Mother Teresa never said being poor is great ... if she did provide a reference... What she did say was that the poor are often rich in spirit.. have true Christian / humanitarian values. Being rich is not everything. An (agnostic) neighbor has just come home from hospital 40 years of over eating and excess lead to diabetes led to his leg being amputated & now clinically depressed and suicidal ... Hitchens suffered & died for his selfish overindulgence also !!
@@aine7173 What she did was monstrous, she let people die painful deaths which were entirely preventable because the pain was ‘kisses from Jesus’, she allowed her nurses to reuse dirty needles, she didn’t even provide proper beds or any form of privacy or dignity for her ‘patients’, she embezzled money for her own gain, had an enormous ego, she contributed to the spreading of HIV/AIDS and several other diseases in developing countries, judge away.
Oh so if you help someone poor you have to limit your own care to the standard of care you give. Atheists might find that easy as they seldom help the poor beyond a few $ in the collection for a world disaster or two. Such hypocrisy.
Daniel Bouhadana We now have a huge charity industry where chief executives are paid huge amounts of money. Mother Teresa was a head teacher and led a comfortable life in her order but gave it up to live quietly in a slum helping the dying for twenty years before she was found by the media .. locally Catholic “Christian Brothers” religious order established a home for those with special educational needs / mentally impaired adults ." Charity remains an important part of the church.
@Daniel Bouhadana 1 Mother Teresa said in her book "I want to help Muslims to be better Muslims Hindus to be better Hindus and Christians to be better Christians" She was criticised by the right wing of Catholicism for this and her focus for helping peoples physical state rather than going for conversions. 2 Being against contraception discourages promiscuity and is a legitimate position. 3 Taking money from evil people to help the poor is not a problem in my book. 4 Mother Teresa is part of the wonderful holy Catholic Church as I am and have had my life transformed because of this, you seem to just follow the hate media
@@1234poppycat you've completely lost all and any credibility you could have had in this conversation by your points 2 and 3. Number 2 is just not true at all and number 3 you don't care if she takes money from evil people who took money from the poor? That doesn't make any sense, I think you should rethink what you have really said.
No, many of us give to charities and go to countries and actually make things happen. People who worked closely with Mother Teresa all say the same thing: she provided no beds, those kids slept on the floor, and she provided them no medical aid. She had the money to provide healthcare for them and provided absolutely nothing but a floor to sleep on and telling them that suffering is great. Interpret that as you wish, but I view that as morally repulsive.
atee I have listened to one of her volunteers who had complete admiration for her. Hundreds went to her Calcutta Hospice because their relatives brought them there as it was the best place for them ... The money was spent on 500+ centres helping the poor She did not live a comfortable life like her self centered critics.
Doctors without borders have done more for the needy than any of your self appointed "holy" men donning gold dresses and tiara's or their flock they send out to proselytize.
Sahit You take ignorance and stupidity to new depths. ""She only helped those who converted to Christianity"" Utter nonsense. She was criticized by the Catholic right (fundamentalists) as she said all she wanted to do was make Muslims better Muslims and Hindus better Hindus... What she did in the 60's & 70's was not provide medical care as in Western hospitals .. she provided the best care available for the poor in the poorer countries. .
@@1234poppycat but she herself mother Theresa had greatest and biggest hospitals for her own treatment. It seems suffering is only for masses not for herself or for people working in her organisation. Wow what a broad mind Theresa has.
Hitchens was impressive....... to the gullible who did not have the intellect or inclination to research anything themselves. Another conspiracy theorist who milked the media appetite for the controversial, fake news and stupid.
AJA Deacon well put, the fact that we want to rely on others for information without going out of our ways to cross examine both sides has put us in the hands of intellectuals who as “good” intentions as they have they also hold faults and biases of their own, dangerous ground to worship blindly.
AJA Deacon I did research everything he said, and it all happens to be true and supported by fact. Only a conspiracy theorist would think that she was somehow some kind of saint. To call an accomplished journalist like Christopher Hitchens a conspiracy theorist is definitely a new one I haven't heard before.
As India even well into the 21st Century banned palliative care (about 2% getting it) with up to 20 years in prison for doctors who went against this (Quora Indian medical Journal (in English)) The nuns supported them as best they could -- elevating your mind to God can take away the pain at least to sone extent as my mother said as she died from Cancer ...
What about when she spent thousands of pounds of charity money to spend on flights and top health care in California, then refuse pain relief to her patients because of her psycho religious beliefs. She was a cruel woman and helped purely for belief, not for her own morals.
@@1234poppycat It’s pretty obvious from all the footage of people dying on stretchers on the floor while she was flying around the world in private jets meeting world leaders
@@j.c985 She made two trips "round the World " to the US to raise money for the poor. Two months out of 30 years in Calcutta ... no doubt you think that is living it up !!
@@1234poppycat Well where did this money go exactly because her ‘home for the dying’ was in the exact same state after she returned. She also made more trips than that, she went to Haiti to meet the Duvalier family and to Knock in Ireland to have her gargantuan ego stroked and flew to Italy several times to meet the pope and pour millions that could have been given to charity into the vatican
@@j.c985 It was a home for the dying and much better than the alternatives not a hospital ... The money went to fund nearly 500 more homes for the poor throughout the World including some in the West for the homeless - I have been to one and the nuns are saints She visited a number of places in her long life to inspire Catholics and raise money for the poor ... how terrible
Saint Teresa never promoted suffering for suffering sake. They comforted those dying. If there was better free treatment elsewhere why did their relatives not take them there? However they did not have the knowledge or skills to medically treat the poorest of the poor who could not pay for medical treatment elsewhere. It is an absurd claim by Zephaniah to claim they prevented someone going to hospital to be saved. Note no names, dates or medical persons name who has suggested he go to hospital & no explaining who was going to pay!!
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@@1234poppycat No, that is deflection with a poor understanding of the facts. She chose not to provide painkillers in many instances. A lot more could have been done. She has an obsession with suffering.
@@Pdmc-vu5gj Saint Teresa of Calcutta did her utmost to relieve suffering It was the Indian state that prevented this See Quora magazine 2017 English Language medical journal article pointing out that only 2% of the dying received appropriate palliative care medication and even if doctors could get through the bureaucracy and obtained the medicines they could face a lifetime in prison on narcotics charges Unfortunately Benjamin got his info from Hitchens who just made unsubstantiated claims to sell his books etc.
"I spoke to someone .... " No evidence .... Did he hear it from "Someone " .... She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
Saying that that suffering is beautiful and takes you near to Jesus is a very disturbing thing to say. Firstly, it is sadistic and secondly it is the darker side of paganism. Pagan symbols are used in catholic mass. Catholic churches were often built on old pagan sites. Mother Terresa sacrificed those children to the god that she believed in and as far as I’m concerned there are no such thing as saints, it is all nonsense. Mother Terresa received money from dictators and this money was got from the poor and then it went into the Vatican bank and mother Terresa institutions were deliberately underfunded. Meanwhile children were being abused in Ireland and Canada in institutions run by the Catholics. Now we here of mass graves being discovered on the sites were these institutions once were. As A child I was taught that because, I was born out of wedlock, I wasn’t to be happy like other children and that, in fact, suffering was good as it brought me closer to the catholic god. In between torture sessions the catholic foster mother used to read me stories of “holy nuns” who slept on broken crockery. I have suffered decades of mental health problems because of the abuse I suffered as a child. The catholic church is evil and always will be and it is sado-masochistic in nature. The catholic clergy should never be allowed near children, even to bring a child into a catholic church is abuse. First, there is a statue of a man nailed to a cross with blood dripping out of his various wounds. On the walls are pictures, stages of the cross, of him being slowly and cruelly put to death. Then they drink his blood and eat his flesh and children are told that their protestant friends will burn in hell for all eternity. The catholic church is absolutely evil!
Well you got that wrong. She encouraged giving from all for the poorest. It was not "Her" empire it was a religious order devoted to the poor, mostly to cater for their physical needs. Hitchens has had his reward in this world.
xZ You seem to rejoice in your ignorance. 1/ It is absurd and without evidence to say Mother Teresa stole from the poor. 2/ The Catholic Church has historically around 1% of priests who have abused / watched abuse on the internet. Totally wrong but this is much less than other groups .. 3/ Why dont you get some facts before you make a fool of yourself ??
AJA Deacon Fine, 1) I will concede she did not steal. She or her organization just took money donated on the impression that it will be used on the poor and used it for other purposes. Completely different things.2) Also it is a scandal not because there was abuse, but the leadership actively obstructed justuce. You cannot blame people for not trusting your cult if your leaders do things like this. 3) It is well documented that the Catholic church doctored many parts of the Bible. The nonsense in the New Testament is the result of its narrative being based on a badly translated Old Testament. For example, you will never find a claim in the Torah of a Virgin birth. Also you cannot got around stoning people, that is not how the Rabbinc court works. You need things like a jury and witnesses. Christians would know all these by reading the text of the book attached to the front of the NT. It is unclear if Jesus existed, but many elements of NT are clearly made up by later scribes. 2000 years of antisemitism based on a lie. The Catholic Church has much to apologize for in this world.
Religion rots your brain to the point where you think suffering is fun,sex is sinful,your body is polluted,and a sky ghost will burn you if you don't suck up to him on bended knee,for all your days....fantastic,wish I belonged to a cult
@@active6302 wow! A response from a 7 year old post. My opinions have changed so much since then I can’t even imagine what I was commenting on. Whatever it was, I’m certain my comment was probably too harsh and uncharitable.
What truth? That she took a donation from a dictator in haiti? It's not her job to re-distribute the money back to the Haitians, it went directly back into the vatican and the holy see which used the money to create hospitals, schools, and orphanages. Benjamin Zephaniah is an idiot who should make sure he knows what he's talking about before opening his mouth to insult.
Her medical care was paid for by her supporters for the care she needed . She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. During the time of Mother Teresa they pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers in the Calcutta centre describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ......
Born and raised Irish Catholic and attending Catholic school (we had pictures of MT and the Pope at the head of the class - North Korea style) I placed her at the level Catholics place the Virgin Mary herself. As a free thinking adult, and with all the other “crap” brought to light in the past couple of decades, I no longer consider myself a practicing Catholic. It is a religion as corrupt as a late-night evangelistic healer on a global scale going back almost 2 millennia! Don’t get me wrong, like other religions, followers are good, decent, charitable people but it is all corrupted by a greedy hierarchy only interested in retaining its influence through money and followers.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
I live in India and have seen how missionaries work.Their "help" comes with strings attached.It is very rarely selfless service.All this woman did was look for more "souls to harvest" for the church. There are many non christian organizations in India that feed the poor and provide them with medical assistance.they never get the same kind of publicity that teresa got.I love it when supporters of this woman do not tolerate any dissent even if it is the truth, but love to ridicule other faiths.
In one of her books she wrote "I want Hindus to become better Hindus Muslims to be better Muslims and Catholics to be better Catholics " Mother Teresa was adamant no one should be turned away -- even when they could barely cope with the numbers they had.. Mother Teresa had been quietly working with the poor and destitute in Calcutta since 1949 until the cameras arrived in the late 60's
a crystal clear example of rational hijacking by religious dogma. This woman has followed a prescription of pain = love into a realm of actual suffering where there can be no appreciation in the victim for a love that cannot felt due to the crippling effects of pain and suffering towards eventual death. This woman, this advocate of another person's unrelenting suffering, should be struck off the NHS patient list for a temporarily long period and any medical treatment denied to her since she thinks that subjective suffering is noble. Then she might have second thoughts about taking her beliefs too far. It's a tremendous feat of hubris and frankly a sign of deep pathology in a person who is not only indifferent to another person's pain but consciously supressing any internal pangs of empathic understanding.
You have not got a clue. It is only in the last 30 years that most of the World has had access to pain killing drugs. Pain was not an option but a way of life. "Offering it up" was a spiritual and psychological way to cope with the pain.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
I remember one woman who volunteered at one of Teresa's "missions" ("Hell's Angel" - the Hitchens documentary) saying that the place reminded her of Bergen-Belsen. Teresa was anything but a saint.
@dieulivol you are so right The centre in Calcutta was a home for the dying where their relatives took them there as nowhere else was able to care for them as much as the sisters centre. Obviously Bergen Belson was a place for the dying / murdered who were deliberately starved.
There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering.” Mother Teresa
. She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
So "Benjamin Zephaniah "He heard an example about a boy" passes on an uncorroborated story and everyone almost everyone treats it as truth. I have directly listened to one of her volunteers she said "the nuns work for the dying with such love and attention it puts me to shame, they are all saints. Mother has in her book "I want Muslims to be better Muslims Hindus to be better Hindus and Christians to be better Christians" she has been criticised because she places little focus on saving souls but the pressing need is their comfort and love for them before they die""
If that was the case then she failed miserably. She helped the terminally ill She made their suffering less otherwise their relatives would not have brought them there .... I have read large parts of Hitchens book (missionary position ) and listened to Benjamin Zephaniah on Mother Teresa ........ My first (Grad) Qualification being History taught me that supposition can be a starting point but it depends on verifiable evidence .. Benjamin basically tells people what they want to hear --- confirms prejudices but all this is with scant evidence that would not stand academic scrutiny .... 1 No evidence or paper trail to show money ending up in the Vatican 2 $35 million in a very good year came in to the sisters of Charity that have nearly 500 centres 3 Bathing in lukewarm water in a hot country is not suffering !! 4/ One person had evidence of her limited involvement others who claim to be there did not not give any evidence that they were at the centre .... 5/ I have heard first-hand from a volunteer who produced hundreds of pictures of her two years with the nuns who she described as living saints .. Her only criticism was that they would not turn people away even though they were overworked 60+ hours a week + time spent saying prayers etc in the religious order chapel . 6 As for your / Hitchens claim that they could not receive visitors I have seen dozens of pictures of the mostly elderly with relatives visiting AND she told me family and friends are encouraged to come and hep with feeding etc ... It actually makes me angry that people could tell such lies to live a wealthy lifestyle criticising people who help the poor so much and do nothing himself except lead a wealthy lifestyle >>
@japjapi Vatican City is a world heritage site that all people Catholics and non Catholics can visit. Entry to St Peters Square and the basillica itself is free. At times entry is restricted such as Easter Ceremonies etc. when you must obtain a ticket (no fee - its just a security measure). You have to pay to visit the museums. The gardens and the living quarters and offices are private - obviously.
All these guys criticizing MT have left the third world home and embraced the abundance of the first world. MT left the first world and worked in the third world these guys left...for the poor. The irony of it. The hypocrisy of it!
@@thecinematicmind As someone who has worked with MT sisters for two years, intermittently, I can assure you, the poor got a better treatment than they could have. The fact that they did not get the best treatment doesn't mean that the poor were treated badly..... Something is always better than nothing. Anyone who has visited the streets of Kalighatt, Kolkota would agree that MT did something beautiful.
I wish Mr Zephaniah would listen to the truth .... She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@@1234poppycat Thanks for your insights. Although Christopher Hitchens has gone into detail behind the image of mother Theresa and validity between her supposed humanitarian credientials. Mr Zephaniah does not have time in a short chat programme to go into the details of how the western and Indian media euologise the late mother Theresa and question what she was actually doing. It is valid to pose such questions and investigate further. Michael Parenti also went into detail behind the image of a 'saint'
@@Zeitaluq Christopher Hitchens has been evasive when asked about specific’s and to give corroborative evidence. He is a media celebrity and if you brought any kind of analytic rigour you would always find him wanting. The most. Obvious was his claim that mother Teresa liked suffering. Yet they were denied palliative medication. Even decades later. Quora magazine a Indian medical journal estimated in all of India only around 2% of the population received proper palliative care !!!
You have been active on this thread for over two years. The other rebuttals have been extensive with thorough evidences that you have consistently ignored or not answered properly elsewhere in those comments. Dr Aroup Chatterjee has gone into through detail and it was his work that brought to the attention of Christopher Hitchens what this fake personality of 'mother' Teresa really was. For those reading refer to Mother Teresa: The Untold Story by Dr Aroup Chatterjee and Hitchens did go into further details and specific arguments and rebuttals about the fake image made around the Albanian 'nun' mostly eulogised in western countries. As for India's lack of palliative care that does not spare the indifference and opportunism of 'mother' Teresa and her group of convents you can thank Capitalism for that whilst the media distracts people with fake 'saintly' people.
Suffering just for the sake of suffering, that is lunacy. Suffering for the sake of doing something good for others and society - I can find meaning in that suffering. If Mother Teresa was promoting suffering for the sake of it then she was not following Jesus. She will be in Hell. If on the other hand, she was doing something good for the society (I do not see any evidence though) and as a consequence had suffering for herself and others then she was following Jesus.
Saint Teresa never promoted suffering for suffering sake. They comforted those dying. If there was better free treatment elsewhere why did their relatives not take them there? However they did not have the knowledge or skills to medically treat the poorest of the poor who could not pay for medical treatment elsewhere. It is an absurd claim by Zephaniah to claim they prevented someone going to hospital to be saved. Note no names, dates or medical persons name who has suggested he go to hospital & no explaining who was going to pay!!
But….the world loved her. She is a household name who was a great mascot for the Catholic Church. She sold an image of herself as a saint when she was only doing “good” for the Catholic Church. Criticizing her doesn’t amount to crucifixion, but the pain of some of the people she exploited for her PR “help the poor” bullshit might compare…
@@candicefrost4561 You have just proved Psalmsurfer right !!! She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
Mother Theresa has been applauded by atholics and evangelist just to attract people to accept and get converted Christianity!! There are n number of Hindhu / Jain social organisations who silently take care of the needy cancerous patients!! Their services are not even known to their next street dwellers!! Many orphanages are in operation in India solely by the support of Hindhus but these organisation main intention is to convert orphaned children!! I stopped donating any money to these NGOs on seeing their activity!! Mother Theresa do not deserve any saint hood or any ordinary hood for that matter!!
yes but if she had made a mission to help these people to raise their status no! wait a minute they are not allowed because of the caste system? The authorities in India are trying to break a caster which has been going for centuries, this has something to do with it. There are schemes helping poor people to become self sufficient by giving them especially the women a few chickens and financial to start them on their way and then they can help someone else . but this was not tried with her. she just wanted to keep them in the same situation so who was right MT or the Indian government? .
She had a mission to help the poorest of the poor.... The terminally ill ... Other catholic Charities are focused on development .... CAFOD Aid to the Church in need Mill Hill etc etc.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
I have read large parts of Hitchens book (missionary position ) and listened to Benjamin Zephaniah on Mother Teresa ........ My first (Grad) Qualification being History taught me that supposition can be a starting point but it depends on verifiable evidence .. Benjamin basically tells people what they want to hear --- confirms prejudices but all this is with scant evidence that would not stand academic scrutiny .... 1 No evidence or paper trail to show money ending up in the Vatican 2 $35 million in a very good year came in to the sisters of Charity that have nearly 500 centres 3 Bathing in lukewarm water in a hot country is not suffering !! 4/ One person had evidence of her limited involvement others who claim to be there did not not give any evidence 5/ I have heard first-hand from a volunteer who produced hundreds of pictures of her two years with the nuns who she described as living saints .. Her only criticism was that they would not turn people away even though they were overworked 60+ hours a week + time spent saying prayers etc in the religious order chapel . 6 As for your / Hitchens claim that they could not receive visitors I have seen dozens of pictures of the mostly elderly with relatives visiting AND she told me family and friends are encouraged to come and hep with feeding etc ... It actually makes me angry that people could tell such lies to live a wealthy lifestyle criticising people who help the poor so much and do nothing himself except lead a wealthy lifestyle >>
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
To the loon on the show in the glasses, yeah, she went TO the poor.....only to try and convert them on the spot before they croaked. What a twisted, cruel person she could be.
Someone please shut the mouth of that catholic adjutor! I'd like to see how she would feel if it was her being mistreated and abused while slowly dying!
That women didnt say they lied but continue to defend mother Theresa lol make that make sense. People like that will definitely take part in harming others if they can benefit from it
History will always repeat it self. What he is saying, has been said since the dawn of civilisation. "We" all agree with "him" wright now. Even, when we are struggling in the anguish of our lives, we are searching for the point in our life. In my case: childhood.
Stopping poor people from getting the medical help they need when they can actually get it and letting them die..yeah that's evil..like what did she tell that kid God will open the clouds and angels will come and save you? Well god made it so that the kid had medical help right down the street...smh..
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
"To help the dying" Look love, theres only 2 ways you can help the dying: • Either you kill them quickly and painlessly, • or you SAVE THEIR FUCKING LIVES Now i dont know God on a personal level, but im pretty sure... he prefers the 2nd option instead of just being there and praying over a dying person. God in heaven like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! SAVE THEM!!! I MADE YOU MY STEWART NOT TO FUCKING DICK ABOUT AND PRAY OVER DYING PEOPLE BUT TO SAVE THEM!!"
The host should have given sufficient time to really grill that Catholic woman on this issue. Her unlimited and unquestioned faith in Mother Theresa should have been questioned to the point of resolution. I can't stand the letting go of issues so swiftly which you always see on shows like this.
I understand that people would simply lie down and die in the streets before she started taking them in. As a leader of a mission her job would have been to organise and lead the helpers and to raise funds to increase the effectiveness and grow the mission into other locations full of poverty. The purpose of the mission was to give people somewhere safe to die in peace away from the road traffic and back alleyways, she was not able to provide a hospital service, these are dying people. Mattresses would have been impossible to keep clean in the heat with vermin running everywhere. Along with the basic needs of thousands of dying people in many locations, money was needed to feed all those helpers, to provide transport services to collect the dying and to have their bodies disposed of and to travel to wealthy nations in order to raise money to grow the mission. Remember she was a simple person from a peasant background displaced by communism. Hitchens understands little but judges with disgusting arrogance. Who are we to judge her, the recipients of her work were grateful for her assistance because nobody else cared enough to help. People expect too much from a simple woman who acted instead of looking away and passing on by the first dying person she came across and she continued this mission until she died herself. Oh it's so easy to sit up in your ivory tower condemning others when you stand by and do nothing yourselves. God strongly opposes contraception and abortion too. After all He is the creator, Satan is the destroyer! Abstain if you don't want children, don't kill them.
Why is the woman beside him shaking her head when he says that Mother Teresa's Death House should be a modern hospital by now? What is it about religious fundamentalism and sadism? Its like they get off on it.
Probably because when her work of 20 years was publicised in 1969 more hospitals and aid was brought in by other organisations and the need gradually was reduced..
Probably because when her work of 20 years was publicised in 1969 more hospitals and aid was brought in by other organisations and the need gradually was reduced..
Probably because when her work of 20 years was publicised in 1969 more hospitals and aid was brought in by other organisations and the need gradually was reduced..
@Herdewelle I doubt that. For one, most people fall within the middle class. Secondly, Having read about gays, native alaskans and other groups that suffer poverty and a feeling of hopelessness have high suicide rates. Debt looming over your head, not having security, feelings of failure,etc those lead to suicide.
So they just admitted to this woman having the funds to make the necessary improvements and she chose not to. How is that not evil?? She enjoyed watching pple suffer and tricked the whole world into thinking she gave a damn smh.....
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
One little known fact about MT: She was at heart an Albanian nationalist and expansionist. She laid a bouquet on the tomb of Enver Hoxha (a dictator who encouraged Albanian nationalism, yet persecuted MT's own church) and laid a wreath on the "Greater Albania" monument (which was a movement to incorporate territories in Yugoslavia and Greece into the Albanian homeland). I can undestand arguments about her "forgiving" Hoxha, but honouring "Greater Albania" is wholly indifensible.
Oh And Benjamin, Mother Theresa never gave money to the "Vatican" - she did setup a soup kitchen for the homeless in Rome which is based in the Vatican and still exists today
Mother Teresa was a monster and the manipulation of the media made her celebrated as a good person. The truth about her is similar to human history. Reality of horror vs rose colored heroes and saints. Shame.
As Osho says, Mother Theresa needs the poor or else she will run out of business. Do you think she doesn't want any poor people, any orphans in the world? She wants as many as possible.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@monaghaned helped a few dozen people. This woman was given large amounts of money none of which went to improving the lives and conditions of these people. She gave them a place to die, offered them no medical aid, and was not interested in preserving their lives, only in preserving their "souls". The money she had at her disposal could have fed the entire city of calcutta for years yet she demanded her home of the dying stayed in its continually dismal state. She's a disgusting human being.
This is a classic case of arm chair critics trying to bring down a woman that really helped people in the poorest and darkest parts of the world and to top it all off; from a reformed domestic abuser! People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
You probably will not be when you consider he did not present one piece of verifiable evidence .... She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
NickH6789 Maybe, when I am not utilizing those 'services' as a scapegoat to run what was quite possibly the biggest religious scam in the past century.
Once you actually know what the Mutha was like you never understand how almost psychopathic she was about suffering. I wish she had suffered. By the way Christopher Hitchens really shows her for what she is and his documentary about her is staggering in showing how horrible she really was. And some how she won the Nobel Peace Prize, but then so did Obama, and Trump has had his name put about too!! Here's Hitchen's piece... th-cam.com/video/7srDhc0XZuI/w-d-xo.html
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
If that wasn't Mother Teresa's mission then she shouldn't have taken money she didn't need from people. She was an appalling tyrant full of doubt and false modesty who . To mask her own crisis of faith she insisted on that leap from the dying and the suffering.
"You never hear people who are poor and suffering saying its great, its wonderful"
Indeed
Mother Teresa never said being poor is great ... if she did provide a reference... What she did say was that the poor are often rich in spirit.. have true Christian / humanitarian values. Being rich is not everything. An (agnostic) neighbor has just come home from hospital 40 years of over eating and excess lead to diabetes led to his leg being amputated & now clinically depressed and suicidal ... Hitchens suffered & died for his selfish overindulgence also !!
The day I get off my arse and do halve what Mother Theresa has done. Then ill judge her.
@@aine7173 What she did was monstrous, she let people die painful deaths which were entirely preventable because the pain was ‘kisses from Jesus’, she allowed her nurses to reuse dirty needles, she didn’t even provide proper beds or any form of privacy or dignity for her ‘patients’, she embezzled money for her own gain, had an enormous ego, she contributed to the spreading of HIV/AIDS and several other diseases in developing countries, judge away.
@@aine7173 guess we could say the same about Hitler ♡♡
"She could have at least give them beds"
Sounds like a Monty Python skit
And when mother Teresa needed treatment she flew straight to Switzerland
Oh so if you help someone poor you have to limit your own care to the standard of care you give. Atheists might find that easy as they seldom help the poor beyond a few $ in the collection for a world disaster or two. Such hypocrisy.
One of the best places for health care in the world...
Daniel Bouhadana We now have a huge charity industry where chief executives are paid huge amounts of money. Mother Teresa was a head teacher and led a comfortable life in her order but gave it up to live quietly in a slum helping the dying for twenty years before she was found by the media .. locally Catholic “Christian Brothers” religious order established a home for those with special educational needs / mentally impaired adults ." Charity remains an important part of the church.
@Daniel Bouhadana 1 Mother Teresa said in her book "I want to help Muslims to be better Muslims Hindus to be better Hindus and Christians to be better Christians" She was criticised by the right wing of Catholicism for this and her focus for helping peoples physical state rather than going for conversions. 2 Being against contraception discourages promiscuity and is a legitimate position. 3 Taking money from evil people to help the poor is not a problem in my book. 4 Mother Teresa is part of the wonderful holy Catholic Church as I am and have had my life transformed because of this, you seem to just follow the hate media
@@1234poppycat you've completely lost all and any credibility you could have had in this conversation by your points 2 and 3. Number 2 is just not true at all and number 3 you don't care if she takes money from evil people who took money from the poor? That doesn't make any sense, I think you should rethink what you have really said.
No, many of us give to charities and go to countries and actually make things happen. People who worked closely with Mother Teresa all say the same thing: she provided no beds, those kids slept on the floor, and she provided them no medical aid. She had the money to provide healthcare for them and provided absolutely nothing but a floor to sleep on and telling them that suffering is great. Interpret that as you wish, but I view that as morally repulsive.
atee I have listened to one of her volunteers who had complete admiration for her. Hundreds went to her Calcutta Hospice because their relatives brought them there as it was the best place for them ... The money was spent on 500+ centres helping the poor She did not live a comfortable life like her self centered critics.
Doctors without borders have done more for the needy than any of your self appointed "holy" men donning gold dresses and tiara's or their flock they send out to proselytize.
Sahit You take ignorance and stupidity to new depths. ""She only helped those who converted to Christianity"" Utter nonsense. She was criticized by the Catholic right (fundamentalists) as she said all she wanted to do was make Muslims better Muslims and Hindus better Hindus... What she did in the 60's & 70's was not provide medical care as in Western hospitals .. she provided the best care available for the poor in the poorer countries. .
atee12321 where the money goes then?
@@1234poppycat but she herself mother Theresa had greatest and biggest hospitals for her own treatment. It seems suffering is only for masses not for herself or for people working in her organisation. Wow what a broad mind Theresa has.
Christopher Hitchens is good on this subject....
Danny Smith that's because he's a god among men. Well, was. We miss Hitchens 😢😢
Hitchens was impressive....... to the gullible who did not have the intellect or inclination to research anything themselves. Another conspiracy theorist who milked the media appetite for the controversial, fake news and stupid.
AJA Deacon well put, the fact that we want to rely on others for information without going out of our ways to cross examine both sides has put us in the hands of intellectuals who as “good” intentions as they have they also hold faults and biases of their own, dangerous ground to worship blindly.
AJA Deacon I did research everything he said, and it all happens to be true and supported by fact. Only a conspiracy theorist would think that she was somehow some kind of saint. To call an accomplished journalist like Christopher Hitchens a conspiracy theorist is definitely a new one I haven't heard before.
Hay... You said "I did research everything he said, and it all happens to be true" Your (misplaced) devotion to Hitchens is touching but pathetic.
Mother Theresa thought suffering was important as long as she wasn't doing the suffering.
Wrong. She was obviously just pure evil.
No!!!! In her own words she believed the suffering of the dying brought them closer to god!! A true narcissist!😠
As India even well into the 21st Century banned palliative care (about 2% getting it) with up to 20 years in prison for doctors who went against this (Quora Indian medical Journal (in English)) The nuns supported them as best they could -- elevating your mind to God can take away the pain at least to sone extent as my mother said as she died from Cancer ...
Jezus: "so help people who suffer"
Theresa: "so they have to suffer in your name"
What about when she spent thousands of pounds of charity money to spend on flights and top health care in California, then refuse pain relief to her patients because of her psycho religious beliefs. She was a cruel woman and helped purely for belief, not for her own morals.
Jon you certainly swallowed the stupidity and fiction being spouted. Care to provide any evidence for your naive statements ???
@@1234poppycat It’s pretty obvious from all the footage of people dying on stretchers on the floor while she was flying around the world in private jets meeting world leaders
@@j.c985 She made two trips "round the World " to the US to raise money for the poor. Two months out of 30 years in Calcutta ... no doubt you think that is living it up !!
@@1234poppycat Well where did this money go exactly because her ‘home for the dying’ was in the exact same state after she returned. She also made more trips than that, she went to Haiti to meet the Duvalier family and to Knock in Ireland to have her gargantuan ego stroked and flew to Italy several times to meet the pope and pour millions that could have been given to charity into the vatican
@@j.c985 It was a home for the dying and much better than the alternatives not a hospital ... The money went to fund nearly 500 more homes for the poor throughout the World including some in the West for the homeless - I have been to one and the nuns are saints She visited a number of places in her long life to inspire Catholics and raise money for the poor ... how terrible
Benjamin Zephaniah is always a breath of fresh air, a real free thinker, a brilliant man.
and a big fucking liar, you forgot to mention that.
...'I heard a story'...yeah Benjamin. You've been hiding your mediocrity by co-opting victimhood all your life...That's your story Benny bruv.
Daz White = waste of sperm
Apart from his acting, poetry and activism yeah his story is 'co-opting victimhood'. What are you talking about he's a British institution?
Saint Teresa never promoted suffering for suffering sake. They comforted those dying. If there was better free treatment elsewhere why did their relatives not take them there? However they did not have the knowledge or skills to medically treat the poorest of the poor who could not pay for medical treatment elsewhere. It is an absurd claim by Zephaniah to claim they prevented someone going to hospital to be saved. Note no names, dates or medical persons name who has suggested he go to hospital & no explaining who was going to pay!!
I am from Calcutta myself. This is in the right direction as a lot of the negative side has always been covered up..
No you are probably a Hindu who is rightly ashamed that this was left to Christians - Catholics to help look after Hindu poor ..
the gold standard of this arguement is chris hitchens documentary on the subject.
Hitchens had plenty of opinion, little fact, typical of an alcoholic.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@@1234poppycat No, that is deflection with a poor understanding of the facts. She chose not to provide painkillers in many instances. A lot more could have been done. She has an obsession with suffering.
@@Pdmc-vu5gj Saint Teresa of Calcutta did her utmost to relieve suffering It was the Indian state that prevented this See Quora magazine 2017 English Language medical journal article pointing out that only 2% of the dying received appropriate palliative care medication and even if doctors could get through the bureaucracy and obtained the medicines they could face a lifetime in prison on narcotics charges Unfortunately Benjamin got his info from Hitchens who just made unsubstantiated claims to sell his books etc.
If you want to see an amazing example of one man who uplifted the poorest people, look up Lee Kuan Yew.
If there is a hell, she is there right now.
Plus the people who were running that charity. One example who much money. Did they make from all the Babies they sold.
Mother Theresa got away with murder.
Not to mention the money floating about the Catholic Church !
I spoke to someone who had visited M T
"I spoke to someone .... " No evidence .... Did he hear it from "Someone " .... She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
Saying that that suffering is beautiful and takes you near to Jesus is a very disturbing thing to say. Firstly, it is sadistic and secondly it is the darker side of paganism. Pagan symbols are used in catholic mass. Catholic churches were often built on old pagan sites. Mother Terresa sacrificed those children to the god that she believed in and as far as I’m concerned there are no such thing as saints, it is all nonsense. Mother Terresa received money from dictators and this money was got from the poor and then it went into the Vatican bank and mother Terresa institutions were deliberately underfunded. Meanwhile children were being abused in Ireland and Canada in institutions run by the Catholics. Now we here of mass graves being discovered on the sites were these institutions once were. As A child I was taught that because, I was born out of wedlock, I wasn’t to be happy like other children and that, in fact, suffering was good as it brought me closer to the catholic god. In between torture sessions the catholic foster mother used to read me stories of “holy nuns” who slept on broken crockery. I have suffered decades of mental health problems because of the abuse I suffered as a child. The catholic church is evil and always will be and it is sado-masochistic in nature. The catholic clergy should never be allowed near children, even to bring a child into a catholic church is abuse. First, there is a statue of a man nailed to a cross with blood dripping out of his various wounds. On the walls are pictures, stages of the cross, of him being slowly and cruelly put to death. Then they drink his blood and eat his flesh and children are told that their protestant friends will burn in hell for all eternity. The catholic church is absolutely evil!
Their is more hope for atheist Christopher Hitchens than for Teresa at least he tells the truth about her
You are either stupid or an anti Christian who swallows all the anti Catholic hate without question.
Please, Hitchens is probably in a much less hot place than one who takes money from the poor on false pretenses to build her own empire.
Well you got that wrong. She encouraged giving from all for the poorest. It was not "Her" empire it was a religious order devoted to the poor, mostly to cater for their physical needs. Hitchens has had his reward in this world.
xZ You seem to rejoice in your ignorance. 1/ It is absurd and without evidence to say Mother Teresa stole from the poor. 2/ The Catholic Church has historically around 1% of priests who have abused / watched abuse on the internet. Totally wrong but this is much less than other groups .. 3/ Why dont you get some facts before you make a fool of yourself ??
AJA Deacon Fine, 1) I will concede she did not steal. She or her organization just took money donated on the impression that it will be used on the poor and used it for other purposes. Completely different things.2) Also it is a scandal not because there was abuse, but the leadership actively obstructed justuce. You cannot blame people for not trusting your cult if your leaders do things like this. 3) It is well documented that the Catholic church doctored many parts of the Bible. The nonsense in the New Testament is the result of its narrative being based on a badly translated Old Testament. For example, you will never find a claim in the Torah of a Virgin birth. Also you cannot got around stoning people, that is not how the Rabbinc court works. You need things like a jury and witnesses. Christians would know all these by reading the text of the book attached to the front of the NT. It is unclear if Jesus existed, but many elements of NT are clearly made up by later scribes. 2000 years of antisemitism based on a lie. The Catholic Church has much to apologize for in this world.
Does anyone else think the woman with the glasses has rotted her brain with religion to the point where it no longer functions properly?
Religion rots your brain to the point where you think suffering is fun,sex is sinful,your body is polluted,and a sky ghost will burn you if you don't suck up to him on bended knee,for all your days....fantastic,wish I belonged to a cult
I thought she was going to ask, what Hole did JESUS SHIT out His FOOD. And If He Gave It The HOLY WIPE.
I think she is a true believing Catholic, and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@active6302 wow! A response from a 7 year old post. My opinions have changed so much since then I can’t even imagine what I was commenting on. Whatever it was, I’m certain my comment was probably too harsh and uncharitable.
@@playapapapa23 right
A lot of "Charities" are nothing more than rackets.
Benjamin Zephaniah thank you for the truth.
What truth? That she took a donation from a dictator in haiti? It's not her job to re-distribute the money back to the Haitians, it went directly back into the vatican and the holy see which used the money to create hospitals, schools, and orphanages. Benjamin Zephaniah is an idiot who should make sure he knows what he's talking about before opening his mouth to insult.
Her medical care was paid for by her supporters for the care she needed . She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. During the time of Mother Teresa they pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers in the Calcutta centre describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ......
At least Mother Teresa gave them watered down Broth before they died.
Born and raised Irish Catholic and attending Catholic school (we had pictures of MT and the Pope at the head of the class - North Korea style) I placed her at the level Catholics place the Virgin Mary herself. As a free thinking adult, and with all the other “crap” brought to light in the past couple of decades, I no longer consider myself a practicing Catholic. It is a religion as corrupt as a late-night evangelistic healer on a global scale going back almost 2 millennia!
Don’t get me wrong, like other religions, followers are good, decent, charitable people but it is all corrupted by a greedy hierarchy only interested in retaining its influence through money and followers.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@astrophonix She didn't use it to benefit herself. She used it to setup hospitals for the suffering.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji said that God resides in us, and if we illicit pain to our body, we are hurting God. So true
I live in India and have seen how missionaries work.Their "help" comes with strings attached.It is very rarely selfless service.All this woman did was look for more "souls to harvest" for the church. There are many non christian organizations in India that feed the poor and provide them with medical assistance.they never get the same kind of publicity that teresa got.I love it when supporters of this woman do not tolerate any dissent even if it is the truth, but love to ridicule other faiths.
In one of her books she wrote "I want Hindus to become better Hindus Muslims to be better Muslims and Catholics to be better Catholics " Mother Teresa was adamant no one should be turned away -- even when they could barely cope with the numbers they had.. Mother Teresa had been quietly working with the poor and destitute in Calcutta since 1949 until the cameras arrived in the late 60's
modern science is a miracle
a crystal clear example of rational hijacking by religious dogma. This woman has followed a prescription of pain = love into a realm of actual suffering where there can be no appreciation in the victim for a love that cannot felt due to the crippling effects of pain and suffering towards eventual death. This woman, this advocate of another person's unrelenting suffering, should be struck off the NHS patient list for a temporarily long period and any medical treatment denied to her since she thinks that subjective suffering is noble. Then she might have second thoughts about taking her beliefs too far. It's a tremendous feat of hubris and frankly a sign of deep pathology in a person who is not only indifferent to another person's pain but consciously supressing any internal pangs of empathic understanding.
You have not got a clue. It is only in the last 30 years that most of the World has had access to pain killing drugs. Pain was not an option but a way of life. "Offering it up" was a spiritual and psychological way to cope with the pain.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
I remember one woman who volunteered at one of Teresa's "missions" ("Hell's Angel" - the Hitchens documentary) saying that the place reminded her of Bergen-Belsen.
Teresa was anything but a saint.
@dieulivol you are so right The centre in Calcutta was a home for the dying where their relatives took them there as nowhere else was able to care for them as much as the sisters centre. Obviously Bergen Belson was a place for the dying / murdered who were deliberately starved.
@raserianfald you are the simpleton. You are more likely % to be an abuser.
I saw Benjamin today x he was brilliant
"miracles" was a good place to cut the video lol. Totally agree with Benjamin - she was offering palliative care when there were medical solutions
And it wasn't even palliative care.
There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering.”
Mother Teresa
. She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
So "Benjamin Zephaniah "He heard an example about a boy" passes on an uncorroborated story and everyone almost everyone treats it as truth. I have directly listened to one of her volunteers she said "the nuns work for the dying with such love and attention it puts me to shame, they are all saints. Mother has in her book "I want Muslims to be better Muslims Hindus to be better Hindus and Christians to be better Christians" she has been criticised because she places little focus on saving souls but the pressing need is their comfort and love for them before they die""
she was not who she was shown to be
@@gauthampai896 certainly not what Benjamin claims
Her mission was to keep people in a condition of suffering ...her theory was that they were closer to god that way
If that was the case then she failed miserably. She helped the terminally ill She made their suffering less otherwise their relatives would not have brought them there .... I have read large parts of Hitchens book (missionary position ) and listened to Benjamin Zephaniah on Mother Teresa ........ My first (Grad) Qualification being History taught me that supposition can be a starting point but it depends on verifiable evidence .. Benjamin basically tells people what they want to hear --- confirms prejudices but all this is with scant evidence that would not stand academic scrutiny .... 1 No evidence or paper trail to show money ending up in the Vatican 2 $35 million in a very good year came in to the sisters of Charity that have nearly 500 centres 3 Bathing in lukewarm water in a hot country is not suffering !! 4/ One person had evidence of her limited involvement others who claim to be there did not not give any evidence that they were at the centre .... 5/ I have heard first-hand from a volunteer who produced hundreds of pictures of her two years with the nuns who she described as living saints .. Her only criticism was that they would not turn people away even though they were overworked 60+ hours a week + time spent saying prayers etc in the religious order chapel . 6 As for your / Hitchens claim that they could not receive visitors I have seen dozens of pictures of the mostly elderly with relatives visiting AND she told me family and friends are encouraged to come and hep with feeding etc ... It actually makes me angry that people could tell such lies to live a wealthy lifestyle criticising people who help the poor so much and do nothing himself except lead a wealthy lifestyle >>
Mother Teresa the FRAUD!!??
The selling of babies as well.
I will pray for you all that God may open your eyes to see the TRUTH.
Blind people guiding other blind people.
@japjapi Vatican City is a world heritage site that all people Catholics and non Catholics can visit. Entry to St Peters Square and the basillica itself is free. At times entry is restricted such as Easter Ceremonies etc. when you must obtain a ticket (no fee - its just a security measure). You have to pay to visit the museums. The gardens and the living quarters and offices are private - obviously.
Well said mate...
All these guys criticizing MT have left the third world home and embraced the abundance of the first world. MT left the first world and worked in the third world these guys left...for the poor.
The irony of it.
The hypocrisy of it!
MT treated the poor as a graveyard.
@@thecinematicmind
As someone who has worked with MT sisters for two years, intermittently, I can assure you, the poor got a better treatment than they could have.
The fact that they did not get the best treatment doesn't mean that the poor were treated badly.....
Something is always better than nothing.
Anyone who has visited the streets of Kalighatt, Kolkota would agree that MT did something beautiful.
Truth to power Mr Zephaniah!
I wish Mr Zephaniah would listen to the truth .... She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@@1234poppycat Thanks for your insights. Although Christopher Hitchens has gone into detail behind the image of mother Theresa and validity between her supposed humanitarian credientials. Mr Zephaniah does not have time in a short chat programme to go into the details of how the western and Indian media euologise the late mother Theresa and question what she was actually doing. It is valid to pose such questions and investigate further. Michael Parenti also went into detail behind the image of a 'saint'
@@Zeitaluq Christopher Hitchens has been evasive when asked about specific’s and to give corroborative evidence. He is a media celebrity and if you brought any kind of analytic rigour you would always find him wanting. The most. Obvious was his claim that mother Teresa liked suffering. Yet they were denied palliative medication. Even decades later. Quora magazine a Indian medical journal estimated in all of India only around 2% of the population received proper palliative care !!!
You have been active on this thread for over two years. The other rebuttals have been extensive with thorough evidences that you have consistently ignored or not answered properly elsewhere in those comments.
Dr Aroup Chatterjee has gone into through detail and it was his work that brought to the attention of Christopher Hitchens what this fake personality of 'mother' Teresa really was.
For those reading refer to Mother Teresa: The Untold Story by Dr Aroup Chatterjee and Hitchens did go into further details and specific arguments and rebuttals about the fake image made around the Albanian 'nun' mostly eulogised in western countries.
As for India's lack of palliative care that does not spare the indifference and opportunism of 'mother' Teresa and her group of convents you can thank Capitalism for that whilst the media distracts people with fake 'saintly' people.
Suffering just for the sake of suffering, that is lunacy. Suffering for the sake of doing something good for others and society - I can find meaning in that suffering. If Mother Teresa was promoting suffering for the sake of it then she was not following Jesus. She will be in Hell. If on the other hand, she was doing something good for the society (I do not see any evidence though) and as a consequence had suffering for herself and others then she was following Jesus.
Saint Teresa never promoted suffering for suffering sake. They comforted those dying. If there was better free treatment elsewhere why did their relatives not take them there? However they did not have the knowledge or skills to medically treat the poorest of the poor who could not pay for medical treatment elsewhere. It is an absurd claim by Zephaniah to claim they prevented someone going to hospital to be saved. Note no names, dates or medical persons name who has suggested he go to hospital & no explaining who was going to pay!!
"If the world hates you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you" - John15:18
But….the world loved her. She is a household name who was a great mascot for the Catholic Church. She sold an image of herself as a saint when she was only doing “good” for the Catholic Church. Criticizing her doesn’t amount to crucifixion, but the pain of some of the people she exploited for her PR “help the poor” bullshit might compare…
@@candicefrost4561 You have just proved Psalmsurfer right !!! She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
Mother Theresa has been applauded by atholics and evangelist just to attract people to accept and get converted Christianity!! There are n number of Hindhu / Jain social organisations who silently take care of the needy cancerous patients!! Their services are not even known to their next street dwellers!! Many orphanages are in operation in India solely by the support of Hindhus but these organisation main intention is to convert orphaned children!! I stopped donating any money to these NGOs on seeing their activity!! Mother Theresa do not deserve any saint hood or any ordinary hood for that matter!!
yes but if she had made a mission to help these people to raise their status no! wait a minute they are not allowed because of the caste system? The authorities in India are trying to break a caster which has been going for centuries, this has something to do with it. There are schemes helping poor people to become self sufficient by giving them especially the women a few chickens and financial to start them on their way and then they can help someone else . but this was not tried with her. she just wanted to keep them in the same situation so who was right MT or the Indian government?
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She had a mission to help the poorest of the poor.... The terminally ill ... Other catholic Charities are focused on development .... CAFOD Aid to the Church in need Mill Hill etc etc.
How exactly did this woman comfort dying children?
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
I have read large parts of Hitchens book (missionary position ) and listened to Benjamin Zephaniah on Mother Teresa ........ My first (Grad) Qualification being History taught me that supposition can be a starting point but it depends on verifiable evidence .. Benjamin basically tells people what they want to hear --- confirms prejudices but all this is with scant evidence that would not stand academic scrutiny .... 1 No evidence or paper trail to show money ending up in the Vatican 2 $35 million in a very good year came in to the sisters of Charity that have nearly 500 centres 3 Bathing in lukewarm water in a hot country is not suffering !! 4/ One person had evidence of her limited involvement others who claim to be there did not not give any evidence 5/ I have heard first-hand from a volunteer who produced hundreds of pictures of her two years with the nuns who she described as living saints .. Her only criticism was that they would not turn people away even though they were overworked 60+ hours a week + time spent saying prayers etc in the religious order chapel . 6 As for your / Hitchens claim that they could not receive visitors I have seen dozens of pictures of the mostly elderly with relatives visiting AND she told me family and friends are encouraged to come and hep with feeding etc ... It actually makes me angry that people could tell such lies to live a wealthy lifestyle criticising people who help the poor so much and do nothing himself except lead a wealthy lifestyle >>
I would love to see the rest of this video....where can i find the full version plz?
Benjamin is WONDERFUL!
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
So mother Teresa's mission was not to help fund a poor persons surgery, but sleeping along side of the bed while the person die without surgery.
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
To the loon on the show in the glasses, yeah, she went TO the poor.....only to try and convert them on the spot before they croaked. What a twisted, cruel person she could be.
Rich goverment should have built modern hospital, but they chose to do nothing
Someone please shut the mouth of that catholic adjutor! I'd like to see how she would feel if it was her being mistreated and abused while slowly dying!
lol at the end "it's very important to introduce this... MIRACLES!"
That's the point when you know the debate is about to go down the drain.
Saying it like it is without beating around the bush. Huge respect to the legend Zephaniah 💜
You mean just confirming your prejudices
Bums on seats; children being treated by medical staff, would mean less money 💰 into the church. Feeding off the poor...literally
With a title like that I was expecting a clip from a porn film.
That women didnt say they lied but continue to defend mother Theresa lol make that make sense. People like that will definitely take part in harming others if they can benefit from it
History will always repeat it self. What he is saying, has been said since the dawn of civilisation. "We" all agree with "him" wright now. Even, when we are struggling in the anguish of our lives, we are searching for the point in our life. In my case: childhood.
Stopping poor people from getting the medical help they need when they can actually get it and letting them die..yeah that's evil..like what did she tell that kid
God will open the clouds and angels will come and save you?
Well god made it so that the kid had medical help right down the street...smh..
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
What the guy at the end should have finished with is “rather than being Evangelized.”
"To help the dying"
Look love, theres only 2 ways you can help the dying:
• Either you kill them quickly and painlessly,
• or you SAVE THEIR FUCKING LIVES
Now i dont know God on a personal level, but im pretty sure... he prefers the 2nd option instead of just being there and praying over a dying person. God in heaven like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! SAVE THEM!!! I MADE YOU MY STEWART NOT TO FUCKING DICK ABOUT AND PRAY OVER DYING PEOPLE BUT TO SAVE THEM!!"
News to me. Mother Teresa had the resources to help many but gave it to the Vatican, why?
The host should have given sufficient time to really grill that Catholic woman on this issue. Her unlimited and unquestioned faith in Mother Theresa should have been questioned to the point of resolution. I can't stand the letting go of issues so swiftly which you always see on shows like this.
She is the typical brainwashed religious robot. No amount of reason or logic can change her perception.
I understand that people would simply lie down and die in the streets before she started taking them in. As a leader of a mission her job would have been to organise and lead the helpers and to raise funds to increase the effectiveness and grow the mission into other locations full of poverty. The purpose of the mission was to give people somewhere safe to die in peace away from the road traffic and back alleyways, she was not able to provide a hospital service, these are dying people. Mattresses would have been impossible to keep clean in the heat with vermin running everywhere. Along with the basic needs of thousands of dying people in many locations, money was needed to feed all those helpers, to provide transport services to collect the dying and to have their bodies disposed of and to travel to wealthy nations in order to raise money to grow the mission. Remember she was a simple person from a peasant background displaced by communism. Hitchens understands little but judges with disgusting arrogance. Who are we to judge her, the recipients of her work were grateful for her assistance because nobody else cared enough to help. People expect too much from a simple woman who acted instead of looking away and passing on by the first dying person she came across and she continued this mission until she died herself. Oh it's so easy to sit up in your ivory tower condemning others when you stand by and do nothing yourselves.
God strongly opposes contraception and abortion too. After all He is the creator, Satan is the destroyer! Abstain if you don't want children, don't kill them.
Not one coherent sentence. Your superstitions make you sound weird.
He’s right on this one.
Why is the woman beside him shaking her head when he says that Mother Teresa's Death House should be a modern hospital by now? What is it about religious fundamentalism and sadism? Its like they get off on it.
Probably because when her work of 20 years was publicised in 1969 more hospitals and aid was brought in by other organisations and the need gradually was reduced..
Probably because when her work of 20 years was publicised in 1969 more hospitals and aid was brought in by other organisations and the need gradually was reduced..
Probably because when her work of 20 years was publicised in 1969 more hospitals and aid was brought in by other organisations and the need gradually was reduced..
The poisoned dwarf!🤨
Oh no, not Louise Mensch. And Kate Smurfwaithe aswell, oh god I get a shudder when I see her.
@Herdewelle I doubt that. For one, most people fall within the middle class. Secondly, Having read about gays, native alaskans and other groups that suffer poverty and a feeling of hopelessness have high suicide rates. Debt looming over your head, not having security, feelings of failure,etc those lead to suicide.
Love the cliffhanger at the end
would have loved to see George Carlin in this debate.LoL
that woman is insufferable. she’s not listening to a word and just wants to hear herself speak.
So they just admitted to this woman having the funds to make the necessary improvements and she chose not to. How is that not evil?? She enjoyed watching pple suffer and tricked the whole world into thinking she gave a damn smh.....
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
The camp indian on the panel would make a great Bond baddie.
One little known fact about MT:
She was at heart an Albanian nationalist and expansionist. She laid a bouquet on the tomb of Enver Hoxha (a dictator who encouraged Albanian nationalism, yet persecuted MT's own church) and laid a wreath on the "Greater Albania" monument (which was a movement to incorporate territories in Yugoslavia and Greece into the Albanian homeland). I can undestand arguments about her "forgiving" Hoxha, but honouring "Greater Albania" is wholly indifensible.
Oh And Benjamin, Mother Theresa never gave money to the "Vatican" - she did setup a soup kitchen for the homeless in Rome which is based in the Vatican and still exists today
Mother Teresa was a monster and the manipulation of the media made her celebrated as a good person. The truth about her is similar to human history. Reality of horror vs rose colored heroes and saints. Shame.
As Osho says, Mother Theresa needs the poor or else she will run out of business. Do you think she doesn't want any poor people, any orphans in the world? She wants as many as possible.
That is an impressive comment .... for a ten year old
And what did she do when she was ill and dying. Private jets to top private hospitals for treatment. Hypocrite
She told people to give her money to help the poor yet she the poor people's money to the Vatican but I get it, it's not her "mission." 😂😂😂😂
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
@monaghaned helped a few dozen people. This woman was given large amounts of money none of which went to improving the lives and conditions of these people. She gave them a place to die, offered them no medical aid, and was not interested in preserving their lives, only in preserving their "souls". The money she had at her disposal could have fed the entire city of calcutta for years yet she demanded her home of the dying stayed in its continually dismal state. She's a disgusting human being.
If this black dude did half as good as mother Theresa he be a good guy
Wow Mother Teresa had a pretty good PR campaign. Why a I JUST hearing about this?
This is a classic case of arm chair critics trying to bring down a woman that really helped people in the poorest and darkest parts of the world and to top it all off; from a reformed domestic abuser! People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
Its a shame that youtube videos dont spark sensible and reasonable debate. Instead we are subjected to racists and keyboard warriors.
What is the point building hospitals? All they have to show the power of prayer being good catholics.
I find myself for the first time ever on BZs side.
You probably will not be when you consider he did not present one piece of verifiable evidence .... She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
I'm sure that dying in the comfort of a bed is much worse than dying out in the middle of the street like a rat.
NickH6789
Maybe, when I am not utilizing those 'services' as a scapegoat to run what was quite possibly the biggest religious scam in the past century.
She thought suffering was some sort or penance. She was a psychopath.
Once you actually know what the Mutha was like you never understand how almost psychopathic she was about suffering. I wish she had suffered. By the way Christopher Hitchens really shows her for what she is and his documentary about her is staggering in showing how horrible she really was. And some how she won the Nobel Peace Prize, but then so did Obama, and Trump has had his name put about too!!
Here's Hitchen's piece...
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It's a miracle that she got away with it.
That's what catholic church has been doing for a very long time
@@thedarkone9552 centuries
What's his thoughts on Lenny Henry's charity fraud
She is in a much warmer place now 😂 🇬🇧
She did not deny pain relief Even to this day the Indian government restrict the appropriate palliative care to the wealthy in the designated hospitals .. Suffering can be alleviated by prayer and devotion to God .... She did not see the poor as victims but humans with dignity. She helped give them that dignity that the World should admire and understand ..... During the time of Mother Teresa the Sisters of Charity pleaded to be allowed to administer painkilling drugs as she worked with none Christian doctors ....but were forbidden by the state .. All donated money went to help those in the 500 centres for the poor and terminally ill around the World run by the Sisters of Charity. I have heard one of her volunteers form the Calcutta Centre, in a face to face interview at my parish centre some decades ago in the Calcutta centre, describe her and her nuns as living saints -- with her observing the normal work day comprising of 14 hours ...... having the same meals as the terminally ill / poor ...... and showing the most respect and love unrivalled in the West ...
But we have to respect that mother teresa had to do good for herself too.
So we cannot expect the right doing of humanity only on mother teresa!
RIP Benjamin- legend!
Benjamin man 👌😆🙌
A great saint would help uplift others so they can both find God and comfort the suffering/sick. Mother Teresa didn’t do either.
Back when we could have opinions and open debates!
If that wasn't Mother Teresa's mission then she shouldn't have taken money she didn't need from people. She was an appalling tyrant full of doubt and false modesty who . To mask her own crisis of faith she insisted on that leap from the dying and the suffering.
The notion of Sainthood is lol on its face