I had a Dodge Intrepid in high school. I remember watching Voyager on the UPN channel when it came out. My intrepid was white so I put the USS Voyager NCC 74656 and a starfleet insignia on the hood.
I love how the Intrepid's purpose clashes with Voyager's first mission to hunt Maquis in the badlands. They needed a coastal coastal gunboat so they sent an America's Cup yacht.
I didn't know what an America's Cup yacht was but I looked it up and you're pretty much spot on! Voyager is basically a racing yacht with planetarium strapped to it.
And still had formidable and decent weapons and shields the class I fill was a wolf in sheep's clothing on paper a scientific research vessel and yes it could do that but all so a first strike get in get out vessel and a group of them I think could do a fairly decent job of hitting an enemy hard Voyager proves it time and time again let alone actually getting home lol in short I believe the class to be a ship of war or at least a destroyer class its a fine class for sure 👍
Except they didn't? It's impossible to ignore that all of the science equipment, speed, extended loiter abilities, and sheer firepower make it an *excellent* deep penetration surveillance vessel. It's clearly part of the Akira/Sovereign school of a Starfleet that does all the old Starfleet things, but is leaner, meaner, and more combat-capable than the Nebulas its intended to replace.
In a way, it's the closest thing we get to a WW1-style battlecruiser; gunned enough to do real damage to anything smaller, fast enough to do reconnaissance and run away from anything too big for it, preferably fighting a running battle back to safety.
Yeah, I have always been fond of this class. Though for such a "speedy" little ship those nacelles are awfully small... Now maybe with some Sovereign style nacelles and they were underslung like the original concept. That would be wicked!
@@rossallan3585I believe they did complain a time or two about not having enough crew anymore. Some did die and there was extra work for many people because of it.
I love the Intrepid class design, it just looks very balanced and purposeful. The teaspoon shaped primary hull, and blending of primary and secondary hulls probably inspire the Enterprise-E design. Interesting to learn the degree to which it was designed around certain purposes for the plot of the series, as this probably helped keep the design grounded and realistic looking.
I wonder how much of it would boil down to "And then Janeway broke the Temporal directive, AGAIN!" (She often had good reasons, but good god Voyager and time travel...)
I definitely like this high end, compact design. Although it really seems there’s nowhere to go on that ship besides the mess hall and holodecks! But I guess that’s why Tom and B’Elanna had to sneak off to Jeffries Tubes, while the Galaxy-class has dozens of small and large stargazing and canoodling lounges. One tiny nitpick, there was dialogue indicating the tricobalt warheads aren’t standard loadout. I also reckon Section 31 makes heavy use of this class, given the sensors and high speed. (Plus of course, that being the holodeck we’re shown when Bashir is abducted.) Being a favoured admiralty ship is good cover for that too.
I wouldn't put it past Section 31 to create a highly modified version of an Intrepid-class cruiser. It's a practical and compact design packed with one of the best computer systems and sensors Starfleet designed. I bet Section 31 improved everything that made this class great and added more advanced tech like greater automation and a cloaking device (they are, after all, an intelligence organization on top of being a black ops department).
The only ship that can get a cold indeed XD I just love the Doctors reaction to the whole situation, just another patient for the bio-bed. "Dont you worry my little friend!" and Belanna is looking at him like hes lost his mind
5:30 So for perspective, an Intrepid class is similar dimensionally to a Ford class aircraft carrier. Intrepid is longer and wider than USS Ford @ 337m x 78m flight deck, but more squat than 76m. But 7x the mass and 5 percent of the crew. This is relevant to me having served 4 years on a Nimitz class.
IIRC many of the fictional materials used in Star Trek are extremely dense so that could account for the mass, but I feel like even with extensive automation the tiny crew size is a stretch. I'm pretty sure Starfleet at this time doesn't make significant use of nanotech, so what's doing all the maintenance?
Absolutely love the Intrepid class! I've named the "hero" ship in my own sci-fi novel the Intrepid in its honour. It's also an exploration vessel, in its case, it's primary mission is to seek out the naturally-occurring wormholes that are the main method of getting from Point A to Point B in a space opera that *follows* relativity. Thank you, Star Trek, for the inspiration!
This is my favourite ship design in all of ST, followed VERY closely by the NX-01 Enterprise. It has this little dog mentality, if you want a fight we'll being it, that I just love
Honestly probably my single favorite design concept to come out of StarTrek, its a dedicated Science Vessel but is armed like a Galaxy class but around 1/3 the total size. The Luxury liner in space that was the Galaxy class. I also love they took the best design queues from Voyager and brought it forward with the the next generation of StarFleet vessels. The warp pylons on the Intrepid always looked a bit awkward and tacked on rather than an intention design feature, which I suppose lore wise actually makes sense. Anyhow looking forward to a review of the many upgrades Voyager got during its trip home as a piece of future content!
I remember with Voyager that the holodecks apparently ran on a different power source than the rest of the ship, and the power sources were not compatible somehow. Bizarre writing choices aside, I think it would be interesting to see some kind of cruise-space-ship where each cabin is a small holodeck. You could essentially have an entire mansion, castle, top-floor 1980's penthouse, pirate ship, etc, to yourself between stops. And the simulations would be stocked with nice gadgets and souvenirs you couldn't take out of the room, but could buy at the gift shop! By Gint's portfolio, I'll be ROLLING in latinum!
It’s hardly a bizarre writing a choice. Either the holodeck’s power cannot be rerouted into the ship’s main systems, or USS Voyager doesn’t have a holodeck because the only reason they’d be left functional is if the ship couldn’t use that power for something more important. If there was any way of rerouting that power you’d leave maybe one able to be turned on for the more scientific uses and dismantle the rest. I mean, what, Janeway’s gonna go without coffee so Tom and Harry can play pretend on their time off? Makes sense for Intrepid Class ships to have Holodecks then, but makes zero sense for Voyager’s to be active and available for recreation once their stranded.
@@TheOriginalCFA1979 I'm actually inclined to disagree. I feel like morale would be incredibly important in their situation. If she tried to get rid of the Holodeck, there would be immediate mutiny. "Okay, so our situation has gotten pretty dire. The only way to keep the Holodeck running is to turn off the toilets. Our only option at that point would be to crap in one large communal bucket and blow it out the airlock when it gets full. I'm sure you all can make the sensible decision here." "Of course. Now, does it actually need to be one bucket, or can we have a somewhat smaller bucket every two decks?"
@@TheOriginalCFA1979 To be fair, the captain would also understand that holodecks are necessary to keep the crew from going stir crazy with cabin fever unless she wanted to go out of her way to search out M-class worlds with hospitable species every few months. They're far from their support network so the crew can't go take trips to Risa or other friendly worlds/bases when they want to use their leave :P That was kind of the point of holodeck development in the first place, so that long-range exploration vessels wouldn't HAVE to return to Federation space so often for shore leave and whatnot.
It was also the first to come equipped with the newest generation of Industrial replicators for use in building new shuttles, worker bees, habitats for planets and asteroids, and just about anything else they need while on extended missions away from core federation space and supply routes. These new generation replicators had the added tech to process raw ore that they mined among other advantages from previous generations.
and it was that capability that allowed the Delta Flyer to be built, and we probably see the next generation of that replicator Technology used onboard the USS protostar in Prodigy.
I think that Star Trek is kind of avoiding that because a pack of organic material doing computer things at such high speeds in a manner that would need to do it in a way (organic) that's comparatively really slow and cold (chemical, especially complex chemistry) would cross from science fiction, even science fantasy, into fantasy. A gel pack, as an organic chemical processor, despite being godlike in computing power compared to anything we can do in the real world, would be physically too unable to do such things in a reality where Star Trek level processors do things at comparatively the speed of light... where anything organic takes split-seconds at fastest. As for those gel packs working parallel, that would work... doing the slower things in a multitasking way... that would make gel packs actually useful if they are NOT the core CPU(s) but slave processors.
An organic thing, like a gel pack, would catch on fire or even explode if it replaced a single core Star Trek CPU ship function. Imagine replacing the digital device you are using now with the hive mind of an ant colony, using ants. Sure, with proper programming, that ant colony would be far smarter, but push them to do what your device does at the speed it does... it would catch on fire without having time to shut itself down due to heat.
Intrepid was designed for variety if mission parameters. - facilitate modern defense priorities even among non war capable starships. (Replace obsolete starships) - Mitigate manning requirements for strategic use ( ship of 150 vs 300 to 400) - testbed for higher efficiency Propulsion speeds - testbed for possible technologies (bio gel packs) to potentially introduce in new or upgraded starships or test long term viability in deep space conditions - investigation of possible colonization of future federation worlds (stake claim with fastest ship)
True they could of taken the specifications for the cloaked ship Harry Kim commanded briefly.now take those specifications compare the design to 23rd century klingon and romulan designs . Now get seven and the klingon engineer to hammer out a prototype .
It would make some sense, though we dont know if the Treaty of Alger9n has some incredibly harsh penalties for breaking it (the whole Pegasus incident might have left Adm Preston hung out to dry, as the crews of both the Enterprise and the Pegasus strenuously objected) It would have cut down on storylines, though.
@JeanDanielCloutier treaty of algeron have no meaning in delta quadrant though on serious note they had ample opportunities to get stealth technology for their ship.refractive shielding,Harry's cloak vessel,the klingon encounter, and historical specs they had in database, sevens borg knowledge pretty sure she could build one.
The Intrepid was one of the first ship designs that made me think someone got a bit of inspiration while eating a meal. "What should we base the design around?" "... I have this spoon," "..." "..." "..." "It's better than a fork." "Yes, Starfleet wouldn't go with a fork-ship." "Or a knife," "What about the Romulans?" "... a spoon is perfect."
WOOOOOOH! YEAH! INTREPID! WOOOOH! I like this ship. Definitely my favourite, canon ship. Its an excellent light explorer. Going out for only say two years instead of five. But possibly getting just as much done in that time. Something else cool about the Intrepid is that when compare side-by-side with the much longer excelsior they actually have comparable internal volume. That is to say the foundational space inside used to store equipment and crew it quite close.
This is one of my favorite ships. Newer classes of starships were getting larger and larger, because they believed this was required for deep space exploration. This left a gap, so they made the Intrepid class anyway. This was after the disaster at Wolf 359, so they knew it had to be able to take care of itself. And this was before Seven of 9 became a member of Voyager, who then started upgrading Voyager with Borg technology for the remainder of its journey across the galaxy. So although it's not the Defiant or Prometheus, it's still a tough ship.
I have to say, that the name Intrepid, owns two of my favorite ship designs in all of Trek. I've always loved the lines of both this era Intrepid, and the Enterprise era version.
The best class in history, coming back in one piece from Delta quadrant deserves huge praise for designers and the crew, this is the most successful class definitely. Going in as an intrepid, coming back as an upgraded borg-intrepid-ablative class. Also, Voyager crew making a whole new class of shuttle is just incredible, I hope starfleet recognised the importance of Delta flyer design and used it to make more after Voyager came back
I started listening to the other top Star Trek TH-camrs... they're all excited and often frustrated about something.... I like your channel best. Also, would LOVE to see a video about the timeline of upgrades to the USS Voyager.
Awesome video! Keep up the great work. Requesting to see a video about Voyager after it came back in end game. Let's hear all about the added technology episode by episode. Things that were added and potentially could have been added. Like the cannon they were looking to acquire b4 7 of 9 had the got oustead. There was another terrific episode where they were caught in a pocket of space and came across a ship with more advanced sensors. Janeway said to take the technology off of that ship to help them. No it wasnt season 1's caught in an annomoly episode. Lol. Thanks
Great video on one of my favorite vessels! Having recently watched the entire Voyager series again, I was left frustrated by how concept-rich it was, but how it rarely pursued the potential of most of those concepts. And it short shrifted some of the regular and recurring crew members (ahem, Ensign Kim, ahem).
Rick I truly love your work you have a great narrative style you seem likeable some one who loves the franchise and who iv followed from the start thank you for the 100s of hours of wounder keep up the first rate work all the best mon ame
I had a few of the Playmates ships. The Duras bird of prey, the Enterprise E, and Voyager. All of them had lights and sound effects. Voyager also had motorized nacelles just like in the show. I really miss my toys/models. I bought them about 25 years ago 😊😊😊
I too really love Voyager's design. I always thought Rick Sternbach's early concept the model that was built was interesting. A while back I made a Voyager model and was able to get Rick Sternbach's permission to have it as the U.S.S. Sternbach in honor of him and the registry was his birth date which he allowed me to use. I ended up selling the model but I am getting another Voyager model from a friend soon and I'll probably build that as the U.S.S. Sternbach.
"Didn't want to risk losing the aeroshuttle because getting a replacement would be difficult." And then voyager made the mary sue shuttle, the delta flyer, with that inability to get another large shuttle, incorporating borg technology, as well as pioneering some as part of it's design, like a small shipyard, that couldn't replace a large shuttle that used standard, known technology. It was supposedly because of "budget". Which still doesn't make sense because the aeroshuttle in concept would use the runabout interior set, could be CG generated, etc. A small study for the aeroshuttle was in fact made, using the runabout set and some stage crew in costume as well as some middling effort CG as a proof of concept. The producers didn't do any more with it because of "production costs". Then they made the delta flyer set. And a CG model. And gave it tons of screen time. Etc. Yet another example of voyager's bizarre production at times. Maybe if pressed hard enough the producers will finally admit voyager has a secret, limitless, infinite energy replicator on board. That'd explain the torpedoes as well in addition to the fact voyager is nearly destroyed almost every fight but is miraculously repaired and brand new clean and tip top shape by next episode. That's the real absurd thing in terms of resources.
@@Utubesuperstar Is that commentary from the producers? There's so many interviews over the years it can be hard to find specific information like that.
@@maverickjsmith8795 yes they had a full sequence with the aero shuttle and half finished cgi but they canned it cause it was too similar to insurrection
@@Utubesuperstar That seems like an odd reason and almost sounds like some kind of favoritism. "The big bad TNG crew is the only one that can have cool things." Or some focus group of 10 or less people said they didn't like both having it. We all know how that goes. Those infallible focus group studies.
Built with the most powerful plot armor Starfleet has ever created, this class can take on borg cubes single handily where fleets before were destroyed.
I kinda feel like the intrepid class took over most roles of the galaxy, while the Galaxy was retrofitted for capital ships/Command Ships during the dominion war.
I've always been curious about how Voyager ranked in terms of power/speed etc once it returned to Earth. Like I know it was pretty much vaulted and studied by Starfleet, but considering all it's upgrades and tech from the future, it must have been a formidable ship even if it was almost 7yrs old.
I always thought a likely explanation for the aero shuttle was that it hadn't been installed by Voyagers initial mission to the badlands. Instead a plate was installed in the hull to block off the bay and this otherwise unused space would have been used for the hydroponics Bay or some other improvised use. Hell, it would have been an excellent launch/storage bay for the Delta Flyer eventually! Convert that plate into a set of drop bay doors and you have plenty of space to build and maintain the thing without crowding the main shuttle bay complex.
Not just awesome content from an info point of view but your beauty shots of the ship class from Star Trek Online rival the intro's to Trek. Amazing work Rick!
My favourite fact is that most intrepid successors maintain the bio neural gel packs so like starfleet is one bioweapon away from having half of its fleet take a sick day
A simple one that acts like a common cold. That only affects humans should not raise any alarms until it enters the bio neural pack. Once in contact with the BN pack it will replicate and once a density of infected to non infected is reached it could mutate to a more damaging form. … that would make a really good episode or series arc for a Star track show set I. That era.
It had a 5th torpedo launcher in secondary hull under side of engineering near warp core ejection zone , tuvok used it to defend against 2 ships of the vidian peoples in the delta quadrant, not many people mention this but it’s there I saw it fire from that zone on that episode tuvok had B Elanna toras chief engineer at that time eject a contaminant pod of old duteriaum or use up antimatter , one of them any ways an fired torpedo towards it an blew it up an disabling those 2 vidian ships it was cools as hell
We always think of her as a smaller vessels, but it's still larger and far more volume than the Constitution. They just really packed them in on those old ships.
There's one other thing you don't go over and that's if Voyager is anything to go on *at all* Intrepids have exceptionally resilient hulls for their size and have very few critical weakpoints that could cause catastrophic damage. Their shields also seem to significantly over perform for their size when combined with the hull strength. We see Voyager even right out of the yard take repeated punishment to the hull with either no or very limited shields and it absorbs firepower that would typically be an episode-defining problem in TNG pretty regularly, to the point where at least to me it genuinely seems like an Interpid's hull is tougher than a Galaxy's by quite some margin. I'm sure this is exaggerated in the later Voyager seasons thanks to all the upgrades but even very early it's extremely tough
🖖😎👍Very nicely well executed and informatively explained in every way and detail possibly provided indeed, And I myself have always been a big fan of the Intrepid class👌.
This is one of my favorite youtube channels. You always generate well thought-out content while avoiding transphobic bullshit like some other Trek-tubers put out. Keep up the good work.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts in a video where other Starfleet ships from the 24th century would have to make the same 70,000 light year journey that Voyager did, to see how well you think they would do and if they would even complete the journey.
I'd love that! I always thought Voyager was probably the best ship to be flung 70,000 light years away in. Small and fast enough to keep going without needing too many supplies, powerful sensors to help navigate and find resources and also collect scientific data to bring home, and enough firepower to defend itself. A galaxy class ship would probably need to spend more time obtaining resources and the Defiant would be too small to keep itself maintained. The cloak would help, but a cloak is useless if it doesn't get you home.
The original reason for the variable geometry warp field wasn't high speed but not causing environmental damage to habitable planets. At some point the writers hoped everyone had just forgotten about it and never mentioned it again but there are several, fairly obscure references from Voyager and in early written material related to Voyager making it clear that was the reason for the folding nacelle pylons. Also, as anyone who has watched Voyager knows the Intrepid class has a highly variable number of shuttles and torpedoes which apparently rapidly increase and decrease for no known reason and follow no discernable pattern.
The variable geometry pylons were about protecting subspace, not planets. And about the shuttles and torpedoes, Voyager was constantly recovering and repairing shuttles or building a new one when one was destroyed. As for the torpedoes, Voyager was constantly building/ acquiring torpedo components. Voyager does have industrial replicators for both tasks.
I love the Intrepid class. One of the things you didn't mention is that it can conduct planetary operations and landings. Given that bad things have previously been shown to happen to starships that venture too far into an atmosphere, this is a big deal.
the intrepid class is one of my favourite because is good in everything... can pack a punch if needed the defence capability are insane... work as a science vessel long range... I think if change a little could work so well as very long range explorer... like the pathfinder class... you could add a vehicle replicator and a protostar drive
I remember in the beginning of Star Trek Voyager what they would countdown until they would run out of photon torpedoes and then at the series went on they just gave up on that and the ship had unlimited Torpedoes LOL
Voyager was only equipped with the. Bio neural gel packs. They only attempted to switch and retrofit over to the isolinear chips when they were stranded in the Delta quadrant.
I would say another reason they never used the captains yacht was because even if they would be able to replace it or close the gap in the hull with permanent duranium, that would have meant at least 2-3 months repairing at a random space base, which could make them an easy target for the kazons etc. and later the Borg or Hirogen. It would also have meant that they would have lost months of flying towards earth. So they sticked to those vessels whose lost don't mean a big gap in the hull (which is a huge security risk!)
Omg explaining it as the Intrepid was already nearly finished when they discovered the warp problem so that's why it had moving nacelle's but future designs already knew the issue from the ground up and thus that is why they look sleaker and don't have moving nacelle's is like a light bulb blowing in my simple little mind haha 😅 👍👌👍
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Whatever you may think of the show itself... Voyager was the best looking "Hero" ship in the franchise... just my opinion.
Next to the Enterprise E of course. In my humble opinion.
I have to agree with you in the regards of what Voyager would go up against in its story.
@@claytonbouldin9381 Enterprise E looks fine, though I think the 2nd best looking ship in the Federation service is Voyager B
I had a Dodge Intrepid in high school. I remember watching Voyager on the UPN channel when it came out. My intrepid was white so I put the USS Voyager NCC 74656 and a starfleet insignia on the hood.
Growing up in the 60's i had to hide NCC-1701, you made my day
Salute to ya.
Based
How is that based. Its dope as hell
I love how the Intrepid's purpose clashes with Voyager's first mission to hunt Maquis in the badlands. They needed a coastal coastal gunboat so they sent an America's Cup yacht.
I didn't know what an America's Cup yacht was but I looked it up and you're pretty much spot on! Voyager is basically a racing yacht with planetarium strapped to it.
To be fair, sending a really, really fast and nimble ship isn’t a bad choice for navigating the badlands.
And still had formidable and decent weapons and shields the class I fill was a wolf in sheep's clothing on paper a scientific research vessel and yes it could do that but all so a first strike get in get out vessel and a group of them I think could do a fairly decent job of hitting an enemy hard Voyager proves it time and time again let alone actually getting home lol in short I believe the class to be a ship of war or at least a destroyer class its a fine class for sure 👍
Except they didn't? It's impossible to ignore that all of the science equipment, speed, extended loiter abilities, and sheer firepower make it an *excellent* deep penetration surveillance vessel. It's clearly part of the Akira/Sovereign school of a Starfleet that does all the old Starfleet things, but is leaner, meaner, and more combat-capable than the Nebulas its intended to replace.
In a way, it's the closest thing we get to a WW1-style battlecruiser; gunned enough to do real damage to anything smaller, fast enough to do reconnaissance and run away from anything too big for it, preferably fighting a running battle back to safety.
I always loved the intrepids design. its both sleek and sturdy looking, and still completely star fleet.
Yeah, I have always been fond of this class. Though for such a "speedy" little ship those nacelles are awfully small... Now maybe with some Sovereign style nacelles and they were underslung like the original concept. That would be wicked!
It amazes me how much detailed, specific info there is on technology that doesn't even exist
There is even more than I mention in these videos, but I don't want to stray too far from the canon of the screens
But probably will exist. Today's scifi is tomorrow's technology, as they say. Seems to generally be the case.
You've got to imagine that an intrepid class hoofing it across the whole galaxy was a huge feather in the class' cap.
That design team is writing its own tickets at places like SCE and Daystrom believe me.
It helps it somehow avoided permanent damage, crew loss and had a bag of holding for a shuttle deck.
@@rossallan3585I believe they did complain a time or two about not having enough crew anymore. Some did die and there was extra work for many people because of it.
The Intrepid class was an excellent design for its purpose.
I love the Intrepid class design, it just looks very balanced and purposeful. The teaspoon shaped primary hull, and blending of primary and secondary hulls probably inspire the Enterprise-E design. Interesting to learn the degree to which it was designed around certain purposes for the plot of the series, as this probably helped keep the design grounded and realistic looking.
I would love to see a video breaking down the modifications made to voyager during it's mission
And any other modifications to other Intrepids we know about
Me too!!
I wonder how much of it would boil down to "And then Janeway broke the Temporal directive, AGAIN!" (She often had good reasons, but good god Voyager and time travel...)
The USS Bellerophan was the admiral's flagship in DS9 a Intrepid class.
Voyagers torpedo manufacturing room and shuttle printer will never be seen!
As much as people dump on Voyager's writing, USS Voyager has to be one of the sexiest ships in all of trek.
I definitely like this high end, compact design. Although it really seems there’s nowhere to go on that ship besides the mess hall and holodecks! But I guess that’s why Tom and B’Elanna had to sneak off to Jeffries Tubes, while the Galaxy-class has dozens of small and large stargazing and canoodling lounges.
One tiny nitpick, there was dialogue indicating the tricobalt warheads aren’t standard loadout.
I also reckon Section 31 makes heavy use of this class, given the sensors and high speed. (Plus of course, that being the holodeck we’re shown when Bashir is abducted.) Being a favoured admiralty ship is good cover for that too.
"canoodling lounges". That made me smile.
I wouldn't put it past Section 31 to create a highly modified version of an Intrepid-class cruiser. It's a practical and compact design packed with one of the best computer systems and sensors Starfleet designed. I bet Section 31 improved everything that made this class great and added more advanced tech like greater automation and a cloaking device (they are, after all, an intelligence organization on top of being a black ops department).
The only ship that can get a cold indeed XD
I just love the Doctors reaction to the whole situation, just another patient for the bio-bed.
"Dont you worry my little friend!" and Belanna is looking at him like hes lost his mind
Isn't she the one that said, "get that cheese to Sickbay!"?
"To discuss the patient's condition in front of the patient would be a serious breach of professional etiquette."
5:30 So for perspective, an Intrepid class is similar dimensionally to a Ford class aircraft carrier. Intrepid is longer and wider than USS Ford @ 337m x 78m flight deck, but more squat than 76m. But 7x the mass and 5 percent of the crew. This is relevant to me having served 4 years on a Nimitz class.
IIRC many of the fictional materials used in Star Trek are extremely dense so that could account for the mass, but I feel like even with extensive automation the tiny crew size is a stretch. I'm pretty sure Starfleet at this time doesn't make significant use of nanotech, so what's doing all the maintenance?
Absolutely love the Intrepid class! I've named the "hero" ship in my own sci-fi novel the Intrepid in its honour. It's also an exploration vessel, in its case, it's primary mission is to seek out the naturally-occurring wormholes that are the main method of getting from Point A to Point B in a space opera that *follows* relativity. Thank you, Star Trek, for the inspiration!
Is your book ready, i would love to read it.
@@rickdrent I'm still developing it, but thank you!
I like the Intrepid a lot, but special shout out to the Intrepid's successors in ST Online: The Pathfinder and Trailblazer classes. I adore those
Pathfinder, designed around Slipstream and straight up gorgeous.
The Intrepid and the Nova classes are my favorite ship designs. I love smaller ships designs.
I LOVE the Nova's as well!! It's my absolute favorite design in Star Trek history!!
THe intrepid class ship is my fav ship. Loved the voyager show.
This is my favourite ship design in all of ST, followed VERY closely by the NX-01 Enterprise. It has this little dog mentality, if you want a fight we'll being it, that I just love
Honestly probably my single favorite design concept to come out of StarTrek, its a dedicated Science Vessel but is armed like a Galaxy class but around 1/3 the total size. The Luxury liner in space that was the Galaxy class. I also love they took the best design queues from Voyager and brought it forward with the the next generation of StarFleet vessels.
The warp pylons on the Intrepid always looked a bit awkward and tacked on rather than an intention design feature, which I suppose lore wise actually makes sense. Anyhow looking forward to a review of the many upgrades Voyager got during its trip home as a piece of future content!
Love the intrepid-class, especially Voyager. It’s actually my favorite out of all the hero ships, Enterprise included.
I remember with Voyager that the holodecks apparently ran on a different power source than the rest of the ship, and the power sources were not compatible somehow.
Bizarre writing choices aside, I think it would be interesting to see some kind of cruise-space-ship where each cabin is a small holodeck. You could essentially have an entire mansion, castle, top-floor 1980's penthouse, pirate ship, etc, to yourself between stops.
And the simulations would be stocked with nice gadgets and souvenirs you couldn't take out of the room, but could buy at the gift shop! By Gint's portfolio, I'll be ROLLING in latinum!
I think they meant the Holodecks power systems are too weak to be compatible. The power load a ship needs is going to not be enough.
It’s hardly a bizarre writing a choice. Either the holodeck’s power cannot be rerouted into the ship’s main systems, or USS Voyager doesn’t have a holodeck because the only reason they’d be left functional is if the ship couldn’t use that power for something more important. If there was any way of rerouting that power you’d leave maybe one able to be turned on for the more scientific uses and dismantle the rest.
I mean, what, Janeway’s gonna go without coffee so Tom and Harry can play pretend on their time off? Makes sense for Intrepid Class ships to have Holodecks then, but makes zero sense for Voyager’s to be active and available for recreation once their stranded.
@@TheOriginalCFA1979 I'm actually inclined to disagree. I feel like morale would be incredibly important in their situation. If she tried to get rid of the Holodeck, there would be immediate mutiny.
"Okay, so our situation has gotten pretty dire. The only way to keep the Holodeck running is to turn off the toilets. Our only option at that point would be to crap in one large communal bucket and blow it out the airlock when it gets full. I'm sure you all can make the sensible decision here."
"Of course. Now, does it actually need to be one bucket, or can we have a somewhat smaller bucket every two decks?"
@@TheOriginalCFA1979 To be fair, the captain would also understand that holodecks are necessary to keep the crew from going stir crazy with cabin fever unless she wanted to go out of her way to search out M-class worlds with hospitable species every few months. They're far from their support network so the crew can't go take trips to Risa or other friendly worlds/bases when they want to use their leave :P
That was kind of the point of holodeck development in the first place, so that long-range exploration vessels wouldn't HAVE to return to Federation space so often for shore leave and whatnot.
I woke up this morning wanting to find a very very specific type of video. This was exactly that video. Thank you
It was also the first to come equipped with the newest generation of Industrial replicators for use in building new shuttles, worker bees, habitats for planets and asteroids, and just about anything else they need while on extended missions away from core federation space and supply routes.
These new generation replicators had the added tech to process raw ore that they mined among other advantages from previous generations.
and it was that capability that allowed the Delta Flyer to be built, and we probably see the next generation of that replicator Technology used onboard the USS protostar in Prodigy.
Now we know where all the new shuttles came from. I counted about 12.
A very balanced design! Simple but refined. The only feature I never liked was the design of warp engines moving.
Have you done a video on the gel packs? I’m very interested in the development of the devices, both in-universe and IRL.
I think that Star Trek is kind of avoiding that because a pack of organic material doing computer things at such high speeds in a manner that would need to do it in a way (organic) that's comparatively really slow and cold (chemical, especially complex chemistry) would cross from science fiction, even science fantasy, into fantasy. A gel pack, as an organic chemical processor, despite being godlike in computing power compared to anything we can do in the real world, would be physically too unable to do such things in a reality where Star Trek level processors do things at comparatively the speed of light... where anything organic takes split-seconds at fastest.
As for those gel packs working parallel, that would work... doing the slower things in a multitasking way... that would make gel packs actually useful if they are NOT the core CPU(s) but slave processors.
An organic thing, like a gel pack, would catch on fire or even explode if it replaced a single core Star Trek CPU ship function. Imagine replacing the digital device you are using now with the hive mind of an ant colony, using ants. Sure, with proper programming, that ant colony would be far smarter, but push them to do what your device does at the speed it does... it would catch on fire without having time to shut itself down due to heat.
@@That80sGuy1972I mean it is a show about space, could be derived from an alien life form, even a silicon life form to avoid overheating issues
Starfleet probably backed off from the gel packs after Voyager’s experiences with them. I mean the ship was disabled by cheese for Christ’s sake.
Intrepid was designed for variety if mission parameters.
- facilitate modern defense priorities even among non war capable starships. (Replace obsolete starships)
- Mitigate manning requirements for strategic use ( ship of 150 vs 300 to 400)
- testbed for higher efficiency Propulsion speeds
- testbed for possible technologies (bio gel packs) to potentially introduce in new or upgraded starships or test long term viability in deep space conditions
- investigation of possible colonization of future federation worlds (stake claim with fastest ship)
when it come to the voyager modification im surprised they didnt develop a cloaking device as that would be useful for avoiding hostile forces
True they could of taken the specifications for the cloaked ship Harry Kim commanded briefly.now take those specifications compare the design to 23rd century klingon and romulan designs .
Now get seven and the klingon engineer to hammer out a prototype .
It would make some sense, though we dont know if the Treaty of Alger9n has some incredibly harsh penalties for breaking it (the whole Pegasus incident might have left Adm Preston hung out to dry, as the crews of both the Enterprise and the Pegasus strenuously objected)
It would have cut down on storylines, though.
Janeway would never let herself break any Federation treaty or rule even if nobody ever found out.
@JeanDanielCloutier treaty of algeron have no meaning in delta quadrant though on serious note they had ample opportunities to get stealth technology for their ship.refractive shielding,Harry's cloak vessel,the klingon encounter, and historical specs they had in database, sevens borg knowledge pretty sure she could build one.
The Intrepid was one of the first ship designs that made me think someone got a bit of inspiration while eating a meal.
"What should we base the design around?"
"... I have this spoon,"
"..."
"..."
"..."
"It's better than a fork."
"Yes, Starfleet wouldn't go with a fork-ship."
"Or a knife,"
"What about the Romulans?"
"... a spoon is perfect."
I used to pretend spoons were the ENTERPRISE.
@@mem1701movies the Enterprise is a pizzacutter
Yes! I've always thought it looked like a spoon, even as a kid!
@@The_Str4nger I'd say more of a sideways spoon, at least the D anyway xD
Damn, there's a lot to love in those concept designs.
I'd just like to take a moment to congratulate the artists in Star Trek Online for making the canon ships look freaking *amazing*
I love the intrepid design the shape, and sheer durability it really is just an amazing and well-rounded design.
WOOOOOOH! YEAH! INTREPID! WOOOOH!
I like this ship. Definitely my favourite, canon ship. Its an excellent light explorer. Going out for only say two years instead of five. But possibly getting just as much done in that time.
Something else cool about the Intrepid is that when compare side-by-side with the much longer excelsior they actually have comparable internal volume.
That is to say the foundational space inside used to store equipment and crew it quite close.
This is one of my favorite ships. Newer classes of starships were getting larger and larger, because they believed this was required for deep space exploration. This left a gap, so they made the Intrepid class anyway. This was after the disaster at Wolf 359, so they knew it had to be able to take care of itself. And this was before Seven of 9 became a member of Voyager, who then started upgrading Voyager with Borg technology for the remainder of its journey across the galaxy. So although it's not the Defiant or Prometheus, it's still a tough ship.
I have to say, that the name Intrepid, owns two of my favorite ship designs in all of Trek. I've always loved the lines of both this era Intrepid, and the Enterprise era version.
The best class in history, coming back in one piece from Delta quadrant deserves huge praise for designers and the crew, this is the most successful class definitely. Going in as an intrepid, coming back as an upgraded borg-intrepid-ablative class.
Also, Voyager crew making a whole new class of shuttle is just incredible, I hope starfleet recognised the importance of Delta flyer design and used it to make more after Voyager came back
I started listening to the other top Star Trek TH-camrs... they're all excited and often frustrated about something.... I like your channel best.
Also, would LOVE to see a video about the timeline of upgrades to the USS Voyager.
You missed out that the plans for the Intrepid class show 2 warp cores. And dolphins.
Awesome video! Keep up the great work.
Requesting to see a video about Voyager after it came back in end game. Let's hear all about the added technology episode by episode. Things that were added and potentially could have been added. Like the cannon they were looking to acquire b4 7 of 9 had the got oustead. There was another terrific episode where they were caught in a pocket of space and came across a ship with more advanced sensors. Janeway said to take the technology off of that ship to help them. No it wasnt season 1's caught in an annomoly episode. Lol.
Thanks
The Intrepids are my favorite ship class hands down.
Great video on one of my favorite vessels! Having recently watched the entire Voyager series again, I was left frustrated by how concept-rich it was, but how it rarely pursued the potential of most of those concepts. And it short shrifted some of the regular and recurring crew members (ahem, Ensign Kim, ahem).
Let's hope Prodigy season 2 fixes Harry Kim's promotion issue.
@@barrybend7189 Prodigy has been amazing!
..indeed, the voyager deserves it's own vid discussion...please do come up with one..stay awesome!!
Rick I truly love your work you have a great narrative style you seem likeable some one who loves the franchise and who iv followed from the start thank you for the 100s of hours of wounder keep up the first rate work all the best mon ame
Honestly it is one of my favorite designs.
That was great dude! Thanks!
Oh yeah. I forgot about the last part.
Thanks again Rick.
Nova class looks on enviously.
I had a few of the Playmates ships. The Duras bird of prey, the Enterprise E, and Voyager. All of them had lights and sound effects. Voyager also had motorized nacelles just like in the show. I really miss my toys/models. I bought them about 25 years ago 😊😊😊
There are only 2 TH-camrs I get excited for, when they post a new video. You and rSlash.
I love your videos! Always learn something new!
I too really love Voyager's design. I always thought Rick Sternbach's early concept the model that was built was interesting. A while back I made a Voyager model and was able to get Rick Sternbach's permission to have it as the U.S.S. Sternbach in honor of him and the registry was his birth date which he allowed me to use. I ended up selling the model but I am getting another Voyager model from a friend soon and I'll probably build that as the U.S.S. Sternbach.
"Didn't want to risk losing the aeroshuttle because getting a replacement would be difficult."
And then voyager made the mary sue shuttle, the delta flyer, with that inability to get another large shuttle, incorporating borg technology, as well as pioneering some as part of it's design, like a small shipyard, that couldn't replace a large shuttle that used standard, known technology.
It was supposedly because of "budget". Which still doesn't make sense because the aeroshuttle in concept would use the runabout interior set, could be CG generated, etc. A small study for the aeroshuttle was in fact made, using the runabout set and some stage crew in costume as well as some middling effort CG as a proof of concept. The producers didn't do any more with it because of "production costs".
Then they made the delta flyer set. And a CG model. And gave it tons of screen time. Etc. Yet another example of voyager's bizarre production at times. Maybe if pressed hard enough the producers will finally admit voyager has a secret, limitless, infinite energy replicator on board. That'd explain the torpedoes as well in addition to the fact voyager is nearly destroyed almost every fight but is miraculously repaired and brand new clean and tip top shape by next episode. That's the real absurd thing in terms of resources.
The aero shuttle ie captains yacht got scrapped because of Star Trek insurrection and the captains yacht sequence
@@Utubesuperstar Is that commentary from the producers? There's so many interviews over the years it can be hard to find specific information like that.
@@maverickjsmith8795 yes they had a full sequence with the aero shuttle and half finished cgi but they canned it cause it was too similar to insurrection
@@Utubesuperstar That seems like an odd reason and almost sounds like some kind of favoritism. "The big bad TNG crew is the only one that can have cool things."
Or some focus group of 10 or less people said they didn't like both having it. We all know how that goes. Those infallible focus group studies.
@@maverickjsmith8795 it absolutely was favoritism, though a movie vs a tv show it makes sense they’d prioritize the movie
Built with the most powerful plot armor Starfleet has ever created, this class can take on borg cubes single handily where fleets before were destroyed.
I would absolutely LOVE a video on all of Voyager's modifications!
I liked the fact they mostly did away with the vulnerable neck area that never made any sense but something about the tail of it seems off
My big question is: are there OTHER Intrepid class ships that have been mentioned in Canon? I think it’s the most beautiful class…
Aside from Voyager I only know about the Bellerophon, which showed up in DS9 Season 7.
I kinda feel like the intrepid class took over most roles of the galaxy, while the Galaxy was retrofitted for capital ships/Command Ships during the dominion war.
@@HomoSolari and likely Intrepid herself
@@IN-tm8mw I see it more early war the main shipyard makign them was hit, hence the YEAGER class
@@Revkor That's a good take.
I've always been curious about how Voyager ranked in terms of power/speed etc once it returned to Earth. Like I know it was pretty much vaulted and studied by Starfleet, but considering all it's upgrades and tech from the future, it must have been a formidable ship even if it was almost 7yrs old.
These videos really make me want an updated Bridge Commander game.
I always thought a likely explanation for the aero shuttle was that it hadn't been installed by Voyagers initial mission to the badlands. Instead a plate was installed in the hull to block off the bay and this otherwise unused space would have been used for the hydroponics Bay or some other improvised use.
Hell, it would have been an excellent launch/storage bay for the Delta Flyer eventually! Convert that plate into a set of drop bay doors and you have plenty of space to build and maintain the thing without crowding the main shuttle bay complex.
I also favor this idea. Otherwise it would've been used in some cases like the year of hell to evacuate everyone and improve the odds of survival.
Awesome video Rick! Loving your channel buddy. Love the joke at the end “it’s the only ship on star fleet that can catch a cold”
Keep up the good work
Not just awesome content from an info point of view but your beauty shots of the ship class from Star Trek Online rival the intro's to Trek. Amazing work Rick!
The Path Finder is the sexy upgrade it needed
I love this ship! I always thought it was way better looking than any of the enterprise offerings.
My favourite fact is that most intrepid successors maintain the bio neural gel packs so like starfleet is one bioweapon away from having half of its fleet take a sick day
A simple one that acts like a common cold. That only affects humans should not raise any alarms until it enters the bio neural pack. Once in contact with the BN pack it will replicate and once a density of infected to non infected is reached it could mutate to a more damaging form.
… that would make a really good episode or series arc for a Star track show set I. That era.
My favourite little ship, I can't help but think she's beautiful! Enterprise E is also stunning but the intrepid class is just something special.
Intrepid is my fav ship of all time.
Enterprise B and D runners up.
Refit constellation honorary mention.
Yup, Intrepid's are drop-dead sexy.
For me, I've always had a soft-spot for Miranda's and Ambassador classes.
It had a 5th torpedo launcher in secondary hull under side of engineering near warp core ejection zone , tuvok used it to defend against 2 ships of the vidian peoples in the delta quadrant, not many people mention this but it’s there I saw it fire from that zone on that episode tuvok had B Elanna toras chief engineer at that time eject a contaminant pod of old duteriaum or use up antimatter , one of them any ways an fired torpedo towards it an blew it up an disabling those 2 vidian ships it was cools as hell
I'm glad you landed that pot-shot one Neelix's cooking at the end so I didn't have to.
We always think of her as a smaller vessels, but it's still larger and far more volume than the Constitution. They just really packed them in on those old ships.
There's one other thing you don't go over and that's if Voyager is anything to go on *at all* Intrepids have exceptionally resilient hulls for their size and have very few critical weakpoints that could cause catastrophic damage. Their shields also seem to significantly over perform for their size when combined with the hull strength. We see Voyager even right out of the yard take repeated punishment to the hull with either no or very limited shields and it absorbs firepower that would typically be an episode-defining problem in TNG pretty regularly, to the point where at least to me it genuinely seems like an Interpid's hull is tougher than a Galaxy's by quite some margin. I'm sure this is exaggerated in the later Voyager seasons thanks to all the upgrades but even very early it's extremely tough
Great video loved this ship in-game and on tv
🖖😎👍Very nicely well executed and informatively explained in every way and detail possibly provided indeed, And I myself have always been a big fan of the Intrepid class👌.
This is one of my favorite youtube channels. You always generate well thought-out content while avoiding transphobic bullshit like some other Trek-tubers put out. Keep up the good work.
I like your emphasis on more videos of pointing out that lore services the story
Thank you Rick.
To me the Intrepid a return to the basics that made the Constitution class so great.
I love the flappy Intrepid.
Never tire of seeing this speed demon
I would be interested to hear your thoughts in a video where other Starfleet ships from the 24th century would have to make the same 70,000 light year journey that Voyager did, to see how well you think they would do and if they would even complete the journey.
OH! That is a neat idea.... I'll remember comment this if I post it!
I'd love that! I always thought Voyager was probably the best ship to be flung 70,000 light years away in. Small and fast enough to keep going without needing too many supplies, powerful sensors to help navigate and find resources and also collect scientific data to bring home, and enough firepower to defend itself.
A galaxy class ship would probably need to spend more time obtaining resources and the Defiant would be too small to keep itself maintained. The cloak would help, but a cloak is useless if it doesn't get you home.
We saw an example in the show: the Equinox.
@@augiegirl1 indeed we did!
The original reason for the variable geometry warp field wasn't high speed but not causing environmental damage to habitable planets. At some point the writers hoped everyone had just forgotten about it and never mentioned it again but there are several, fairly obscure references from Voyager and in early written material related to Voyager making it clear that was the reason for the folding nacelle pylons.
Also, as anyone who has watched Voyager knows the Intrepid class has a highly variable number of shuttles and torpedoes which apparently rapidly increase and decrease for no known reason and follow no discernable pattern.
The variable geometry pylons were about protecting subspace, not planets.
And about the shuttles and torpedoes, Voyager was constantly recovering and repairing shuttles or building a new one when one was destroyed. As for the torpedoes, Voyager was constantly building/ acquiring torpedo components. Voyager does have industrial replicators for both tasks.
Love these videos
Voyager is one of the best ships in Design, I think😊
Cool, my SF Science toon flies a ship in the Intrepid family.
I love the Intrepid class. One of the things you didn't mention is that it can conduct planetary operations and landings. Given that bad things have previously been shown to happen to starships that venture too far into an atmosphere, this is a big deal.
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@@snonsig2688 Oh thank you, I missed it! I retract my statement. I still love the class, though.
the intrepid class is one of my favourite because is good in everything... can pack a punch if needed the defence capability are insane... work as a science vessel long range... I think if change a little could work so well as very long range explorer... like the pathfinder class... you could add a vehicle replicator and a protostar drive
I enjoyed this. Thanks
"Vessel identified: Federation Starfleet, Intrepid-class, 143 lifeforms. Prepare for assimilation."- Borg collective
From Voyager:Dark Frontier
14 type 10 phaser banks... Right up there with any other battle cruiser/ dreadnought.
This could be it's new slogan:
The Intrepid - The only class in Starfleet capable to catch a cold.
XD
I remember in the beginning of Star Trek Voyager what they would countdown until they would run out of photon torpedoes and then at the series went on they just gave up on that and the ship had unlimited Torpedoes LOL
To go with their unlimited shuttles...
The Intrepid Starship is my No. 1 favorite design. Then Galaxy, Soverign, etc.
Voyager was only equipped with the. Bio neural gel packs. They only attempted to switch and retrofit over to the isolinear chips when they were stranded in the Delta quadrant.
We do need a video on Janeway’s Frankenship. :)
I can't believe the production team just forgot about the scout craft! xD
Dude you and your content are so awesome. You remind me of spacedock, are you sure you're not him as well?
I would say another reason they never used the captains yacht was because even if they would be able to replace it or close the gap in the hull with permanent duranium, that would have meant at least 2-3 months repairing at a random space base, which could make them an easy target for the kazons etc. and later the Borg or Hirogen. It would also have meant that they would have lost months of flying towards earth. So they sticked to those vessels whose lost don't mean a big gap in the hull (which is a huge security risk!)
Another SUPERB VIDEO !!!! You are great for focusing on REAL ST not that nutrek abomination
Most beautiful ships in the fleet ❤️
I'm just imagining how these would have paired with 2 to 4 Degiant class vessels as a kind of wolf pack.
Omg explaining it as the Intrepid was already nearly finished when they discovered the warp problem so that's why it had moving nacelle's but future designs already knew the issue from the ground up and thus that is why they look sleaker and don't have moving nacelle's is like a light bulb blowing in my simple little mind haha 😅 👍👌👍
Intrepid Class was a very good Starship design.
You missed a couple of 0s in the shuttle craft complement bit. :D