day PlayStation Net Yahoz

  • @KSSilenceAU
    @KSSilenceAU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    yeehaw, nothing like a video released 25 seconds ago,

  • @nflynn
    @nflynn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ocean software, man these guys made the best games, rember the noise of the 128k Spectrum now, thanks for the memories :)

  • @SkvalaGaming
    @SkvalaGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always, detailed and interesting

  • @bigcade554
    @bigcade554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to look more into the Net Yaroze scene. I remember playing some of the games included in demo discs but hardly remember the specifics. Seeing Blitter Boy brought back a vivid memory, so that's one title I can now put a name to.

  • @Alorso_
    @Alorso_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard about net yaroze and knew it was a dev kit, but didn't know the full story behind it. Had also heard of Devil Dice before, but had no idea it was a net yaroze game, that's pretty cool.
    Awesome content as always MVG

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. I worked in City Software in Liverpool between 1982 and 1988, so I knew quite a few of the developers, artists and musicians that worked in the game industry at the time.

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing history and insight video MVG!!! Love it!