Thanks for this guide. Got the Live ii and DRM mk iv. Could never figure out the triggering of the hats properly. My pad layout is a bit different to yours, but it seems like it’ll be easy enough to learn and get used to. Can make full use of the DRM 1 now. 😊🙏
Hi, Thank you for this very informative video. I wanted to come back to the MIX PAN which controls the signal without FX on the left PAN and with FX on the right PAN. If I understood correctly ... We leave the left audio cable of the Vermona to the left input of the audio interface. We use the right output of the Vermona which will go into the input of the FX pedal and with a jack cable. We use another cable which will go from the output of the FX pedal to the right input of the audio interface. Thus, the left PAN of the Vermona tracks will be without FX, and when we do a right PAN, there will be the FX. Problem concerning me, when I put the PAN to the left, therefore without FX, the sound of the instruments will only be broadcast on the left and nothing on the right. ... so in my opinion, we must recover the sound in mono for this to work? Can you help me in the analysis? Kind regards
I just got my DRM1, but the power button is on the back, not the faceplate. When I hold all three buttons, nothing happens. No blink indicator, no sound indicator. I'm audio out from the DRM1 to the MPC, and midi in and out from the DRM1 to the MPC midi out and in, respectively. I'm also audio out from MPC to interface, though I also have the MPC speaker on. Any ideas?
Use the method I showed to map the Vermona to the Beatstep. You have to "teach" the Vermona what Beatstep pads to assign it to, not the other way around.
Yeah - it has some great sounds. Try this technique I showed to more easily map it to Ableton. With Ableton, it's also easy to just change the note it's triggering - so you can modify the drums to be triggered by whatever pad configuration is most comfortable for you.
hi friend, I have no idea how to get Ableton to trigger my DRM1 - I have Live Lite only, so I can't try the 'External Instrument' method. I was assuming connecting to my laptop via USB would make this a piece of cake. But I can't figure out how to trigger MIDI notes in Ableton so that I can map the drum sounds to my laptop. Any suggestions? Cheers!
oh - you know, I didn't know that that Ableton light doesn't have external instrument. You're basically going to need to have something to trigger the DRM via midi. And if you can't do that via midi, you'll need a midi controller. The Beatstep pro is an inexpensive and good option.
Hi, Do you still preffer the vermona over samples? I live in Brazil and I have a MPC 5000. Vermona is expensive here and I am in doubt if it worth it or I am just with another GAS again. I am trying not buying anything. Could you help me? Thanks.
@@AdisonMartin Ow yeah. Got mine yesterday and I am very happy. I did my ow sounds and they sound like anyone else. I understand what you say. I understood it yesterday.
Hello, thanks for this helpful video. So to map the whole Vermona channels (including hi hats) you will nbeed 12 pads? or 10? I have an 8 pads device and I think it will not work
Yes - that's another way to do it. But the Vermona defaults are all wacky. I think it's easier to change the Vermona to the "standard" notes for drums. i.e. what would work as the default on any pad controller.
hello - im using ableton and having issues getting the Hihats 1 and 2 2nd layers working...!? is it best i set up a drum rack and assign each drum sound to a pad and its own midi channel ?
I dealt with the hi-hat issue by assigning the pads I wanted to be short and long specific CC values corresponding to notes a step apart. You can do that with the Beatstep Pro, and I think most sequencers that have drum-sequencing or pads have the same capacity.
I just use the default not assignments and assign the NOTES to the pads I want to use, so I can have any layout I want, including "chord" pads for multiple drum hits. I'm using Squid.
Using pan as an aux you loose the stereo image. I'd rather go with sepouts and fx on the mixer's aux. If you don't have a mixer and are broke, an old 4 track with broken tape department may do the job for dirt cheap.
Yes - this is true. It's a trade-off. But to use a mixer to do this, you'd need an 8 channel mixer. And also, if you're using an aux, it's just going to blend the natural sound and the effects (100% wet + 100% dry). Even if you turn the aux all the way up - it's still going to blend the original signal in. Using the pan, with (lets say) just the R going to an effects chain, is that you can have a 100% wet, and 0% dry sound. I'm just making a suggestion for an alternate idea. Many ways to skin a cat with music production! You made some good suggestions too!
@@PinkBuddhaAcademy you can zero the channel fader (post-fade) and still have the wet sound. I run it through a 12/2 mixer and though it does not leave many channels for synths and 2nd drum machine, i always have 8 channels dedicated to the DRM. Sometimes if i don't use a few DRM instruments i can free them for something else, but it's really worth it having those individual outs. Got a RX5 and an MFB712 with lots of outputs too, but those i'm rather running on a stereo channel. Of course, there's no rule, no good or bad.
Thanks for this guide. Got the Live ii and DRM mk iv. Could never figure out the triggering of the hats properly. My pad layout is a bit different to yours, but it seems like it’ll be easy enough to learn and get used to. Can make full use of the DRM 1 now. 😊🙏
Just got a Vermona DRM1 and ran into this hihat issue. Cheers mate, saved me from headache!
Another thumbs up for sorting out the hi-hats.
Lol...cool cool. It's unnecessarily tricky
Hi,
Thank you for this very informative video.
I wanted to come back to the MIX PAN which controls the signal without FX on the left PAN and with FX on the right PAN.
If I understood correctly ...
We leave the left audio cable of the Vermona to the left input of the audio interface.
We use the right output of the Vermona which will go into the input of the FX pedal and with a jack cable.
We use another cable which will go from the output of the FX pedal to the right input of the audio interface.
Thus, the left PAN of the Vermona tracks will be without FX, and when we do a right PAN, there will be the FX.
Problem concerning me, when I put the PAN to the left, therefore without FX, the sound of the instruments will only be broadcast on the left and nothing on the right.
... so in my opinion, we must recover the sound in mono for this to work?
Can you help me in the analysis?
Kind regards
great drum synth but a bit tricky to setup. Hi-hats were my frustration too - thanks a lot for this info!
It loves that Karma Sutra pedal. They go together so well.
Agreed
Thanks for the hi-hat assignment tips, that was a problem for me!
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Great video - really helpful. Thanks!
I just got my DRM1, but the power button is on the back, not the faceplate. When I hold all three buttons, nothing happens. No blink indicator, no sound indicator. I'm audio out from the DRM1 to the MPC, and midi in and out from the DRM1 to the MPC midi out and in, respectively. I'm also audio out from MPC to interface, though I also have the MPC speaker on. Any ideas?
I'm using a beat step pro and can't hear the MULTI sound, no matter what method I try. Could any offer any suggestions please?
Use the method I showed to map the Vermona to the Beatstep. You have to "teach" the Vermona what Beatstep pads to assign it to, not the other way around.
Wow, great video. Thank you.
Thank you very very much, for your clearing video. Now we make beats! :)
Glad it helped
Ever since I bought the DRM1 I have had trouble with the hi-hat channels, particularly in Ableton. I love the unit though!
Yeah - it has some great sounds. Try this technique I showed to more easily map it to Ableton. With Ableton, it's also easy to just change the note it's triggering - so you can modify the drums to be triggered by whatever pad configuration is most comfortable for you.
That hi hat was in das boot
hi friend, I have no idea how to get Ableton to trigger my DRM1 - I have Live Lite only, so I can't try the 'External Instrument' method. I was assuming connecting to my laptop via USB would make this a piece of cake. But I can't figure out how to trigger MIDI notes in Ableton so that I can map the drum sounds to my laptop. Any suggestions? Cheers!
oh - you know, I didn't know that that Ableton light doesn't have external instrument. You're basically going to need to have something to trigger the DRM via midi. And if you can't do that via midi, you'll need a midi controller. The Beatstep pro is an inexpensive and good option.
Hi, Do you still preffer the vermona over samples? I live in Brazil and I have a MPC 5000. Vermona is expensive here and I am in doubt if it worth it or I am just with another GAS again. I am trying not buying anything. Could you help me? Thanks.
I would try to get samples. The hardest thing about this Vermona, is that you have to try and remember your settings.
Vermona, the drm1 is special for a reason.
@@AdisonMartin Ow yeah. Got mine yesterday and I am very happy. I did my ow sounds and they sound like anyone else. I understand what you say. I understood it yesterday.
Thanks!
Hello, thanks for this helpful video.
So to map the whole Vermona channels (including hi hats) you will nbeed 12 pads? or 10? I have an 8 pads device and I think it will not work
Yeah...if you want to map all the notes
thanks !!
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You could always change what note the pad sends to solve the whole step between hihats issue right?
Yes - that's another way to do it. But the Vermona defaults are all wacky. I think it's easier to change the Vermona to the "standard" notes for drums. i.e. what would work as the default on any pad controller.
Does any one know, can you trigger it with other drum machines? Like TR 8s for example or the old Electribe SX? Thank you.
That depends upon the external midi capabilities on those devices. I honestly don't know those that well
hello - im using ableton and having issues getting the Hihats 1 and 2 2nd layers working...!?
is it best i set up a drum rack and assign each drum sound to a pad and its own midi channel ?
You could do that. Or reprogram the DRM to be on different notes.
can the parameters/knobs dynamically be modulated via external midi?
No - just the notes (and volume) are transferred by MIDI
I dealt with the hi-hat issue by assigning the pads I wanted to be short and long specific CC values corresponding to notes a step apart. You can do that with the Beatstep Pro, and I think most sequencers that have drum-sequencing or pads have the same capacity.
I just use the default not assignments and assign the NOTES to the pads I want to use, so I can have any layout I want, including "chord" pads for multiple drum hits. I'm using Squid.
@@iqnill yes, that would be the correct way to solve that issue.
Using pan as an aux you loose the stereo image. I'd rather go with sepouts and fx on the mixer's aux. If you don't have a mixer and are broke, an old 4 track with broken tape department may do the job for dirt cheap.
Yes - this is true. It's a trade-off. But to use a mixer to do this, you'd need an 8 channel mixer. And also, if you're using an aux, it's just going to blend the natural sound and the effects (100% wet + 100% dry). Even if you turn the aux all the way up - it's still going to blend the original signal in. Using the pan, with (lets say) just the R going to an effects chain, is that you can have a 100% wet, and 0% dry sound.
I'm just making a suggestion for an alternate idea. Many ways to skin a cat with music production! You made some good suggestions too!
@@PinkBuddhaAcademy you can zero the channel fader (post-fade) and still have the wet sound. I run it through a 12/2 mixer and though it does not leave many channels for synths and 2nd drum machine, i always have 8 channels dedicated to the DRM. Sometimes if i don't use a few DRM instruments i can free them for something else, but it's really worth it having those individual outs. Got a RX5 and an MFB712 with lots of outputs too, but those i'm rather running on a stereo channel. Of course, there's no rule, no good or bad.
@@Confondeur_Ici-Bas Yes - good point. Depends upon what sort of mixer you have. Those individual outs are great to have all that flexibility.