+Christopher Pederson wooo! Really pleased for your new acquisition (and that I might have contributed to the decision)! You're going to LOVE it. What version did you go for?
I used to have the MK II, but I sold it (regretted it ever since). It was the chrome knobs with blue LED's version: so I sprung for the deluxe Chromed out version. Yeah, that kick video you posted pretty much sold it. The MK II never had that channel (it only had 3 Drum 1, 2 and 3 channels!)
+Christopher Pederson oh yeah, I'd read that somewhere - the Kick channel is a massive addition over the "drum" channels for sure (although the drum channels allow you to do FM kicks which are fun as well!). I love how the labels on the channels are "advisories" rather than rules!
..I have a question for someone who has taken the time to listen to the kick and it's stability.. I have a DRM MKII version with chrome knobs (not the MKIII).. I have many analog kick drum machines and modular modules.. some are very stable some wobble or change in volume.. I have noticed that the DRUM channels on DRM I MKII are unstable as far as trying to use them to make a kick drum with them.. I am wondering how stable is the KICK on the MKIII version..? ..does it wobble..? ..thank you for the answer in advance..
if i want to connect this to the beatstep pro, should i get the standard DRM1 model or the one with the 8 triggers in the back? i want to use the beatstep as the main sequencer for this vermona and maybe also record the vermona into my daw to use custom drum sounds instead of samples.
Either the MIDI or the one with triggers would work, but I'd recommend just getting the MIDI version unless you have another reason (vintage gear, modular, etc.) to do so - you only get velocity sensitivity over MIDI so that's the better way to control the DRM1 in terms of getting the most from it.
Hey, you should try the BSP with it as well. Or both! Use the BSP for notes and the SQ1 for other modulation. The BSP is definitely more "robust" for doing melodies in my opinion.
+Digiphex Electronics little space, but I bet the price would jump up. I'm thankful for them keeping that cost down because I was actually, specifically looking for something without a sequencer as I wanted to use the BSP. I was in a situation where the lack of the sequencer was a bonus!
Hi, After several times watching and listen to your videos, i get convinced about buying a vermona and a beatstep pro. I received these two devices this week. After some days trying to understand a bit how it works, i can trigger the sounds of the vermona through de beatstep pro pads, in control mode, but, why my beatstep pro doesn''t sound in sequecer mode? i'm trying to record a simple pattern and i can't, i don't know why it does not trigger sounds when i turn it to drum mode. It's connected via midi, midi out from beatstep to midi in of vermona, and the usb ac adapter, maybe i need to connect more cables? Thanks a lot for your videos and your help. Regards
@@OscillatorSink Hey, thank you very much for your answer, much appreciated. Yes, i did the midi learn process on the Vermona, but in Control Mode, not in Drum Mode, maybe it's the error? I'm so newie with hardware gear, as much as i read the manual more confusion i get. I will do again the midi learn process on the Vermona, but this time in drum mode. Thanks again. Love your channel.
@@OscillatorSink wow man, you were right, IT WORKS!!!! now i start to understand a bit more how the sequencer works, you made me SO HAPPY, thanks a lot again!
Thanks for the great videos on this machine. I have a DSI Tempest, but to be honest although an amazing machine I'm getting a bit tired of the menu diving. So was actually thinking of getting the DrumBrute, but this seems very cool... I would be using it with my DAW. Is it easy to set up with MIDI?
Yeah it's really straightforward - it has default MIDI mappings but you can also put it into learn mode to set it up to your liking. It responds to velocity really well too - very expressive! But bear in mind that none of the knobs are midi controllable - just triggering the sounds with note data.
If you mean the "is the DRM-1 still worth it in 2020?", then I'd say yes - there's still not a lot like it if it's the kind of sound and approach that you're after. If you mean "is 2020 still worth it?", well the jury's out on that one.
Dude, great job on these vids man! I'm about to pull the trigger on this one, I was determined to get a MFB Tanzmaus but this is making me reconsider. Thoughts?
+Israel Flores the Tanzmaus also sounds great - really tight and precise where the Vermona is a little bit more characterful. Obviously you're getting a sequencer in the TM too, but that's not an issue if you have sequencer already, and some people aren't so fond of the work flow on the MFB. Check out some more demos though, because it's going to be the sound that wins out... I know which one I went with ;)
Ive decided that I'm going to get both! I could really use the imported samples feature on the MFB as well as the portability for live settings. I ordered the DRM1 and its on its way! Thanks for the info
Beautiful Bass drums. Thanks for the video, very methodical and not too fast or too much chat. A great job.
Just bought one - awesome machine! Cheers for these vids/tutorials! :)
Enjoy!
So nice just being able to shape a kick on the fly like that. All the right ingredients are there in terms of tweak-ability. Just ordered a MK-iV.
It's great! Enjoy new mk-IV!
@@OscillatorSink cheers for that, keep up the amazing content, your sessions are the most inspiring on TH-cam!
This nice one thank you for the video...🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🔝🎧
Bass drum is thumpin'!!! I pulled the trigger on one of these.
+Christopher Pederson wooo! Really pleased for your new acquisition (and that I might have contributed to the decision)! You're going to LOVE it. What version did you go for?
I used to have the MK II, but I sold it (regretted it ever since). It was the chrome knobs with blue LED's version: so I sprung for the deluxe Chromed out version. Yeah, that kick video you posted pretty much sold it. The MK II never had that channel (it only had 3 Drum 1, 2 and 3 channels!)
+Christopher Pederson oh yeah, I'd read that somewhere - the Kick channel is a massive addition over the "drum" channels for sure (although the drum channels allow you to do FM kicks which are fun as well!). I love how the labels on the channels are "advisories" rather than rules!
Thanks for video.
It helped me a lot, i had some doubts.
I think this has all the kicks i'd need
There's quite the variety on tap.
Thank you very much ! Was contemplating getting one... no im sure
..I have a question for someone who has taken the time to listen to the kick and it's stability.. I have a DRM MKII version with chrome knobs (not the MKIII).. I have many analog kick drum machines and modular modules.. some are very stable some wobble or change in volume.. I have noticed that the DRUM channels on DRM I MKII are unstable as far as trying to use them to make a kick drum with them.. I am wondering how stable is the KICK on the MKIII version..? ..does it wobble..? ..thank you for the answer in advance..
if i want to connect this to the beatstep pro, should i get the standard DRM1 model or the one with the 8 triggers in the back? i want to use the beatstep as the main sequencer for this vermona and maybe also record the vermona into my daw to use custom drum sounds instead of samples.
Either the MIDI or the one with triggers would work, but I'd recommend just getting the MIDI version unless you have another reason (vintage gear, modular, etc.) to do so - you only get velocity sensitivity over MIDI so that's the better way to control the DRM1 in terms of getting the most from it.
only gear i have is a MS20 mini, and minilogue nothing vintage mostly modern stuff.
The MS20 is worth using the CV/Gate controls on the BSP, but I'd stick with midi on the DRM1.
i already have the sq1 for the ms20 lol,
Hey, you should try the BSP with it as well. Or both! Use the BSP for notes and the SQ1 for other modulation. The BSP is definitely more "robust" for doing melodies in my opinion.
killer
Cool machine. I wish they would have a sequencer with this. In these days of digital, it would take up very little space.
+Digiphex Electronics little space, but I bet the price would jump up. I'm thankful for them keeping that cost down because I was actually, specifically looking for something without a sequencer as I wanted to use the BSP.
I was in a situation where the lack of the sequencer was a bonus!
Too bad there aren't any cv inputs fo parameter control, otherwise perfect IMO.
Agreed, I'm gutted that the MK-IV doesn't support CC messages for Midi, would have been an instant buy for me if it did.
Hi,
After several times watching and listen to your videos, i get convinced about buying a vermona and a beatstep pro.
I received these two devices this week.
After some days trying to understand a bit how it works, i can trigger the sounds of the vermona through de beatstep pro pads, in control mode, but,
why my beatstep pro doesn''t sound in sequecer mode?
i'm trying to record a simple pattern and i can't, i don't know why it does not trigger sounds when i turn it to drum mode.
It's connected via midi, midi out from beatstep to midi in of vermona, and the usb ac adapter, maybe i need to connect more cables?
Thanks a lot for your videos and your help.
Regards
Did you go through the midi learn process on the Vermona? If so, did you do it when the BSP in Drum mode or in Control mode?
@@OscillatorSink Hey, thank you very much for your answer, much appreciated.
Yes, i did the midi learn process on the Vermona, but in Control Mode, not in Drum Mode,
maybe it's the error?
I'm so newie with hardware gear, as much as i read the manual more confusion i get.
I will do again the midi learn process on the Vermona, but this time in drum mode.
Thanks again.
Love your channel.
@@OscillatorSink wow man, you were right, IT WORKS!!!!
now i start to understand a bit more how the sequencer works, you made me SO HAPPY, thanks a lot again!
No worries! Enjoy your new drum machine!
No worries! Enjoy your new drum machine!
Thanks for the great videos on this machine. I have a DSI Tempest, but to be honest although an amazing machine I'm getting a bit tired of the menu diving. So was actually thinking of getting the DrumBrute, but this seems very cool... I would be using it with my DAW. Is it easy to set up with MIDI?
Yeah it's really straightforward - it has default MIDI mappings but you can also put it into learn mode to set it up to your liking. It responds to velocity really well too - very expressive! But bear in mind that none of the knobs are midi controllable - just triggering the sounds with note data.
Cool, thanks. And what do think about the build quality? And how do you think it sits in the mix with other analogue and digital gear? Cheers
Build quality is top notch and it just sounds great!
Thanks again :)
Does this receive CC messages to all those controls?
No. The controls are purely analogue. Midi is for note information only.
That's a pity - imagine the possibilities! Still a great machine. Thanks for the swift reply :)
Yeah, it would be bonkers - but a lot more expensive to have all that digital control I bet!
2020 still worth it???
If you mean the "is the DRM-1 still worth it in 2020?", then I'd say yes - there's still not a lot like it if it's the kind of sound and approach that you're after.
If you mean "is 2020 still worth it?", well the jury's out on that one.
@@OscillatorSink I mean the DRM-1 for Techno stuff :))
Dude, great job on these vids man! I'm about to pull the trigger on this one, I was determined to get a MFB Tanzmaus but this is making me reconsider. Thoughts?
+Israel Flores the Tanzmaus also sounds great - really tight and precise where the Vermona is a little bit more characterful. Obviously you're getting a sequencer in the TM too, but that's not an issue if you have sequencer already, and some people aren't so fond of the work flow on the MFB. Check out some more demos though, because it's going to be the sound that wins out... I know which one I went with ;)
Ive decided that I'm going to get both! I could really use the imported samples feature on the MFB as well as the portability for live settings. I ordered the DRM1 and its on its way! Thanks for the info
+Israel Flores best day ever! You're gonna love it. Have fun and drop back and let me know how you get on!
so Israel, did you get DRM and the MFB ? :)))
@OscillatorSink Man, this things is amazing!