Hey Dr. K. I doubt you see this, but gonna write anyways. Listening to you is so hard. Because everything you say makes me feel like what you're saying is right, but also there are hundreds of people out there selling snake oil that makes people feel good. I don't know how to tell the difference. I know you have a doctorate. I know you have institutions making sure you aren't selling nonsense. But what can you recommend to help me feel like I can just straight up trust what you say? Sorry. I am just trying to not get tricked by a charlatan (even though I don't think you are). Just doing my best to do my best.
This is FASCINATING. I recently stumbled upon Thor because my boyfriend sent me a video on motivation that he did.... And I think my reply was "Ok Pirate man. Alright. I'm listening." And I kept looking for content. And I literally just got a new job because I've started separating myself from failure and not looking at it as a characterization of who I am as a person, but rather just a set of things that happened as a result of something I tried. And it was because of the way Thor spoke about self worth. I'm so grateful.
My first exposure to the Gremlin Lord was when he spiked the donations for CDawgVA and Abroad in Japan's charity cyclathon to force them to eat prairie oysters For Charity. Every motivational clip I see is shaded with that memory.
@@camilla_films_stuffYeah, the inverse of that notion is equally important to internalise: If you're a bad person who spreads nothing but negativity, whether it's hopelessness, greed, malice or what have you, you bring your surroundings down as well.
@xxhellspawnedxx oh, for sure. and if one thing fails and you feel hopeless, it’s more likely that you feel hopeless about more areas of your life or that you will fail in them too. i think of it as a systemic problem, in a way. or like a building. if the foundation is crap, what you build probably will fall.
i think the best part is when it’s two people that are intelligent in different domains. when dr k speaks to another expert you can tell they get to the same wavelength very easily, but in cases like this we get to see thor explain these concepts from his lived experience rather than an academic one
I found these timestamps really useful as a reference, so I'm copying them from the livestream vod. Thanks @TotalTeal for the original timestamps! 59:10 - Think through your options ahead of time 1:00:03 - Predict the consequences of your actions 1:00:24 - Self-reflection and processing
1:37:20 this strikes me as a perfectly logical response to an extreme episode of emotional loss. Thor lost an animal companion of 3+ years. In the process of grief he came to the logical conclusion that his animal companion didn't just die, but had lived a life many times longer and fuller than had she never come into his life. And in his realization of this, he wanted to find a way to extend this to all the ferrets in his animal companion's situation. This is the same exact thought process that many people who start animal rescues have.
around the 33 minute mark they talk about imposter syndrome and how people will do something over the course of 3 months and have documented evidence of their improvement. a few months back, i started to learn how to draw. i was terrible off the start, my focus was and still is anime style art, as i just enjoy how its made more than realistic styles. in the first day, i had sketchbook pages full of wonky ass looking head shapes and screwed up perspectives, proportions, you name it. 3 months later, ive made art that legitimately looks good in my opinion. there was a character i drew who at the time i didnt know was from genshin impact (arlecchino for those who are curious) that i did about a month ago. i changed a few things from the image i was more or less copying from, like the eyes and background for example. i still to this day cant believe i was able to make that art, even if it was nearly me just copying. the point im trying to get across here is, i absolutely support the idea of trying something for a few months to see your improvement. i went from making really trashy art to making things that i am seriously proud of in just the span of 3 months, and ive still got a long way to go if i want to be viewed as an actual good artist by others. i have a very large confidence issue that has always prevented me from trying new things because i feel like i need to be good at them nearly instantly or im not capable. i always struggle to feel like i am able to actually do something new, because i compare myself to people who i shouldnt be comparing myself to at the time. the moment i forced myself to ignore those feelings for even as little as a few months, i was able to learn something new at an incredible pace. there are a bunch of artists who i talk to semi regularly through discord now, and a large number of them have commented on my work saying that ive been learning at a seriously fast pace. it feels really good to actually know that i can learn something new, because ive always thought that i couldnt. anyone who also struggles with this should absolutely find the time some day to force themself into learning a new thing that they want to learn. it can be anything. if you can force yourself to ignore those negative feelings that normally prevent you from learning something new, i can almost guarantee that youll be able to learn whatever that thing is. it might not be a fast process, but any sort of learning is better than nothing in this case.
Thanks for taking the time to write that up. Super interesting to read. Hope you’re still keeping up with it and advancing at your own pace, developing that skill and rewriting your limits. Awesome shit
Regarding framing failure (Thor and Dr. K are discussing this at around the 2:20:00 mark): Many old games punished "death" or failure state by making you lose experience, possibly to the point of de-leveling. This is rarer to find this in games now...partly because it's not exactly a feel good mechanic, partly because it doesn't actually make sense. While failure may feel like a regression, like losing experience; time didn't move backwards and you never lost your memory of what happened. In actuality, you gained experience. As a player, you have one super ability that stays with you regardless of what game you're playing - that is to persist after failure. To go back to a save or respawn. The player has the ability to fail over and over, gain a little more perspective each time, attempt new things, and practise once they've pieced together a solution that'll push them past that gauntlet. This ability is characterized as Determination in Undertale, is what makes the true ending of 999 possible, and is the Triforce of Courage in Zelda. As long as you are here now, you have all the knowledge you gained...and as long as you try again, there is no such thing as wasted experience.
It makes sense in a game like Valheim just for balancing purposes (keep a level that can perform without easily over leveling) and to incentivize people to not purposely off themselves in order to save time etc. But yeah in some games it makes zero sense and just wastes time
Love his ferret project, such grounded, compassionate and logical human. How he can use every situation (homelessness & betrayal) as a positive experience, and break down any challenge and difficulty to find out if it is serving or harming him to have certain train of thoughts. Great interview, thanks!
I have always really strongly related to Thor since I stumbled upon his content online. I had no idea that he has also been homeless before and that he has also been screwed and had everything taken from him. The way that he talks about how he logically navigated his way out of it feels like an extremely familiar experience. In crisis, I just become extremely adaptive and logical. When I was homeless, it just became really fine tuned. I knew I had to be independent and consider everything, all my options, all the consequences. I had to really learn how to anticipate the behavior of others and read others too. My pattern coming out of it is that I also like to help or "rescue" others; in this case for him it seems to be the ferrets which is wonderful. I'm in my 30's and I have never seen or met someone who is also navigating this kind of thing. It gives me a lot of hope.
I always love Dr. K thinking and working out problems in real time. Always helps me realize I just need to tell someone to just let me think for a second.
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This talk has been metaphorically mind blowing and it has helped me a lot to understand certain things about myself and what I should try to do because I have found there's a certain amount of chaos that comes from exactly avoiding to confront situations because I don't know how to manage, honestly, thank you so much for doing this.
Totally feel the Doc talking about his alarms going off because I also was like "Something.... ain't right here. This person is WAY TOO well adjusted. What's going on?" Very fun video.
I do the exact same thing that Thor does when he was talking about disarming emotions (around 1:05:00 ) . The first example I always think of was back when I was in high school I would watch all of my classmates get super stressed about exams and I was just like "Will being stressed help me? No. Therefore, I won't be stressed." and it worked for me. The problem that I face with that is that I say now that I am "cursed to think logically". It's not that I don't feel emotions, it's that I think through my actions too logically which prevents me from factoring in my emotions to an unhealthy degree. And I've struggled with this whole 'disconnected emotions' thing for a long time. I find it cool for me to hear that there's someone else who does something similar to what I do. But for me, this logical disarming of emotions happens whenever I am thinking over a decision, an action, of a certain significance. Anyway, point being, Thos isn't the only one like that. Others exist!
0 - 20:13 Skip (intro, ) 20:13 - 1:14:16 Identity (ego), how to improve at things, beyond will power 1:14:16 - 1:52:36 Dealing with strong emotions, Neti neti - the calling, burn out, and on the importance of being truthful 1:52:36 - 2:09:40 Skip (Neti neti as Qualia and pure experience, spirituality, ultimate flow state, technical difficulties, pattern recognition, how thor motivates his community) 2:09:40 - 2:25:40 Maybe skip (avoiding burn out part 2: location, solving problems, channeling negative emotions) 2:25:40 - 3:27:16 Failing and adapting, focusing on the task not the self, Neti neti - the truth preceeds the logic, True nature of self, being driven by ego vs by Dharma, eudæmonia 3:27:16 - 4:08:40 Hard skip (ferret talk and animal and human neurology) 4:08:40 - The script of the ego, how to get rid of the ego, choiceless awareness, setting aside time for emotions, abandoning our permanent records
This is the first long talk I've ever seen on TH-cam, because I'm someone who doesn't like to multitask and being a mother and having my own life and goals doesn't life a lot of time for this. But this time, I had the feeling that it might be work it and it definitely is. Thank you so much for this highly enjoyable video. (it also seemed like you both had a very good time) Right now, I'm at 1:30, so there's a long way to go, still there's something I want to share before I forget about it: About the bet (if your inner voice says, you can't do it, give it three months) - I really like the idea and think that this is a brilliant way to deal with it. It reminds me of the time when my son's teacher sent me to the doctor because his drawings and writing weren't like they were supposed to be. And the doctor says: sit down with him daily and draw stuff with him together, and when there's no progress after two months, you come back to me. And of course there was progress. So this helped me a lot. At the same time, as Inner Relationship Focusing.Trainer, I want to share that from IRF-Perspective, we call these critical 'you can't do it'-voices Protectors. They want to protect you from failing and they do this because there was a traumatic event in the past. At some point(s) something painful around failing (or even seeing others fail) happened and it hasn't been processed because there haven't been the suitable environment (someone who takes their time to be there for you, accept you as you are and listens if you want to talk without pushing you to it and so on) yet. And because this hasn't been the case, the pain is still there in a stuck and frozen form and there's the feeling that situations like this need to be avoided, because there's no way to process stuff like this. So making this bet and also being logical about stuff, thinking everything though and so on... are some kind of hacks. They work - very effectively - and at the same time, the frozen pain remains untouched. So what we teach in Inner Relationship Focusing is a way to be the environment and provide the space that is needed to heal. One part of it are four little steps (which can help with any emotion or state). - I feel anxious about starting this project - Something in me feels anxious about starting this project - I'm noticing something in me, that feels anxious about starting this project - I'm taking my time to be with something in me that feels anxious about starting this project And than doing this... looking for an uninterrupted space, inviting the anxious one and just listen to it (writing down what comes can also helps). It's something, that's not easy to do be oneself (so we often meet as Focusing partners to help holding the space and offer reflections) and it needs time and practice... but once you do it regularly, there is some kind of shift and then... there is no voice that tries to stop you doing this and you have additional energy (that's not needed anymore to deal with what's below the surface). I hope this was helpful and am looking forward to see the rest of the video!:) Warmly, Julia
ive been coming back to this in bits over two weeks. ive caught myself multiple times during viewing trying to like this video, even tho i already did. im currently institutionalised and this video is a great companion piece to my therapy. my therapist loves you guys. im trying to show this video to everyone, but most dont speak english that well.
I believe in the non-linear growth, potential energy buildup idea that Dr. K mentions. I went from a 23 year old high school drop out to a college graduate with a 3.92 @ 27 and running my own business by 32. I don't make much money yet but the taste of success kick started forward momentum for me in a huge way.
Thanks so much to both of you guys! I'm sent to a peaceful, introspective place that is quite lovely while I ingest this wonderful video. I'm going to have to watch a few times to fully bring out the sheer wisdom available.
3:26:25 you can practically see the "new fear unlocked" achievement pop up in Thor's micro expressions for a split second as he's realizing that's a thing that can happen.
you might be looking too far into microexpressions because there's nothing to suggest he was surprised by the fact. he was calmly nodding along with a calm tone of voice
1:00:00 i've worked a fair bit with kids, and that exactly how you get them to eat. You don't tell them you have to finish your food, you ask "do you want to start with the beans or the potatoes?". same thing with getting them to do basicaly anything. "which hand should we put a glove on first?" "do you want to start putting away the cars or the lego?".
around 1:38:30 an analogy that works for me, talking about Thor's mental process for the ferret rescue, the best analogy I can make is automotive. The emotional gratification is similar to pressing on the accelerator, the logical processing of how to make it successful is like holding the steering wheel, and the sense of calling, or correctness, is the destination. IDK if that makes sense to anyone else, but that is what clicked for me.
Love to solve things is why I got into hacking/phreaking when I was a kid in the 80's and it never went away. Programing was like a puzzle solving game, hacking was just a more exciting version. This is may be my favorite Dr K talk. Thor is so intelligent, and a force of good who lifts his/whole community and I'm 55. I ended up homeless 5 years ago and I'm trying to piece my life back together. I went through a 'hard reset' also and hearing Thor talk about it is insightful and gives me hope.
I know the not this not this thing. It's the first time I hear other people put it into words well and can point to a tradition that has a name for it. At some point one of you said something to the extent of 'It's just happening, there is no choosing, it is a choiceless way of being', I feel like it's not something happening to you, but something happens with you, as in alongside you. You and the moment coexist in harmony. Really thought provoking interview, thank you both for this
Flying halfway across USA to meet a girl for "meetings" for work means someone's in a relationship already and has a work girlfriend and there's more to this story taken to the grave.
when we talk about things being affected by observation in physics, we are talking about the fact that all of our senses require us to make physical contact with an external object in order to describe it. light bounces off things, so in order to see something you have to physically affect it with light. that's what it means. it's so often misunderstood because people don't recognise that all senses require physical interaction to function. you can't measure ANYTHING without touching it with SOMETHING, be that a type of radiation, or by observing the effects the thing has when it interacts with its surroundings. there's no mystical process where thinking about something affects it; observation requires interference. until you observe something, you don't know what it is or what it looks like. in order to observe it, you have to poke it. poking it makes it move and collapse.
@@johnlime1469 I'm not sure it's illegal unless you do something. It's definitely weird AF in American culture but speaking as someone with Asian family in India and Indonesia it's super common in that culture.
@@TallizedI'm Indian and no its not common here. It did happen in old times where there would be 6 to 8 years gap, there was also child marriage where 2 kids were married just after reaching 13-14 years of age. Old people were weird. Nowadays it's not common and people (every one who was involved including relatives and parents) are jailed if they do it.
This podcast is the best of all I have seen. It is a 4+ hours long and I have listen this like a two parts video while other podcasts that are 2 hours long I needed 4-5 days each time half an hour in order to be able to understand. You guys speak simply and it is funny that you have moments of personal imperfection. You do not try to show the perfect you in this. You just act like you are talking to a guy in a bar and I love it. Both of you have given me great points to turn around my life from a game addict to a real life businessman. Thank you a lot both of you for your contribution to our lives
Having meditation explained as a technique to widen the gap of "quiet moments" felt revelatory. My understanding before felt like a kid sent to time out in a corner, doing it bc you have to, and moving on. Like sometimes it would help, but often it felt frustrating bc you don't get the results you vaguely expect
It's like looking at my 21yo self before the love of my life gave me a restraining order. So much enlightenment, wisdom, confidence, warmth, this needs to understand everything and solve everything, a chatterbox without filter because nothing but positivity comes out of your mouth anyway.
2:26:10 Thor "Every time I failed ever,... Every time I experienced failure in the ideas that I had, it showed me there's something more to learn and then eventually it's like you don't know anything, you just know the things that you already know and you can use this to adapt to different situations and become better discerning things and better at evolving through that.... Failure is great because it gives you another chance to learn a new adaptation. "
52:20 omg... you made me realize something right there and now i am kinda ashamed of how blind i was... but i guess i can now work on getting that out of my system :O i might get to a better mindset if i stop blaming the others instead of focusing of getting better
Such a lovely conversation and in a way very different type from other interviews. As a potential future suggestion: I think it would be beneficial to have more examples and experiences with and without ego. Even simple things like physical self image, picking up a hobby you haven't touched in ages. Or positives like - How would anticipation about someone opening the present I was making for a month change? Is there no anticipation if you can detach from whether they like it or not? I've watched the video on detachment vs apathy but I didn't really understand it enough I think. Thank you and again love your work and enjoyed the Trauma guide ☺️
I found this talk really interesting, enlightening, and it also brought me joy and gratefulness. First I'd like to start saying that I grew up in contact with an indian religion called Hare Krishna, so I had already got in contact with some of the concepts that were cited in the video by Dr. K, but for various reasons I ended up growing apart of that. After that I ended up extremely unreligous, to the point that I considered myself an atheist, which was kinda funny cause I always had an uncanny feeling about the existence of spirituality or something greater than life itself in the way we perceive it. Really contradictory. But on the past couple years, I grew more spiritually active in many different ways, and i started studying about that again. And what i realized that was more important than what your religion is, is actually your conduct as a person, and that the "weghts" you should use for that are very complex and actually independent of culture. To be more precise, I started engaging in cristian values, and studying them not just with the Bible but also other books that were psychographed, which I know is very frowned upon by most Cristian religions. Anyways, I ended up getting to the conclusion that the ego is really troublesome, as they discussed it plenty during the conversation, and even though I got to that conclusion I still did not have many tools to help me avoid that, which I'm very gratefull for this videos, cause now I do. So basically I found it extremelly fascinating and beautiful to see that someone stumbled upon these concepts naturally along their life journey as Thor did, and also seeing Dr. K talking about the way that the yogis see these things and remembering much from what i grew up with and seeing that I already had the tools given to me by life from when I was born, and also giving me two very clear examples on how independently of what your cultural upbring, religion, etc. is, you can actually get to this point in which you can "connect" to something beyond yourself and material reality (even if you are completely unware of this) and that this brings about a greater good or a "calling". And I think this is so beautifull that it made me want to cry! Thanks again for posting this vídeo!
Thor got lucky with that person, and they might've been excited to have an intercultural talk. Here in France, when you ask "What do you do?", people usually reply with their job too :) We do like to be mentioned and depicted as free spirits though 😚🇫🇷
42:25 YES Absolutely ADDS AT THE END OF THE VIDEO MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE, it makes the video itself feel much higher quality & the add feels much, much more appropriate.
03:51:00 - "Man, I haven't seen an MRI for a year already, that feels NICE" "Oh, I got you. I can send you some wild MRIs, you gonna love it!" You guys sound like total junkies here. Given that it's research context, I love it so much :D
I know this is late, but that third place they talk about in the mind, i dont think it can be explained in physical terms because its an interaction between logic, emotion or as dr k put it darmah and karma. That instinct of "this is right" is when those two pieces agree
Wise Thor... We see glimpses of this during the streams, but during an interview it really shows. You are still in your twenties right? As Dr K says, your perception for these kind of things is great.
In Borderlands 2, there’s a quest where Grandma Torque tells you a story, and it would be real interesting to see the analytics of how many people were able to finish the 10 min quest where you just have to sit still.
The section about accumulating energy is extremely accurate! As a creative person, I've personally found that the more I behave authentically (not just in telling the truth instead of lying, but sharing myself rather than being closed off, pursuing my interests instead of being afraid), the more creativity I get and the more successful I become. It's like a ball of snow rolling down a hill and getting bigger. The more you spend your time exercising authenticity/creativity, the more you start to see the world from that lens, and everything you come across in life becomes a source of potential for a new idea, or an instrument you can use on your path to success.
Crisis situations is the exact same thought I had, in those moments when you don't have the time to really weigh things and consider them properly you just have to what seems to be the correct thing and deal with the consequences later, those are also the decisions in my past that I have never doubted, there were many consequences that effected my life in serious ways but I would still make the same decision every time.
Why did no one ever tell about intentional binding?! I was just thinking about the times that I was super productive. I was doing it subconsciously. Thank you!
Duolingo is actually making progress in the "translating in-game grinding to irl grinding". It would be interesting to interview someone of their team would be interesting.
Kinda awkward how Dr. K seems to have just completely forgotten about their previous interaction. Asking the same questions, still uncertain and requiring additional elaboration. You would've thought he'd remember more from someone who was entitled to his "prestige class."
Having choices to do a thing and the consequences of why and why not doing that thing should be taught in school. I did not learn that from school. I may have been a different person now if I had learned that back in middle school.
Does the third layer just work in the frequency spectrum? It has that infinite nature. It would make sense considering our eyes, our biggest sense, ears as well, require a form of frequency processing. It would make sense for the self to be… that. Not to mention how vast the pool of problem solving techniques, or algorithms, or analysis methods, employing some form of frequency domain involvement is. Its pretty much a requirement for properly understanding reality and planning/predicting interactions. The third layer is the part of your self that exists within that domain. Maybe not solely, and it doesn’t necessarily provide an intuitive understanding of wave interactions, but its the part of your thoughts that inherently operates with those mechanics, that part is automatic, and infinite. That processing just happens for that “caller” aspect to provide the base input data that the third layer finds patterns in
I loved the part where K used the word "calling" because he noticed it resonated with thor. To me that calling is represents finding purpose in your life. When people find purpose their thinking seems to change from half glass empty to half glass full. Idk the stats on when people believe they have found purpose or "their calling" but I bet it's probably a major factor in how they feel about themselves.
An hour and 37 minutes in where they are searching for the golden word it seems as though they are talking spirituality and not logic or emotion even though they try to frame the conversion in a logic vs emotion type of way. Its a way to relate to the universe
Wondering if we could explore how to manage significant changes at work. Lately my area of the business is experiencing plenty of turnover and I am wondering if I should get out of dodge too. Finally feeling confident in managing my day to day but feeling nervous after one of my superiors was let go
one comment about communication (from the 15th minute discussion) is that it's as important to _listen_ as it is to talk, and to ask about things you don't understand about what your'e hearing. Communication must be two ways, not just one side talking, but the other listening as well. without the listening, commication is just noise
Hello, 1st time i listen to one of your podcast, and i'd like to present myself, because i have something, pretty much related to health and video games. I have some sort of sickness, i don't exactly know what it is, psy's never gave me a name on it, but it has to do with stress, and anxiety. It started when i was young, with school, i wasnt able to take the amount of pressure and stress the school put on me, and i stopped going to school at something like 12/13. Then i put myself on video games like everyday, world of warcraft, 16h per day, i was in depression etc. WoW undoubtly saved my life (i wanted to end it), and teached me many things (english is one, i wouldnt know how to write this without Wow). I have sickness in car, not the usual one, it's only when we go from A to B, but never when we come back from B to A. My stress "tell me" that it would be better if things were destroyed, than being too hard to resolve (i have issue with my PC, my brain tell me "let it fall and break" so the problem is no more) It was ALWAYS like this, the issue isnt when there is a problem, but the path to resolve it. And that's only for the problem. It's something happening in the everyday life, with phonecall, with going to a rendez-vous, things like this. And why i'm posting this is because you talk about League of Legends, and Toxicity. I'm a long time player of League of Legends (since S2), and the sickness i "presented" above, ALSO happen on this game. It's like when i'm on Queue, i have this stress, "what if my mate, and what if my champ is banned, and what if i don't have my role" And in the end, i was toxic, and i was also bronze for a long time, and i was TOTALY toxic because of this, the stress from the queue was used on my team mate, not as if it was their fault, but as "i was this stressed, i waited this long, so u need to be better". And that's pretty much where the trap is. IT'S NOT WRONG to think like this, because your brain give u everything to make it right, but the truth is also that it's NOT RIGHT. And you talk about this as the society in which we live in, as, "people recognize how difficult it is", and that's what's wrong, for much people it's difficult, and that's why they're toxic, because they see that for other, it's not as difficult as for them. And that's where this becomes dangerous, if you're never wrong, then you don't have a reason to stop, even if you lose, because it "would be right" for you to win. Thanks god, i got tired of my own toxicity on the game, and stopped it, to come back some years after, and just playing the game as he is, i enjoyed it, no care about the rank, just wanted to carry people, and win, and have fun, and generaly, that's how u become better. Now let's talk about this problem in World of Warcraft : In World of warcraft, you can do mythic dungeon (5 people) or raids (20 ppl huge strat). Most of the people in Mythic dungeon will wait for the BEST OF THE BEST players to be in their group, for the same reason as the one in league, because failing is worst than it would be great to succeed. That's pretty much the base of gatekeeping, in every game, for me. Let's be back to my sickness, talking about raids. Raids arent hard, they have strategies, if you fail, you can make everyone fail, so sometime, this stress of mine, make me be prepared as if i was the world best player, with the most difficult thing to do in the game, while ITS NOT, but when i'm inside the raid, everything is good, no stress anymore. But sometime the stress "pre-raid" is so much, that I CANT GO, because as i write above, if it's broken, it's finished, and there is nothing to worry about anymore. It's not that I CANT GO, it's that the pressure is so much, that i must assure myself that I WONT GO, to purge this stress. That's all for me. I just hope that no one get the same sickness as me, because it fucks my life, everyday, a little more, and sometimes i cant even enjoy games because of it
Also Thor clearly is not ADHD. He doesn't have time blindness that makes you think this short term moments are all moments. "I suck now so I have always sucked because all moments are this moment"
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Hey Dr. K. I doubt you see this, but gonna write anyways.
Listening to you is so hard. Because everything you say makes me feel like what you're saying is right, but also there are hundreds of people out there selling snake oil that makes people feel good. I don't know how to tell the difference.
I know you have a doctorate. I know you have institutions making sure you aren't selling nonsense. But what can you recommend to help me feel like I can just straight up trust what you say?
Sorry. I am just trying to not get tricked by a charlatan (even though I don't think you are). Just doing my best to do my best.
@@connorskudlarek8598 what are you afraid will happen if dr. k. is not to be trusted? what does that look like to you?
This is FASCINATING. I recently stumbled upon Thor because my boyfriend sent me a video on motivation that he did.... And I think my reply was "Ok Pirate man. Alright. I'm listening." And I kept looking for content. And I literally just got a new job because I've started separating myself from failure and not looking at it as a characterization of who I am as a person, but rather just a set of things that happened as a result of something I tried. And it was because of the way Thor spoke about self worth.
I'm so grateful.
Thor is amazing tho the "Ok Pirate man" got me LOL
My first exposure to the Gremlin Lord was when he spiked the donations for CDawgVA and Abroad in Japan's charity cyclathon to force them to eat prairie oysters For Charity. Every motivational clip I see is shaded with that memory.
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I'm really curious to find the video of motivation Thor said, could you post it here please?
Could you tell me what video is that please?
Also curious what the motivation video was 😅
"Rising Tide raises all ships" That is the most wholesome and hopeful thing I heard in a long time. Wow.
works both ways, though 😆
@@camilla_films_stuffYeah, the inverse of that notion is equally important to internalise: If you're a bad person who spreads nothing but negativity, whether it's hopelessness, greed, malice or what have you, you bring your surroundings down as well.
@xxhellspawnedxx oh, for sure. and if one thing fails and you feel hopeless, it’s more likely that you feel hopeless about more areas of your life or that you will fail in them too.
i think of it as a systemic problem, in a way. or like a building. if the foundation is crap, what you build probably will fall.
Ah yes the double G.O.A.T Interview
Yes!!!
Best possible interview ❤😊
This feels like watching two of your best friends become best friends.
@@peacemaker949 facts
There's an incredible chemistry between the two of you and it's an extreme pleasure listening to your conversations. Thank you for your all your work.
Can we please just get a montage of Dr K asking if he can think, followed by long pauses?
Yeah sure but I need to figure out how to edit that, can I think for a second?
@@CaptnKrowit's been a day, are you done thinking yet?
@@prafulltiwari8929 bruh, calling me out like that xD
10 hours of Dr. K thinking to sleep to
We are waiting @@CaptnKrow
2 very intelligent people talking is interesting and entertaining, who would've known
i think the best part is when it’s two people that are intelligent in different domains. when dr k speaks to another expert you can tell they get to the same wavelength very easily, but in cases like this we get to see thor explain these concepts from his lived experience rather than an academic one
*experienced
@@fabianwolf6849 Its not like intelligence is hard defined so experience can part of what makes you more intelligence
I found these timestamps really useful as a reference, so I'm copying them from the livestream vod. Thanks @TotalTeal for the original timestamps!
59:10 - Think through your options ahead of time
1:00:03 - Predict the consequences of your actions
1:00:24 - Self-reflection and processing
I watched every bit of what was previously uploaded, and I intend to re-watch it again now. Best stream ever. I want MOAR of Dr. ThorK
The amount of insight, knowledge, and wisdom, for the lack of a better word, even just in the 1st half is absolutely insane.
Dr. Thork. Love it.
1:37:20 this strikes me as a perfectly logical response to an extreme episode of emotional loss. Thor lost an animal companion of 3+ years. In the process of grief he came to the logical conclusion that his animal companion didn't just die, but had lived a life many times longer and fuller than had she never come into his life. And in his realization of this, he wanted to find a way to extend this to all the ferrets in his animal companion's situation. This is the same exact thought process that many people who start animal rescues have.
One of the most wholesome match ups on the internet. I love these guys.
around the 33 minute mark they talk about imposter syndrome and how people will do something over the course of 3 months and have documented evidence of their improvement. a few months back, i started to learn how to draw. i was terrible off the start, my focus was and still is anime style art, as i just enjoy how its made more than realistic styles. in the first day, i had sketchbook pages full of wonky ass looking head shapes and screwed up perspectives, proportions, you name it. 3 months later, ive made art that legitimately looks good in my opinion. there was a character i drew who at the time i didnt know was from genshin impact (arlecchino for those who are curious) that i did about a month ago. i changed a few things from the image i was more or less copying from, like the eyes and background for example. i still to this day cant believe i was able to make that art, even if it was nearly me just copying.
the point im trying to get across here is, i absolutely support the idea of trying something for a few months to see your improvement. i went from making really trashy art to making things that i am seriously proud of in just the span of 3 months, and ive still got a long way to go if i want to be viewed as an actual good artist by others. i have a very large confidence issue that has always prevented me from trying new things because i feel like i need to be good at them nearly instantly or im not capable. i always struggle to feel like i am able to actually do something new, because i compare myself to people who i shouldnt be comparing myself to at the time. the moment i forced myself to ignore those feelings for even as little as a few months, i was able to learn something new at an incredible pace. there are a bunch of artists who i talk to semi regularly through discord now, and a large number of them have commented on my work saying that ive been learning at a seriously fast pace. it feels really good to actually know that i can learn something new, because ive always thought that i couldnt. anyone who also struggles with this should absolutely find the time some day to force themself into learning a new thing that they want to learn. it can be anything. if you can force yourself to ignore those negative feelings that normally prevent you from learning something new, i can almost guarantee that youll be able to learn whatever that thing is. it might not be a fast process, but any sort of learning is better than nothing in this case.
Thanks for taking the time to write that up. Super interesting to read. Hope you’re still keeping up with it and advancing at your own pace, developing that skill and rewriting your limits. Awesome shit
more interviews like this please! 🙏
BRO YOU HAVENT EVEN FUCKING SEEN THE ENTIRE THING
@@christian-hx3nglmao these were already posted as live streams, he just put the two together
Stop screaming. The interviews were livestreamed a few days ago
These long form interviews are so good, man. Killer insights that are tough to get from short clips. Cheers
Regarding framing failure (Thor and Dr. K are discussing this at around the 2:20:00 mark):
Many old games punished "death" or failure state by making you lose experience, possibly to the point of de-leveling. This is rarer to find this in games now...partly because it's not exactly a feel good mechanic, partly because it doesn't actually make sense.
While failure may feel like a regression, like losing experience; time didn't move backwards and you never lost your memory of what happened. In actuality, you gained experience.
As a player, you have one super ability that stays with you regardless of what game you're playing - that is to persist after failure. To go back to a save or respawn. The player has the ability to fail over and over, gain a little more perspective each time, attempt new things, and practise once they've pieced together a solution that'll push them past that gauntlet. This ability is characterized as Determination in Undertale, is what makes the true ending of 999 possible, and is the Triforce of Courage in Zelda.
As long as you are here now, you have all the knowledge you gained...and as long as you try again, there is no such thing as wasted experience.
This is why Morrowind encapsulated the meta narrative perfectly
Yes!!!
Outer wilds.
@@thelastgekkoand dark souls in the same way
It makes sense in a game like Valheim just for balancing purposes (keep a level that can perform without easily over leveling) and to incentivize people to not purposely off themselves in order to save time etc. But yeah in some games it makes zero sense and just wastes time
Love his ferret project, such grounded, compassionate and logical human. How he can use every situation (homelessness & betrayal) as a positive experience, and break down any challenge and difficulty to find out if it is serving or harming him to have certain train of thoughts. Great interview, thanks!
I have always really strongly related to Thor since I stumbled upon his content online. I had no idea that he has also been homeless before and that he has also been screwed and had everything taken from him. The way that he talks about how he logically navigated his way out of it feels like an extremely familiar experience. In crisis, I just become extremely adaptive and logical. When I was homeless, it just became really fine tuned. I knew I had to be independent and consider everything, all my options, all the consequences. I had to really learn how to anticipate the behavior of others and read others too. My pattern coming out of it is that I also like to help or "rescue" others; in this case for him it seems to be the ferrets which is wonderful. I'm in my 30's and I have never seen or met someone who is also navigating this kind of thing. It gives me a lot of hope.
I always love Dr. K thinking and working out problems in real time. Always helps me realize I just need to tell someone to just let me think for a second.
This talk has been metaphorically mind blowing and it has helped me a lot to understand certain things about myself and what I should try to do because I have found there's a certain amount of chaos that comes from exactly avoiding to confront situations because I don't know how to manage, honestly, thank you so much for doing this.
Totally feel the Doc talking about his alarms going off because I also was like "Something.... ain't right here. This person is WAY TOO well adjusted. What's going on?" Very fun video.
Those conversations between you two feel like pure gold to me. Thank you so much
I do the exact same thing that Thor does when he was talking about disarming emotions (around 1:05:00 ) . The first example I always think of was back when I was in high school I would watch all of my classmates get super stressed about exams and I was just like "Will being stressed help me? No. Therefore, I won't be stressed." and it worked for me.
The problem that I face with that is that I say now that I am "cursed to think logically". It's not that I don't feel emotions, it's that I think through my actions too logically which prevents me from factoring in my emotions to an unhealthy degree. And I've struggled with this whole 'disconnected emotions' thing for a long time.
I find it cool for me to hear that there's someone else who does something similar to what I do. But for me, this logical disarming of emotions happens whenever I am thinking over a decision, an action, of a certain significance.
Anyway, point being, Thos isn't the only one like that. Others exist!
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Skip (intro, )
20:13 - 1:14:16
Identity (ego), how to improve at things, beyond will power
1:14:16 - 1:52:36
Dealing with strong emotions, Neti neti - the calling, burn out, and on the importance of being truthful
1:52:36 - 2:09:40
Skip (Neti neti as Qualia and pure experience, spirituality, ultimate flow state, technical difficulties, pattern recognition, how thor motivates his community)
2:09:40 - 2:25:40
Maybe skip (avoiding burn out part 2: location, solving problems, channeling negative emotions)
2:25:40 - 3:27:16
Failing and adapting, focusing on the task not the self, Neti neti - the truth preceeds the logic, True nature of self, being driven by ego vs by Dharma, eudæmonia
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Hard skip (ferret talk and animal and human neurology)
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The script of the ego, how to get rid of the ego, choiceless awareness, setting aside time for emotions, abandoning our permanent records
Was viewing the VODs and I was about to watch the next part and saw this video come out. Nice
"Considering your options" is surprisingly powerful. It definitely played a part in my early emotional growth.
I found myself stuck in choice paralysis every time. A good remedy is to use a random number generator
@@CjqNslXUcM one step further than autopilot, though! good tip on the random number generator, trying that tomorrow.
This is the first long talk I've ever seen on TH-cam, because I'm someone who doesn't like to multitask and being a mother and having my own life and goals doesn't life a lot of time for this. But this time, I had the feeling that it might be work it and it definitely is. Thank you so much for this highly enjoyable video. (it also seemed like you both had a very good time)
Right now, I'm at 1:30, so there's a long way to go, still there's something I want to share before I forget about it:
About the bet (if your inner voice says, you can't do it, give it three months) - I really like the idea and think that this is a brilliant way to deal with it. It reminds me of the time when my son's teacher sent me to the doctor because his drawings and writing weren't like they were supposed to be. And the doctor says: sit down with him daily and draw stuff with him together, and when there's no progress after two months, you come back to me. And of course there was progress. So this helped me a lot.
At the same time, as Inner Relationship Focusing.Trainer, I want to share that from IRF-Perspective, we call these critical 'you can't do it'-voices Protectors. They want to protect you from failing and they do this because there was a traumatic event in the past. At some point(s) something painful around failing (or even seeing others fail) happened and it hasn't been processed because there haven't been the suitable environment (someone who takes their time to be there for you, accept you as you are and listens if you want to talk without pushing you to it and so on) yet.
And because this hasn't been the case, the pain is still there in a stuck and frozen form and there's the feeling that situations like this need to be avoided, because there's no way to process stuff like this.
So making this bet and also being logical about stuff, thinking everything though and so on... are some kind of hacks. They work - very effectively - and at the same time, the frozen pain remains untouched.
So what we teach in Inner Relationship Focusing is a way to be the environment and provide the space that is needed to heal. One part of it are four little steps (which can help with any emotion or state).
- I feel anxious about starting this project
- Something in me feels anxious about starting this project
- I'm noticing something in me, that feels anxious about starting this project
- I'm taking my time to be with something in me that feels anxious about starting this project
And than doing this... looking for an uninterrupted space, inviting the anxious one and just listen to it (writing down what comes can also helps). It's something, that's not easy to do be oneself (so we often meet as Focusing partners to help holding the space and offer reflections) and it needs time and practice... but once you do it regularly, there is some kind of shift and then... there is no voice that tries to stop you doing this and you have additional energy (that's not needed anymore to deal with what's below the surface).
I hope this was helpful and am looking forward to see the rest of the video!:)
Warmly,
Julia
5 hours of content with 2 legends? THANK YOU
Absolutely loving the hour-long ferret side track that you can tell was definitely not planned
ive been coming back to this in bits over two weeks. ive caught myself multiple times during viewing trying to like this video, even tho i already did.
im currently institutionalised and this video is a great companion piece to my therapy. my therapist loves you guys.
im trying to show this video to everyone, but most dont speak english that well.
I thoroughly enjoyed this! I am going through some things, and this helped make me smile. Thank you both, and I hope you have continued success.
I believe in the non-linear growth, potential energy buildup idea that Dr. K mentions. I went from a 23 year old high school drop out to a college graduate with a 3.92 @ 27 and running my own business by 32. I don't make much money yet but the taste of success kick started forward momentum for me in a huge way.
This has been so amazing, I hope we have more on both of them
Thanks so much to both of you guys! I'm sent to a peaceful, introspective place that is quite lovely while I ingest this wonderful video. I'm going to have to watch a few times to fully bring out the sheer wisdom available.
Absolutely fantastic! Did not expect my two favorite youtubers from very different backgrounds to have a long form talk. More of this!
3:26:25 you can practically see the "new fear unlocked" achievement pop up in Thor's micro expressions for a split second as he's realizing that's a thing that can happen.
you might be looking too far into microexpressions because there's nothing to suggest he was surprised by the fact. he was calmly nodding along with a calm tone of voice
what a wonderful thing to listen to in the background. At times i had to look over and tune in, love these guys
1:00:00 i've worked a fair bit with kids, and that exactly how you get them to eat. You don't tell them you have to finish your food, you ask "do you want to start with the beans or the potatoes?". same thing with getting them to do basicaly anything. "which hand should we put a glove on first?" "do you want to start putting away the cars or the lego?".
The collaboration I didn’t even realize I needed hahaha. 10/10
around 1:38:30 an analogy that works for me, talking about Thor's mental process for the ferret rescue, the best analogy I can make is automotive. The emotional gratification is similar to pressing on the accelerator, the logical processing of how to make it successful is like holding the steering wheel, and the sense of calling, or correctness, is the destination. IDK if that makes sense to anyone else, but that is what clicked for me.
Love to solve things is why I got into hacking/phreaking when I was a kid in the 80's and it never went away. Programing was like a puzzle solving game, hacking was just a more exciting version.
This is may be my favorite Dr K talk. Thor is so intelligent, and a force of good who lifts his/whole community and I'm 55. I ended up homeless 5 years ago and I'm trying to piece my life back together. I went through a 'hard reset' also and hearing Thor talk about it is insightful and gives me hope.
I know the not this not this thing. It's the first time I hear other people put it into words well and can point to a tradition that has a name for it. At some point one of you said something to the extent of 'It's just happening, there is no choosing, it is a choiceless way of being', I feel like it's not something happening to you, but something happens with you, as in alongside you. You and the moment coexist in harmony.
Really thought provoking interview, thank you both for this
What an awesome interview! I love reading back on all the papers mentioned in here. Big knowledge from these two
Flying halfway across USA to meet a girl for "meetings" for work means someone's in a relationship already and has a work girlfriend and there's more to this story taken to the grave.
Do you know the rough timestamp to that part is?
Just watch it bro @@carlover4239
@@carlover4239 18:10
@@carlover4239 18:02
@@carlover4239it was at the start
This came to me right when I needed to hear it. Thank you both.
Hell yeah! Awesome collab, I also really liked the ludwig interview recently on the Twitch channel, each of these chats holds some valuable lessons
It's great this conversation has been listened to already by 163k people. Great thoughts to be spread. ^^ And much great people thay pay attention.
when we talk about things being affected by observation in physics, we are talking about the fact that all of our senses require us to make physical contact with an external object in order to describe it. light bounces off things, so in order to see something you have to physically affect it with light. that's what it means. it's so often misunderstood because people don't recognise that all senses require physical interaction to function. you can't measure ANYTHING without touching it with SOMETHING, be that a type of radiation, or by observing the effects the thing has when it interacts with its surroundings.
there's no mystical process where thinking about something affects it; observation requires interference. until you observe something, you don't know what it is or what it looks like. in order to observe it, you have to poke it. poking it makes it move and collapse.
It is so fascinating to listen to each of them 😌
That 21 yo and 16 yo story was absolutely nuts.
My mom and dad are 6 years apart in age. Is it really that weird?
@@chrissavage1449 It's the start that's weird. I mean, 21 and 16 is just straight up illegal.
@@johnlime1469 I'm not sure it's illegal unless you do something. It's definitely weird AF in American culture but speaking as someone with Asian family in India and Indonesia it's super common in that culture.
@@TallizedI'm Indian and no its not common here.
It did happen in old times where there would be 6 to 8 years gap, there was also child marriage where 2 kids were married just after reaching 13-14 years of age.
Old people were weird.
Nowadays it's not common and people (every one who was involved including relatives and parents) are jailed if they do it.
@@prafulltiwari8929 India is large
This podcast is the best of all I have seen. It is a 4+ hours long and I have listen this like a two parts video while other podcasts that are 2 hours long I needed 4-5 days each time half an hour in order to be able to understand.
You guys speak simply and it is funny that you have moments of personal imperfection. You do not try to show the perfect you in this. You just act like you are talking to a guy in a bar and I love it.
Both of you have given me great points to turn around my life from a game addict to a real life businessman. Thank you a lot both of you for your contribution to our lives
Having meditation explained as a technique to widen the gap of "quiet moments" felt revelatory.
My understanding before felt like a kid sent to time out in a corner, doing it bc you have to, and moving on. Like sometimes it would help, but often it felt frustrating bc you don't get the results you vaguely expect
keep interviewing thor until i know how to work 16 hours a day.
It's like looking at my 21yo self before the love of my life gave me a restraining order. So much enlightenment, wisdom, confidence, warmth, this needs to understand everything and solve everything, a chatterbox without filter because nothing but positivity comes out of your mouth anyway.
2:26:10 Thor "Every time I failed ever,... Every time I experienced failure in the ideas that I had, it showed me there's something more to learn and then eventually it's like you don't know anything, you just know the things that you already know and you can use this to adapt to different situations and become better discerning things and better at evolving through that.... Failure is great because it gives you another chance to learn a new adaptation. "
I watch every fucking minute of this in 2 sittings and it was so worth it and so so beautiful
52:20 omg... you made me realize something right there and now i am kinda ashamed of how blind i was... but i guess i can now work on getting that out of my system :O i might get to a better mindset if i stop blaming the others instead of focusing of getting better
This has been one of the best streams/podcasts ive listened to in a while. Thanks for the stream
Such a lovely conversation and in a way very different type from other interviews. As a potential future suggestion: I think it would be beneficial to have more examples and experiences with and without ego. Even simple things like physical self image, picking up a hobby you haven't touched in ages. Or positives like - How would anticipation about someone opening the present I was making for a month change? Is there no anticipation if you can detach from whether they like it or not? I've watched the video on detachment vs apathy but I didn't really understand it enough I think. Thank you and again love your work and enjoyed the Trauma guide ☺️
I loved all the conversation ! Tanks
I found this talk really interesting, enlightening, and it also brought me joy and gratefulness.
First I'd like to start saying that I grew up in contact with an indian religion called Hare Krishna, so I had already got in contact with some of the concepts that were cited in the video by Dr. K, but for various reasons I ended up growing apart of that.
After that I ended up extremely unreligous, to the point that I considered myself an atheist, which was kinda funny cause I always had an uncanny feeling about the existence of spirituality or something greater than life itself in the way we perceive it. Really contradictory.
But on the past couple years, I grew more spiritually active in many different ways, and i started studying about that again. And what i realized that was more important than what your religion is, is actually your conduct as a person, and that the "weghts" you should use for that are very complex and actually independent of culture. To be more precise, I started engaging in cristian values, and studying them not just with the Bible but also other books that were psychographed, which I know is very frowned upon by most Cristian religions.
Anyways, I ended up getting to the conclusion that the ego is really troublesome, as they discussed it plenty during the conversation, and even though I got to that conclusion I still did not have many tools to help me avoid that, which I'm very gratefull for this videos, cause now I do.
So basically I found it extremelly fascinating and beautiful to see that someone stumbled upon these concepts naturally along their life journey as Thor did, and also seeing Dr. K talking about the way that the yogis see these things and remembering much from what i grew up with and seeing that I already had the tools given to me by life from when I was born, and also giving me two very clear examples on how independently of what your cultural upbring, religion, etc. is, you can actually get to this point in which you can "connect" to something beyond yourself and material reality (even if you are completely unware of this) and that this brings about a greater good or a "calling".
And I think this is so beautifull that it made me want to cry!
Thanks again for posting this vídeo!
This was so good. Listening to the two of you talk was amazing.
Thor got lucky with that person, and they might've been excited to have an intercultural talk. Here in France, when you ask "What do you do?", people usually reply with their job too :)
We do like to be mentioned and depicted as free spirits though 😚🇫🇷
42:25
YES Absolutely ADDS AT THE END OF THE VIDEO MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE, it makes the video itself feel much higher quality & the add feels much, much more appropriate.
i watched so far 4 hours and 28 minutes of an awesome and insightful conversation. Thanks to Dr.K, HealthyGamerGG team, and Pirate software!
Literally the best thing I have ever seen.
I recommend this Dr k interview the most
Liked and commented! Thanks for patching it together.
03:51:00 - "Man, I haven't seen an MRI for a year already, that feels NICE"
"Oh, I got you. I can send you some wild MRIs, you gonna love it!"
You guys sound like total junkies here. Given that it's research context, I love it so much :D
I know this is late, but that third place they talk about in the mind, i dont think it can be explained in physical terms because its an interaction between logic, emotion or as dr k put it darmah and karma.
That instinct of "this is right" is when those two pieces agree
Wise Thor... We see glimpses of this during the streams, but during an interview it really shows. You are still in your twenties right? As Dr K says, your perception for these kind of things is great.
Finally caught a video less than 16 hours after it came out
Did you subscribe?
@@Dave_of_Mordor ive been subscribed for a few years but I never seem to get notifications sadly
what happens if you catch one after 16 hours has passed?
@@Michuj-x1d the world will explode
@@Chairoum understandable
In Borderlands 2, there’s a quest where Grandma Torque tells you a story, and it would be real interesting to see the analytics of how many people were able to finish the 10 min quest where you just have to sit still.
That's the best episode ever.
You guys need to start a podcast now!!!!
"racial bonus"
starting the stream with a banger
❤
The section about accumulating energy is extremely accurate! As a creative person, I've personally found that the more I behave authentically (not just in telling the truth instead of lying, but sharing myself rather than being closed off, pursuing my interests instead of being afraid), the more creativity I get and the more successful I become. It's like a ball of snow rolling down a hill and getting bigger. The more you spend your time exercising authenticity/creativity, the more you start to see the world from that lens, and everything you come across in life becomes a source of potential for a new idea, or an instrument you can use on your path to success.
Crisis situations is the exact same thought I had, in those moments when you don't have the time to really weigh things and consider them properly you just have to what seems to be the correct thing and deal with the consequences later, those are also the decisions in my past that I have never doubted, there were many consequences that effected my life in serious ways but I would still make the same decision every time.
Why did no one ever tell about intentional binding?!
I was just thinking about the times that I was super productive. I was doing it subconsciously. Thank you!
That part towards the end when Thor is infodumping about ferrets got me all... -insert lego movie startstruck gif-
Duolingo is actually making progress in the "translating in-game grinding to irl grinding". It would be interesting to interview someone of their team would be interesting.
Its really me who is weighing me down... God one of the best sessions
This was amazing ❤
i thought this was a new stream or something that i missed, it's a stitched video of all 3 stream footage. NOISE arigato...
Kinda awkward how Dr. K seems to have just completely forgotten about their previous interaction. Asking the same questions, still uncertain and requiring additional elaboration. You would've thought he'd remember more from someone who was entitled to his "prestige class."
Having choices to do a thing and the consequences of why and why not doing that thing should be taught in school. I did not learn that from school. I may have been a different person now if I had learned that back in middle school.
ferret was a never ending painful detour ... but hey anything from Dr k is gold... Awesome episode
Oh man. The "Do you do things because they NEED to be done?" segment... I would love to hang out with you guys.
Does the third layer just work in the frequency spectrum? It has that infinite nature. It would make sense considering our eyes, our biggest sense, ears as well, require a form of frequency processing. It would make sense for the self to be… that.
Not to mention how vast the pool of problem solving techniques, or algorithms, or analysis methods, employing some form of frequency domain involvement is. Its pretty much a requirement for properly understanding reality and planning/predicting interactions.
The third layer is the part of your self that exists within that domain. Maybe not solely, and it doesn’t necessarily provide an intuitive understanding of wave interactions, but its the part of your thoughts that inherently operates with those mechanics, that part is automatic, and infinite. That processing just happens for that “caller” aspect to provide the base input data that the third layer finds patterns in
I loved the part where K used the word "calling" because he noticed it resonated with thor. To me that calling is represents finding purpose in your life. When people find purpose their thinking seems to change from half glass empty to half glass full. Idk the stats on when people believe they have found purpose or "their calling" but I bet it's probably a major factor in how they feel about themselves.
An hour and 37 minutes in where they are searching for the golden word it seems as though they are talking spirituality and not logic or emotion even though they try to frame the conversion in a logic vs emotion type of way. Its a way to relate to the universe
I wish I loved things the same way Thor loves things.
I like seeing dr k fixate on trying to get a point out
Allowing Silence on the podcast...
Wondering if we could explore how to manage significant changes at work.
Lately my area of the business is experiencing plenty of turnover and I am wondering if I should get out of dodge too. Finally feeling confident in managing my day to day but feeling nervous after one of my superiors was let go
Thor pays his mods.
That is nuts.
32:02 primeagen mentioned!!
one comment about communication (from the 15th minute discussion) is that it's as important to _listen_ as it is to talk, and to ask about things you don't understand about what your'e hearing.
Communication must be two ways, not just one side talking, but the other listening as well.
without the listening, commication is just noise
Hello, 1st time i listen to one of your podcast, and i'd like to present myself, because i have something, pretty much related to health and video games.
I have some sort of sickness, i don't exactly know what it is, psy's never gave me a name on it, but it has to do with stress, and anxiety.
It started when i was young, with school, i wasnt able to take the amount of pressure and stress the school put on me, and i stopped going to school at something like 12/13.
Then i put myself on video games like everyday, world of warcraft, 16h per day, i was in depression etc.
WoW undoubtly saved my life (i wanted to end it), and teached me many things (english is one, i wouldnt know how to write this without Wow).
I have sickness in car, not the usual one, it's only when we go from A to B, but never when we come back from B to A.
My stress "tell me" that it would be better if things were destroyed, than being too hard to resolve (i have issue with my PC, my brain tell me "let it fall and break" so the problem is no more)
It was ALWAYS like this, the issue isnt when there is a problem, but the path to resolve it.
And that's only for the problem.
It's something happening in the everyday life, with phonecall, with going to a rendez-vous, things like this.
And why i'm posting this is because you talk about League of Legends, and Toxicity.
I'm a long time player of League of Legends (since S2), and the sickness i "presented" above, ALSO happen on this game.
It's like when i'm on Queue, i have this stress, "what if my mate, and what if my champ is banned, and what if i don't have my role"
And in the end, i was toxic, and i was also bronze for a long time, and i was TOTALY toxic because of this, the stress from the queue was used on my team mate, not as if it was their fault, but as "i was this stressed, i waited this long, so u need to be better".
And that's pretty much where the trap is.
IT'S NOT WRONG to think like this, because your brain give u everything to make it right, but the truth is also that it's NOT RIGHT.
And you talk about this as the society in which we live in, as, "people recognize how difficult it is", and that's what's wrong, for much people it's difficult, and that's why they're toxic, because they see that for other, it's not as difficult as for them.
And that's where this becomes dangerous, if you're never wrong, then you don't have a reason to stop, even if you lose, because it "would be right" for you to win.
Thanks god, i got tired of my own toxicity on the game, and stopped it, to come back some years after, and just playing the game as he is, i enjoyed it, no care about the rank, just wanted to carry people, and win, and have fun, and generaly, that's how u become better.
Now let's talk about this problem in World of Warcraft :
In World of warcraft, you can do mythic dungeon (5 people) or raids (20 ppl huge strat).
Most of the people in Mythic dungeon will wait for the BEST OF THE BEST players to be in their group, for the same reason as the one in league, because failing is worst than it would be great to succeed.
That's pretty much the base of gatekeeping, in every game, for me.
Let's be back to my sickness, talking about raids.
Raids arent hard, they have strategies, if you fail, you can make everyone fail, so sometime, this stress of mine, make me be prepared as if i was the world best player, with the most difficult thing to do in the game, while ITS NOT, but when i'm inside the raid, everything is good, no stress anymore.
But sometime the stress "pre-raid" is so much, that I CANT GO, because as i write above, if it's broken, it's finished, and there is nothing to worry about anymore.
It's not that I CANT GO, it's that the pressure is so much, that i must assure myself that I WONT GO, to purge this stress.
That's all for me.
I just hope that no one get the same sickness as me, because it fucks my life, everyday, a little more, and sometimes i cant even enjoy games because of it
Thor is what Int 16, Wis 18, and Cha 16 look like.
Also Thor clearly is not ADHD. He doesn't have time blindness that makes you think this short term moments are all moments. "I suck now so I have always sucked because all moments are this moment"