I really hope this bike does well. The world needs a large displacement single, the loss of the RE Classic 500 left a hole that the 350 doesn't quite fill. The effort to build a comfortable, capable, classically styled bike should be applauded.
I don't know. Been awfully happy with my modded Classic 350 with the Kent cam. Adds 6 hp at the wheel. 1-2 less than the 500? Now my track-prepped FT500 Ascot is another story...
@@GrampsD63 Yes, but the 350 has a speed limiter. I had cash in hand to ride a meteor home, road it and toped out at about 70. That killed the deal for me.
I'm an ex classic 350 owner, I now have a goldstar and have just over 1000 miles on it. You nailed it when you said it's basically a classic 350 but with that more useable level of power. Nit looks great, rides great, and I've had no issues with it. Nit absolutely love my goldstar, and I'm finding your series of reviews fasenating. Fair, unbiased, non of the ridiculous brand snobbery which seems reserved expressly for BSA. Truly great stuff, I look forward to the full review and maybe some maintenance/accessories (in the fullness of time).
That was the best, I've seen! Just as motorcycles, used to be. It picks up the styling cues, of the original, but by modern standards. Keep up the good work. I love your reviews!
There's an updated service schedule, so the first and subsequent valve clearance checks are 14,500 miles. BSA sell a specific paddock stand for around £80 for chain maintenance and wheel removal, and Classic Bike Racks do a passenger grab rail for £55. I can't praise my BSA enough. It is what it is, and that's a cracking modern classic with a stonking single at a great price.
@@LumpyCarbs @LumpyCarbs yep found the one you're referring to and compared it to the one I downloaded a couple of weeks ago. They are completely different, no 500mile valve check and they have halved the oil change interval. thats with fully synth oil too very odd! None of it makes sense, second service is 3000 miles after first and third service is 4000 miles after second service, and 6000km = about 3750 miles not 3000!
I sat down and thought about it, and I realized that I've only owned one bike that was truly "modern". I consistently find myself drawn to a round headlight, neutral ergonomics, and a novel engine character.
Thank you, Stuart. 100% agree with all we’ve said there….. A lot of modern motorcyclist are in trend in the latest gizmo the fastest technical abilities of the machine, et cetera, some of those people, cannot understand why someone might desire another motorcycle that looks old style and just brides differently to the rocket ships motorbikes or the huge adventure style motorbikes (don’t get me wrong they are all great machines), it’s good to make your choice and enjoy what you have for whatever criteria you made your decision to acquire that motorcycle and of course the happiness that it brings you. I’m definitely one of those guys that makes up his mind for himself and not what everybody else says I should do including the manufacturers … Thank you again brilliant chat and review
Really enjoyed this one thanks Stu. I had my hesitations but jumped on a deal for a second hand one around Sept last year, I've enjoyed so much since. Going over to ABR Festival and looking at pretty much every brand's modern classic offerings I came away happy with the bike I own. That I didn't expect!
That was an enjoyable review on the BSA and I would like to say the engine would go on for ever. My last job was working on this engine in a BMW frame and the riders were animals with no respect. I liked the bike so much I bought one and have enjoyed every ride. So to sum up Stuart keep up the good work and await your next review on any bike that you get next.
Nice unbiased report, pointing out the benefits of "normal bikes" as we used to know them. Everyday bikes where you feel comfortable and still go on long tours when needed. Not enough of those today, unfortunately. When are you getting one?😅 Lack of a centerstand option is certainly a big mistake as with many bikes today, in favour of ground clearance, weight, and costs.
Absolutely loving my Midnight Black, still in running in kms, have had the stalling issue, the engine light etc - but man I really love it. I smile all through the ride.
Stuart, I'm a Welder myself, frame welds could be better appearance wise ( slightly bigger build up ) but it's been MIG welded the frame tubing and it'll be fine, ok bending the frame tube it would look nicer and maybe cheeper to make, but as i say she'll be ok.
I have been watching as many of your videos as possible even if I had no interest in the bike simply because I love the way you do your reviews. I just bought a new Triumph scrambler 400x and love it but now you have me also wanting this BSA Goldstar and a few models of the Royal Enfields. I didn’t even know they made this BSA and I’ve been telling people that my Triumph is the new Goldstar without knowing they were back in business. I I do my best to suffer through all the commercials so you get your well deserved payouts from those adds.I have decided that you actually are a genius. Thank you for all of your time you spend making these reviews and you simply are the Best out there.
A really enjoyable review and video Stu and from a slightly more in depth and certainly a more relevant angle than I've seen previously regarding the Gold Star. Really good. I really love this bike and now totally 'get it' too, thanks to your video's. The only let down is that it isn't air cooled but that's just me but it is a big single and this is a huge plus for me. It would have been all to easy for BSA to make a 'Golden Flash' twin but they didn't and because of this brave decision they have a bike that is out on its own, especially now that a big single 'Classic' from Royal Enfield seems unlikely.
Another cracking video and review Stuart. Well, I’ve seen your 2 previous reviews and I’m off shopping next week with my current wife. I’ll probably part x the v strom, but I’ve never felt comfortable on it anyway. I also miss the feel of the bikes I rode in the 1970s- comfortable, easy to ride and a smile on the face because it’s what motorcycles were about. Totally agree re press reviews. It’s a lot like mainstream press on other issues, for example covid related restrictions by Government. Anyway, I want one.
An excellent review from an independent viewpoint that is relevant to most motorcycle riders if they are honest with themselves. Motorcycling from this perspective is so much more enjoyable. I am sure there will be a lot of interest in this bike as a result of this video. Top work again Stu.
Cracking review Stu, like you I wasn’t too keen at first, I liked the overall look but was not very impressed with things like the transfers on the engine and the big ugly usb lump on the bars, little bits that could have been done better in my view but as time has gone on it’s growing on me and I will have to get a test ride on one. Good to see a review that involved a pillion, something that is lacking on practicality every other review on TH-cam and yet a very important thing for so many of us. All the best buddy 👍
You were correct in your initial impression. It's a fugly bike with that big stupid looking radiator and plastic bits and decals stuck onto the engine. The R.E. Interceptor 650 is a far nicer motorcycle.
Hi Stu, I'm glad to hear your unbiased commentary on your BSA experience. I also love the way you compare it to Royal Enfield and Triumph. I too remember back in the day when a bike was a bike, or as you called it a general all arounder and honestly, that's the most fun I had motorcycling. Keep up the good work and enjoy the ride.
Locking to the right side too: same with the BMW F650 which uses the same Rotax engine. ...which I like a lot! The BSA has aditionally the classic look and seems (!) to be better for aditional passenger. Looking forward seeing the BSA in Germany
I enjoyed this review, and I’m not even a biker! As always, your considered analysis of detail shines through, and having the bike on test for a decent amount of time gives credence to your conclusions. Looks like a good choice for the channel, plenty of interest, and suits pillion inclusion on your days out etc.
The hardest thing for BSA is to give access to people to buy one of these. Find dealers who are ready to have a demobike or two and see to it that there are new bikes to be had without waiting a year for it. The market is bad right now, even for established dealers. So they need to take their time, be prepared to operate with a loss for propably quite some time. Maybe invent new ways to sell bikes. If they can do this for the longer haul they propably will get there in the end, that bike has the looks and also quality to attract us greybeards and it is mostly us who buy bikes. There is enough muscle in the parent company, time will tell if there is patience. But a great bike, and a worthy review!
This sounds like a great bike with a top engine. I'm looking forward to the Scrambler. Both the Gold Star and the Scrambler would make perfect long-distance bikes. I went long distances on my XT500 in the '80s. By the way, my KTM 390 Duke's steering lock works both ways. First-class review, Stuart. Very enjoyable. Nick
What a superb review, I really enjoy your videos with excellent photography and a unique, clearly understandable, measured and intelligent presenting style which sadly lacking on youtube. Your musings and discussion on the little details which other reviewers do not cover fascinate me, the steering lock issue, biased to the right or left for instance would never have crossed my mind until the niggling situation arose, very good point. Got me thinking, my 74 Z1 can lock either way like the BSA, so this feature was thought of all those years back but disappeared on other bikes I have owned! Your review has prompted me to book a test ride, if I can find one, very tempted to buy!
I bought Interceptor 650 15 months ago here in India. I like it but BSA Goldstar test ride alludes more comfort, braking confidence, easy manuverability and handling. Also, lower seat of BSA compared to INTY helped my 5'7" height in controlling the BSA. My friend who also own the INTY told me its mainly due to 150/60 R17 rear Perilli tyres instead of the 130/70 R18 ones on INTY, and suggested the same rear rim and tyre mod for the INTY to experience similar kind of ride as the BSA. What's yout take on this mod of shifting to 150/60R17 on INTY for added braking, stability ?
As ever a detailed and balanced review. The comparison you make with an upscale Classic 350 makes me wonder where you see the BSA in comparison to the Shotgun 650. An extra star awarded for the pillion passenger. 😂
I really like this bike. I am going to get a test ride. Thanks for a very detailed review. I've always had singles and twins because that's what I grew up on and all I ever needed. I have my twin pot BM roadster set up on the soft side it soaks up the bumps and handles well enough for me. I like to sit as upright as possible and just enjoy the ride. Rushing along makes things fly by but you lose the experience of the journey in a blur.
Stuart, your reviews are definitely the best and most in depth that I regularly read! By the way, there is an aftermarket centre stand although it is very pricey due to the qty being made.
Correction, the BSA Gold Star 650 that I rode in 1959 was an air cooled parallel twin. It had a sprung drivers seat and a separate pillion seat. Sprung seats had padding and were more comfortable than the modern sponge rubber seats. The head light was not bright, and my modern scooter’s lights are no better. The BSA 500 was a single cylinder. With Australia’s long highways these bikes are great for touring in the country, cruising at 100 kph. The pegs are better positioned for rough roads when one may choose to stand on the pegs.
@@dayvidmathews1182 Thanks.✅ I was 15 at the time in 1959. To me it was just a BSA 650. My mates took me to their family farm. At night we went to the movies on his father's Brough Superior. At 95 mph the electrics became a problem, the 1100cc V twin would not do the ton with two on board. Even then it was a collectors item. I'm 80 and now ride a light weight Honda ADV-150 scooter, with CVT transmission. No longer take a passenger or ride at night. But I still ride. What I loved most was no car ever beat us at the lights, and the sense of freedom. God I love motorbikes.
Excellent detailed review. Nice that you have included your Doris in the channel, she definitely compliments it. I think BSA have pretty much hit the nail on the head.
I have a Kawasaki KLR650. It is a single cylinder water cooled 650cc motorcycle with a 5 speed gearbox. It has no centrestand. The engine is DOHC with shims under buckets for the tappets. I took it to the Kawasaki dealer to have the tappets checked and adjusted at 25,000 kms. The dealer told me that the tappets were still within spec and therefore none of the shims were replaced. I took it to the dealer, as he has a stock of secondhand shims and the mechanical knowledge to do the job. I use a bike lift for changing tyres and lubing the chain.
Back when the Goldstar was first announced, I was really excited about the possibility of it becoming available. As time went on it seemed like it just wouldn't make it, so I forgot about it and purchased my INT650 which I'm very satisfied with. I hope it becomes successful --- In that perfect world where the number of motorcycles you can have is n+1, I would get one in a heartbeat.
@@renwick_ro67267 It's best to hold your judgement until you see one in the metal and have given it a proper ride. If you admire mechanical contrivances, you just might change your mind. Cheers.
@@renwick_ro67267 I think part of the problem is the name "Goldstar". The original was a lean bare bones leg breaking beautiful woman with a very bad temper. If they called the new one the "CozyStar", people would accept it for what it is. Put that big thumper in a Rickman Metisse frame.... Now you're talking. Aint life great?
Nice review Stuart. Good to hear you have used it for pillion work. I checked the BSA website and there is no grab rail mentioned as an accessory. Some very good deals about which may upset the first owners. Although as I write this I have just noticed that someone has said a rail is on Classic bike racks. Just looked at my local dealer website and they have a lovely R100rs for sale... Just this morning I had a look at the dealers in Ipswich, Triumph, Suzuki, KTM, Kawasaki offerings and just looked at the seats and prices as i use my 14 year old RT1200 as my commuter and For the price, the 650 looks right. (I have an original Commando 850 and I suppose the nearest to it is a Bonnie but I road one a few years back and it was sooooo boring. T120 was nice. V7 looks a little small for me, which may put me off the BSA.
Stated riding in the 60's. My last road bike then was a 61 Bonnie. After marriage n kids, started trial then enduro till 93. 1994, bought my first BMW RS. Then 3 more and 4 RT's all new. Hankered for a GS but an airhead. Found a 1996 PD Classic in 2019 absolutely love to ride it, BUT at 78 it's getting a bit 'big' so as soon as that's sold, it's a Goldie for me. Great Vid Stuart.
Thanks for this very thorough review, the best untill now in all the episodes. Another bike on my list. So for me it would be a 650, the shotgun, super meteor, the goldstar, but... i still wait for hopefully the enfield classic 650. A lot of testriding to do, ha ha. Again, thank you so much uncle Stu. Love from Holland and regards to Paula.
I had a BSA goldstar back in the day, it sounded great but went on fire with smoke coming out between the tank and the seat, right next to the family jewels at 60mph. Luckily it went out. Rewired it and sold it on for a new Kawasaki. They went out of business for a reason. Hopefully the new company will be a success
No, that was a rare event. I had BSA's for 12 years, no fires, no problems. Lack of keeping abreast of what you need to do, re-electrics, there must have been a problem, ( a short), that led to your fire. Not a problem, when you understand, that you need to keep your motorcycle, well maintained, because a motorcycle as you would know, are exposed to the weather and English weather is often unkind and needs to be balanced with some input to offset possible corrosion. @ least you survived intact!
From everything I have seen in all the videos on this it seems like a winner. It’s a retro standard that was meant to be a cruiser. It has plenty enough power. It’s not hard to maintain. You can use it in town, on backroads, and freeways and it handles it all well. Not a hot rod or sport bike or monster torque bike,and it wasn’t meant to be. Just a great looking retro cruiser that does it all quite nicely and you can have a fine enjoyable experience for cruising around on it without feeling like it’s not enough. That for me personally is a winner. 👍
Stuart you've outdone yourself with this review. Absolutely thorough and thoughtful. Notwithstanding your insulting our U.S. puny gallons. Being a Queen's subject U.S./Canadian dual citizen I remember well those Imperial gallons.
12:05 So I would like to know how would your partner sort following bikes, Classic 350, Classic 500, BSA. My wife told me that Super Meteor cruiser seat (not the standard small one) is more comfy than Bullet 350.
Nice final review Stu - thanks. A cracking bike the Goldstar 😊. The omission of the valve clearance check at 1st service is appropriate for this type of engine. Ironically, the same omission on the RE range isn't such a good idea in my opinion and I would advise owners to insist it's still carried out and definitely worth paying for - or doing yourself for those confident to carry it out. Edit: Nice to see that the Goldstar 650 is also easily able to accommodate what we'll call "Paula's Purchases" 😊
Many of the people slagging off this bike weren't borne when the GoldStar was around originally and if they were never actually owned one. Its great that a big single cylinder bike is being made in this style ,I would happily ride and own one whatever label they had on the tank.....as a suggestion a nice big R for Rotax would suit the bike fine.👍
Excellent review Stu I appreciate the effort you put in to be thorough and individual. I love my Speedmaster, but it has issues I find annoying. I tried the RE 650 Meteor/Shotgun and found it too modern feeling. I tried the Classic/Bullet 350 and found it struggled to get my largeness over 60mph. I sat on a Goldstar and thought it felt a bit of a big lump, but you've persuaded me to give it a test ride. You never know, eh? P.S. If only there were a RE Bullet 500 Reborn...
Me too! I will have my face pushed against the windows and drool marks on the door knob the day they have one for sale on our shores. Mahindra better hurry though as I am already a geezer.
Stuart, your review could be BSA's one of the best marketing tool. Loved your review. I own an Int 650. Would love to check out the Goldstar. Kudos sir . .
A good motorcycle is not a recreation of what something from the past- it’s just a good motorcycle. Arguing about history is ridiculous when the present provides something better. I love the pillion review- and Paula is quite a pill🥰. I can’t wait for my beloved main squeeze to get on the back of my Shotgun- a bike that to me, is the best horse. Love your Yorkshire man take on the motorcycle world and own a few items due to you- Well done.
This is a perfect review. When it comes to the US I am going to retire my ‘79 Yamaha XS 650 and take the plunge. You nailed it. The Goldstar is the true modern incarnation of the original British cruiser, which the Japanese also copied well enough back in the day. It will be a nice upgrade on handling and a major leap forward in braking. My wife pillion will appreciate that. Thank you.
Great review, personally love big thumper's. 100% with you, you don't have to scratch around every corner when you ride. Been there done that as they say😂. I'd love it if Enfield took in board what BSA have achieved and make a 500 bullet. Live in hope. Good honest review, keep it up.
Thanks for the informative and diligent review, plus the other two, and all the work that lies behind them. I loved the look of the bike when I saw it at the Birmingham bike show in 2022. Despite the positives outweighing the negatives, I don't think I could be persuaded to swap for my Interceptor. I am however interested to look at the RE Classic 350 following your various reviews of it, and was interested in your comparisons of it with the Goldstar, aside from the obvious power difference. 🙂
Good comments on the frame and rear suspension lugs. No centre stand is a pain, how do you change a tyre or djust he chain? I live in Australia so I haven't seen a BSA 650 yet. My Harley Softail Heritage Classic eats the kilometres superbly, but Im now 71yo so its starting to be heavey at low speeds for me. Ive been riding all my life and will continue until I can;t possibly manage it (death).
This isn't just a motorcycle, it's an event! I saw one recently, exiting a petrol station. I just stopped in my tracks, stood and stared! The classic beautiful looks, the soulful exhaust note, just made my heart sing! It made me feel good, and I wasn't the one riding it! Stu and his lovely wife look classy and cool in amongst the classical architecture of that old market square. They look happy to be out running errands, on the Goldstar. The fact that Pauline feels part of the ride, and wants to come along is priceless. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Uncle Stu gets one partly because of that. Superb review as usual.
Another great video. I agree with your comments regarding the BSA, I just would have preferred if they had to use a radiator, why they didn't copy Triumph's design and make it more incognito!
The best bike I have ever owned in all my days was a BMW F650 Dakar. I rode that bike everywhere for years, including 6 trips from Adelaide to Melbourne & back. The motor was the best thing about it. Enough power to keep you interested without making it the focus of the whole bike & virtually indestructible to boot. So when I saw BSA were resurrecting it for their reborn Gold Star, I knew I had to have one. I have a Harley Road King, a 1090 Brutale & a V7II Guzzi & it's the Guzzi I find myself on most of the time because it's so ordinary, so easy to live with. And when they start selling the Gold Stars in Australia, I will get in line to buy one for exactly those reasons. AND that motor. Ain't nothing like a big single...
I would think you've got tubed tyres on it Stuart - is that right? My Bonny is tubed as well and not sure I want those anymore, but it seems to be standard with spoked wheels nowadays.
Hello again, Stuart, I have replaced the stock Indian made Gabriel brand rear shocks on my Legacy Edition with a pair of Girling shrouded shocks. I think the Girlings give the rear suspension a more period look as befitting it's 1950's style. The Girlings are the same type of shocks that my mate has on his 1958 BSA A10 Super Rocket. The Gabriel shocks are now installed on a 1980 Benelli 900 Sei.
Thanks Stu, for a well executed video, I love that we old angry men, have the decency to admit, when we are wrong, please include Doris again, she suits the channel!!
I started riding in the 80s and as someone who has never owned a car, my bikes have had to be practical. So they have to be comfortable, have luggage options and do pretty much everything. Many happy memories of numerous XS650s, a Z650 and a borrowed MZ251.
Probably if not the best review of the new BSA Stu! I was a bit like yourself when I first clapped eyes on it especially that rad & the huge exhaust down pipe that looked like a scaffolding pole(tho it’s completely different now!) Dispite my opinion I still wanted BSA to do well & still do, the bike industry especially the retro side of it can do with some competition,tho I still think the Interceptor is a better looking bike I can only judge it on that as I’ve never ridden the BSA!
Is this yet another bike we aren’t getting in the USA? Or if we are getting it, it will be several years and cost twice as much? Why does this keep happening?
I agree with you about a bike needing a center stand as they are very useful. I'd love to see a kick starter on these type of bikes. What is the price of these compared to the other British classic 650 remakes? Thanks.
I was really interested in the Goldstar during pre-launch but kind of dismissed it once it was actually released, mainly I think because of reports of wallowy rear suspension. Taking my Himalayan 411 in for its 6k service in the next couple of weeks and had booked both the Shotgun and the Super Meteor for test rides, but thanks to your recent videos I’m now planning on test riding the Goldstar instead of the Super Meteor.
Good day Stuart, as ever with bikes we have more or less the same view. I like the style very much, but it is no a Gold Star from my point of view. The real Goldie is totally different, I had the chance to ride one several times with a 600 ABSAF engine, very loud and brutal. Back to the actual item, it looks for me a little bit like a pre series bike. But....I stay with my RE Hunter 350, waiting for a 500 cc single. I trust RE more than the other manufactorers like BSA, Mash etc.
A very nice looking bike paying heritage to the past. I think they missed the boat without a grab rail on the back for the passenger. The plastic handlebar controls that move around not a plus. Maintenance wise: A radiator, water overflow reservoir, water pump, thermostat, fan and hoses. Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 get on it and go. A contender in the 650cc range. I've watched many reviews on this bike. They seem to be positive. 6/28/24.
You've summed it on all points, Stu. I'd noted with the RN 452 call it Press launch that videoblogs had got to do test rides, it was more down to earth the end user, yet did they have time to be really critical or just agreed to being a bloody good Bike..! after all riders are the ones manufactures should take note of, if model/marketing is correct.. than to the Mags. Odd how it's always with any bike to be pigeon holed into a set category, like said you're all designed for the road and all do it differently, horses for courses. If you think on the revs, each stroke the piston makes a momentary complete stop top/bottom, can it then rattle at speed.. Free Parking.. our Town one area is where it didn't workout big enough for another car space in a corner, another Carpark took me long enough to find the place and then walking as off a walkway, its beyond a yellow boxed area, faded MC markings, useless space elsewise, has concrete bollards each corner and middle of front edge, whom there to stop.. just 2 Bikes max. Cheers Davey
Great review, and honest. I wonder if BSA made a marketing error in calling Goldstar. When I heard the name and then saw it, my mind went "that's not the same as the one my dad had". If it had been called the "Goldstar 23" or "The New Goldstar" I suspect my, and others, subconcious would have been less resistant to all the "new" bits. Your right though, an exact replica of the old one would not have sold, they were hard to start, hard to stop, and the old adage of "if it's leaking oil at least you know it has some in it" held true. Can't wait 'till they arrive here in Aus to try one.
Dear Uncle Stu. May l suggest that any Doris, carried on the 650, should be named Paula !! HA HA. Loved the revue and, love that you are doing more 'two-up' riding. Shiny side up !!
Hi Stuart! This is probably an odd question, but between this and the interceptor which bike would you say is faster and/or more fun at high speed? I already own a 500 classic which means I'm in somewhat of an odd position where speed is all im really lacking. I don't have a car either so motorways are currently a nightmare. I can see you talked about it a little in this video, but how fast does the BSA top out at and how does it compare to the interceptor?
I've heard that most bikes lock the steering either way. My 2023 Interceptor locks both ways, and I usually prefer to lock it to the right with the wheel turned up. In addition to looking more elegant this way, it also leans the bike over less, which can be helpful in certain parking situations.
Mr. Fillingham, Wonderful review of the BSA Goldstar - as the mistress of a RE 500 Trials Replica, I also enjoy the zip of a large single with lots of grunt for the twisty roads of Maine, in these Colonies. I agree that those who rush to castigate BSA as a ‘lesser brand,’ because of non-British ownership are simply being shortsighted boobs! In these here Colonies, the vast majority of our products arrive on our shores from foreign lands - and that is a good thing, regarding the economics of purchase. Lady Bacon
very enjoyable and informative review Stu - thank you - at my local m/c club which generally includes retired folks, recently purchased bikes are RE Hunter, Hornet 500 (because the guy couldn't wait for months for a Triumph 400 which he really wanted) and now a Gold Star, which I'm looking forward to seeing next week - what does that tell you about the appeal of these bikes?
Yorkshire man, I like what I say, and I say what I bloody well like 😂 Honest views - well done 👏 Just noticed the rifles on the cylinder - nice touch BSA.
I admit to TOTALLY dismissing this bike. I won`t even list the reasons, mainly because I have officially and completely changed my mind. This is thanks to your immensely thoughtful and eloquent, concise and honest review.
Apart from my usual gripe about the frame being too small for a 6' plus rider, my only criticism of this bike is the speedo. Having the 2 gauges is a distinct plus but I doubt I could ever come to like the way the needle moves compared to the traditional set-up.
My 2020 Speed Twin 1200 did not allow a centre stand and frequently stalled in "sport mode" in what I found was a known problem. Even mighty Triumph had issues. The bike was bought new. The stalling happened from day one. Quite dangerous.
i had a cagiva navigator v-twin 1000...[Suzuki TL.engine]..same issues..was told it was because of the emissions then they recommended me buy a power commander !..about another £300 or so boy was i angry..i told them i should not have to fork out more money to put it right ...the road tests at the time only mentioned a slight hesitantly below 30mph...never mentioned stalling,,which like you i found was dangerous at times..
My 2016 Street Twin was a nightmare, loads of issues, all of which were not recognised by Triumph despite the forums saying otherwise. I’ll never own another, only one of the big four Japanese for me !
Nice one Stuart. You’re correct; you buy the bike in accordance with what you want to do with it. The BSA looks to be great for mosying round. And a Yorkshire man apologising? You’ll be buying a round next! 😉😁
Very honest and thoughtful review. As a younger man, I do think that the rat race to get the biggest and most powerful bike is getting out of hand. That being said, although I do think these modern classics are great all rounders, I wonder how they will handle the bad weather we encounter here in the UK. Generally, my faired japanese bikes have handled whatever I've thrown at them better than their naked counterparts. Only time will tell how the finish holds up.
Enjoyed this video. I do not think it has been released here in the states. But you talk about this bike , like I talk about my W800 Cafe. Just what a 60s bike feels like in 2020s. Sounds like one might come stay in the garage soon.😊
Just recently, a small company specialising in classic bikes started importing these to Switzerland, and on contrary to Royal Enfield, they don't impose any "Swiss factor" on the price. Means, they are much cheaper than the corresponding RE. However, I had just ordered a new Moto Guzzi at that time, which actually is very similar in character, with the addition of the V-twin and shaft drive, of course. But I think I'll still go by and make a test drive of a gold star!
I really hope this bike does well. The world needs a large displacement single, the loss of the RE Classic 500 left a hole that the 350 doesn't quite fill. The effort to build a comfortable, capable, classically styled bike should be applauded.
Very true.
It IS doing well , I bought two , they are brilliant ❤❤
I don't know. Been awfully happy with my modded Classic 350 with the Kent cam. Adds 6 hp at the wheel. 1-2 less than the 500? Now my track-prepped FT500 Ascot is another story...
@@GrampsD63 Yes, but the 350 has a speed limiter. I had cash in hand to ride a meteor home, road it and toped out at about 70. That killed the deal for me.
You said it all. I agree as a classic 500 owner. Wish they would bring it to the USA. Hey BSA. I have cash in hand!
I'm an ex classic 350 owner, I now have a goldstar and have just over 1000 miles on it. You nailed it when you said it's basically a classic 350 but with that more useable level of power. Nit looks great, rides great, and I've had no issues with it. Nit absolutely love my goldstar, and I'm finding your series of reviews fasenating. Fair, unbiased, non of the ridiculous brand snobbery which seems reserved expressly for BSA. Truly great stuff, I look forward to the full review and maybe some maintenance/accessories (in the fullness of time).
And now at £4995+otr it's not far off the price of a 350 to boot!
That was the best, I've seen! Just as motorcycles, used to be. It picks up the styling cues, of the original, but by modern standards.
Keep up the good work. I love your reviews!
There's an updated service schedule, so the first and subsequent valve clearance checks are 14,500 miles. BSA sell a specific paddock stand for around £80 for chain maintenance and wheel removal, and Classic Bike Racks do a passenger grab rail for £55. I can't praise my BSA enough. It is what it is, and that's a cracking modern classic with a stonking single at a great price.
BSA also do a grab rail or one with a small rack included
@suesue5694 yes they do, but it's about three times the price if it's just a grab rail you're after.
Regular service intervals are 3,500 miles by the way.
@@jerrywines382 says 6200 on the manual i downloaded!
@@LumpyCarbs @LumpyCarbs yep found the one you're referring to and compared it to the one I downloaded a couple of weeks ago. They are completely different, no 500mile valve check and they have halved the oil change interval. thats with fully synth oil too very odd!
None of it makes sense, second service is 3000 miles after first and third service is 4000 miles after second service, and 6000km = about 3750 miles not 3000!
I simply love your reviews.
I have got all information that I need, thank you .
Kind regards from Canada.
I sat down and thought about it, and I realized that I've only owned one bike that was truly "modern". I consistently find myself drawn to a round headlight, neutral ergonomics, and a novel engine character.
Agree with you, same thought here.
Thank you, Stuart. 100% agree with all we’ve said there…..
A lot of modern motorcyclist are in trend in the latest gizmo the fastest technical abilities of the machine, et cetera, some of those people, cannot understand why someone might desire another motorcycle that looks old style and just brides differently to the rocket ships motorbikes or the huge adventure style motorbikes (don’t get me wrong they are all great machines), it’s good to make your choice and enjoy what you have for whatever criteria you made your decision to acquire that motorcycle and of course the happiness that it brings you.
I’m definitely one of those guys that makes up his mind for himself and not what everybody else says I should do including the manufacturers …
Thank you again brilliant chat and review
Really enjoyed this one thanks Stu. I had my hesitations but jumped on a deal for a second hand one around Sept last year, I've enjoyed so much since. Going over to ABR Festival and looking at pretty much every brand's modern classic offerings I came away happy with the bike I own. That I didn't expect!
That was an enjoyable review on the BSA and I would like to say the engine would go on for ever. My last job was working on this engine in a BMW frame and the riders were animals with no respect.
I liked the bike so much I bought one and have enjoyed every ride.
So to sum up Stuart keep up the good work and await your next review on any bike that you get next.
Nice unbiased report, pointing out the benefits of "normal bikes" as we used to know them. Everyday bikes where you feel comfortable and still go on long tours when needed.
Not enough of those today, unfortunately.
When are you getting one?😅
Lack of a centerstand option is certainly a big mistake as with many bikes today, in favour of ground clearance, weight, and costs.
Absolutely loving my Midnight Black, still in running in kms, have had the stalling issue, the engine light etc - but man I really love it. I smile all through the ride.
Stuart, I'm a Welder myself, frame welds could be better appearance wise ( slightly bigger build up ) but it's been MIG welded the frame tubing and it'll be fine, ok bending the frame tube it would look nicer and maybe cheeper to make, but as i say she'll be ok.
I have been watching as many of your videos as possible even if I had no interest in the bike simply because I love the way you do your reviews. I just bought a new Triumph scrambler 400x and love it but now you have me also wanting this BSA Goldstar and a few models of the Royal Enfields. I didn’t even know they made this BSA and I’ve been telling people that my Triumph is the new Goldstar without knowing they were back in business. I I do my best to suffer through all the commercials so you get your well deserved payouts from those adds.I have decided that you actually are a genius. Thank you for all of your time you spend making these reviews and you simply are the Best out there.
A really enjoyable review and video Stu and from a slightly more in depth and certainly a more relevant angle than I've seen previously regarding the Gold Star. Really good. I really love this bike and now totally 'get it' too, thanks to your video's. The only let down is that it isn't air cooled but that's just me but it is a big single and this is a huge plus for me. It would have been all to easy for BSA to make a 'Golden Flash' twin but they didn't and because of this brave decision they have a bike that is out on its own, especially now that a big single 'Classic' from Royal Enfield seems unlikely.
Another cracking video and review Stuart. Well, I’ve seen your 2 previous reviews and I’m off shopping next week with my current wife. I’ll probably part x the v strom, but I’ve never felt comfortable on it anyway. I also miss the feel of the bikes I rode in the 1970s- comfortable, easy to ride and a smile on the face because it’s what motorcycles were about. Totally agree re press reviews. It’s a lot like mainstream press on other issues, for example covid related restrictions by Government.
Anyway, I want one.
An excellent review from an independent viewpoint that is relevant to most motorcycle riders if they are honest with themselves. Motorcycling from this perspective is so much more enjoyable. I am sure there will be a lot of interest in this bike as a result of this video. Top work again Stu.
Cracking review Stu, like you I wasn’t too keen at first, I liked the overall look but was not very impressed with things like the transfers on the engine and the big ugly usb lump on the bars, little bits that could have been done better in my view but as time has gone on it’s growing on me and I will have to get a test ride on one. Good to see a review that involved a pillion, something that is lacking on practicality every other review on TH-cam and yet a very important thing for so many of us. All the best buddy 👍
You were correct in your initial impression. It's a fugly bike with that big stupid looking radiator and plastic bits and decals stuck onto the engine. The R.E. Interceptor 650 is a far nicer motorcycle.
Excellent review Stuart.
Hi Stu, I'm glad to hear your unbiased commentary on your BSA experience. I also love the way you compare it to Royal Enfield and Triumph. I too remember back in the day when a bike was a bike, or as you called it a general all arounder and honestly, that's the most fun I had motorcycling. Keep up the good work and enjoy the ride.
Excellent ,honest review Stu . I'm going to test ride a Gold Star along with an Interceptor/Shotgun soon .
Locking to the right side too: same with the BMW F650 which uses the same Rotax engine.
...which I like a lot!
The BSA has aditionally the classic look and seems (!) to be better for aditional passenger.
Looking forward seeing the BSA in Germany
I enjoyed this review, and I’m not even a biker! As always, your considered analysis of detail shines through, and having the bike on test for a decent amount of time gives credence to your conclusions. Looks like a good choice for the channel, plenty of interest, and suits pillion inclusion on your days out etc.
The hardest thing for BSA is to give access to people to buy one of these. Find dealers who are ready to have a demobike or two and see to it that there are new bikes to be had without waiting a year for it. The market is bad right now, even for established dealers. So they need to take their time, be prepared to operate with a loss for propably quite some time. Maybe invent new ways to sell bikes. If they can do this for the longer haul they propably will get there in the end, that bike has the looks and also quality to attract us greybeards and it is mostly us who buy bikes. There is enough muscle in the parent company, time will tell if there is patience. But a great bike, and a worthy review!
Brilliant video as always Stuart and a fantastic review of the BSA Goldstar, and I see your batting well above your average with Paula 😁👍🏻
This sounds like a great bike with a top engine. I'm looking forward to the Scrambler. Both the Gold Star and the Scrambler would make perfect long-distance bikes. I went long distances on my XT500 in the '80s. By the way, my KTM 390 Duke's steering lock works both ways.
First-class review, Stuart. Very enjoyable. Nick
I really appreciate the way you thinking , thank you Stuart
What a superb review, I really enjoy your videos with excellent photography and a unique, clearly understandable, measured and intelligent presenting style which sadly lacking on youtube. Your musings and discussion on the little details which other reviewers do not cover fascinate me, the steering lock issue, biased to the right or left for instance would never have crossed my mind until the niggling situation arose, very good point. Got me thinking, my 74 Z1 can lock either way like the BSA, so this feature was thought of all those years back but disappeared on other bikes I have owned! Your review has prompted me to book a test ride, if I can find one, very tempted to buy!
I bought Interceptor 650 15 months ago here in India. I like it but BSA Goldstar test ride alludes more comfort, braking confidence, easy manuverability and handling. Also, lower seat of BSA compared to INTY helped my 5'7" height in controlling the BSA. My friend who also own the INTY told me its mainly due to 150/60 R17 rear Perilli tyres instead of the 130/70 R18 ones on INTY, and suggested the same rear rim and tyre mod for the INTY to experience similar kind of ride as the BSA. What's yout take on this mod of shifting to 150/60R17 on INTY for added braking, stability ?
👌great vídeo.. lovely bike👍 saludos desde México Tio Stu! ✌️
As ever a detailed and balanced review. The comparison you make with an upscale Classic 350 makes me wonder where you see the BSA in comparison to the Shotgun 650. An extra star awarded for the pillion passenger. 😂
I really like this bike. I am going to get a test ride. Thanks for a very detailed review. I've always had singles and twins because that's what I grew up on and all I ever needed. I have my twin pot BM roadster set up on the soft side it soaks up the bumps and handles well enough for me. I like to sit as upright as possible and just enjoy the ride. Rushing along makes things fly by but you lose the experience of the journey in a blur.
Stuart, your reviews are definitely the best and most in depth that I regularly read! By the way, there is an aftermarket centre stand although it is very pricey due to the qty being made.
Thanks, Stu. This bike sounds like a good upgrade to my Enfield! Great reviews, both parts 1, the walk round, and 2 this hand on review.
Correction, the BSA Gold Star 650 that I rode in 1959 was an air cooled parallel twin. It had a sprung drivers seat and a separate pillion seat. Sprung seats had padding and were more comfortable than the modern sponge rubber seats. The head light was not bright, and my modern scooter’s lights are no better. The BSA 500 was a single cylinder. With Australia’s long highways these bikes are great for touring in the country, cruising at 100 kph. The pegs are better positioned for rough roads when one may choose to stand on the pegs.
@bobjuniel8683 that's a Rocket Gold Star ... basically a tuned A10 Gold Flash
@@dayvidmathews1182 Thanks.✅ I was 15 at the time in 1959. To me it was just a BSA 650. My mates took me to their family farm. At night we went to the movies on his father's Brough Superior. At 95 mph the electrics became a problem, the 1100cc V twin would not do the ton with two on board. Even then it was a collectors item. I'm 80 and now ride a light weight Honda ADV-150 scooter, with CVT transmission. No longer take a passenger or ride at night. But I still ride.
What I loved most was no car ever beat us at the lights, and the sense of freedom. God I love motorbikes.
Excellent detailed review.
Nice that you have included your Doris in the channel, she definitely compliments it.
I think BSA have pretty much hit the nail on the head.
I have a Kawasaki KLR650. It is a single cylinder water cooled 650cc motorcycle with a 5 speed gearbox. It has no centrestand. The engine is DOHC with shims under buckets for the tappets. I took it to the Kawasaki dealer to have the tappets checked and adjusted at 25,000 kms. The dealer told me that the tappets were still within spec and therefore none of the shims were replaced. I took it to the dealer, as he has a stock of secondhand shims and the mechanical knowledge to do the job.
I use a bike lift for changing tyres and lubing the chain.
Yeah, but this isn't about the KLR650 is it!!?
Back when the Goldstar was first announced, I was really excited about the possibility of it becoming available. As time went on it seemed like it just wouldn't make it, so I forgot about it and purchased my INT650 which I'm very satisfied with. I hope it becomes successful --- In that perfect world where the number of motorcycles you can have is n+1, I would get one in a heartbeat.
You made the right choice, The Interceptor 650 is a far better bike than this monstrosity.
@@renwick_ro67267 It's best to hold your judgement until you see one in the metal and have given it a proper ride. If you admire mechanical contrivances, you just might change your mind. Cheers.
@@jgordoncooper7112 Fair comment, but so far, it looks too fake for me.
@@renwick_ro67267 I think part of the problem is the name "Goldstar". The original was a lean bare bones leg breaking beautiful woman with a very bad temper. If they called the new one the "CozyStar", people would accept it for what it is. Put that big thumper in a Rickman Metisse frame.... Now you're talking. Aint life great?
Nice review Stuart. Good to hear you have used it for pillion work. I checked the BSA website and there is no grab rail mentioned as an accessory. Some very good deals about which may upset the first owners. Although as I write this I have just noticed that someone has said a rail is on Classic bike racks. Just looked at my local dealer website and they have a lovely R100rs for sale...
Just this morning I had a look at the dealers in Ipswich, Triumph, Suzuki, KTM, Kawasaki offerings and just looked at the seats and prices as i use my 14 year old RT1200 as my commuter and For the price, the 650 looks right. (I have an original Commando 850 and I suppose the nearest to it is a Bonnie but I road one a few years back and it was sooooo boring. T120 was nice. V7 looks a little small for me, which may put me off the BSA.
Great review once again. I think it will win a fan base. It's very slightly reminiscent of my old man's Matchless 650. Cheers .
Stated riding in the 60's. My last road bike then was a 61 Bonnie. After marriage n kids, started trial then enduro till 93. 1994, bought my first BMW RS. Then 3 more and 4 RT's all new. Hankered for a GS but an airhead. Found a 1996 PD Classic in 2019 absolutely love to ride it, BUT at 78 it's getting a bit 'big' so as soon as that's sold, it's a Goldie for me. Great Vid Stuart.
Awesome review thank you much. I'd love to test ride one but I don't think they're here in America yet .
Thanks for this very thorough review, the best untill now in all the episodes. Another bike on my list. So for me it would be a 650, the shotgun, super meteor, the goldstar, but... i still wait for hopefully the enfield classic 650. A lot of testriding to do, ha ha.
Again, thank you so much uncle Stu.
Love from Holland and regards to Paula.
I had a BSA goldstar back in the day, it sounded great but went on fire with smoke coming out between the tank and the seat, right next to the family jewels at 60mph. Luckily it went out. Rewired it and sold it on for a new Kawasaki. They went out of business for a reason. Hopefully the new company will be a success
No, that was a rare event. I had BSA's for 12 years, no fires, no problems. Lack of keeping abreast of what you need to do, re-electrics, there must have been a problem, ( a short), that led to your fire. Not a problem, when you understand, that you need to keep your motorcycle, well maintained, because a motorcycle as you would know, are exposed to the weather and English weather is often unkind and needs to be balanced with some input to offset possible corrosion.
@ least you survived intact!
From everything I have seen in all the videos on this it seems like a winner. It’s a retro standard that was meant to be a cruiser. It has plenty enough power. It’s not hard to maintain. You can use it in town, on backroads, and freeways and it handles it all well. Not a hot rod or sport bike or monster torque bike,and it wasn’t meant to be. Just a great looking retro cruiser that does it all quite nicely and you can have a fine enjoyable experience for cruising around on it without feeling like it’s not enough. That for me personally is a winner. 👍
Stuart you've outdone yourself with this review. Absolutely thorough and thoughtful. Notwithstanding your insulting our U.S. puny gallons. Being a Queen's subject U.S./Canadian dual citizen I remember well those Imperial gallons.
@googlecontrolled ah yes I'm still not reconciled with her passing
Would you please explain what you mean by a 'socketed weld' . Not a description I have seen before relating to a welded joint??
12:05 So I would like to know how would your partner sort following bikes, Classic 350, Classic 500, BSA. My wife told me that Super Meteor cruiser seat (not the standard small one) is more comfy than Bullet 350.
BSA,350,500
Nice final review Stu - thanks. A cracking bike the Goldstar 😊. The omission of the valve clearance check at 1st service is appropriate for this type of engine. Ironically, the same omission on the RE range isn't such a good idea in my opinion and I would advise owners to insist it's still carried out and definitely worth paying for - or doing yourself for those confident to carry it out.
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Nice to see that the Goldstar 650 is also easily able to accommodate what we'll call "Paula's Purchases" 😊
Many of the people slagging off this bike weren't borne when the GoldStar was around originally and if they were never actually owned one. Its great that a big single cylinder bike is being made in this style ,I would happily ride and own one whatever label they had on the tank.....as a suggestion a nice big R for Rotax would suit the bike fine.👍
Excellent review Stu I appreciate the effort you put in to be thorough and individual.
I love my Speedmaster, but it has issues I find annoying.
I tried the RE 650 Meteor/Shotgun and found it too modern feeling.
I tried the Classic/Bullet 350 and found it struggled to get my largeness over 60mph.
I sat on a Goldstar and thought it felt a bit of a big lump, but you've persuaded me to give it a test ride.
You never know, eh?
P.S. If only there were a RE Bullet 500 Reborn...
Get an Interceptor 650 instead.
@@renwick_ro67267 Too uncomfortable. Cafe racer style = bad back for me hehe
@@Disposalist No, the R.E. Continental GT is Cafe Racer style. The Interceptor 650 is just a standard motorcycle.
It sounds like you’ve found the next bike for the channel Stu 😉👍🏻 carry on that man Caio for now tat ta 👍🏻
Great series on the Goldstar. I'm quite interested in one when they arrive in the US.
Me too! I will have my face pushed against the windows and drool marks on the door knob the day they have one for sale on our shores. Mahindra better hurry though as I am already a geezer.
Stuart, your review could be BSA's one of the best marketing tool. Loved your review. I own an Int 650. Would love to check out the Goldstar. Kudos sir . .
Cool, thanks
A good motorcycle is not a recreation of what something from the past- it’s just a good motorcycle. Arguing about history is ridiculous when the present provides something better.
I love the pillion review- and Paula is quite a pill🥰.
I can’t wait for my beloved main squeeze to get on the back of my Shotgun- a bike that to me, is the best horse.
Love your Yorkshire man take on the motorcycle world and own a few items due to you-
Well done.
Looks really good. Don't think I'll be replacing my 500 Bullet, though.
This is a perfect review. When it comes to the US I am going to retire my ‘79 Yamaha XS 650 and take the plunge. You nailed it. The Goldstar is the true modern incarnation of the original British cruiser, which the Japanese also copied well enough back in the day. It will be a nice upgrade on handling and a major leap forward in braking. My wife pillion will appreciate that. Thank you.
I wonder if will last as long as your XS650 🤔
@@markgaines2550 Possibly not. The 650 was over engineered as Yamaha's first four stroke, so highly bomb and idiot proof.
Nice review, we are just waiting to launch this in India. I heard it is launching in August this year. I am very much interested in this bike.
Great review, personally love big thumper's. 100% with you, you don't have to scratch around every corner when you ride. Been there done that as they say😂. I'd love it if Enfield took in board what BSA have achieved and make a 500 bullet. Live in hope. Good honest review, keep it up.
Great scenes of East Yorkshire my old home county.
Thanks for the informative and diligent review, plus the other two, and all the work that lies behind them.
I loved the look of the bike when I saw it at the Birmingham bike show in 2022. Despite the positives outweighing the negatives, I don't think I could be persuaded to swap for my Interceptor. I am however interested to look at the RE Classic 350 following your various reviews of it, and was interested in your comparisons of it with the Goldstar, aside from the obvious power difference. 🙂
Good comments on the frame and rear suspension lugs. No centre stand is a pain, how do you change a tyre or djust he chain? I live in Australia so I haven't seen a BSA 650 yet. My Harley Softail Heritage Classic eats the kilometres superbly, but Im now 71yo so its starting to be heavey at low speeds for me. Ive been riding all my life and will continue until I can;t possibly manage it (death).
Hi Stu, Thanks for the vid, and letting us know that the pillion is ok on the back. I'll try one out and see whether to keep my Meteor 350 or not 🙂
Nice bike. Thank you for your profi videos. According your videos i customised my int 650.
This isn't just a motorcycle, it's an event! I saw one recently, exiting a petrol station. I just stopped in my tracks, stood and stared! The classic beautiful looks, the soulful exhaust note, just made my heart sing! It made me feel good, and I wasn't the one riding it! Stu and his lovely wife look classy and cool in amongst the classical architecture of that old market square. They look happy to be out running errands, on the Goldstar. The fact that Pauline feels part of the ride, and wants to come along is priceless. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Uncle Stu gets one partly because of that. Superb review as usual.
Another great video. I agree with your comments regarding the BSA, I just would have preferred if they had to use a radiator, why they didn't copy Triumph's design and make it more incognito!
The best bike I have ever owned in all my days was a BMW F650 Dakar. I rode that bike everywhere for years, including 6 trips from Adelaide to Melbourne & back. The motor was the best thing about it. Enough power to keep you interested without making it the focus of the whole bike & virtually indestructible to boot.
So when I saw BSA were resurrecting it for their reborn Gold Star, I knew I had to have one.
I have a Harley Road King, a 1090 Brutale & a V7II Guzzi & it's the Guzzi I find myself on most of the time because it's so ordinary, so easy to live with.
And when they start selling the Gold Stars in Australia, I will get in line to buy one for exactly those reasons. AND that motor. Ain't nothing like a big single...
I would think you've got tubed tyres on it Stuart - is that right? My Bonny is tubed as well and not sure I want those anymore, but it seems to be standard with spoked wheels nowadays.
Hello again, Stuart, I have replaced the stock Indian made Gabriel brand rear shocks on my Legacy Edition with a pair of Girling shrouded shocks. I think the Girlings give the rear suspension a more period look as befitting it's 1950's style. The Girlings are the same type of shocks that my mate has on his 1958 BSA A10 Super Rocket. The Gabriel shocks are now installed on a 1980 Benelli 900 Sei.
Stuart, with reference to the Steering Lock only working in one direction on full lock, my '22 Interceptor can be also locked in either direction.
Thanks Stu, for a well executed video, I love that we old angry men, have the decency to admit, when we are wrong, please include Doris again, she suits the channel!!
The new Gold Star is a very handsome bike. Great review Stu. Too bad they’re not available here in Wisconsin.
Godspeed from across The Pond
I started riding in the 80s and as someone who has never owned a car, my bikes have had to be practical. So they have to be comfortable, have luggage options and do pretty much everything. Many happy memories of numerous XS650s, a Z650 and a borrowed MZ251.
Probably if not the best review of the new BSA Stu! I was a bit like yourself when I first clapped eyes on it especially that rad & the huge exhaust down pipe that looked like a scaffolding pole(tho it’s completely different now!) Dispite my opinion I still wanted BSA to do well & still do, the bike industry especially the retro side of it can do with some competition,tho I still think the Interceptor is a better looking bike I can only judge it on that as I’ve never ridden the BSA!
Is this yet another bike we aren’t getting in the USA? Or if we are getting it, it will be several years and cost twice as much? Why does this keep happening?
I agree with you about a bike needing a center stand as they are very useful. I'd love to see a kick starter on these type of bikes. What is the price of these compared to the other British classic 650 remakes? Thanks.
very similar
I was really interested in the Goldstar during pre-launch but kind of dismissed it once it was actually released, mainly I think because of reports of wallowy rear suspension. Taking my Himalayan 411 in for its 6k service in the next couple of weeks and had booked both the Shotgun and the Super Meteor for test rides, but thanks to your recent videos I’m now planning on test riding the Goldstar instead of the Super Meteor.
Mr.Fillingham, in your opinion would a six speed gearbox help with better tracktability of the engine?
What was that car that passed you at 2:10-2:11? I don't think we see that much over here...
It looks like a Lamborghini.
Good day Stuart, as ever with bikes we have more or less the same view. I like the style very much, but it is no a Gold Star from my point of view. The real Goldie is totally different, I had the chance to ride one several times with a 600 ABSAF engine, very loud and brutal. Back to the actual item, it looks for me a little bit like a pre series bike. But....I stay with my RE Hunter 350, waiting for a 500 cc single. I trust RE more than the other manufactorers like BSA, Mash etc.
A very nice looking bike paying heritage to the past. I think they missed the boat without a grab rail on the back for the passenger. The plastic handlebar controls that move around not a plus. Maintenance wise: A radiator, water overflow reservoir, water pump, thermostat, fan and hoses. Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 get on it and go. A contender in the 650cc range. I've watched many reviews on this bike. They seem to be positive. 6/28/24.
You've summed it on all points, Stu.
I'd noted with the RN 452 call it Press launch that videoblogs had got to do test rides, it was more down to earth the end user, yet did they have time to be really critical or just agreed to being a bloody good Bike..! after all riders are the ones manufactures should take note of, if model/marketing is correct.. than to the Mags.
Odd how it's always with any bike to be pigeon holed into a set category, like said you're all designed for the road and all do it differently, horses for courses.
If you think on the revs, each stroke the piston makes a momentary complete stop top/bottom, can it then rattle at speed..
Free Parking.. our Town one area is where it didn't workout big enough for another car space in a corner, another Carpark took me long enough to find the place and then walking as off a walkway, its beyond a yellow boxed area, faded MC markings, useless space elsewise, has concrete bollards each corner and middle of front edge, whom there to stop.. just 2 Bikes max.
Cheers Davey
Great review on a great looking bike. Thank you for sharing.
Great review, and honest. I wonder if BSA made a marketing error in calling Goldstar. When I heard the name and then saw it, my mind went "that's not the same as the one my dad had". If it had been called the "Goldstar 23" or "The New Goldstar" I suspect my, and others, subconcious would have been less resistant to all the "new" bits. Your right though, an exact replica of the old one would not have sold, they were hard to start, hard to stop, and the old adage of "if it's leaking oil at least you know it has some in it" held true. Can't wait 'till they arrive here in Aus to try one.
Dear Uncle Stu. May l suggest that any Doris, carried on the 650, should be named Paula !! HA HA.
Loved the revue and, love that you are doing more 'two-up' riding.
Shiny side up !!
Hi Stuart!
This is probably an odd question, but between this and the interceptor which bike would you say is faster and/or more fun at high speed?
I already own a 500 classic which means I'm in somewhat of an odd position where speed is all im really lacking. I don't have a car either so motorways are currently a nightmare.
I can see you talked about it a little in this video, but how fast does the BSA top out at and how does it compare to the interceptor?
I've heard that most bikes lock the steering either way. My 2023 Interceptor locks both ways, and I usually prefer to lock it to the right with the wheel turned up. In addition to looking more elegant this way, it also leans the bike over less, which can be helpful in certain parking situations.
Mr. Fillingham,
Wonderful review of the BSA Goldstar - as the mistress of a RE 500 Trials Replica, I also enjoy the zip of a large single with lots of grunt for the twisty roads of Maine, in these Colonies. I agree that those who rush to castigate BSA as a ‘lesser brand,’ because of non-British ownership are simply being shortsighted boobs! In these here Colonies, the vast majority of our products arrive on our shores from foreign lands - and that is a good thing, regarding the economics of purchase.
Lady Bacon
very enjoyable and informative review Stu - thank you - at my local m/c club which generally includes retired folks, recently purchased bikes are RE Hunter, Hornet 500 (because the guy couldn't wait for months for a Triumph 400 which he really wanted) and now a Gold Star, which I'm looking forward to seeing next week - what does that tell you about the appeal of these bikes?
Yorkshire man, I like what I say, and I say what I bloody well like 😂 Honest views - well done 👏 Just noticed the rifles on the cylinder - nice touch BSA.
Love to see one. When will they be imported to the USA ??
Thanks for the great review Stu !!
I admit to TOTALLY dismissing this bike. I won`t even list the reasons, mainly because I have officially and completely changed my mind. This is thanks to your immensely thoughtful and eloquent, concise and honest review.
Great review loved the bike and town shots very profesional .
Hi Stu, what’s the mileage on city and highway for this bike? I’m really concerned about the mileage
Apart from my usual gripe about the frame being too small for a 6' plus rider, my only criticism of this bike is the speedo.
Having the 2 gauges is a distinct plus but I doubt I could ever come to like the way the needle moves compared to the traditional set-up.
The sweep is identical to all the other classics, it just starts in another place.
My 2020 Speed Twin 1200 did not allow a centre stand and frequently stalled in "sport mode" in what I found was a known problem. Even mighty Triumph had issues. The bike was bought new. The stalling happened from day one. Quite dangerous.
i had a cagiva navigator v-twin 1000...[Suzuki TL.engine]..same issues..was told it was because of the emissions then they recommended me buy a power commander !..about another £300 or so boy was i angry..i told them i should not have to fork out more money to put it right ...the road tests at the time only mentioned a slight hesitantly below 30mph...never mentioned stalling,,which like you i found was dangerous at times..
My 2016 Street Twin was a nightmare, loads of issues, all of which were not recognised by Triumph despite the forums saying otherwise. I’ll never own another, only one of the big four Japanese for me !
Is there any new bsa gold star in nź yet
Nice one Stuart. You’re correct; you buy the bike in accordance with what you want to do with it. The BSA looks to be great for mosying round. And a Yorkshire man apologising? You’ll be buying a round next! 😉😁
Hello from India, Mr Fillingham! BSA is launching the Goldstar in August in India. Can you please tell us whether the tyres are tubeless or tube type?
Very honest and thoughtful review. As a younger man, I do think that the rat race to get the biggest and most powerful bike is getting out of hand. That being said, although I do think these modern classics are great all rounders, I wonder how they will handle the bad weather we encounter here in the UK. Generally, my faired japanese bikes have handled whatever I've thrown at them better than their naked counterparts. Only time will tell how the finish holds up.
Enjoyed this video. I do not think it has been released here in the states. But you talk about this bike , like I talk about my W800 Cafe. Just what a 60s bike feels like in 2020s. Sounds like one might come stay in the garage soon.😊
Just recently, a small company specialising in classic bikes started importing these to Switzerland, and on contrary to Royal Enfield, they don't impose any "Swiss factor" on the price. Means, they are much cheaper than the corresponding RE. However, I had just ordered a new Moto Guzzi at that time, which actually is very similar in character, with the addition of the V-twin and shaft drive, of course. But I think I'll still go by and make a test drive of a gold star!