@@nascar3fan108 i carry a glock 17 9mm , and as for weight it's a major difference, you no longer feel the full weight of 18 rounds (17+1) plus the gun, also have a 31 round clip which is a bit extreme for my taste since it tickles my illegal bone to want the switch for full auto shear, besides that a full 31 round clip feels like i'm still just loading 10 rounds to it , love the ammo can't wait to reload them with my ideal powder and head combo next, my 75 cents worth you won't be disappointed
@@tbantucker yeah I Got a G19 Gen 3 dont got a 31 rd mag but I got a 33 round mag and dual purple n blue 5mw lasers and 500 lumen strobe in flashlight I usually carry the stock 15 rd mags tho unless I just wanna throw in a the 33 for shits n giggles but I try to keep that one more my range shooting mag was just wondering if these are more target ammo or self defense ammo? In how would yoi compare them to hollow points like gold speer dot or federal hsts?
Been carrying this and arx interceptors for the last 5 years. Im glad to see more testing. My experience has been great, no failures to feed on my px4cc nor p365xl. I'd like to see it on clay.
@@Spidermonkey2a i saw the one with the watermelon wrapped in 2 layers of ribs and 4 layers of denim. The watermelon insides were liquefied without penetrating the last layers of denim. Its what helped convinced me.
All the stuff I’ve seen on these rounds are impressive,I bought a couple boxes and have been using in my EDC.i also like I can feel the weight difference vs a regular 124 fully loaded magazine.they have been 100 reliable in my gun also
The probability that the projectile driften downwards was due to your firing form a position that was elevated from the gel, had you fired from a level position with the gel the results would probably have been different. However, you have found the devastation these reound can cause even being so light, but traveling fast! The casings can be safely reloaded numerous times when loaded within standard limits, and even numerous times with excessive loads as has been shown in other extreme tests. I carry these loads in my EDC guns on a regular basis, not only for the damage created in soft tissue but the ability to penetrate harder objects as well. Since they do not have a hollow tip there is no possibility of them being clogged by clothing or other similar objects. I hope you enjoy the NOVEX reounds as much as I do.
Probably. I tried to crouch and be as level as possible but I'm sure I was still at an angle. They are definitely a cool round for self defense for sure.
The company says it can be reloaded but ive heard that the cases will separate at the bottom, aluminum base stainless top. Seems very, very likely too. I will definitely try it. Hopefully i don't have a case stuck in a sizing die!
I'll comment as I go... 2:20 Keep in mind, the ''little bit less'' recoil is also a *_higher ME_* round! 3:45 If said fluid dynamics causing an internal ''liquid sonic boom'' occurred at a point more than 1/2 way through the jug, I'd expect it could cause the jug & remnants within to be thrown rearward.
Right!. Very interesting round with a lot of scientific research involved. I wish people (TH-camrs) would start testing these more!! This was literally the only gel test I could find & i missed it the first time since I was searching quickly. Really wish it was clear gel!
Also why would you wanna have to rely on your hp tip not getting clogged up and your hollow point expanding when you can just rely on these working from the start since they don’t rely on expansion… I don’t know I guess I can see it both ways but I think this ammo is a game changer in my opinion since I like the light weight feature they are so much lighter
I agree, these are a game changer but some people are set in there ways, like the 45 carriers, these have more power than most 45 rounds & will do more damage!
I think in .380 these might be OK like in the winter time to penetrate heavy clothing? In the summer maybe carry the Liberty Civil Defense? I don't know, I am just a guy who is curious about new bullet technologies.
I bought 3 boxes last month and shot some pumpkins that were sized 6" to 18". Not impressed at all. I will stick to the high end JHP for EDC. But I liked your video!
I have to do some testing on my own somehow when I go shoot next time.I want to see how these do through a barrier,car door/windshield and such.I’m assuming that’s going too be the bad part of these.
@@NA-rr7jlbecause they are so lightweight they rely on speed to do damage. When they meet a barrier, the speed and therefore the effectiveness drops off drastically. Unlike a bonded hollow point for example, which performs much better through barriers since they are much less reliant on velocity. I still choose to carry ballistic tip bonded hollow point. Best of all worlds for defensive carry
why didnt you shoot squash and jugs with a couple different hollow points for comparison? There is nothing to judge against... anyway thanks and be well :)
I have used these in my Ruger PC 9 Carbine Rifle on Both Feral Hogs & Coyotes at a distance of 100 yards the 400 Pound Feral Hog was Shot in the head and was killed instantly the coyote was hit in the front shoulder and dropped instantly in his tracks the wound was pure devastation the bullet hit both shoulder bones on a 60-pound Coyote the exit wound was the size of a golf ball. I use these on the job as Nuisance Wild Life Control Operator. as well as culling deer. This futuristic bullet works well and is extremely fast out of the 9mm carbine Rifles 16.5 " Barrel.It hits hard penetrates deep makes a devastating wound channel.
Has anyone ran into any issues with these rounds feeding? I fired some of these with my sig p320and 2 out of 10 rounds didn't feed properly, and I haven't ran into any problems with any other ammo. I think maybe these rounds are slightly shorter than target loads and they may not have been seated in the magazine properly.
Yes, I bought three boxes of this stuff to test and carry, as I was told it was a really good round. I had the same issue, every 3-6 rounds would fail to feed. Started to just shoot the last box at the range, and of course that one ran flawlessly. Can’t say I’d trust my life with it personally compared to other rounds on the market.
They absolutely will destroy a center block, fmj may be a little better for similar things but they're a lot harder than you are thinking & with there energy can really penetrate well, as your gel showed. I believe you have the only gel test on the web & i missed it the first time, maybe it should be in the title. Wish it was clear but i take your word & it done what it should & penetrated well. 120,000rpm is what they claim i believe with the nose design which really does the "magic" or science here, really wish i could see the gel better but i understand; maybe next time you could shine a light behind it & that would help see it better on camera. Its designed to be even more devastating when introduced to the bodily fluids & have a venturi effect, it creates massive pressures & awesome wound cavities & channels, also should not really be effected by heavier winter clothing like most HPs. They claim faster cycling too, 106gr total is really nice especially if you have to carry a lot of ammo like me, after 8 hrs it makes a big difference & at 20 rounds a box for defense im carrying almost 4 boxes.🙄 With 430 ft\lbs of energy its a awesome round that is sure not to disappoint. Hopefully soon ill get to test on some critter or maybe a deer, sometimes ya know may not be totally dead & ill put a round directly in the heart. Anyways good testing i enjoyed it!👍
This was the only self defense ammo I could get in these hard times, would you assume this would go straight through a person and maybe dangerous? Really curious
Honestly I wasn't getting any more penetration with these than I did with regular hollow points. Also I think upon hitting something solid like a bone, these will lose steam fast
Ballistic tests show it at 50 yards going 16 inches in with an almost 2 inch wound channel. 12 inches into gel when tested behind a car windshield. They are lethal
No it should not! It acts different with bodily fluids by design. Also remember gel is less dense than human flesh & is not a 1:1 comparison. 16" in gel may only be 6-8" in a person or less. I've shot deer up close with 9mm gold dot HPs, just to quickly dispatch the animal & a heart shot hitting no bones 2-3' away will not even pass through; that was surprising to me. In gel those will get a whole lot of penetration. A lot of people get way too caught up in gel test & penetration but not understanding its very different, its meant to be a decent consistent testing medium for all testers to have similar results. Although many types of gel are available if two or more are using like materials the tests should be valid. One should always consider whats behind a target, but i wouldn't consider these no worse than any other round & over penetration shouldn't be a problem.
Perhaps I'm gestimating incorrectly, but to my eyes, the NOVX over-penetrated per the FBI's 12-18" range, although it might have been less if it had to pass through the required 4 layers of clothing that weren't there. I'm now packing Underwood's fluted solid coper Xtreme Defenders, as to which there have been ample tests of it's exceptional performance. From the shape of the NOVX bullets, I'm guessing that the Underwood XD's were their inspiration, but they're charging so much more per round, one would think they must be so much better--which I haven't seen evidence of yet.
This is what I currently carry in my sig 365. The gun likes it and I like the weight savings when I conceal in my vest.
This is what I carry everyday. I have done some testing myself and I was pretty impressed. Trust my life with it
Its good stuff
Is it really worth the hype in what's the difference between this in some hollow points ammo at higher grains? And where can I find this ammo?
@@nascar3fan108 i carry a glock 17 9mm , and as for weight it's a major difference, you no longer feel the full weight of 18 rounds (17+1) plus the gun, also have a 31 round clip which is a bit extreme for my taste since it tickles my illegal bone to want the switch for full auto shear, besides that a full 31 round clip feels like i'm still just loading 10 rounds to it , love the ammo can't wait to reload them with my ideal powder and head combo next, my 75 cents worth you won't be disappointed
@@tbantucker yeah I Got a G19 Gen 3 dont got a 31 rd mag but I got a 33 round mag and dual purple n blue 5mw lasers and 500 lumen strobe in flashlight I usually carry the stock 15 rd mags tho unless I just wanna throw in a the 33 for shits n giggles but I try to keep that one more my range shooting mag was just wondering if these are more target ammo or self defense ammo? In how would yoi compare them to hollow points like gold speer dot or federal hsts?
@@nascar3fan108 well you must really be uneducated to think these could possibly just be range ammo lmao 🤣
Been carrying this and arx interceptors for the last 5 years. Im glad to see more testing. My experience has been great, no failures to feed on my px4cc nor p365xl. I'd like to see it on clay.
Clay was what I initially saw it tested on. It blew it up
@@Spidermonkey2a i saw the one with the watermelon wrapped in 2 layers of ribs and 4 layers of denim. The watermelon insides were liquefied without penetrating the last layers of denim. Its what helped convinced me.
Thats a heck of a test! Lol. Very convincing
All the stuff I’ve seen on these rounds are impressive,I bought a couple boxes and have been using in my EDC.i also like I can feel the weight difference vs a regular 124 fully loaded magazine.they have been 100 reliable in my gun also
Very nice
What is your EDC? Mine is the sar9 and it runs these rounds fine also. They are also the only rounds I put 3 through the same hole.
@@slimshakey5494 Canik TP9 sc elite,I like these rounds a lot for sure.
The probability that the projectile driften downwards was due to your firing form a position that was elevated from the gel, had you fired from a level position with the gel the results would probably have been different. However, you have found the devastation these reound can cause even being so light, but traveling fast! The casings can be safely reloaded numerous times when loaded within standard limits, and even numerous times with excessive loads as has been shown in other extreme tests.
I carry these loads in my EDC guns on a regular basis, not only for the damage created in soft tissue but the ability to penetrate harder objects as well. Since they do not have a hollow tip there is no possibility of them being clogged by clothing or other similar objects. I hope you enjoy the NOVEX reounds as much as I do.
Probably. I tried to crouch and be as level as possible but I'm sure I was still at an angle. They are definitely a cool round for self defense for sure.
I want NOVX to make em for 7.62x25 tok.
@@Spidermonkey2a it happens, they say that it starts to tumble sometimes & that could have done it.
The company says it can be reloaded but ive heard that the cases will separate at the bottom, aluminum base stainless top. Seems very, very likely too. I will definitely try it. Hopefully i don't have a case stuck in a sizing die!
I'm a fan of these. Lighter, faster, louder and much less recoil. These cartridges are really supreme.
Would like to see it with the chronograph to see speeds you are getting.
Might have to make that happen
it's cold out there , do a temperature variation in a future with the gal test.
I'll comment as I go...
2:20 Keep in mind, the ''little bit less'' recoil is also a *_higher ME_* round!
3:45 If said fluid dynamics causing an internal ''liquid sonic boom'' occurred at a point more than 1/2 way through the jug, I'd expect it could cause the jug & remnants within to be thrown rearward.
Right!. Very interesting round with a lot of scientific research involved. I wish people (TH-camrs) would start testing these more!! This was literally the only gel test I could find & i missed it the first time since I was searching quickly. Really wish it was clear gel!
I need to see what these chrono at from a carbine
... but thank you for posting this
Thanks for watching
Also why would you wanna have to rely on your hp tip not getting clogged up and your hollow point expanding when you can just rely on these working from the start since they don’t rely on expansion… I don’t know I guess I can see it both ways but I think this ammo is a game changer in my opinion since I like the light weight feature they are so much lighter
They are definitely a good option
I agree, these are a game changer but some people are set in there ways, like the 45 carriers, these have more power than most 45 rounds & will do more damage!
I think in .380 these might be OK like in the winter time to penetrate heavy clothing? In the summer maybe carry the Liberty Civil Defense? I don't know, I am just a guy who is curious about new bullet technologies.
It's definitely amazing the stuff they come up with
Heck they fragged that squash and made a garage door in that jug so it seems ok.
I bought 3 boxes last month and shot some pumpkins that were sized 6" to 18". Not impressed at all. I will stick to the high end JHP for EDC. But I liked your video!
Much appreciated 🙏. They're not everyone's first choice that's for sure
Seen another video, those bullets do not break or deform
Cool test, I loaded some a while back and found your channel thinking about testing mine, subbed
Thanks! Glad to have you on board.
I have to do some testing on my own somehow when I go shoot next time.I want to see how these do through a barrier,car door/windshield and such.I’m assuming that’s going too be the bad part of these.
Definitely a good idea
What do you mean by the bad part of these?
@@NA-rr7jlbecause they are so lightweight they rely on speed to do damage. When they meet a barrier, the speed and therefore the effectiveness drops off drastically. Unlike a bonded hollow point for example, which performs much better through barriers since they are much less reliant on velocity. I still choose to carry ballistic tip bonded hollow point. Best of all worlds for defensive carry
Check out Pilgrim Ammunition it’s what I am carrying in my 380, 9mm and 45 ACP. I also have the Novx in 9mm
I'll take a look. Thanks!
why didnt you shoot squash and jugs with a couple different hollow points for comparison? There is nothing to judge against... anyway thanks and be well :)
I can probably make that happen. Thanks for watching.
@@Spidermonkey2a Cool. subbed and waiting for the notice
Much appreciated
I have used these in my Ruger PC 9 Carbine Rifle on Both Feral Hogs & Coyotes at a distance of 100 yards the 400 Pound Feral Hog was Shot in the head and was killed instantly the coyote was hit in the front shoulder and dropped instantly in his tracks the wound was pure devastation the bullet hit both shoulder bones on a 60-pound Coyote the exit wound was the size of a golf ball. I use these on the job as Nuisance Wild Life Control Operator. as well as culling deer. This futuristic bullet works well and is extremely fast out of the 9mm carbine Rifles 16.5 " Barrel.It hits hard penetrates deep makes a devastating wound channel.
Thats awesome! I guess I never thought to use it for pest control.
@@Spidermonkey2a It would work on armed pests that walk up right on two legs.If it will put down 300-400 pound Wild Boar 🐗 it will put down a human.
Very true
Do some more tests!! I've seen your channel!👍
Thank you, Sir.
Thanks for watching :)
Should one be concerned about over penetration when it comes to these?
I wouldn't be any more concerned than a jhp.
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching
Has anyone ran into any issues with these rounds feeding? I fired some of these with my sig p320and 2 out of 10 rounds didn't feed properly, and I haven't ran into any problems with any other ammo. I think maybe these rounds are slightly shorter than target loads and they may not have been seated in the magazine properly.
Yes, I bought three boxes of this stuff to test and carry, as I was told it was a really good round. I had the same issue, every 3-6 rounds would fail to feed. Started to just shoot the last box at the range, and of course that one ran flawlessly. Can’t say I’d trust my life with it personally compared to other rounds on the market.
I carry a FN509C and had a failure to feed issue to with them. Going to shoot the rest of them off and switch to hornady critical defense.
Only with the crosstrainers (not fluted) slightly cheaper version.
Limp writing it
They absolutely will destroy a center block, fmj may be a little better for similar things but they're a lot harder than you are thinking & with there energy can really penetrate well, as your gel showed.
I believe you have the only gel test on the web & i missed it the first time, maybe it should be in the title. Wish it was clear but i take your word & it done what it should & penetrated well. 120,000rpm is what they claim i believe with the nose design which really does the "magic" or science here, really wish i could see the gel better but i understand; maybe next time you could shine a light behind it & that would help see it better on camera. Its designed to be even more devastating when introduced to the bodily fluids & have a venturi effect, it creates massive pressures & awesome wound cavities & channels, also should not really be effected by heavier winter clothing like most HPs. They claim faster cycling too, 106gr total is really nice especially if you have to carry a lot of ammo like me, after 8 hrs it makes a big difference & at 20 rounds a box for defense im carrying almost 4 boxes.🙄 With 430 ft\lbs of energy its a awesome round that is sure not to disappoint. Hopefully soon ill get to test on some critter or maybe a deer, sometimes ya know may not be totally dead & ill put a round directly in the heart.
Anyways good testing i enjoyed it!👍
Very much appreciated! It's definitely a fun round to test out.
They are significantly louder
I bet my life on these rounds they are in my EDC gun. They are the only rounds I have put 3 rounds into the same hole.
Where did you find ammo online????
Midway, optics planet, brownells(rarely has any)
@@Spidermonkey2a I buy my ammo mainly from midway but no luck finding any. I use Nov X in my EDC
Optics planet is where I found that
This was the only self defense ammo I could get in these hard times, would you assume this would go straight through a person and maybe dangerous? Really curious
Honestly I wasn't getting any more penetration with these than I did with regular hollow points. Also I think upon hitting something solid like a bone, these will lose steam fast
Ballistic tests show it at 50 yards going 16 inches in with an almost 2 inch wound channel. 12 inches into gel when tested behind a car windshield. They are lethal
No it should not! It acts different with bodily fluids by design. Also remember gel is less dense than human flesh & is not a 1:1 comparison. 16" in gel may only be 6-8" in a person or less. I've shot deer up close with 9mm gold dot HPs, just to quickly dispatch the animal & a heart shot hitting no bones 2-3' away will not even pass through; that was surprising to me. In gel those will get a whole lot of penetration. A lot of people get way too caught up in gel test & penetration but not understanding its very different, its meant to be a decent consistent testing medium for all testers to have similar results. Although many types of gel are available if two or more are using like materials the tests should be valid. One should always consider whats behind a target, but i wouldn't consider these no worse than any other round & over penetration shouldn't be a problem.
Will be interesting to see these rounds shot out of a sub2000
I had a range session that made me hate this ammo. 9 failures (stovepipe and failure to feed) out of 20 from my H&K P30L.
I haven't put that many rounds through my beretta with this ammo but I was worried about that as well. Sorry to hear that
H&k seems to jam everything ran through it
especially light rounds...maybe your recoil spring would need replacing to have success with these rounds
Got Hornady critical duty loaded in my old high power.
Very nice!
By the way it’s not a claim it’s physics it’s called the Ventura effect or something like that
Same way carburetor’s work
Thanks for watching
Perhaps I'm gestimating incorrectly, but to my eyes, the NOVX over-penetrated per the FBI's 12-18" range, although it might have been less if it had to pass through the required 4 layers of clothing that weren't there. I'm now packing Underwood's fluted solid coper Xtreme Defenders, as to which there have been ample tests of it's exceptional performance. From the shape of the NOVX bullets, I'm guessing that the Underwood XD's were their inspiration, but they're charging so much more per round, one would think they must be so much better--which I haven't seen evidence of yet.
looks like expensive junk
Decently priced..... buy still in the air on the junk part