@@TheMissendenFlyerSo how does this machine fair today, one year on? Just wondered as there are very few fresh reviews on this here. Is it stone dead? I can't even say I've ever seen one on the road, only the one in my local showroom is all I've seen, and sat on. The price put me off, although there may be some used machines out there now, from the usually hugely disappointed types who must buy the latest model at all costs, even though they've never ridden it, let alone see what the issues are first! 😮
I’m 43 but totally agree, I test rode the Interceptor but found it uninspiring and certain parts felt cheep. I’m looking forward to seeing the scrambler version…. 🤔
I owned a Triumph Rocket3 and traded it in for a Moto Guzzi V9. In my late 30s and i enjoy the smaller bikes more than the bigger engine bike. It is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than ride a fast bike slow.
I understand the frustrations with the delays in production etc, however id much rather a delayed product that is sorted than a basket case sold on time. Great vid as usual cheers.
Still excited to see this bike come out but sad that the company is not up to speed in communication nor production. You pointed this out clearly while sharing your positive thoughts on the bike itself. In spite of their failings I still want one.
Unfortunately just designing a good bike isn't enough is it - you need the support networks and everything else in place too to make a go of it....I hope they make it!
I wouldn't be too hard on them for not delivering the bike per their estimated time of availability considering the current worldwide situation. Communication would be appreciated though.
The pipe looks great. "Lovely" is the word for this. Hope it comes to America soon. Can't wait for a comprehensive RE vs. BSA comparison video. Lots of Mahindra dealers in Texas, so here's hoping.
@keithsbitsandpieces - Not strictly true; the Gold Star had a slightly modified bottom r/h loop to the frame to accommodate the oil pump. You could fit an A10/A7 engine in a Goldie frame, but not vice-versa.
Great review, looks like they have a winner here. Still love my 2012 T100, but if I was looking for a new bike, this new Goldstar would be at the top of my list.
I used to have a Suzuki single cylinder trial bike. It was very capable and strong for commuting and running around on. This is just the sort of bike I'd like to get back on 2 wheels with. I like the detail of the fuel cap too.
Congrats on being one of the first reviewers of a production bike - Great review, TMF! And thank you for a balanced review, especially in comparison to the Interceptor and well done for not falling into the trap of bashing the BSA for ‘not being a proper BSA’. If I was in the market for another retro (already have a SpeedTwin) this would definitely make the shortlist. 👍
Nice review. One import thing they omitted from the original is the centre stand. Much better when one considers maintenance and long term storage. Bike also resembles the A65 Star Twin from the early 60s. Likely see a RE esk 650 twin version down the road. Cheers
RE has made good work in convincing the bike world that "made in India" is no longer anything to shy away from. So BSA should have no big worries there, provided that they deliver the goods. They´ve had a rocky start, propably a lot to do with the pandemic but if their product is good enough they will win in the end. Well done to be one of the first to get this quick review out on the tube, and it was interesting to be sure. Hope you get one for a longer period, there are many of us who follow your channel who might be in the market for this bike.
Yes, these early units are shipped from India. Some stories say they are however building a factory in Birmingham?? Since they are under the TVS umbrella apparently, when they come to the US I'd like to see a TVS model come too.... They already build the BMW G310 I believe, so why not offer the TVS sister model stateside as well? but that's a different story.
@@deltabluesdavidraye But Rotax does have factories in China and Mexico. Their aircraft engines still made in Austria, but doubtful that motorcycle engines are.
Excellent review and very well done on the superfast editing and publishing. It shows how well you have nailed the format so that you are able to clip and insert the right bits in the right places within your riding commentary. Also is it a coincidence that doing the exhaust sound demonstration you showed us a second set of BSA? 😃
Cheers Mick - they only delivered the bike to me at 1:15 this afternoon - so this was quite an effort to get filmed, edited, uploaded and optimised by 7:30pm!! Not sure what you're referring to re "a second set of BSA"??
@@TheMissendenFlyer You are the owner and operator, by your own admission, of a pair of British Small Arms which you used at full stretch to operate the throttle and hold the mic by the exhaust simultaneously!!
A decent front mudguard!! Hurrah 😃… as well as that common sense detail I think they’ve certainly got the retro look pretty much spot on, as a retro it looks great. Nice little details along with some modern conveniences like the USB sockets 👍
I also registered interest over a year ago and have never heard a thing...as a result I have buyer anxiety and appreciate you bringing that up, on the plus side the scrambler version of this would be exactly what I'm looking for so I may end up waiting till next year now anyway.
I fully understand the urge to compare with interceptor, but they are really quite different imo, not only in layout, (single vs twin), but the fact that this is a blatent retro (that's OK), whereas I always feel the interceptor stands alone as just a decent no frills proper motorcycle.
Just to chime in a little, at @6:48 , the power figures of these new modern classic machines such as the bsa, interceptor, w800 etc etc are deliberately aimed at the A2 license market where youre limited to a maximum horsepower of 47bhp. Youre right that in 60 odd years an increase in a couple horsepower isnt brilliant, but it certainly isnt a point to discredit the machine! :) although yes i am now 24 years old and am riding full power bikes, the idea of more poke from something like the goldstar is appealing, but when i was 19/20 looking at all these bikes i cannot ride because of power figures, the introduction of these A2 compatible bikes was a godsend! It encourages new and younger riders to get on to gorgeous machines with adequate power to start their motorcycling journey! When i was looking at bikes when i was on my a2 license, best options were restricting full power bikes (lame, and dodgy for insurance at times) or some greatly uninspiring sports bikes which i wasnt into at all, much more into the retro malarkey lol Anyway, long winded way of saying the power isnt remarkable, but it definitely is a positive for the new generations of riders getting on some beautiful bikes
Great review by the 'Flyer', shame about the bike! I've been eagerly awaiting this machine having owned 2 BSAs, back in the day. Finally got to see one in the 'flesh' today and sit astride it. Very disappointed!! The chassis and wheels look ok but the engine and exhaust, are they serious??? To those who didn't ride or live in the era of old BSAs, Triumphs, Nortons and, dare I say, Enfields, this new BSA engine looks smart enough but absolutely nothing like an old BSA lump. I don't own a Royal Enfield but their 2 newest engines, the 650 twin and the new J-Platform 350 single, look like they could have been plucked right out of the 1950s or 1960s, modern internals in a very convincing classic styled engine casing ....... brilliant!
Nice to know you’ve got hold of a production model at long last. I think dealers will be a problem short term, which could affect servicing & warranty claims. The finish looks good, but have to be honest I hate that enormous radiator spoils the whole look of the bike. One thing I like about the Interceptor is I can service it all myself. Oh & the original BSA you showed is a 650 Rocket Gold Star twin. Safe riding all
Well, I'm actually pleasantly impressed. I like it a heck of a lot more than I thought I would and I think I'd have to plump for the green one too Andy if i'm honest. Great review as always ☺
Well done old mate for getting that out so fast. Comprehensive first impressions. Looking at some of the comments, I would leave that 'small print' section on screen a tad longer!!
Great review. I wonder if cylinder count preference is based on what you grew up with. In the 1960s, all the bikes I lusted after were singles or twins, and since my first bike was a BSA C15, I’m looking to relive my yoof. I’m going to have to get one. 😊
Wow Mr flyer you spoil us with these extra videos. What an extra video then the BSA Goldstar motorbike. I was in two mines when I heard BSA was back in production. Remember the old BSA A10 Golden Flash my dads favourite motorbike it was amazing motorbike. I was worried that new BSA would not be the same. However only future can tell on that one. I do like the classic looks of the BSA Goldstar, so thanks for this video.
Great job 👍..! To give you a bit of background about Mahindra, as a viewer from here in India, they're the biggest tractor makers worldwide. They've been in the car manufacturing sector for quite a while... But until I guess the last decade, their cars were no good. They tried their hands with the motorcycle market, didn't work well. Further they acquired "Jawa" & reintroduced their modern interpretations(300cc units rivalling the RE 350s). Initial lots were plagued with fit & finish issues, with the updated models.. They got it right. However they never set the sales chart on fire, RE took the game far away from them.
Congrats on the review coup, enjoyed your take on it and your enthusiasm for the bike comes across well. I think your target audience is perfect for this bike. Re late delivery, I prefer to think that they were holding back the bike until it's properly ready, but time will tell. Re their communications, I guess in some (most?) situations the less said the better. I'm looking forward to a test ride once it makes its way down to the Antipodes. However much I like it, I don't think I'll be swapping my GS for one, it would have to be a second bike.
100% agree with the gear change down in to first. I found myself wondering if I'd changed or found a false neutral. You soon get used to it and just learn to ignore it though. I would have liked adjustable levers too but no doubt they will become available. Worth mentioning you can easily remove (and replace) what's nowadays called a "DB Killer" in the end of the silencer which lets out a bit more noise 😉 Also. It's completely intuative and easy to ride. Just get on and go, no nasty surprises. As the saying goes... Like a hand in a (very comfy) glove. Apart from that I'd completely agree with your review and, as you said, the bike exceeded my expectations. So much so... I put a deposit down. For what it's worth. some time ago I bought a Street Twin over the Meteor as it was better quality but I actually prefer the BSA to both. Final comment, as none of the reviewers can admit to it on here. But she hits 80 with ease, 90 no problem but I chose to go no faster as the bike I was riding only had a few miles on the clock. Oh... And I was wearing an open face helmet. All done on a private road of course 🙈🙉🙊
I wasn't a fan of just shoving the old BMW F650 Rotax engine in a classic style bike, but having thought about it again it would be pretty cool if BSA made a Himalayan rival and put this engine in there.
But those Rotax 650s are so nice. I have the original carb version and a fuel injected one in the 650CS. The real shame is that the power is not 50hp like in my CS. That bike is a surprisingly smooth and fast bike with an engine that likes to rev.
@@gregorbabic7664 I think 45bhp or whatever this bike has is still "enough" considering something like the KLR650 only has 40. Would be very nice to have something equivalent available in the UK tbh.
Hey buddy, thank you for the excellent review one the new BSA motor bike, and congratulations on being one of the first to get to ride it around. So tell us all, anyone commenting on it when you are in town with it? Would like to get their view of BSA back in the road ways.
Hey Andy, nice review, I've been anxious to hear your thoughts on this bike. Glad, they slimed down the oversized exhaust some, but it would be even better in chrome instead of the satin stainless look. The other thing I really dislike though, is the taillight; it looks like such an afterthought! A proper Lucas style light on the rear fender would be so much better!
I really enjoyed that. The review was nice, but the ride was special. I grew up around there in the late 60s, so seeing you riding through Gt Missingden, turning left down the Rignals Rd, passing Kings Lane at the bottom of Cobblers Hill (home). Was marvellous. Even the old forge and thatch cottage below Little Hampden are still there. Thanks so much. Liked the bike as well.
Really interesting first impressions review. Look forward to when you can do a longer term review. BSA need to follow through with their dealer network and customer service. As a previous owner of an Interceptor I'd be very interested in a test ride.
Hiya Andy, another excellent video, Not realised a new BSA was due, pleasantly pleased with the results, great bike. I used to have the 441 Shooting Star for many years, the Original 1969 model, widely travelled loved it in my Youth. I now have a 1993 Goldwing and new Tiger 900. Love your touring Videos, especially the foreign adventures, awesome Scenery etc. Like to see some more flying exploits, even if not as popular. Keep up the great work thanks for sharing. Dave. in Sunny Lancashire.
Like the big 1 cyl. engine (should have been aircooled though), and the dials - but the RE looks better - and aircooled is the way to go for this kind of bikes.
I understand people wanting the aircooled look but realistically, liquid cooled is so much better because the engine can run within a much tighter temperature range which in turn means better fueling, more power and less emissions.
@@stevebolton8471 RE seem to manage just fine with only air cooling on their J series (349 cc) engines. Although they claim they are 'air and oil cooled'.
@@onecookieboy The 45 hp this bike runs has absolutely nothing to do with it being liquid cooled. If they wanted it could easily pull at least 60hp and stay within Euro 5. They chose 45hp to hit the A2 license market, which is the exact same for the Royal Enfield 650 bikes. Husqvarna gets 74hp from its 700cc single in the VItpilen/Svartpilen 701
An up to date comment.... me and my brother went to the BSA Roadshow at Bridge Exeter, had a test ride, and was so impressed we bought one each, even our friend with 2 1200 Bonnivilles in his shed liked them. one was in the showroon, and one was in the crate in storage. Picking them up 2nd Sept with 73 plates one letter different. Well impressed.
Really really pleased to see such a good and positive review of this and yes I want one to sit alongside my ThruxtonR and GS1250. I get all the criticisms around delays and communication but to be fair to BSA they did get hit, like everyone did, by Covid and the impact on Supply Chains etc etc. Fingers crossed its all up from here for them and that their medium to long term plan to manufacture here in England does materialise. I would tidy up the rear end, the light and plate needs to be higher up in my opinion, and maybe change the mirrors for bar end mirrors, and a shorter exhaust. Great review, thanks TMF! 😀
Very very nice! Great review, congrats on being one of the first to get your hands on one. Your riding gear complements the bike perfectly. It really does look like autumnal weather.
Another good review of a bike I'd not really paid too much attention to so far. An interesting alternative to the RE Interceptor 650 for sure. My money would go on a used '2019 Triumph Street Twin/ Scrambler 900 as I think it looks the best (personal preference obviously), has more power/torque than both RE & BSA (it is a 900 though so should have😉) and would be a more useful/expansive motorcycle that would work for a bit of everything including touring etc... Keep up the good work 😉👍👍
You're doubtless right. But I'm afraid I just could not buy a Triumph no matter how good it may be. It's the whole brand thing: where the T shirts are as important as the bike. British Harley Davidson. Just puts me right off. I'd still be putting my £ RE's way for a nice Interceptor
The management is done by Anupam Thareja. Basically this guy is buddy to Sidhart Lal (Owner of Royal Enfield) both used to ride together thus a big name in Indian motorcycling community. He seprated from Royal Enfield, wanted to do something of his own. Joined hands with Mahindra ( those guys are like Royal Enfield of cars in India, where they can just sell it by name). So i have high hopes from this colab. Since the company has a motorcycling culture in factory equal to Royal Enfield.
Nice job on your first Premier! I dislike how even a single cylinder thumper, which will probably do very few miles over it's life, is forced to be liquid cooled. This while seeing a multitude of Contrails in the sky! I'm curious how the small plane industry is being impacted by climate laws. Cheers and thanks for the review.
Lequid cooling is required for the bikes to be sold outside England,say India a far hotter climate with 11 plus compression ratio, which is a big problem for Interceptor in India.
The Interceptor does about 60mph at the top of 2nd gear, I wish you'd show us the gearing on this for comparison. When I shop around for bikes rpms at highway speeds are crucial info.
Understandable as I do the same. I found the interceptor (in my case the Continental GT) to be sublime and smooth on the highway. 80 mile an hour is around 5K RPMs (7k redline) and it is smooth as can be. Feels like the bike doesn’t struggle at all whereas it’s a bit vibey at 55 and 75. Can cruise at 90 if you want, but at that point you’re really twisting the throttle. Had mine up to an indicated 110 once after I put a few miles on it.
I think they missed a trick here, they could have put a quick release mechanism on the radiator and have it double up as a fold out table...would be very handy when moto-camping. My word...what an eye sore.
I'll let the early adopters test the BSA service and reliability. The bike seems fine but no distribution for U.S. yet, I think they missed the excitement boat already.
Let's see, "a more quality bike than the RE Interceptor". Handles better, more urgantcy from the engine, finer fit & finish, lighter. Why am I not surprised? Perhaps because I've always been overwhelmed by how much the Royal Infield underwhelms me. The original Interceptor 750 back in the '60s was second rate to all the British 650s of the day and the reborn Interceptor is clearly second rate to the fine retro bikes from Triumph; and now BSA. If indeed the engine is from Rotax of Austria (a subsidieaty of Canadian Aero conglomerate Bombardier) it would be good news! Rotax designed the BMW F series vertical twins which are a real masterpiece.
I read the 'The Small Print' and surprised you needed to post that...but I guess some viewers go out of their way to nitpick. Awesome reviews keep it up:)
@@TheMissendenFlyer ...in this day and age it doesn't surprise me anymore. Just don't give those people the satisfaction of a reply . That's what I would do:) On another note, on your introductions you have a bike revving a couple times, what bike is that from?? BMW boxer?
Nice to see the Buckinghamshire countryside again! Kings Langley/Leighton Buzzard/Wolverton MK was my bike stomping ground in the 80s/90s and later (I presume this footage is from the Great Missenden area). I now live in South Brazil and due to a near fatal accident here in 2013, my biting days are over; but it's nice to see a great classic machine in a lovely setting!
I like this review - please keep on using this editing style - keep the frequent cuts between stationary and on the road - it makes the information you give really easy to follow
@@TheMissendenFlyer Didn't like it myself, very jarring. Either ride or stop and talk but don't flit between the two - your channel and choice though of course :)
Actually, I just watch Freddie’s latest video, and see that he’s getting a gold star to review soon, will be interesting to see what his take on it is.
Loved the review and very interesting to hear your thoughts compared to your Interceptor! Very nicely done hold both camera, mic and revving it for the exhaust sound check!:)
Good roadtest . Agree entirely .. I bought one 1st march 23 and love it . Ive got 3k on it now and it's loosened off great . Its far superior to the bargain bucket Enfield as in 4valve head and twin spark single and double overhead cams with shims . Brembo brakes etc etc . The list goes on . Fair price and I've gone up a tooth to 17 on the front . It's a KEEPER . 😎👍
Beautiful bike and very nice landscape. Appreciate your review of the Goldstar, particularly with your perspective as a Royal Enfield owner gave this survey a lot more meat than most reviewers. Good job, thank you.
As usual great review, very informative thanks. I’m unfortunately a bike snob but recently gave in to buying a scram 411 and frighteningly I’m enjoying it, and must admit I really like that BSA
This an encouraging review of the handling compared to another I've seen. In parts of the US even RE dealers are few and far between, so who knows when I'll ever see a BSA?
Hi Andy, getting my Legacy in silver this week. Really looking forward to having a play on this bike. Thanks for the video, helped me make my choice quite some time ago however now is the time to commit to the purchase! Great video BTW
I help build Street trackers and custom Sporters from the air cooled Triumph Bonnevilles 790/865s. A factory engine will put out from 48-55 ATW, once we are through they dyno at 90-110 ATW depending on specs. I have no doubt someone will take this gem and fully squeeze 60-80 ATW. We await their arrival.
We all lost trust in RE too with those plonkers at MotoGB - but RE have done the sensible thing and taken the distribution of the bike after their control. Nice review albeit I wou't be trading my T100 - also good to see you back in blighty!
A very nice review young man ....I wasn't expecting you to like this as much as you clearly do ....OK I will go and book a test ride soon ...I do like the black one
Hey TMF! Nice Scoop, well done that man!! Sounds like a lovely bike that seems to meet all of our expectations? Be interesting to see if BSA can keep their promises this time around but I’d be willing to part with my hard earned for one of these!
Really enjoyed that, your pleasure at riding the machine really came through. Makes a change from the "pro" reviewers somewhat condescending views......
Lovely review as always! Now as far as reliability of this machine is considered, I'm going to say the following.. talking about Mahindra's engines only, as an Indian I've grown up to see the Mahindra engines (in their pick-ups, jeeps, etc.) last about 500k kms (300k miles give or take some..) with bare minimum maintenance and if they can extrapolate that to the expected life span of a single cylinder single 600cc engine, I'd say we've got a winner, let's see :- )🤞🏼
Back in the " good old dsys" my younger brother got to ride a Triumph Bonnieville, my father rode a Matchless. ME..?....Busy in the military, married, always moving and , lol, a wife who liked riding on motorcycles BUT no....I couldn't. I missed out on a great age of motorcycles. Now, retired, antsy to ride a retro Brit bike. The BSA fits my style to ride....cruise back roads, enjoy the wind, scenery and enjoy the the freedom feel.
Nice review and glad you liked it , it seams to go well and the gear ratios spot on , with a long third gear . Thanks for your thoughts and the video .👍
I think you were mistaking the rocket gold star, (in video footage) for the actual goldstar other than that an excellent review
Yes - many people have told me the same Mick - my bad!! I'll pin your comment in the hope it'll stop even more people tellinbg me the same!
@@TheMissendenFlyer haha, I was just about to do that very thing, says he shouting at the telly, "that's a Rocket Gold Star!!!!!", 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@TheMissendenFlyerSo how does this machine fair today, one year on? Just wondered as there are very few fresh reviews on this here. Is it stone dead? I can't even say I've ever seen one on the road, only the one in my local showroom is all I've seen, and sat on. The price put me off, although there may be some used machines out there now, from the usually hugely disappointed types who must buy the latest model at all costs, even though they've never ridden it, let alone see what the issues are first! 😮
@@InvictaView It's all gone quiet hasn't it....not sure what's going on.
im 35 years old and honerstly i think i would rather blip around on something like this than a 200bhp monster. i like living
30 myself and I like the idea of the scrambler 1200
I got nicked on my h2sxse but ‘got off’ with a section 59. No more 200bhp monsters for me. Naked fun is the future.
Meanwhile my Speed Twin splits the difference and I get everything! Hehe
I’m 43 but totally agree, I test rode the Interceptor but found it uninspiring and certain parts felt cheep.
I’m looking forward to seeing the scrambler version…. 🤔
I owned a Triumph Rocket3 and traded it in for a Moto Guzzi V9. In my late 30s and i enjoy the smaller bikes more than the bigger engine bike. It is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than ride a fast bike slow.
I understand the frustrations with the delays in production etc, however id much rather a delayed product that is sorted than a basket case sold on time. Great vid as usual cheers.
Still excited to see this bike come out but sad that the company is not up to speed in communication nor production. You pointed this out clearly while sharing your positive thoughts on the bike itself. In spite of their failings I still want one.
Unfortunately just designing a good bike isn't enough is it - you need the support networks and everything else in place too to make a go of it....I hope they make it!
I wouldn't be too hard on them for not delivering the bike per their estimated time of availability considering the current worldwide situation. Communication would be appreciated though.
@@kingkrimson8771 Their communication was pretty woeful. Then deleted comments/banned people.
Really nice to see the BSA brand back on the road. I like your reviews. Good presentation and no verbal overload on specification.
Much appreciated!
The pipe looks great. "Lovely" is the word for this. Hope it comes to America soon. Can't wait for a comprehensive RE vs. BSA comparison video. Lots of Mahindra dealers in Texas, so here's hoping.
The original gold star had a lovely swept back down pipe which gave the bike a “racy” look.
By far and away the best and most comprehensive of the early forst impression reviews, thank you!
Thank you Laurie - appreciate that!
Nice bike, thanks for the straight up review. Whoa, the 60s BSA Gold Star weighed lot less than this new one, 170 kg vs 213kg which seems inexcusable.
It’s the same with the Bonneville range.
interesting, anyone knows whats adding the weight?
@@saturo_nipon I think it must be due partly to the items required to enable water cooling.
@@saturo_nipon Partly the electric starter motor. I'd prefer a kickstart option. They worked fine.
Think it's with 90% fuel
Also oil. Older bikes were usually minus all fluids
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Hi Andy , The old bike you showed is the ROCKET GOLDSTAR , A10 650cc based twin
The GOLD STAR 500cc single is the same frame and a DBD34 👍🙂
Thanks for putting me right!
I was shouting that a the telly too 😂. Perhaps they'll make one in the future to go up against the Triumph twins..?
@keithsbitsandpieces - Not strictly true; the Gold Star had a slightly modified bottom r/h loop to the frame to accommodate the oil pump. You could fit an A10/A7 engine in a Goldie frame, but not vice-versa.
Great review, looks like they have a winner here. Still love my 2012 T100, but if I was looking for a new bike, this new Goldstar would be at the top of my list.
I used to have a Suzuki single cylinder trial bike. It was very capable and strong for commuting and running around on. This is just the sort of bike I'd like to get back on 2 wheels with.
I like the detail of the fuel cap too.
Congrats on being one of the first reviewers of a production bike - Great review, TMF! And thank you for a balanced review, especially in comparison to the Interceptor and well done for not falling into the trap of bashing the BSA for ‘not being a proper BSA’. If I was in the market for another retro (already have a SpeedTwin) this would definitely make the shortlist. 👍
Cheers Mick, and so it should, other than the Triumphs this is definitely one of the best value retro bikes I’ve ridden to date.
@@TheMissendenFlyer better than the Speed Twin?
@@ianfutcher1518 Nowhere near!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Stuart Fillingham doesn’t seem too impressed with the new BSA company
@@ianfutcher1518 I'm none to impressed with him.
This review is why you are given all these bikes for testing superbly done very informative and asks the questions we want answers to
Many thanks
Well that’s a lovely thing for you to say - thank you very much!
I find myself agreeing with you on colour, their's something about the green one that does it for me.
Yes I love it....
The All Year Motorcyclist said it was marvellous and splendiferous.
Yeah! Marvellous!
Good
Nice review. One import thing they omitted from the original is the centre stand. Much better when one considers maintenance and long term storage. Bike also resembles the A65 Star Twin from the early 60s. Likely see a RE esk 650 twin version down the road. Cheers
GREAT Review.
10/10.
I want one!!!
Cannot wait till I see it in the flesh.
Thank YO.
(Australia)
Thanks for watching!
RE has made good work in convincing the bike world that "made in India" is no longer anything to shy away from. So BSA should have no big worries there, provided that they deliver the goods. They´ve had a rocky start, propably a lot to do with the pandemic but if their product is good enough they will win in the end. Well done to be one of the first to get this quick review out on the tube, and it was interesting to be sure. Hope you get one for a longer period, there are many of us who follow your channel who might be in the market for this bike.
Cheers Robert, I’m interested in this bike, so I’m guessing that my viewers are too!
The engine is a Rotax .Not made in India.
@@deltabluesdavidraye I think it's only R&D there.
Yes, these early units are shipped from India. Some stories say they are however building a factory in Birmingham?? Since they are under the TVS umbrella apparently, when they come to the US I'd like to see a TVS model come too.... They already build the BMW G310 I believe, so why not offer the TVS sister model stateside as well? but that's a different story.
@@deltabluesdavidraye But Rotax does have factories in China and Mexico. Their aircraft engines still made in Austria, but doubtful that motorcycle engines are.
Good on ya Brits!
I've admired BSA since going through my Dad's old Cycle World Magazines from the 60's.
Excellent review and very well done on the superfast editing and publishing. It shows how well you have nailed the format so that you are able to clip and insert the right bits in the right places within your riding commentary. Also is it a coincidence that doing the exhaust sound demonstration you showed us a second set of BSA? 😃
Cheers Mick - they only delivered the bike to me at 1:15 this afternoon - so this was quite an effort to get filmed, edited, uploaded and optimised by 7:30pm!! Not sure what you're referring to re "a second set of BSA"??
@@TheMissendenFlyer You are the owner and operator, by your own admission, of a pair of British Small Arms which you used at full stretch to operate the throttle and hold the mic by the exhaust simultaneously!!
@@mickthemaverick5998 😂
Love the look and now I think I'll get my order in thanks for makeing my mind up.( Love the green)
A decent front mudguard!! Hurrah 😃… as well as that common sense detail I think they’ve certainly got the retro look pretty much spot on, as a retro it looks great. Nice little details along with some modern conveniences like the USB sockets 👍
I also registered interest over a year ago and have never heard a thing...as a result I have buyer anxiety and appreciate you bringing that up, on the plus side the scrambler version of this would be exactly what I'm looking for so I may end up waiting till next year now anyway.
Yes it’s all gone quite quiet again hasn’t it…
I fully understand the urge to compare with interceptor, but they are really quite different imo, not only in layout, (single vs twin), but the fact that this is a blatent retro (that's OK), whereas I always feel the interceptor stands alone as just a decent no frills proper motorcycle.
Glad BSA invited you to review it first, as always very good review. Thanks.
Much appreciated!
I hope they do well, it takes a lot of balls & money to get to this stage.
Just to chime in a little, at @6:48 , the power figures of these new modern classic machines such as the bsa, interceptor, w800 etc etc are deliberately aimed at the A2 license market where youre limited to a maximum horsepower of 47bhp. Youre right that in 60 odd years an increase in a couple horsepower isnt brilliant, but it certainly isnt a point to discredit the machine! :) although yes i am now 24 years old and am riding full power bikes, the idea of more poke from something like the goldstar is appealing, but when i was 19/20 looking at all these bikes i cannot ride because of power figures, the introduction of these A2 compatible bikes was a godsend! It encourages new and younger riders to get on to gorgeous machines with adequate power to start their motorcycling journey!
When i was looking at bikes when i was on my a2 license, best options were restricting full power bikes (lame, and dodgy for insurance at times) or some greatly uninspiring sports bikes which i wasnt into at all, much more into the retro malarkey lol
Anyway, long winded way of saying the power isnt remarkable, but it definitely is a positive for the new generations of riders getting on some beautiful bikes
Yes, very good point well made.
I definitely favour the Royal Enfield 650 twin.
A bit more power, smoother, cheaper ££s and to me, a much nicer looking 'fake' classic too.
Great review by the 'Flyer', shame about the bike! I've been eagerly awaiting this machine having owned 2 BSAs, back in the day. Finally got to see one in the 'flesh' today and sit astride it. Very disappointed!! The chassis and wheels look ok but the engine and exhaust, are they serious??? To those who didn't ride or live in the era of old BSAs, Triumphs, Nortons and, dare I say, Enfields, this new BSA engine looks smart enough but absolutely nothing like an old BSA lump. I don't own a Royal Enfield but their 2 newest engines, the 650 twin and the new J-Platform 350 single, look like they could have been plucked right out of the 1950s or 1960s, modern internals in a very convincing classic styled engine casing ....... brilliant!
@@PAGallagher With whiners like you. No wonder they went out of motorcycle business........🤮
Great review brings back a lot of good memories i had a Bantam and a C15 so good to see the brand again many thanks Mike.
Nice to know you’ve got hold of a production model at long last. I think dealers will be a problem short term, which could affect servicing & warranty claims. The finish looks good, but have to be honest I hate that enormous radiator spoils the whole look of the bike. One thing I like about the Interceptor is I can service it all myself. Oh & the original BSA you showed is a 650 Rocket Gold Star twin. Safe riding all
Lovley looking bike. Great review, as always. Looks good value seeing how other manufacturers are asking.
Well, I'm actually pleasantly impressed. I like it a heck of a lot more than I thought I would and I think I'd have to plump for the green one too Andy if i'm honest. Great review as always ☺
Well done old mate for getting that out so fast. Comprehensive first impressions. Looking at some of the comments, I would leave that 'small print' section on screen a tad longer!!
I like to make it tough for the people it’s aimed at (not you I might add of course)…
Great review. I wonder if cylinder count preference is based on what you grew up with. In the 1960s, all the bikes I lusted after were singles or twins, and since my first bike was a BSA C15, I’m looking to relive my yoof. I’m going to have to get one. 😊
this is as much a BSA as anything ith 2 wheels and a motor is... you do know this is made in India, right?
Wow Mr flyer you spoil us with these extra videos. What an extra video then the BSA Goldstar motorbike. I was in two mines when I heard BSA was back in production. Remember the old BSA A10 Golden Flash my dads favourite motorbike it was amazing motorbike. I was worried that new BSA would not be the same. However only future can tell on that one. I do like the classic looks of the BSA Goldstar, so thanks for this video.
My pleasure!
Great job 👍..! To give you a bit of background about Mahindra, as a viewer from here in India, they're the biggest tractor makers worldwide. They've been in the car manufacturing sector for quite a while... But until I guess the last decade, their cars were no good. They tried their hands with the motorcycle market, didn't work well. Further they acquired "Jawa" & reintroduced their modern interpretations(300cc units rivalling the RE 350s). Initial lots were plagued with fit & finish issues, with the updated models.. They got it right. However they never set the sales chart on fire, RE took the game far away from them.
Thanks for that....we'll see how they handle this one! I wish them the best of luck, I'd love to see them succeed.
shame we didn't get the Jawa over here in the UK.
Congrats on the review coup, enjoyed your take on it and your enthusiasm for the bike comes across well. I think your target audience is perfect for this bike.
Re late delivery, I prefer to think that they were holding back the bike until it's properly ready, but time will tell. Re their communications, I guess in some (most?) situations the less said the better. I'm looking forward to a test ride once it makes its way down to the Antipodes. However much I like it, I don't think I'll be swapping my GS for one, it would have to be a second bike.
100% agree with the gear change down in to first. I found myself wondering if I'd changed or found a false neutral. You soon get used to it and just learn to ignore it though.
I would have liked adjustable levers too but no doubt they will become available.
Worth mentioning you can easily remove (and replace) what's nowadays called a "DB Killer" in the end of the silencer which lets out a bit more noise 😉
Also. It's completely intuative and easy to ride. Just get on and go, no nasty surprises. As the saying goes... Like a hand in a (very comfy) glove.
Apart from that I'd completely agree with your review and, as you said, the bike exceeded my expectations. So much so... I put a deposit down.
For what it's worth. some time ago I bought a Street Twin over the Meteor as it was better quality but I actually prefer the BSA to both.
Final comment, as none of the reviewers can admit to it on here. But she hits 80 with ease, 90 no problem but I chose to go no faster as the bike I was riding only had a few miles on the clock. Oh... And I was wearing an open face helmet. All done on a private road of course 🙈🙉🙊
Cool! Enjoy your new bike!
What a coup to get your hands on one TMF! A very honest review coming from a RE owner.
Thank you Bill - I have no particular loyalty to any brands and is just my opinion, it feels better than the RE to me (but I still love the RE!!)
I wasn't a fan of just shoving the old BMW F650 Rotax engine in a classic style bike, but having thought about it again it would be pretty cool if BSA made a Himalayan rival and put this engine in there.
But those Rotax 650s are so nice. I have the original carb version and a fuel injected one in the 650CS. The real shame is that the power is not 50hp like in my CS. That bike is a surprisingly smooth and fast bike with an engine that likes to rev.
@@gregorbabic7664 I think 45bhp or whatever this bike has is still "enough" considering something like the KLR650 only has 40. Would be very nice to have something equivalent available in the UK tbh.
Hey buddy, thank you for the excellent review one the new BSA motor bike, and congratulations on being one of the first to get to ride it around. So tell us all, anyone commenting on it when you are in town with it? Would like to get their view of BSA back in the road ways.
Hey Andy, nice review, I've been anxious to hear your thoughts on this bike. Glad, they slimed down the oversized exhaust some, but it would be even better in chrome instead of the satin stainless look. The other thing I really dislike though, is the taillight; it looks like such an afterthought! A proper Lucas style light on the rear fender would be so much better!
About time someone mentioned the tail light. Spoils the look IMHO. Otherwise a great bike.
Probably an easy fix 👍
I really enjoyed that.
The review was nice, but the ride was special. I grew up around there in the late 60s, so seeing you riding through Gt Missingden, turning left down the Rignals Rd, passing Kings Lane at the bottom of Cobblers Hill (home). Was marvellous. Even the old forge and thatch cottage below Little Hampden are still there.
Thanks so much.
Liked the bike as well.
Plenty more of the area on my channel!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I do watch you and always try to recognise places. But that was right on my path.
Thanks again. 😄
Really interesting first impressions review. Look forward to when you can do a longer term review. BSA need to follow through with their dealer network and customer service. As a previous owner of an Interceptor I'd be very interested in a test ride.
I think you'd like it Simon.....
Colchester Kawasaki, are the dealer for North Essex, they also do Royal Enfield, so if you are close you can check them out too
Hiya Andy, another excellent video, Not realised a new BSA was due, pleasantly pleased with the results, great bike. I used to have the 441 Shooting Star for many years, the Original 1969 model, widely travelled loved it in my Youth. I now have a 1993 Goldwing and new Tiger 900. Love your touring Videos, especially the foreign adventures, awesome Scenery etc.
Like to see some more flying exploits, even if not as popular.
Keep up the great work thanks for sharing.
Dave. in Sunny Lancashire.
Thanks for the feedback Dave - delighted you enjoy my efforts!
Like the big 1 cyl. engine (should have been aircooled though), and the dials - but the RE looks better - and aircooled is the way to go for this kind of bikes.
Fair do's! Thanks for watching....
I understand people wanting the aircooled look but realistically, liquid cooled is so much better because the engine can run within a much tighter temperature range which in turn means better fueling, more power and less emissions.
It’s practically mandatory to achieve Euro 5
@@stevebolton8471 RE seem to manage just fine with only air cooling on their J series (349 cc) engines. Although they claim they are 'air and oil cooled'.
@@onecookieboy The 45 hp this bike runs has absolutely nothing to do with it being liquid cooled. If they wanted it could easily pull at least 60hp and stay within Euro 5. They chose 45hp to hit the A2 license market, which is the exact same for the Royal Enfield 650 bikes.
Husqvarna gets 74hp from its 700cc single in the VItpilen/Svartpilen 701
An up to date comment.... me and my brother went to the BSA Roadshow at Bridge Exeter, had a test ride, and was so impressed we bought one each, even our friend with 2 1200 Bonnivilles in his shed liked them. one was in the showroon, and one was in the crate in storage. Picking them up 2nd Sept with 73 plates one letter different. Well impressed.
Cool!
@TheMissendenFlyer Both the chrome Legacys
That BSA scramble thing is the one :P
Yes I'm keen on that too!
Really really pleased to see such a good and positive review of this and yes I want one to sit alongside my ThruxtonR and GS1250. I get all the criticisms around delays and communication but to be fair to BSA they did get hit, like everyone did, by Covid and the impact on Supply Chains etc etc. Fingers crossed its all up from here for them and that their medium to long term plan to manufacture here in England does materialise.
I would tidy up the rear end, the light and plate needs to be higher up in my opinion, and maybe change the mirrors for bar end mirrors, and a shorter exhaust.
Great review, thanks TMF! 😀
My pleasure!
Very very nice! Great review, congrats on being one of the first to get your hands on one. Your riding gear complements the bike perfectly. It really does look like autumnal weather.
Cheers Sue - I like to wear the appropriate gear for the type of bike I’m riding…
Another good review of a bike I'd not really paid too much attention to so far. An interesting alternative to the RE Interceptor 650 for sure. My money would go on a used '2019 Triumph Street Twin/ Scrambler 900 as I think it looks the best (personal preference obviously), has more power/torque than both RE & BSA (it is a 900 though so should have😉) and would be a more useful/expansive motorcycle that would work for a bit of everything including touring etc... Keep up the good work 😉👍👍
Will do - thanks for watching!
You're doubtless right. But I'm afraid I just could not buy a Triumph no matter how good it may be.
It's the whole brand thing: where the T shirts are as important as the bike.
British Harley Davidson.
Just puts me right off.
I'd still be putting my £ RE's way for a nice Interceptor
Glad you and Mrs. Flyer made it home safely. Great review and good luck to BSA hope they do well.
Looks like it's a good bike overall and very competitive. As you say just the reliability of the makers is still in doubt.
The management is done by Anupam Thareja. Basically this guy is buddy to Sidhart Lal (Owner of Royal Enfield) both used to ride together thus a big name in Indian motorcycling community. He seprated from Royal Enfield, wanted to do something of his own. Joined hands with Mahindra ( those guys are like Royal Enfield of cars in India, where they can just sell it by name). So i have high hopes from this colab. Since the company has a motorcycling culture in factory equal to Royal Enfield.
why did you double space. are you in uni?
It is index a beautiful bike. And thanks Mr Flyer for a nice first test. Looking forward to see BSA in Sweden 👍
Thanks for watching!
Nice job on your first Premier! I dislike how even a single cylinder thumper, which will probably do very few miles over it's life, is forced to be liquid cooled. This while seeing a multitude of Contrails in the sky! I'm curious how the small plane industry is being impacted by climate laws. Cheers and thanks for the review.
Lequid cooling is required for the bikes to be sold outside England,say India a far hotter climate with 11 plus compression ratio, which is a big problem for Interceptor in India.
@@rajkumarpaul70 thanks for the info. I figured it was to enable the lean fuel needed for emissions.
By far the best and most detailed review on the BSR. Love the comparisons between the interceptor, cheers.
Much appreciated!
The Interceptor does about 60mph at the top of 2nd gear, I wish you'd show us the gearing on this for comparison. When I shop around for bikes rpms at highway speeds are crucial info.
Understandable as I do the same. I found the interceptor (in my case the Continental GT) to be sublime and smooth on the highway. 80 mile an hour is around 5K RPMs (7k redline) and it is smooth as can be. Feels like the bike doesn’t struggle at all whereas it’s a bit vibey at 55 and 75. Can cruise at 90 if you want, but at that point you’re really twisting the throttle. Had mine up to an indicated 110 once after I put a few miles on it.
Nice. I think I'll wait and see how they develop though. Like the jacket too!
I think they missed a trick here, they could have put a quick release mechanism on the radiator and have it double up as a fold out table...would be very handy when moto-camping. My word...what an eye sore.
It could be refined, yes. But what about that enormous seam below the tank...almost as if someone forgot to clip it off.
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Nice format - Ride, detail, ride, detail, ride, detail etc.
Glad you lkiked it Graham - editing nightmare but I like the mix too.....
I'll let the early adopters test the BSA service and reliability. The bike seems fine but no distribution for U.S. yet, I think they missed the excitement boat already.
Yes that false start didn't help them did it....but it is a good bike and once word spreads, providing it's reliable and the dealers service good....
You’re a happy chap aren't you.
The Goldie has come home.
@@DavidT19 😜
Would like to see a (2 up) pillion review on this BSA Gold Star, but well done on a good review it's got me thinking about one.
Let's see, "a more quality bike than the RE Interceptor". Handles better, more urgantcy from the engine, finer fit & finish, lighter. Why am I not surprised? Perhaps because I've always been overwhelmed by how much the Royal Infield underwhelms me. The original Interceptor 750 back in the '60s was second rate to all the British 650s of the day and the reborn Interceptor is clearly second rate to the fine retro bikes from Triumph; and now BSA. If indeed the engine is from Rotax of Austria (a subsidieaty of Canadian Aero conglomerate Bombardier) it would be good news! Rotax designed the BMW F series vertical twins which are a real masterpiece.
Yes, I believe it’s the same Rotax engine as was in the BMW.
Agree with you about the original Interceptor, they wasnt called 'Oil Fields' for nothing. My 1960 BSA A10 is a much better bike than a 1960's RE.
Not sure I will trade in my Enfield, but will keep my eye on the Brand.
I read the 'The Small Print' and surprised you needed to post that...but I guess some viewers go out of their way to nitpick. Awesome reviews keep it up:)
You’d be amazed what some people get upset about John!
@@TheMissendenFlyer ...in this day and age it doesn't surprise me anymore. Just don't give those people the satisfaction of a reply . That's what I would do:) On another note, on your introductions you have a bike revving a couple times, what bike is that from?? BMW boxer?
Nice to see the Buckinghamshire countryside again! Kings Langley/Leighton Buzzard/Wolverton MK was my bike stomping ground in the 80s/90s and later (I presume this footage is from the Great Missenden area). I now live in South Brazil and due to a near fatal accident here in 2013, my biting days are over; but it's nice to see a great classic machine in a lovely setting!
It is indeed and out toward Princes Risborough - sorry to hear of your accident…..
I like this review - please keep on using this editing style - keep the frequent cuts between stationary and on the road - it makes the information you give really easy to follow
Yes I like this format too - bugger to film and edit mind you!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Didn't like it myself, very jarring. Either ride or stop and talk but don't flit between the two - your channel and choice though of course :)
@@arenalife Yeah, as I said Ilike this format, I think it makes for a much more interesting video so will stick with it...
My pausing skills are elite! Nice vid Flyer! It's been awhile since I post on one of your videos. Been busy!
Great to have you back - don't be a stranger!
Looks an awesome bike, Freddie would be proud of you. Cheers Andy great review as always.
Actually, I just watch Freddie’s latest video, and see that he’s getting a gold star to review soon, will be interesting to see what his take on it is.
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes viewed that too, think his down at Colchester kawasaki this week doing his review.
Had a Triumph Trophy 250 when I was a kid. Have a Harley Nightster now. The new Bezzer is a very attractive package, I would love to own! Thx!
Loved the review and very interesting to hear your thoughts compared to your Interceptor! Very nicely done hold both camera, mic and revving it for the exhaust sound check!:)
Wonder where I got that from! ;0)
It really does look and sound like the real deal. Amazing
Was wondering when you'd review this, congratulations on being the first yt bike review
Cheers - thanks for watching!
Good roadtest . Agree entirely .. I bought one 1st march 23 and love it . Ive got 3k on it now and it's loosened off great . Its far superior to the bargain bucket Enfield as in 4valve head and twin spark single and double overhead cams with shims . Brembo brakes etc etc . The list goes on . Fair price and I've gone up a tooth to 17 on the front . It's a KEEPER . 😎👍
Great to hear!
It's not just BSA but all automotive production is in a right old muddle. A challenging time to launch a new model. Love the bsa.
Very true....
great honest review andy well done and thanks
Thanks for the review! Not my kinda bike but I do enjoy your videos as always
Thanks Rutger - always good to have you along!
Beautiful bike and very nice landscape. Appreciate your review of the Goldstar, particularly with your perspective as a Royal Enfield owner gave this survey a lot more meat than most reviewers. Good job, thank you.
My pleasure, Richard, thanks for watching!
As usual great review, very informative thanks. I’m unfortunately a bike snob but recently gave in to buying a scram 411 and frighteningly I’m enjoying it, and must admit I really like that BSA
Me too!
Very well produced video Andy, Thank you.
Thank you!
Very nice demo. Put it right on top of my must have/watch list. Let’s see if and when this sales in Germany.
This an encouraging review of the handling compared to another I've seen. In parts of the US even RE dealers are few and far between, so who knows when I'll ever see a BSA?
Hi Andy, getting my Legacy in silver this week. Really looking forward to having a play on this bike. Thanks for the video, helped me make my choice quite some time ago however now is the time to commit to the purchase! Great video BTW
Thank you and enjoy your new bike - how exciting!
I help build Street trackers and custom Sporters from the air cooled Triumph Bonnevilles 790/865s. A factory engine will put out from 48-55 ATW, once we are through they dyno at 90-110 ATW depending on specs. I have no doubt someone will take this gem and fully squeeze 60-80 ATW. We await their arrival.
We all lost trust in RE too with those plonkers at MotoGB - but RE have done the sensible thing and taken the distribution of the bike after their control. Nice review albeit I wou't be trading my T100 - also good to see you back in blighty!
Cheers Rob, you’ll see me back in Canada tomorrow!
A very nice review young man ....I wasn't expecting you to like this as much as you clearly do ....OK I will go and book a test ride soon ...I do like the black one
I wasn’t expecting too either….
Wow! nice! That's one fancy Nighthawk 450! Great vid brother.
Hey TMF! Nice Scoop, well done that man!! Sounds like a lovely bike that seems to meet all of our expectations? Be interesting to see if BSA can keep their promises this time around but I’d be willing to part with my hard earned for one of these!
Really enjoyed that, your pleasure at riding the machine really came through. Makes a change from the "pro" reviewers somewhat condescending views......
Well as I often say Steve, I’m not a “pro”, I’m just an enthusiast like you.
Terrific review, of what appears to be a Terrific motorcycle, good luck BSA!
Thanks for the review and that jacket 😍 looks like a lovely piece of kit Andy 👍
Lovely review as always! Now as far as reliability of this machine is considered, I'm going to say the following.. talking about Mahindra's engines only, as an Indian I've grown up to see the Mahindra engines (in their pick-ups, jeeps, etc.) last about 500k kms (300k miles give or take some..) with bare minimum maintenance and if they can extrapolate that to the expected life span of a single cylinder single 600cc engine, I'd say we've got a winner, let's see :- )🤞🏼
Let's hope so eh!
Back in the " good old dsys" my younger brother got to ride a Triumph Bonnieville, my father rode a Matchless. ME..?....Busy in the military, married, always moving and , lol, a wife who liked riding on motorcycles BUT no....I couldn't. I missed out on a great age of motorcycles.
Now, retired, antsy to ride a retro Brit bike. The BSA fits my style to ride....cruise back roads, enjoy the wind, scenery and enjoy the the freedom feel.
What a Beautiful bike I would buy 1 tomorrow very impressed Andy 🇬🇧👍
Nice review and glad you liked it , it seams to go well and the gear ratios spot on , with a long third gear . Thanks for your thoughts and the video .👍
Finally,on the road, looks great,sounds great, love it, Thank You for the early review.
Really was my plesure!
Better than I expected. There is a lack of this kind of bike, it's like back to basics and legit.
Hope they get a dealer in North East UK soon looks like another good stable mate for my others nice review 👍
Nicely done TMF and a welcome Tuesday night bonus.
Cheers Cl! Back to the tour tomorrow morning....
Lovley looking bike. At a really good price. especially seeing the prices of other brands.