Does Ninja Scroll Hold Up?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2019
- Does Yoshiaki Kawajiri's Feature still hold up in the Madhouse library, Ninja Scroll is something else I'll say that much
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@@VicAusTaxiTruckie that's annoying glad you are back though
@@VicAusTaxiTruckie like why
Of course it does! This is one of the most badass anime ever made!
🙄😳 FACTS!
I keep reading your comment, and for the life of me, I cannot find the lie......
And berserk
And fist of the north star
Tremendous
This was one of the most aesthetically stylish films.
Of course it does! It isn't just 'anime', Ninja Scroll is a piece of art.
So nostalgic. I remember being blown away when i saw this a kid. Still one of my favourite animated movies today.
How about a rewatch :)
@@projectfear22 fr
I saw this pretty young. Probably my first anime. I absolutely adore this ‘old’ style of anime
Kaoru Wada was in fact Ifukube's understudy! In his panels at Otakon, he made it clear that combining Western and Eastern classical elements is his life's work, as he did again in a much bigger way on Inuyasha.
They mention something like this in the Ninja Scroll commentary but i didn't know if they meant they were taught by him or if they were super inspired by Ifukube, Ifukube's music is great though I know he produced the OST for Toei's Wanpaku Ōji no Orochi Taiji that they just kept using in shows until the end of the 70s.
Elaborate for my dumb mind xd?
Classic movie, way ahead of its time, I will never forget when I 1st saw it ......good movie to see
I have a funny story on how I came across this gem of a film :
Back in the late 90's we rented Disney's Pocahontas VHS for a while and when the movie finished the VHS didn't turn off but instead had the last 5 minutes of ninja scroll in it ... you know the scene where jupei cut genma in half ... this scene sure traumatized me yet intrigued me at the same time ... Years later after the 2003 wa on iraq I came across ninja scroll again in a DVD store ... when I saw the cover I instantly recognized it and bought it and became one of my favorites... thank you for covering it mate👍
funny how these things affect us huh
@@Stevem yup😊😊
and yes Ninja Scroll still hold up until today as classic Madhouse entry
Ninja Scroll became in instant classic for me when I first gazed upon it in 1997. Every scene oozes perfection.
Perfection. Not one single frame isn’t just gorgeous.
Just watched it for the first time after your video. This anime has been exactly what I was looking for. Great stuff.
Wow i'm glad I could help i didnt think anyone would watch it if they hadnt seen it
"Does Ninja Scroll hold up?"
That's gotta be one of the stupidest questions ever made!!! Of course Ninja Scroll still holds up to this very day!!! Not only is Ninja Scroll one of the greatest Ninja-inspired anime films ever but Ninja Scroll is also a genuine bonafide badass anime classic of the highest caliber period👍👍
Right on brother🤙🏽
@@luissalas177 Respect🤙
Totally agree with you here. It was the first anime I ever saw and it opened up my imagination of what animation could be. I love Stevem's dedication to work, hell, I support him on Patreon, but his film critiques are often times out of touch. With that said though, I love his history and behind the scene information of these iconic films and studios. It's worth funding for that alone. In my opinion, nobody cares about sharing those "how it got made" stories more than him.
It deserves a truckload of Oscars. One of the most visceral animated movies; the music, the narrative and voice acting as well as visual and art style would put to shame many live action films.
One of the best animes ever
This and Vapire Hunter D are splendid
I didn't understand one bit of this persons dribbling.. Made me watch ninja scroll again. Excellent movie
Agreed
One of my favorite anime movie, so legendary
I was thinking about it, having just seen Ninja Scroll recently, and then it hit me: Ninja Scroll is to anime what Mad Max: Fury Road is to recent blockbusters.
The characters are archetypes at best, the story is simplistic, with a little depth if you read into it, but not that much... and it does what it does not just well, but SO MUCH BETTER than many others around it, that it still manages to be an exceptional work even with it's flaws.
The first anime i ever watched. I was blown away by the action, animation, gore.. and as a teenager the first time seeing cartoon boobies.. I was hooked.
Same here it was the first anime I ever saw in the early 90s, followed by vampire hunter D and Akira. Totally blew my mind, up until then I had only seen animation from Disney and cartoons on tv so I had no concept of using animation for mature themes/stories until I saw Ninja Scroll
When this and fist of the north star etc. came out on vhs in the UK, manga picked some of the greatest to introduce us to the genre.
I had in VHS, one of the best anime movies that I've watch ever
rented on vhs - didn't know what i in for.
Binged all of your Madhouse stuff, and I love your work! Keep it up! I was blown away when I first saw this, and was both impressed and disappointed with Ninja Ressurection, which had been implied by ADV Films to have been a sequel to Ninja Scroll...
it had nothing to do with it hahahah they were just hoping to trick people
@@Stevem Indeed, and it seems to have worked, on me, and some other folks too. Mind you, I thought the art in both was great, but I remember watching it and wondering how any of it got in with Ninja Scroll. I just wish they had been more honest about it and had more faith in the product...
@@ninjabreadman8166 well i guess they thought it was shit and the only way it could ever sell is if it might be to do with ninja scroll, not the first time someone used that kind of tactic
It’s not _that_ bad.... it’s just that it seems like the second or third episode in a mini series.
And good _LORD_ is it disgustingly gruesome!
Hell Yes. They should have made the Mortal Kombat films animated and simply handed the keys over to Kawajiri. Full creative freedom.
This is a key movie for me and my cousin's childhood and has shaped our tastes till this day.
This does and so does Wicked City but does the original Vampire Hunter D hold up?
I've just watched this again, along with Ghost in the Shell I've watched them both probably 20 times, probably more than that I'm a bit embarressed to say, lol. Once again Ninja Scroll just blew me away, like GITS it somehow manages to get better each watch, no matter how many watches. You could watch it with no subs in silence and it would still be breathtaking. The animation is beyond sublime, words can't describe it.
This and Berserk were the first anime I had ever watched after a friend suggested them in high school a good 15 years ago now. Had no clue there were cartoons like this out there until I had seen them. Being an edgy metalhead as a teen this shit was right up my alley.
Personally I think it does kinda hold up. Not to mention the animation is spectacular.
Also I heard the title was originally gonna be Blood, Boobs, and More Boobs
sounds like a joke but it's not exactly incorrect
You forgot to say that the character designs in this show are amazing.
i prefer kawajiri's wicked city characters, ninja scroll has a style to it which i think is good although the long chins do kinda bother me
@@Stevem Here in Brazil we have a saying that goes: "taste is the same as arse everybody has their own" lol
@@evertonsuzart7919 Yeah i've heard similar sayings before
@@Stevem Everyone has their tastes--but to me the character design is still so similar. Other than the animation, characters and action sequences that still play well is that wonderful score.
This is a masterpiece. I'm so sad that we don't have more animated materijala from Ninja Scroll and Vapire Hunter D.
It's true, this is an absolute masterpiece
Older anime designs are usually way better than modern stuff.
This movie was way ahead of its time.
Ninja scroll, Akira,wicked city,fist of the north star, angel cop, street fighters!
ALL MASTERPIECES!☝🏿
AND TIMELESS!!!
street fighters?
@@Stevem street fighter 2 manga and street fighter alfa the one with akuma!
@@imblacksoimslow5731 i've seen the street fighter movie the animated one which i think is not that one but it wasnt good
@@Stevem I love them both!
@@Stevem street fighter alpha the animation movie and street fighter 2 the animation movie
Does Ninja scroll hold up?!!!!
UUUH YEAH
A better title would be, Does Ninja Scroll Hold Up as one of the best ninja/martial arts animations of all time? Even the dubbed version kicks ass. I would love to see the director do a remaster, remake or sequel with todays anime tech. Perhaps a modern day setting with the same storyline. I dont know, something, anything because its a shame how long its been since Ive seen a good ninja anime production from that director.
IT ABSOUTELY STILL HOLDS UP!
I once mistook Jubei for the historical Yagyu Jubei whose middle part of his life being a mystery inspired folk tales about him being a wandering swordsman righting wrongs, though I read somewhere that the filmmakers intentionally named the character Jubei as a tribute to Yagyu Jubei.
kawajiri said something like y'know i don't know why i called him that I guess it sounds good and a bit like Yagyu Jubei- that's from the directors commentary
A bunch of them featuring character named jubei and they're all basically based off the man with the one eye patch yagyu jubei the legend 💯💯
@@jaysmith3360 what's interesting is that the eye patch aspect was completely fictional as a portrait of the real life Jubei in his older age showed him having both eyes. I wonder how the eye patched Jubei concept came about.
_This film is truly an iconic classic._
Great video, this my first introduction to Madhouse when it was released in the states... was twelve when I bought the VHS tape and it rocked my world.
I watched this all the time as a kid
It's a timeless classic
God this brings me back! I remember my best friend at the time and I renting this from blockbusters thinking it was something else less violent. We just sat there in shock through the whole thing. 😂 Man I miss that feeling when ya first discovered anime. Good ol' 90s schlock I miss ya.
8:27 That doesn't really appear to be true-as much of a dissapointment the movie may have been, it did received generally favorable reviews at the time. It didn't get cinematic release near as I can tell, so hard to judge on that basis, but it wasn't a flop.
Chronicles of the Wind Ninja.
The time setting of Ninja Scroll has NOTHING to do with the Meiji Restoration, but with the end of the Warring States period (Sengoku jidai) and early Tokugawa shogunate.
That's why ninja clans are still a big thing here, mythical, misterious and more focused on political purposes.
How did you capture it in such high quality? is this from the blue ray?
HELL YEAH IT HOLDS UP REALLY WELL> THE ACTION< COLOURS AND DESIGN ARE TIMELESS!!
Without having seen the video or read any comments... June 6, 2020 HELL YAH this film holds. Then. Today. Tomorrow!
Now that i saw the video.... back when this movie came out, i had never seen an anime movie before. To this day, this is the only anime movie i own. Never really cared to see any other anime movies. I mastered the game Sekiro recently and have had ninja sword play on my mind and thats how i ended up here. I gave a thumbs up to this video for the time and effort put in.
Ninja scroll is brilliance ! I wish they'd make more anime in this style
it's not financially feasible on current day schedules and they don't make the money they once did
@@Stevem yeah that's why new anime
9 times out of 10 looks cheap and has no unique style
@@lowertoaster9718 kind of always been like that though , creme rises to the top what defines a generation won't be half measures
@@Stevem yeah I see what youre saying , I just miss the old dark gritty stuff. It's so hard to find these days.
@@lowertoaster9718 there's plenty of more gritty anime coming out just look through the seasonal charts
A whole generation of people are going to learn about ninja scroll through people making retro AMVs.
Do kids still watch amvs now
Ninja scroll was the first Anime i ever saw. I was like 4 or 5 watching this with my dad.
Maybe I heard you wrong. Were you saying that the characters are more roughly drawn? Dude, this was hand drawn! It was beautiful! I can’t think of a single frame from this entire movie that wasn’t crafted with love. As an animated work, I think it is the pinnacle. When you combine that with the fact that it has an incredibly engaging and cinematic story to boot? I’m not some anime nerd. I watched my fair share back in the 90’s growing up with hip hop and skateboarding culture. A lot of it sucked. Some of it was visually thrilling. But this movie was mind blowing. It remains in probably my top 5 favorite films ever. And I have yet to see an animated piece of work come close. As has been said in this comment section, it is more than anime; it is a work of art.
Where did you get this HD version?
Hell yea They need to update Ninja scroll
Think Lone Wolf & Cub minus the child and this is the anime version. A beautifully crafted story that showed me Japan anime does not always have the Hollywood, ever after ending. It's between this and Vampire Hunter D:Blood lust as the GOAT anime movies. Kawajiri is a gift. Let's enjoy him while he is alive and well
0:40 Wrong, has nothing to do with that. It's more inspired by 80's Sonny Chiba/Hiroyuki Sanada horror chambara.
Its one if the best animes ive ever seen. I think the art was superb...
Damn right it does I saw this as a kid and it’s one my favorites as a 36 year old
This movie is an absolute gem
More than ever. Rather than following the path it led down it was abandoned.
about the same genre and era, both hokuto no ken movie and ninja scrolll blew my mind when I first saw them in the early-ish 90s. ninja scroll holds up way better now. can't even sit through hokuto anymore.
I really recommend all the manga adaptations of Yamada Fuutarou books by Segawa Masaki, these are awesome. Only one of them has been made into anime though - Basilisk (Kouga Ninpouchou).
Yeah, NS definitely still stands up. I believe. There was a weird "sequel" that wasn't really a sequel (but marketed as one) to this film called Ninja Resurrection . Parts 1 n 2 were the only ones the studio (Phoenix Entertainment) made before running out of dough--they never finished it. So it ends on a spectacular cliffhanger where all these Satan worshipping Ninja are killing off these Japanese Christians. Only Jubei is left to fight them off. Man, I was pissed when I read the producers ran out of money to finish--or at least what I read at the time. And ADV confused everyone by packaging NR as connective tissue to NS. Undeservingly so, I read on Wikipedia that NR has a bad rep with American anime fans bc of the deceptive marketing.
Ninja Scroll is up there with Akira, Ghost in a Shell & Fist of The North Star as far as anime movies you need to watch
definitely the first film i saw when i was yungin using mIRC to download anime before torrents, that made me a lifelong fan of anime forever. still some of the fucking coolest characters and ideas in any anime all these years later
whoops i just totaly put up in the wrong box but yeah tho this still holds up
If you cant find enjoyment in Ninja Scroll you must hate the world.
wow yeah I gotta look this up again! definitely one of my favorites after getting into anime in the mid 90s.
Badass film so much detail, also inspired MGS 3 one of my fav videogames.
i generally 'like' these videos before i hit 'fullscreen'
appreciate the support
Just watched it yesterday for like the 5th time I can confidently say this is one of the best anime of all time others opinions merely arent a matter to me.
There is nothing at all to complain about in this movie...except jubei is heartbroken
The answer is yes. Still holds up. My favorite is Tessai, the stone ninja. He's very cool and gets quite a bit of screen time.
he's probs the most memorable outside the last guy
You said "people are uglier" in this movie. Kagero was my first waifu. You better take that back!
You said it 😂
If I had to listen to your criticisms of the film without knowing what film you were discussing I would never guess it would be Ninja Scroll. A pity the younger generation don't appreciate the good stuff.
Because when they do watch, they realise that the most prominent female character's most infamous use is to have sex to and cure the protagonist's poisoning
@@thewindthatblows I wish anime had remained an obscure niche interest in the west. People like you ruin everything.
@@TheCoolhead27 Why? I love this movie, I'm saying that when modern people watch this movie they come up with that stuff. I just finished it and found out a review about how problematic it is, never said I agreed with that
@@TheCoolhead27 And also, anime has never been obscure in the west, here in Argentina we've been having these kind of films since the early seventies and were more popular than shows from the United States xd
Top 3 anime Movie 💯🔥🙌🏽
I watched the NS anime series first, loving the designs, characters, music and cool fights. It quickly became one of my fave anime franchises and I think it made me appreciate the film, EVEN more, not that it had to because of how good it was, but rather so in helping me understand/enjoy the Monks and Jubei's character and interactions in the anime more.
It made me appreciate the flavor elements, if you will, more.
i watched this movie so many times and i shared the hell out of it when i could back in the 90s .
out of left field, id really like to see Studio Orange make a ninja scroll film
What have orange made in the past ?
@@Stevem Houseki no Kuni ( Land of the Lustrous) , cgi in ghost in the shell, Beastars ,Soba e
@@siamiam i'm kinda feeling that having no ninja scroll for over 20 years to only convert into a 3d show will not amuse the fanbase
@@Stevem i agree many people would be turned off especially after horribly cgi animes like berserk but my views have changed seeing what orange does compared to other CGi studios , kinda like mad house helped bring about change to the anime industry back in the day Orange is changing cgi today , they utilize 3D CGI in a way that it adds to the cinematography instead of just being too lazy to properly animate. of course there are a lot of traditional anime studios who could make a great Ninja scroll as well .
i have been watching anime since the late 70s (half asian raised in Hawaii) and have grown up seeing the amazing strides and stories the genre has produced so i am a little more open to new ideas and techniques as long as they are done right
@@siamiam i'm not against cgi as a concept but the way i see it the appeal of ninja scroll is how traditionally cel animation it is that look and style, so to see a cgi studio do it i could see that killing the hype(i say this because a similar thing happened to the vampire hunter d tv show), not say anything bad on cgi there's tons of great cgi though japan still has a long way to go before they can hit the levels of american cgi
The graphic sexual violence serves to emphasize how much of a gent Jubei is. He's the only one who treats the ninja girl with any respect.
yes. yes it still holds up.
This was the first anime i saw growing up.
One of the best ones out there. Still kicks ass.
Bruh, Highlander Search for Vengeance was lit
Timeless, fuck yeah!
It's the last authentic anime film done with passion and class. It's also very honest in its portrayals. None of the pussified modern garbage today.
It's the GOAT.
Of course it holds up 👍😎
Does Ninja Scroll hold up shouldn't be a question.
in a word. "yes"
I actually liked the highlander film though I haven't seen it in years.
It’s a CLASSIC!!! 🔥
You get my like because you actually are one of the few western reviewers who realized and recognized the kouga ninja scroll literal rip offs that flies over peoples heads. (I still love this movie because it's its own story probably my favorite anime movie OAT)
Most of them wouldn't have read them to be honest i know it rips it since the director has even admitted it, the film is to quote "a historical drama" with a b movie edge
Yes
Your channel is fantastic!! full of stuff on Japan anime retrospective...please do Vampire Hunter D - Bloodlust...the most flawless, lavish and finest of Kawajiri work
I did want to but i doubt ill be able to cover it with madhouse month for time reasons but i may come back to it later
That is such a disappointing blu-ray release. You would think it would look _beautiful_ with a 35mm negative from 1999.
Unfortunately the Discotek release uses either an inferior print or the transfer to digital HD was screwed up, as the gamma (black levels) are more grey than black, and there are moments where the dvd has more detail.
It really needs a remaster.
What is even more curious is that the release of the first VAMPIRE HUNTER D (1985) looks crystal clear with sharp, vibrant colors and deep blacks.
@@TheRealNormanBates one day I'm sure
@@TheRealNormanBates i hope get remastered one day
Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust is his visual masterpiece. That's Minowa a his best.
There are new animators with the technique to do something like Ninja Scroll and some of them worked in the x-men anime series, the Bayonetta Movie and Redline. Problem is that Kawajiri was never popular in Japan and they don't care for him.
A new movie will look more like Highlander because of the digital painting. There are some Digital animators too now like Shingo Fuji that did key animaton for Xmen and it looks as good as the other guys animating on real paper.
As good as Ninja Scroll (the movie) was and is something about it is forgettable. In fact I downloaded and watched the movie around 2012 and then again recently in 2022 and only after 40 minutes in or so did I realize i saw the movie already but I forgot about it completely and only remembered fragments of it so I was getting deja-vu throughout the first 40 minutes but nothing stood out for me to remember- i still didn't know what would happen- it was as if I was seeing it for the first time and the first time that I did actually watch it I did so without distractions so it really is quite forgettable except by name and art style alone which is memorable.
A movie (and series) that I enjoyed around the time I saw this movie was The Lone Wolf and Cub series. both the movies and tv series are great. Mandalorian owes a lot to that movie series...I bring it up because it has a spin-off movie called Shoguns Assassin that fans of Ninja Scroll should check out since it's gorey and suspenseful
Yes it does!!! Point blank period
The rapey aspects always bothered me, but it has the best action I've ever seen animated
fuck yeah it does, it's Ninja Scroll!
it's crazy how much of a punch it packs even tho it is under 100 minutes... the pacing is brutal. My fav OVA of all time, easily
Hell YES!
"Ninja Scroll is silly"???
I haven’t watched your video but the answer is, emphatically, “YES”
COME ON MAN... Ninja Scroll is a perfect thing.
i wouldnt say perfect though im pretty positive in this video