Got my 6060 yesterday and finished putting it all together today. Boy was it a long build. Now just have to get the board. I ordered it through your link.
Thats appreciated, thank you. Yes, it is a bit long as you essentially have to strip the old machine down and practically build a new machine but worth it in the end 😁
Strewth James, with so many CNC's you won't have room to swing a 3.175mm bit!! If you feel like selling one to make space ... before you take over the spare bedroom!! Good to see the build hot off the press before general release.
Thats it for now!!! 🤣 I had to make a decision last year as to whether I went for one big machine like a Workbee or a couple of smaller ones. Due to my work space and not wanting to move away from "desktop" CNC's for my TH-cam channel I decided for two smaller one. But I've well and truly ran out of space now 😕
Guess bye bye 3018 & Not selling the Alien then ?? Is there much left of the 4030 original ? Surely you've changed all the rails & spindles. The corners, X axis upstands, nuts, bolts & wiring must be the only original kit?
Hi James, something I have noticed about all the 4030 machines. The X axis cable chain is not correct even in the manual and building instructions. The cable chain should roll out along its length like the Y axis cable chain does but in effect it drags the lower part along the X axis, eventually scratching and chaffing through. If you were to invert the chain and fasten the lower motor bracket to the start point on the X axis and put the tall bracket on the motor, the chain would then unroll as it should not causing any chaffing on the top of the X axis like it does at present, I don't have a 4030, yet, but you may need to make new fixing brackets to make it work correctly as I don't know for sure if the brackets are interchangeable without some modification.
Thanks. Not at my machine at the moment but if I remember correctly the opposite end of the thread is held in with a spring clip (or should be anyway) so that side doesn't actually come off and is why you put it on at the side with the stem.
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thanks James, you are correct as I later discovered. I realized that I had put the Z axis assembly on the X axis gantry inverted...how? not sure. But I'm prone to finding new ways to set myself back. Might be a good talking point for future produtions.. LOL Cheers!
Hi James. It's very interresting to learn from all the good tips, your are showing. I would be very interresting in seeing you setting up a 4th axis, or even better seeing a cnc lath with grbl.
This is great, do you have the overall new dimensions with this extension kit? I built a table for my 4030 and I need to figure out where I'm going to put it.
@ thank you very much. Does this include space as well for the motors? I just wanna make sure I’ve got room all the way around this thing for a new table.
🤣 me too. The full workshop is 14x8 but a quarter is used for storage of garden things like chairs, BBQ stuff etc. Hopefully getting rid of all that and getting the rest of the rest of the space back for the workshop
Double (or triple) Deck your CNC's on drawer runners, put a sound deadening wall rather than individual housings. A guy I know in Switzerland mounted his vertically on pull down slides vertical to horizontal. (Lookup " I simply built it") th-cam.com/video/2Pa1Eq72t4Y/w-d-xo.html
Hi Mike, I dont really have one. I've seen some people do it but essentially your C beams come closer together, so you end up needing something to pack out the carriages a little to allow the X axis gantry to connect. Probably also longer bolts as well to connect the gantry
I have been watching your excellent video on installing the 6060 extension kit. In the video and in the SainSmart installation Guide, the Spindle assembly slides onto the X-axis easily. When I try fitting the Spindle assembly to the X axis, it does not slide on, but is 'blocked' by the turn screw... What should I do?
Hey James. Thanks so much for all your videos on this machine - they're the reason I just bought one for myself. I just saw that they've released a new extension kit to make this a 1000mm machine. Do you have any plans to feature that in an upcoming video please? You're feedback and opinion on it would be invaluable to me and many others.
At the moment I have no plans. Sainsmart have not given me the option and I am also low on space. However it looks like the have covered a few things off such as thicker lead screws to counteract the sagging so I suspect it will be a good setup
Wouldn't it be great if your wiring terminated into a block that you could then slot your board into, just like a SODIMM, upgrading your board would be so easy, it would take a brave company to take the plunge. I suppose Sainsmart will be releasing a 6060 machine at some point also.
That would be good and make life much easier. To my knowledge there isn't a new CNC out any time soon. I think they might be making some improvements to the original prover, there is also meant to be a laser coming for this machine at some point. They also promised a 100 x 100 upgrade kit for this machine but not sure if they will carry on through with that as it will require frame work, a new bed and a new wiring loom. More or less another machine
I recently found your channel when I began researching the genmitsu 4030. I have enjoyed several of your videos. If I get this cnc, it would be my intention to eventually upgrade it. Have you seen the 1010 upgrade? I imagine it would be similar to the 6060. Thanks
@@JamesDeanDesigns what did you do with the old extruded aluminum frame? If I ever get to that point, I would save it.. Maybe make a fence for my band saw or something..
Great video and helping me decide if I will do this.. What are the dimension of the whole unit, it looked deeper more than wide and I was surprised.. lol how much desk space will this take.
James - Just ordered my 6060 extension kit. Where can I find the information on the modification on putting the acme screws on the outside? Nice Job...
Thank you. Not sure if there is a decent video but check this out. Its fairly simple but you do need something to pack the sides as you'll see in the link www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/10/genmitsu-proverxl-4030-cnc-router-review-mods-projects/amp/
Great video. I currently have the 3018prover that I expanded to 4030. I’ve been looking at this machine as a means to expand my capability. Couple of questions You’re using ugs, does the base machine come with Candle? Do you prefer ugs? Can you flip the home position to the front left corner?
Excellent. Yes it comes with Candle but I do prefer UGS. Has some very nice features which Candle doesn't. Yes you can change the homing position, you just need to adjust your $3 setting 👍
Hey James, hope you’re good. Is there any reason why we couldn’t install the Y extrusions (w/lead screws) facing out? This would be really helpful for me to reduce dust build up.
Yes that can be done, but you will need some packers. When you flip the beams, the frame becomes narrower so you end up needing a packer between the gantry end plate and the Y carriages. Im sure people just use 18mm with a few holes drawn in where the bolts need to go. In saying that you may also need longer bolts.
Hi James - A really informative and helpful video - thanks for posting it. Could you advise how I enter the new X & Y measurements into Candle. I haven’t been able to get the $$ commands listed. As I’m using a new 18mm spoilboard as you have demonstrated, will I need to change the Z probe measurements? Thanks again. Andy
As long as your machine is connected you should just be able to type into the console area $130=??? and hit enter. Obviously ?? being the new measurements. Do you get any kind of error code when trying to do this? Z probe settings all remain the same, even with a thicker bed
I never use loctite in my videos, because if I have to resort a scene it tends to get messy. However I do usually suggest that people use it in most of my videos unless I missed it in this one 🤔
Can you envision an frame assembly method that would allow for vertical clamp/vertical table on one end (just 1"to 1-1/2" of travel past the vertical clamp/table) for cutting dovetails? Would need to allow the spindle to make that travel. Perhaps moving one endplate in 2-3 inches?
Dear James, I just built the CNC 4030 with the 6060 kit. Thanks to your video, it worked out great. There's only one problem. The stepper motors turn too far. If I tell them to go 10 mm, they go 15 mm etc. Do you have any ideas what I could change? Thank you for your help. Timo
I am wanting to buy one of these, but I really wish they would sell a 6060 kit rather than having to buy an extra upgrade kit for the 4030. Seems like a waste to me to have those left over parts. That's what is holding me back right now, so hoping some other brand will come out with something more suitable soon. Enjoy the vids though.
I think Sainsmart may have something on the horizon but not sure when it will come out so just depends how patient you can be as I suspect it will be a month or two
@@JamesDeanDesigns According to Sainsmart, this is not the case. Rather than buy the cnc and also upgrade, which is about $800 more here, just as well to buy a better machine if I can find one that suits me.
Another cracking video James 👍 Have been considering the upgrade but still unsure as can only go longer on the X due to the available space I have. Also, any idea when this will be available in the UK (assume yours was a pre-release for the video)
Thanks Stephen. Available in the US as of tomorrow. The EU and UK as of June, so only a few weeks away. Completely get what your saying, if you can only expand the X then you're paying for parts you may not use.
Yes, a few people have done it, the only issue is is bring the Y axis runners in by about 20-30mm so you then need packers to attach the X axis to the carriages. Thats why it gets a bit more complicated
The 300w will go through aluminium but the more powerful you can go the better it will be. The easiest option is to upgraded to something like a Dewalt router however many people advise going for a VFD and spindle area better combination. Its just a little more complex as you have to learn how to use a VFD
Hi James I am new to the CNC machines and I am looking to start making cut out name signs and I am looking at the Proverxl. My question to you is what would be the longest cutout word/name will I be able to do with the extension?
The cutting area is 600 x 600 so in theory you can go upto that big for a single pass. There is something called tiling which is essentially where you machine one part, slide the material along, do the second part etc. Its quite easy but means you can potentially do really long pieces such as several meters
@@JamesDeanDesigns thank you for your response. So if I learn how to do tiling as you mentioned could I get 1000mm sign from this machine with the extension kit? This is a big investment for me and I would like to not be to limited with what I can sell.
@@mjbritt7394 Yes. With the extension kit it will go up to 600mm wide but as long as you need with tiling. Not all design software can do tiling. I haven't got a video on it but there will be lots of videos on TH-cam. Its basically where you do the design as one, but then section it into multiple cuts
Im trying to decide which cnc go get. I have watched your video. They are great. However I cant get any links to open. Id like to do as many different types of materials as possible. Is there one kit that is a bit bigger than the 3018 that has the laser and router together? Or no matter what i pick i have to buy laser separate?
Sainsmart havent released the laser for their machine yet, but FoxAlien have on the 4040-XE www.foxalien.com/collections/cnc-router/products/pre-order-cnc-router-machine-4040-xe?sca_ref=725103.t6qfXeHAnx
I’m thinking 🤔 taking my 3018 and make it bigger or just build one . All of these Extension and add-ons ect ect cost way to much to upgrade but maybe. Should just bought a bigger machine 🤔 any thoughts
I haven't worked out the costs but its safe to say buying all the parts separate from somewhere would work out a little cheaper and a few people have done it. Part of what you're paying for with these kits is the ease. You don't have to go and find all the parts separately, you know the kit includes everything you need and most importantly you know its going to work out of the box. I thought the ProverXL was too expensive when it was released but what I realised is you save so much time over buying something like an OpenBuilds machine. It works out of the box, you don't need to mess around and thats why its worth the money in the end
@@JamesDeanDesigns I am building my own CNC and yes it takes longer than expected.. and then there are the tools that need to be bought to help make the CNC and the list goes on and on
@@adrianharrison5208 it does mount up. In one of the Facebook groups there was a guy going on about building his own 1000x1000 machine for under £500, but 6 months later he was still posting about issues that he couldn't resolve or hadn't quite got correct. Given that most of us have a dream of making money off these machines, 6 months is a long time to go without really being able to make anything
Needs serious revision. Gantry wheels super tight with flat spots out of the box. Loosing the screws is not the answer. They need to make them adjustable, even later with wear they will need adjustment. Way to much slop in the ends of the lead screws ant the bearing interface. Really sad to miss the mark on easy fixes. Just returned mine to Amazon.
Agree on the wheel adjustments, eccentric nuts would have done the job and easy enough to use. Can honestly say I didn't have any slack in my lead screws though. Sorry it didn't work out for you though 😕
@@JamesDeanDesigns Man I so needed it for my production line. You dead on about eccentric nuts. The x axis lead screw had 2.1mm slop. Maybe the will put $2 in the $1k machine to make it all it could be.
They may do but it wasnt ready at the time of the 4030. Plus a 6060 is a bit too big for some people as well as it really starts to push what is a desktop CNC... you need a fairly deep desk to take this
I was hoping this would just be after they released it and they would eventually release the 6060 as a full kit but that doesn't appear to be the case. Unfortunately its not great as you do end up with parts you no longer need. This is currently my main issue with Sainsmart. You could take a look at the Yorahome Silverback which is a very similar machine
Unless you don't have room for a 1.5m machine like myself or want to spend days assembling or arw a complete novice. Both good machines just targeted at different audiences.
Must say the provert is not a micky mouse machine however I thought that about the workbee comparing it to my seif build as not in the universe for a lot less
I dont like that they are comming out with all these expansions to their basic machines so fast.. You buy it too soon and then regret that you did cuz didnt go for the latest and greatest conversion that came out a month after you had originaly paid out to have it converted it the first time, and now your converting it again... When the original ones came out there was never a mini to small to bigger converions, as they are now comming in, like monthly, boom, boom boom.. Better to slow down and do a wait and see aproach when buying any conversions as to what are they are going to do next and save your money.. You never want to buy the first of anything as it will always be full of bugs. This latest XXL conversion makes the previous XL one less of what it was originaly.. Whats next? a 3, 4, 5XL?
Hi Ricardo, I think there is some confusion. The ProverXL is a brand new, larger machine that came out last year. Its not an upgrade to the 3018 Prover. This extension kit was also advertised at the time they released the ProverXL 4030, in fact most people have complained about how long its took to be released as it was expected back in January. Hope that helps
@@JamesDeanDesigns I know.. If I knew if they were coming up with the XL I wouldn't of been buying the 3018, then they come out with the XL and now the XXL update.. The 3018 didn't have a conversion for years and was the standard size for all the ProVer clones too... Now those 3018 are pretty much dead and cheap as to what they were, before the XL and are now considered more of a toy than before compared to the XL and even more now the XXL is what I'm saying..
Got my 6060 yesterday and finished putting it all together today. Boy was it a long build. Now just have to get the board. I ordered it through your link.
Thats appreciated, thank you. Yes, it is a bit long as you essentially have to strip the old machine down and practically build a new machine but worth it in the end 😁
Strewth James, with so many CNC's you won't have room to swing a 3.175mm bit!! If you feel like selling one to make space ... before you take over the spare bedroom!! Good to see the build hot off the press before general release.
Thats it for now!!! 🤣 I had to make a decision last year as to whether I went for one big machine like a Workbee or a couple of smaller ones. Due to my work space and not wanting to move away from "desktop" CNC's for my TH-cam channel I decided for two smaller one. But I've well and truly ran out of space now 😕
Guess bye bye 3018 & Not selling the Alien then ??
Is there much left of the 4030 original ? Surely you've changed all the rails & spindles. The corners, X axis upstands, nuts, bolts & wiring must be the only original kit?
Thank you for the great detailed information. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Hope the videos help 👍
Hi James, something I have noticed about all the 4030 machines. The X axis cable chain is not correct even in the manual and building instructions. The cable chain should roll out along its length like the Y axis cable chain does but in effect it drags the lower part along the X axis, eventually scratching and chaffing through. If you were to invert the chain and fasten the lower motor bracket to the start point on the X axis and put the tall bracket on the motor, the chain would then unroll as it should not causing any chaffing on the top of the X axis like it does at present, I don't have a 4030, yet, but you may need to make new fixing brackets to make it work correctly as I don't know for sure if the brackets are interchangeable without some modification.
Hey James. Thank you for your work. one question: Which dimension has the drag chain? Mine is missing in the extension package. Thanks
Hi James, great video.
Thanks. Not at my machine at the moment but if I remember correctly the opposite end of the thread is held in with a spring clip (or should be anyway) so that side doesn't actually come off and is why you put it on at the side with the stem.
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thanks James, you are correct as I later discovered. I realized that I had put the Z axis assembly on the X axis gantry inverted...how? not sure. But I'm prone to finding new ways to set myself back. Might be a good talking point for future produtions.. LOL Cheers!
@@shawnawesome4848 Happens to us all. I think I mentioned it in the video but I put something on the wrong way as well.
Great and informative video as usual man 👏
I'd love to see you building the PrintNC 😍😍😍
thank you :)
It would be good if they bring out a kit like this for the 4030 V2. I believe they plan to.
Yes they plan to. I was expecting an announcement by now but I think it will later in the year
Hi James. It's very interresting to learn from all the good tips, your are showing. I would be very interresting in seeing you setting up a 4th axis, or even better seeing a cnc lath with grbl.
This is great, do you have the overall new dimensions with this extension kit? I built a table for my 4030 and I need to figure out where I'm going to put it.
@@SimpleUrbanFarmer think i put it in the video before this one. About 105cm x 105cm In believe
@ thank you very much. Does this include space as well for the motors? I just wanna make sure I’ve got room all the way around this thing for a new table.
@@SimpleUrbanFarmer yes, the 105 includes the motors. You may want to leave a bit more around it for access
I'm waiting for the video where you extend your workshop to fit the growing CNC beds in.
🤣 me too. The full workshop is 14x8 but a quarter is used for storage of garden things like chairs, BBQ stuff etc. Hopefully getting rid of all that and getting the rest of the rest of the space back for the workshop
Double (or triple) Deck your CNC's on drawer runners, put a sound deadening wall rather than individual housings. A guy I know in Switzerland mounted his vertically on pull down slides vertical to horizontal. (Lookup " I simply built it")
th-cam.com/video/2Pa1Eq72t4Y/w-d-xo.html
Get rid of all the toys and build the PrintNC, the real machine 😂😂😂
Merci pour ce que vous faites ! Peut-on couper en une passe avec cette machine 15mm ?
If you upgrade the spindle then yes it possibly can but I would still be safe and do that depth in several passes
I need something like this for my 4040 pro 😢
Hi James. Is there a description on to change around the C beam from inside to out? Thanks
Mike
Hi Mike, I dont really have one. I've seen some people do it but essentially your C beams come closer together, so you end up needing something to pack out the carriages a little to allow the X axis gantry to connect. Probably also longer bolts as well to connect the gantry
Could I use this kit with an upgraded 3018 that been upgraded to a 3040
I have been watching your excellent video on installing the 6060 extension kit.
In the video and in the SainSmart installation Guide, the Spindle assembly slides onto the X-axis easily.
When I try fitting the Spindle assembly to the X axis, it does not slide on, but is 'blocked' by the turn screw...
What should I do?
Hey James. Thanks so much for all your videos on this machine - they're the reason I just bought one for myself.
I just saw that they've released a new extension kit to make this a 1000mm machine. Do you have any plans to feature that in an upcoming video please? You're feedback and opinion on it would be invaluable to me and many others.
At the moment I have no plans. Sainsmart have not given me the option and I am also low on space. However it looks like the have covered a few things off such as thicker lead screws to counteract the sagging so I suspect it will be a good setup
Wouldn't it be great if your wiring terminated into a block that you could then slot your board into, just like a SODIMM, upgrading your board would be so easy, it would take a brave company to take the plunge.
I suppose Sainsmart will be releasing a 6060 machine at some point also.
That would be good and make life much easier. To my knowledge there isn't a new CNC out any time soon. I think they might be making some improvements to the original prover, there is also meant to be a laser coming for this machine at some point. They also promised a 100 x 100 upgrade kit for this machine but not sure if they will carry on through with that as it will require frame work, a new bed and a new wiring loom. More or less another machine
I recently found your channel when I began researching the genmitsu 4030. I have enjoyed several of your videos. If I get this cnc, it would be my intention to eventually upgrade it. Have you seen the 1010 upgrade? I imagine it would be similar to the 6060. Thanks
Yes, pretty much the same process except I think they so give you a new wiring loom
@@JamesDeanDesigns what did you do with the old extruded aluminum frame? If I ever get to that point, I would save it.. Maybe make a fence for my band saw or something..
@@ericeinsmann5559 mine is all sitting in a box under my counter. Kind of a waste but I'm sure I'll find use for it at some point
Great video and helping me decide if I will do this.. What are the dimension of the whole unit, it looked deeper more than wide and I was surprised.. lol how much desk space will this take.
just put all the size info into this short video but 105cm x 105cm is the footprint
th-cam.com/video/de7qCLApghY/w-d-xo.html
James - Just ordered my 6060 extension kit. Where can I find the information on the modification on putting the acme screws on the outside? Nice Job...
Thank you. Not sure if there is a decent video but check this out. Its fairly simple but you do need something to pack the sides as you'll see in the link www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/10/genmitsu-proverxl-4030-cnc-router-review-mods-projects/amp/
Great video. I currently have the 3018prover that I expanded to 4030. I’ve been looking at this machine as a means to expand my capability.
Couple of questions
You’re using ugs, does the base machine come with Candle? Do you prefer ugs?
Can you flip the home position to the front left corner?
Excellent. Yes it comes with Candle but I do prefer UGS. Has some very nice features which Candle doesn't. Yes you can change the homing position, you just need to adjust your $3 setting 👍
Hey James, hope you’re good.
Is there any reason why we couldn’t install the Y extrusions (w/lead screws) facing out? This would be really helpful for me to reduce dust build up.
Yes that can be done, but you will need some packers. When you flip the beams, the frame becomes narrower so you end up needing a packer between the gantry end plate and the Y carriages. Im sure people just use 18mm with a few holes drawn in where the bolts need to go. In saying that you may also need longer bolts.
Please explain your reply
Hi James - A really informative and helpful video - thanks for posting it. Could you advise how I enter the new X & Y measurements into Candle. I haven’t been able to get the $$ commands listed. As I’m using a new 18mm spoilboard as you have demonstrated, will I need to change the Z probe measurements? Thanks again.
Andy
As long as your machine is connected you should just be able to type into the console area $130=??? and hit enter. Obviously ?? being the new measurements. Do you get any kind of error code when trying to do this? Z probe settings all remain the same, even with a thicker bed
no loctite? after a month on goodntight screws mine all started backing out. its a year later and no loose screws after loctite.
I never use loctite in my videos, because if I have to resort a scene it tends to get messy. However I do usually suggest that people use it in most of my videos unless I missed it in this one 🤔
Can you envision an frame assembly method that would allow for vertical clamp/vertical table on one end (just 1"to 1-1/2" of travel past the vertical clamp/table) for cutting dovetails? Would need to allow the spindle to make that travel. Perhaps moving one endplate in 2-3 inches?
Dear James, I just built the CNC 4030 with the 6060 kit. Thanks to your video, it worked out great. There's only one problem. The stepper motors turn too far. If I tell them to go 10 mm, they go 15 mm etc. Do you have any ideas what I could change?
Thank you for your help.
Timo
Check your GRBL settings. 100, 101 and 102 should all be set at 160
@@JamesDeanDesigns Dear James, thank you very much for your tip. That was actually the solution to my problem.
Have a good new year.
Timo
@jamesdean.... can I flip the entire gantry so that the router is facing opposite way I built my machine in a corner
In theory yes but I'm not 100% off the top of my head and I'm not at my machine.
@@JamesDeanDesigns ok I think I would also have to flip the x axis In grbl
Hi, would you be able to upgrade a 3018 straight up to a 6060.
I am wanting to buy one of these, but I really wish they would sell a 6060 kit rather than having to buy an extra upgrade kit for the 4030. Seems like a waste to me to have those left over parts. That's what is holding me back right now, so hoping some other brand will come out with something more suitable soon. Enjoy the vids though.
I think Sainsmart may have something on the horizon but not sure when it will come out so just depends how patient you can be as I suspect it will be a month or two
@@JamesDeanDesigns According to Sainsmart, this is not the case. Rather than buy the cnc and also upgrade, which is about $800 more here, just as well to buy a better machine if I can find one that suits me.
Another cracking video James 👍
Have been considering the upgrade but still unsure as can only go longer on the X due to the available space I have.
Also, any idea when this will be available in the UK (assume yours was a pre-release for the video)
Thanks Stephen. Available in the US as of tomorrow. The EU and UK as of June, so only a few weeks away. Completely get what your saying, if you can only expand the X then you're paying for parts you may not use.
You think that you could put the screw arms on the OUTSIDE instead of the INSIDE so debris wouldn't get into the screws of the 1000mm arms??
Yes, a few people have done it, the only issue is is bring the Y axis runners in by about 20-30mm so you then need packers to attach the X axis to the carriages. Thats why it gets a bit more complicated
Do you have a recommendation for a different motor or do I need it when cutting aluminum?
The 300w will go through aluminium but the more powerful you can go the better it will be. The easiest option is to upgraded to something like a Dewalt router however many people advise going for a VFD and spindle area better combination. Its just a little more complex as you have to learn how to use a VFD
Do you know what the slot size is on the extrusions? I have some 8mm slot extrusions I could use to support the bed, if it matches these.
The actual opening slot is about 6.5mm so 8mm T nuts should be able to slide in from the end but not drop in like a hammer nut would
Hi James I am new to the CNC machines and I am looking to start making cut out name signs and I am looking at the Proverxl. My question to you is what would be the longest cutout word/name will I be able to do with the extension?
The cutting area is 600 x 600 so in theory you can go upto that big for a single pass. There is something called tiling which is essentially where you machine one part, slide the material along, do the second part etc. Its quite easy but means you can potentially do really long pieces such as several meters
@@JamesDeanDesigns thank you for your response. So if I learn how to do tiling as you mentioned could I get 1000mm sign from this machine with the extension kit?
This is a big investment for me and I would like to not be to limited with what I can sell.
@@mjbritt7394 Yes. With the extension kit it will go up to 600mm wide but as long as you need with tiling. Not all design software can do tiling. I haven't got a video on it but there will be lots of videos on TH-cam. Its basically where you do the design as one, but then section it into multiple cuts
Okay got it. Thank you I will keep looking for one that does
Im trying to decide which cnc go get. I have watched your video. They are great. However I cant get any links to open. Id like to do as many different types of materials as possible. Is there one kit that is a bit bigger than the 3018 that has the laser and router together? Or no matter what i pick i have to buy laser separate?
Sainsmart havent released the laser for their machine yet, but FoxAlien have on the 4040-XE www.foxalien.com/collections/cnc-router/products/pre-order-cnc-router-machine-4040-xe?sca_ref=725103.t6qfXeHAnx
I’m thinking 🤔 taking my 3018 and make it bigger or just build one . All of these
Extension and add-ons ect ect cost way to much to upgrade but maybe. Should just bought a bigger machine 🤔 any thoughts
I haven't worked out the costs but its safe to say buying all the parts separate from somewhere would work out a little cheaper and a few people have done it. Part of what you're paying for with these kits is the ease. You don't have to go and find all the parts separately, you know the kit includes everything you need and most importantly you know its going to work out of the box. I thought the ProverXL was too expensive when it was released but what I realised is you save so much time over buying something like an OpenBuilds machine. It works out of the box, you don't need to mess around and thats why its worth the money in the end
@@JamesDeanDesigns I am building my own CNC and yes it takes longer than expected.. and then there are the tools that need to be bought to help make the CNC and the list goes on and on
@@adrianharrison5208 it does mount up. In one of the Facebook groups there was a guy going on about building his own 1000x1000 machine for under £500, but 6 months later he was still posting about issues that he couldn't resolve or hadn't quite got correct. Given that most of us have a dream of making money off these machines, 6 months is a long time to go without really being able to make anything
@@JamesDeanDesigns yes and that has benthe case for me with one of my machines and its still not up and running
Needs serious revision. Gantry wheels super tight with flat spots out of the box. Loosing the screws is not the answer. They need to make them adjustable, even later with wear they will need adjustment.
Way to much slop in the ends of the lead screws ant the bearing interface.
Really sad to miss the mark on easy fixes. Just returned mine to Amazon.
Agree on the wheel adjustments, eccentric nuts would have done the job and easy enough to use. Can honestly say I didn't have any slack in my lead screws though. Sorry it didn't work out for you though 😕
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Man I so needed it for my production line. You dead on about eccentric nuts. The x axis lead screw had 2.1mm slop.
Maybe the will put $2 in the $1k machine to make it all it could be.
Is this available in this country please
Hi Peter. What country? So far it's available in the US, it will then be released to the UK and Europe in June I believe
Cost
Why would they not just sell the complete kit as 6060 rather than buy a 4030 and have to buy the extension kit.
They may do but it wasnt ready at the time of the 4030. Plus a 6060 is a bit too big for some people as well as it really starts to push what is a desktop CNC... you need a fairly deep desk to take this
also guessing they have a quite a lot of 4030 parts around they need to use
They want you to use the 4030 and then throw most of it away and get 6060 extension kit. Why can't they sell a complete 6060 machine.
I was hoping this would just be after they released it and they would eventually release the 6060 as a full kit but that doesn't appear to be the case. Unfortunately its not great as you do end up with parts you no longer need. This is currently my main issue with Sainsmart. You could take a look at the Yorahome Silverback which is a very similar machine
Just buy a 1.5 x 1.5 meter Workbee with a 2.2KW water cooled spindle. Same price as the mickey mouse PROVerXXL: but 5x the machine.
Unless you don't have room for a 1.5m machine like myself or want to spend days assembling or arw a complete novice. Both good machines just targeted at different audiences.
Must say the provert is not a micky mouse machine however I thought that about the workbee comparing it to my seif build as not in the universe for a lot less
I dont like that they are comming out with all these expansions to their basic machines so fast..
You buy it too soon and then regret that you did cuz didnt go for the latest and greatest conversion that came out a month after you had originaly paid out to have it converted it the first time, and now your converting it again...
When the original ones came out there was never a mini to small to bigger converions, as they are now comming in, like monthly, boom, boom boom..
Better to slow down and do a wait and see aproach when buying any conversions as to what are they are going to do next and save your money..
You never want to buy the first of anything as it will always be full of bugs.
This latest XXL conversion makes the previous XL one less of what it was originaly..
Whats next? a 3, 4, 5XL?
Hi Ricardo, I think there is some confusion. The ProverXL is a brand new, larger machine that came out last year. Its not an upgrade to the 3018 Prover.
This extension kit was also advertised at the time they released the ProverXL 4030, in fact most people have complained about how long its took to be released as it was expected back in January. Hope that helps
@@JamesDeanDesigns I know.. If I knew if they were coming up with the XL I wouldn't of been buying the 3018, then they come out with the XL and now the XXL update..
The 3018 didn't have a conversion for years and was the standard size for all the ProVer clones too... Now those 3018 are pretty much dead and cheap as to what they were, before the XL and are now considered more of a toy than before compared to the XL and even more now the XXL is what I'm saying..
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