Pretending I Endorse Your Product Is Fraud - WAN Show August 4, 2023
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Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119):
0:00 Chapters
0:48 Intro
1:37 Topic #1 - Baldur's Gate 3 released ft. FP poll
3:18 Second highest concurrent players on Steam
4:38 FP poll results, past RPG experiences ft. Star Wars
18:41 Baldur's Gate 3's success, movie ratings, upcoming games
20:51 Topic #2 - Anker's eufy refuses removing Linus's face
22:28 X/Tweet of Linus's quote, Luke's points
24:50 A Chinese company V.S. an American site
25:51 Merch Messages #1
27:08 Has Linus seen the Fly Me To The Moon AI cover?
28:48 Wisdom on why standardization fails/succeeds in tech?
33:07 University education's importance for getting into the tech industry?
38:16 FP's comment on parents, work ethics
39:12 Topic #3 - Twitch changes gambling restrictions
39:56 Twitch prohibits sponsorships, recalling past WAN Show
40:52 Valve's C&D, gambling is bannable, Valve directly profits
41:48 CS:GO knives, Steam users money spent on gambling
43:51 $15M blue gem knife offer, recalling Jack Dorsey's first tweet
45:10 Discussing gambling, xQc's "react" content
49:53 LMG's react channel, "who owns my react content?" Fair Use
1:07:30 Anker removes Linus after WAN Show call out
1:08:24 Sponsor - Squarespace ft. Dennis spots
1:08:31 Sponsor - Backblaze
1:10:45 Sponsor - Vessi
1:11:31 Giveaway - Asetek x Blue Horse Studios LTX 2023
1:11:50 Anker did NOT remove Linus from sites
1:13:33 Linus on "recruiting" bug checking through the community
1:34:02 Luke opens a creator's gift for Linus
1:37:38 Linus aggressively gifts the gift to Dan
1:39:20 Luke opens more gifts, thanking Rodd, Linus's unpredictability
1:46:14 Luke trolls everyone ft. Topic #4 - U.S. Government's NDAA
1:47:36 Linus mutes Luke, LTTStore's new RGB shirt
1:49:03 Indoor hoodie back in stock
1:50:35 NSA expresses concerns, selling/buying information
1:53:12 Merch Messages #2
1:53:24 Was Linus nervous during LTX 2023 WAN Show?
1:56:37 How has Luke handled difficult personalities as CTO?
2:00:21 Was LTX 2023 as successful as you hoped?
2:15:04 Dan offers ice cream, Luke recalls fruit roll ups & ice cream
2:17:35 Trying out fruit roll ups ice cream combo
2:19:50 Topic #5 - Labs' Tim response causes controversy
2:35:08 Topic #6 - Xbox's repairable controllers parts
2:38:16 Topic #7 - China's limits on childrens' web access
2:39:26 Topic #8 - DMUG's review on LTT's backpack
2:40:46 X redirects to Twitter now, Apple allows rename
2:42:12 Topic #9 - Linus reacts to Ludwig's reaction to Linus
2:44:22 Linus's game choices to go against Ludwig
2:58:03 Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark
2:59:19 Would Luke make a self-made recipe book?
3:01:10 How would Direct Storage change GPU architecture?
3:02:16 Thoughts on Microsoft pushing ARM adaption?
3:03:18 Luke Goes Places new series idea
3:05:57 Linus's review with his current monitor
3:06:50 Does Luke push back on Linus's unrealistic requests?
3:08:57 Insights on how LMG approaches creating products
3:11:18 Does LMG plan to make videos on IT struggles & practices?
3:12:05 The SNES game would Linus play for the rest of his life?
3:13:35 Weird areas of IT you want to learn more about?
3:15:28 Would a female applying to a job with a fake male name be a deal breaker for you?
3:18:05 Has Luke tried the other Star Wars systems?
3:19:12 Game companies that do old legacy games right?
3:21:09 What are some of your favorite small victories?
3:24:03 Is Yvonne getting Anker stuff a Linus V.S. LMG thing?
3:24:54 Why do two people call each other, they mark themselves unavailable?
3:26:20 Would you be more open to free shipping with better margins?
3:27:24 Coolest thing you had to sign on LTX 2023?
3:28:32 Which challenge stands out as your favorite?
3:32:12 Games you're fond of released before you were born that take you back?
3:33:16 Would the new gen billionaires have super gaming systems?
3:34:09 Precision screwdriver ETA?
3:34:29 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Linus was hit by Dan so many times, he finally had to return to sender.
-Timestamps-
[0:00] *Chapters.*
[0:48] *Intro.*
[1:37] *Topic #1: Baldur's Gate 3 released ft. FP poll.*
> 3:18 Second highest concurrent players on Steam.
> 4:38 FP poll results, past RPG experiences ft. Star Wars.
> 18:41 Baldur's Gate 3's success, movie ratings, upcoming games.
[20:51] *Topic #2: Anker's eufy refuses removing Linus's face.*
> 22:28 X/Tweet of Linus's quote, Luke's points.
> 24:50 A Chinese company V.S. an American site.
[25:51] *Merch Messages #1.*
> 27:08 Has Linus seen the Fly Me To The Moon AI cover?
> 28:48 Wisdom on why standardization fails/succeeds in tech?
> 33:07 University education's importance for getting into tech industry?
> 38:16 FP's comment on parents, work ethics.
[39:12] *Topic #3: Twitch changes gambling restrictions.*
> 39:56 Twitch prohibits sponsorships, recalling past WAN Show.
> 40:52 Valve's C&D, gambling is bannable, Valve directly profits.
> 41:48 CS:GO knives, Steam users money spent on gambling.
> 43:51 $1.5M blue gem knife offer, recalling Jack Dorsey's first tweet.
> 45:10 Discussing gambling, xQc's "react" content.
> 49:53 LMG's react channel, "who owns my react content?" Fair Use.
[1:07:30] *Anker removes Linus after WAN Show call out.*
[1:08:24] *Sponsors ft. Dennis spots.*
> 1:08:31 Squarespace.
> 1:09:21 Backblaze.
> 1:10:45 Vessi.
> 1:11:31 Asetek x Blue Horse Studios LTX 2023 giveaway.
[1:11:50] *Anker did NOT remove Linus from sites.*
[1:13:33] *Linus on "recruiting" bug checking through the community.*
[1:34:02] *Luke opens a creator's gift for Linus.*
> 1:37:38 Linus aggressively gifts the gift to Dan.
> 1:39:20 Luke opens more gifts, thanking Rodd, Linus's unpredictability.
[1:46:14] *Luke trolls everyone ft. Topic #4: U.S. Government's NDAA.*
[1:47:36] *Linus mutes Luke, LTTStore's new RGB shirt.*
> 1:49:03 Indoor hoodie back in stock.
[Cont.] *Topic #4: U.s. Government's NDAA.*
> 1:50:35 NSA expresses concerns, selling/buying information.
[1:53:12] *Merch Messages #2.*
> 1:53:24 Was Linus nervous during LTX 2023 WAN Show?
> 1:56:37 How has Luke handled difficult personalities as CTO?
> 2:00:21 Was LTX 2023 as successful as you hoped?
> 2:15:04 Dan offers ice cream, Luke recalls fruit roll ups & ice cream.
> 2:17:35 Trying out fruit roll ups ice cream combo.
[2:19:50] *Topic #5: Labs' Tim response causes controversy.*
[2:35:08] *Topic #6: Xbox's repairable controllers parts.*
[2:38:16] *Topic #7: China's limits on childrens' web access.*
[2:39:26] *Topic #8: DMUG's review on LTT's backpack.*
> 2:40:46 X redirects to Twitter now, Apple allows rename.
[2:42:12] *Topic #9: Linus reacts to Ludwig's reaction to Linus.*
> 2:44:22 Linus's game choices to go against Ludwig.
[2:58:03] *Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark.*
> 2:59:19 Would Luke make self-made recipes book?
> 3:01:10 How would Direct Storage change GPU architecture?
> 3:02:16 Thoughts on Microsoft pushing ARM adaption?
> 3:03:18 Luke Goes Places new series idea.
> 3:05:57 Linus's review with his current monitor.
> 3:06:50 Does Luke push back on Linus's unrealistic requests?
> 3:08:57 Insights on how LMG approaches creating products.
> 3:11:18 Does LMG plan to make videos on IT struggles & practices?
> 3:12:05 The SNES game would Linus play for the rest of his life?
> 3:13:35 Weird areas of IT you want to learn more about?
> 3:15:28 Would a female applying to a job with a fake male name be a deal breaker for you?
> 3:18:05 Has Luke tried the other Star Wars systems?
> 3:19:12 Game companies that do old legacy games right?
> 3:21:09 What are some of your favorite small victories?
> 3:24:03 Is Yvonne getting Anker stuff a Linus V.S. LMG thing?
> 3:24:54 Why do two people call each other, they mark themselves unavailable?
> 3:26:20 Would you be more open to free shipping with better margins?
> 3:27:24 Coolest thing you had to sign on LTX 2023?
> 3:28:32 Which challenge stands out as your favorite?
> 3:32:12 Games you're fond of released before you were born that take you back?
> 3:33:16 Would the new gen billionaires have super gaming systems?
> 3:34:09 Precision screwdriver ETA?
[3:34:29] *Outro.*
Timestamp guy hype
The legend we need!
My hero ❤️
i don’t even start watching without these. thnx.
Now I can watch! Thanks!
It would be so funny if for april fools next year; linus sits on the right side of the screen and luke sits on the left side and they pretend like nothing is wrong
Then I'd watch it via a mirror...
sadly, april fools does not land on a friday next year
The next time april fools falls on a Friday would be in 2033
@@moki5796 i can wait
@@moki57962028 it’s a saturday. So in theory if they’re late enough… 😃
2:33:58 "It's super clear that not everyone in the creator space handled that....super professionally". Uh yeah, **you** handled the situation extremely unprofessionally and that created the situation in the first place. To then criticize how it was covered as "unprofessional" is absurd.
@@hyivittu8547 I can't wait to see how this goes down, reminds me of Biggie Smalls VS 2PAC
Linus: "My company is valued at $100 million."
Also Linus: "I can't afford to spend $500 to retest."
The reason he's worth $100 million is because he doesn't just throw money away. It's obvious that you're broke and still live at home, which is why you don't understand that concept.
@@danieldevito6380that's like making a car reviewing video and buying the wrong fuel
these comments are all over its hilarious lmao.
And I love every bit of it@@davidandrew5053
@@danieldevito6380 Not sure why you had to add in your life situation? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The problem isn't that gambling exists and is out there. The problem is that gambling exist, is out there, and is being allowed to masquerade as something other than gambling.
Firstly the masquerading and secondly the highly insufficient care offers (self ban, community care, mental health services)
Prohibition intensifies drugs (including speeding up gambling) and the secrecy makes it more difficult to build community resources.
I don't miss access to much currently illegal things (including all online gambling in my state/most of the country) but it's hard to see interventions (proven effective) also missing
it's so bad. Lootboxes just do whatever they want but Gamefreak removed the Casino games from Let's go Eevee & Pikachu to not get Age restricted.
I learned that Gambling is organized by the bad Guys in Pokemon Red when I was a little kid. What gets Regulated? A remastered Pokemon. Obviously not Gems such as fifa.
No, I think gambling on it's own is already a huuuge issue and it's being made worse by being allowed to masquerade.
I think you should have to go to a building a ways out of town to trade csgo skins, not joking
@@PanoptesDreams sorry, but no!
Modern gambling exploits these instincts, but it is not the same.
That's like saying fast food is healthy, because humans have eaten for as long as we exist.
Timestamp guy, we need you
When the world needed him most, he vanished
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TIMESTAMPS
well, gonna have to watch the whole thing then :)
Man of the timely stamps, we summon thee!
How long does it take him usually
1:46:54 - the fact the audio doesn't clip, and still sounds good is a testament to Dan setting up the show. Compression is on point.
it's super easy to
do.
@@jlllx @AarPlays Is it just a noise ceiling? I feel like there's more to it but not sure
Well, except for at 1:09:30 when the audio of Linus freaking out and failing to use the fire extinguisher is so loud you can't hear the ad he's reading.
@@Studio23Media that seems to be more of an issue of audio balance/mixing than it is individual audio settings
That's a brickwall limiter if I've ever heard one.
I don't think I've ever seen such an amazingly chaotic and perfect sponsor segment as this one for backblaze, with linus just trying to talk through it and the videos just keeping on shouting through it, really conveys the stress and helplessness of going through a storage crisis
I may not go with Backblaze (they don't have a Linux client), but it absolutely convinced me that I need to start sorting out my backup solutions
It really conveys the stress of having your channel's credibility crumble in front of your eyes and you don't have the processes in place to stop it.
Linus will be making a fuss over the "Trust me bro" incident when he's in a nursing home 😂
Certain types of people will not ever live down being called out, despite calling other out. Worse are types of people who go by "ryles for thee no for me", and Linus very much is that. He tries to fight it, which is good, but he thinks he won and that is very bad. If there was some other company doing that, Linus would screen to the mic "I do not know you bro! No, I will not trust you, we do not know each other, you are a company I'm customer. Stop f**king around"
But it wasn't other company. It was his. And he cannot hold that perspective.
"who cares? it was a year ago, I'm human and make mistakes, move on, get over it, please stop bringing back my past mistakes" ~Linus official response
19:40 I agree with the take on the state of Hollywood. The whole “no one goes to the movie theaters anymore” seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Traditional studios see success of Netflix -> traditional studios decide they want to create their own Netflix clone to make sure they don’t miss out -> Studios start pumping out [low quality] productions at record pace to fill their streaming service -> Studios are flabbergasted why people don’t want to see [low-quality] movies in theaters -> Studios declare movie theaters dead. Instead of pumping out sequels like Fast and Furious 11 just to have them unceremoniously dumped on their fledgling streaming service. Maybe focus on original storytelling and high quality filmmaking and I’ll be happy to spend a night at the movie theater. Oppenheimer was great, BTW.
They went for the easy money and not trying the new IP.
Oppenheimer was packed. Sound of freedom was packed. Avengers end game was packed. If they make quality movies the theaters have people shoulder to shoulder.
It's felt like this for a long time, most movies have been boring and feature incredibly overused tropes. When I went to see Oppenheimer, all of the ads felt like movies I've already seen but with different actors. Why can't movie directors make two different feeling movies? Why can't we have engaging storytelling anymore?
Most movie directors seem to follow a template that makes their story incredibly predictable, which is fine for an action movie if you're 12 years old and like explosions, but it's horrible for something like a detective movie such as the knives out movies. Side note: why are they so highly rated again? I could roughly guess the plot from the beginning, as they're just following the same storytelling template as the last jedi.
Using a template once can make the story interesting, using the same one three times in a row means you're creatively bankrupt. Sure, it's not the typical Hollywood template, but if you make it your brand as a director then you're less of a creative dude and more like an uncreative hipster, one who doesn't do the same thing as everyone else but who still does the same things as himself.
Exactly. Also these darn rereleases everywhere. Just make original movies, jesus christ man. I can guarantee you a well made new disney animation would make millions in seconds instead of these garbage real live remakes that novody wants or needs.
Across the Spideverse as well that movie felt like such a breath of fresh air
The live on stage WAN show was fun for a change, but I prefer the studio version for most weeks.
Yeah there was a lot of background noise and things like clapping just took a bit of time. Doesn't feel like a podcast anymore.
Yeah sometimes a change every ones in a while is good
They should just make it a thing once or twice a year and call it the LAN show 😂
100% agree. I had no chance this year to go. It must have been a blast in person. 😀😀
I still want to know, can the new CEO fire Colton and if so how often?
Every single person at LMG has the power to fire Colton. On the employee conduct brochure, the first line specifically says: If you see Colton in the building, ask if he is fired. If no, fire him. If yes, rehire and then fire him. (Edited cuz I'm an idiot)
@@che-weihsieh975you got that backwards 😂
@@xp8969 ah shit.
1:46:14 After YEARS of Linus not letting Luke talk Luke FINALLY gets his revenge!
Imagine getting annoyed that one of your LTT store prototypes leaked into the community right after you AUCTIONED off somebody else's prototype.
The TMB disaster never ends. Linus digging deeper and depper... At this point it is just hilarious
Don't know how he was digging himself deeper in this one? Honestly this point I don't even know how people still call it a controversy, actually no I do know the people who call it a controversy. You just see Linus as a failure and not acknowledge the fact that as far as I can tell, he runs one of the biggest media companies on TH-cam
Anker needs a cease and desist. I figure they are not allowed to use your likeness and whatever anymore.
If they paid for that sponsorship video, for which they are pulling the content from, and not misrepresenting its content, I don’t see how they are wrong legally speaking. There would have to be some type of specific wording added in case of a break up.
They are quotting him. They dont need linuses approoval to quote something he said
@@t0biascze644They probably don't own the images they are using, and that could open them to legal action.
@@carloscervantes836 But they are misrepresenting. That is the whole issue.
For him to get pissy that they’re quoting his public views on their good products is completely wrong. There’s only 2 answers here: Linus made a public comment and Anker can quote it or Linus made up a comment because Anker paid him, they can still use it but he has 0 credibility when reviewing anything ever again
Longer WAN shows with more chaos! This is the way.
Skittles, Fruit Rollups, and gummy worms becoming jaw-breakers 👍
Next LTX needs a Smart Line system. So people can enjoy more walking around, doing stuff, chilling and engaging than waiting on the line hoping to be lucky enough to have a good conversation with the person in front or behind you for one hour.
QR Queue? (tho QR has it own kind of jeopardy like everything...)
maybe a AMP LTX web-app? you don't need a full app but if the convention visitors save it, it works like one... also local version of the LMG store...
Are you talking about virtual tickets? I was thinking the same thing, and maybe in the future you could choose the order of the things you really want to do to the ones you could skip.
I dread the day that wan show ends, I look forward to this show every week. It’s kinda been my “comfort show” the last few years. Love Y’all
It will never end, sir
the end of wan show is a long long way off, so don't panic. it drives a ton of merch sales, after all. it'd be clown behavior to kill it anytime soon.
@@yousillyenglishknnniigit8205are u sure about that
I like how right after this comment the wan show is skipped
@@yousillyenglishknnniigit8205 Famous last words.
We're back in the league of 3-hour Wan shows.
... in the middle of the night.
😅
I love it. I save it for work on Mondays.
I laught my ass off every time Linus goes to say something and Luke either looks at him like "don't do say it, don't say it, don't say it" or look around the room like "how the hell do i stop this guy!!!!"
You guys are awesome! Thanks.
Wasn’t a huge fan of the LTX WAN show audio quality but you guys did AMAZING making the people at home feel like we were at the show! Felt all the energy from you guys
About the lines with creators, one of the best one I did, it was "forbidden" to take photos/selfies, someone was there to take the photos for everyone and then, they were uploaded on the creator's website.
No time wasted for people to take out their phone, search the camera app and so on, instead, guaranteed quality photos (they took at least 3 photos with everyone)
Linus throwing a hissyfit about being called out while also having done the same in the past lol
Where is the timestamp guy? And we love you. ❤
I believe most of you coming to this video currently are looking for 2:33:25
Linus had just finished talking about how he did not agree with how Tim addressed the testing of LTT Labs in comparison to other fellow tech youtubers.
Linus had then further gone on to saying how he is not a fan of community "competitiveness" to other tech youtubers, (i.e. being a Gamers Nexus stan only, or a JayzTwoCents stan only) saying that they are all on the same team, the learn from one another and are there to support one another. Different comments in the live chat (not sure if he was looking at TH-cam, Twitch or Floatplane) we're mentioning in general "What about the "Trust me bro" situation?" in reference to Steve from Gamer's Nexus not support their original stance on a "no warranty, just trust me bro" towards their new upcoming backpack. Linus then begins addressing those comments in the live chat starting at this time stamp above, dismissing any sort of "drama" that may start from such comments.
And yet here we are... :)
PS: Since that time, Linus walked backed his stance and comments toward the "trust me bro" incident after major community backlash, and they now have warranties on such products, including that backpack.
Thanks
Also note that tiny the part of this section used in the GN video is edited to cut what Linus actually said in half (literally mid-sentence) - and misrepresents what he was saying.
Linus has been double talking for years, clearly he appeals to his audience and weighs heavily on his abundantly clearly fake 'nice guy' image. He then goes on to talk about an "Us v. Them attitude thats brewing right now" Linus are you that concieted as to not remember that you started the idea of "healthy competition" in the space when you introduced Labs? Linus initiated it then failed and then lied about the circumstances, repeatedly. I've watched ltt for almost as long as it has been around my children now watch his videos but ultimately we don't purchase or disregard a product we are interested in based on ltt recommendations. If he talks about a product that catches our attention we go search the manufacturer for product specification and then decide, and if it is a benchmark we go to GN for as close to real world results in 1 concise location. If we are actually interested in purchasing the processor or card we look at multiple comparisons. Labs is looking more and more like a money pit that wasn't needed, should've concentrated on news, reviewing products correctly and all the great entertainment value projects from the past. Basically stay in your lane how much food do you really need to survive anyway. Cheers for healthy competition in the tech review space! 👍
48:35 Funnily enough, xQc was incredibly close to testing the fair use reaction content argument in court 2 years ago when he reacted to the Olympic Games on stream and his stream was taken down and he received a temp ban from Twitch for it. xQc's response to that was that he was going to take the Olympic Games to court as it was fair use BUT he ended up not going through with it (because OBVIOUSLY he would've lost the case)
Would have loved to see his court defense...
> he ended up not going through with it
This is literally false - he did counter claim the DMCA request (allowing him to get unbanned mere hours later on twitch instead of two days) and there are two responses to a counter-claim - to sue you (which he was anticipating) or to ignore it - and they ignored it, and it's like he was never DMCA'd in the first place, so your tongue-in-cheek "he chickened out because obviously he would've lost" does not hold.
Although I agree that it's stupidity and not bravery lol.
OTOH he has tons of money (even then) for lawyers and shit so it'd have been a spectacle (which, again, he was kind of anticipated it to be)
@@necauqua I never said that he did or did not counter claim the DMCA request as it wasn't necessary information - I said he ended up not going through with taking them to court... (a thing he had stated on camera that he was going to do).
Also I never said anything about that he "chickened out".
What even is the point that you're making?
@@AlpakaWhacker you said "ended up not going through with it" with a diminishing tone implying he bragged that he was going to, but then didn't - "chickened out" as I said - and it was a very simple and obvious connotation, stop playing dumb and pretending you didn't mean that, this is so annoying.
How is counter-claim not a necessary information when it's literally the free cause for them to sue him that he just handed out?..
And no, he did not state that he'll take them to court on camera - so.. also stop lying?.
I had to search and watch a few clips to make sure - he only said that he counter claimed and at their will they could sue him in response and it "could get crazy and cost millions, but it's a cool move".
"My point" was that he made his decision to get sued (by counter-claiming), the ball was in their park to do so, and he did not change the decision last minute (like you implied) - it was their decision to not sue him and let that DMCA claim get lifted 🤷
I'm not even defending him specifically, not that big of a fan to just deny facts or whatever, and that situation is indeed super-dumb - I'm just annoyed at you for (and this sounds fucking stupid but that's just what you did) spreading misinformation (at least according to my own faulty memory) lol
hey you've just actually read through yet another one of my pointless essays, you can buy yourself a cookie now 🎉
Sadly i have to agree with Gamers Nexus on this and Ltt needed to be called out for it. Pushing quantity over quality is a risk in every business and more so in this one. The testing of a product on a video card it was no designed for was wrong regardless of the results and shows that things have gotten of the rails abit. Yes the product could still do a bad job with the 3090 and be a waste of money but at least standards on you end remained as they should. Yes Steve is your friend but if your friends don't warn you when it looks like you making a mistake then who going to before its too late? Sometimes we need to step back and we compromise our standards for the sake of time and money? It sure looks like to me and though i agree that product would likely been a waste either way i still would have done it the right way.
I agree, LTT has became garbage. Never gonna watch videos for an actual review from them again. They lost all of my respect.
It was always just an entertaining show for me, I took very little of what they said as some truth like I do GN
I've noticed inaccuracies over the years and this has made me tell friends and inexperienced people for "Well, LTT is more quantity over quality," and to take their figures with a grain of salt. And to definitely not take it as gospel. I've actually defended LMG in conversation against my director at work who says, "Linus is a F***ing idiot," (to be fair, my director's a bonafide polymath who has an allergic reaction to BS so I think he got a string of bad videos and it turned him off forever.)
So GN isn't the only one to have noticed this issue with accuracy; and I'm annoyed that Linus doesn't own the fact. Well, I mean, Linus talks about how they're not perfect, so I guess that's a way of showing /some/ humility. But buddy, you gotta just own the fact that you're trading quality for quantity. It's just a thing that happens. And it sucks because the algo knows ONLY quantity, and the Latest Thing. It's not like going to stop watching LMG content, but it makes me trust it ... well, even less than I already did. How do I put it... LMG is my filler content? When there's nothing else, I watch it, because it's the most plentiful. It's like finding a McDonald's. I'm hungry, but I don't wanna put in effort. There's a McDonalds on every corner, but I might have to look longer or wait to have a better burger. So in this way, LMG is like McDonalds. There's a lot of them everywhere. It'll keep you from going hungry. But a strict diet of McDonalds isn't the healthiest.
And another thing, it's not like I don't think the hearts in the wrong place all the time. LMG puts a lot of right to repair stuff in people's faces which is really good. But because I really REALLY want LMG to be able to build all these cool testing facilities. That way, maybe some day, partner with manufacturers to slap a certified sticker on stuff so I KNOW it's not garbage. That's what I want, and I think that's what LMG wants, judging by their past content. But good testing TAKES TIME, algo be damned. Good data is the unfashionable part of this job, But it's the part that actually matters.
Same here. I stopped watching LInus and their channels a while back because their quality just dipped too much. What made it even more annoying was when it became clear they were adding to their video workload by jumping on trends (like cheap handheld emulation consoles) instead of devoting that time and manpower to making fewer but better quality videos. Stayed subscribed incase they got back to being good again. This BS got me to unsubscribe.
["The GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Founders Edition design clocks in with a GPU temperature of 73.6c and Hot Spot temp of 81.9c" - osgamers]. A comment posted by LTT states that with a 4090 (non supported) cooler achieved a temp of 87c so a reduction of 20c that would be a massive improvement in comparison to the less hungry 3090ti however, I understand where Linus was coming from, it's very pricey for any kind of water cooling block so the outcome would've been the same.
Regarding having community members pre-reviewing videos: don't forget confidentiality otherwise literally every script may be leaked online. Also, how do you vet community contributors to let them into the system: people who "know" probably don't have the time do contribute more than a one-off when watching an already published video and people who have all the time may not have the expertise.
All i can say is "best of luck" with this very difficult issue!
Seconding all of this. Fact checking is not a very practical thing to crowd-source. Mostly anyone who's any good at it will already have other commitments and will need to be paid a decent wage if they're going to set aside the time. If the plan is to pay something paltry like 50 cents per error, I don't think LTT is going to get the results they're imagining.
I could see fans of the channel with expertise and a little time to spare being willing to chip in for a nominal rate, and _maybe_, even with all the extra community management and accounting work that would entail, that might still work out cheaper than just hiring more or more experienced staff for proofing content. But I really don't think the 50 cent idea has any chance of working out.
Just own the mistakes and errors in production make an actual effort to do better. It's not hard, someone in your PR camp just thinks it is. We'll respect you more for addressing and fixing the problem than denying there is one at all.
What PR camp? This has been handled like the PR department of a child's lemonade stand.
the person in the camp is LINUS which is why it is so hard the main guy has a huge attitude problem.
exactly @@Tests
the guy is super arrogant due to his ego. glad that Gamers Nexus put his feet on the ground.
The new CEO needs to have a “see me in my office” moment regarding this situation if he hasn’t already. Linus just seems to be in the wrong here, which is exactly what “the guy who has a proven track record of being able to manage [linus]” (paraphrased) should be suited to dealing with.
I bet he has & he need to pull away Linus from any PR. We've almost had an Artesian Builds Noah Katz response from Linus.
Likely yes. its not been done with malice or any ill intent but mistakes where made. He also failed to understand Steve was trying to help and if you do something in public your going to get called out in public. I seriously doubt he wanted those comments coming out about Steve and Gn but as Steve pointed out its shows part of the problem. If there was someone there with knowledge reviewing the videos this would have never happened along with the other huge review mistakes. Also if you testing products and spent a lot on money to do so you would want to test things properly so people can trust your reviews and not with hardware it wasn't designed for. Lots of mistakes and the toon deaf response was the biggest.
Linus has graduated from dropping things to throwing things at employees
SOON HE WILL THROW EMPLOYEES
ah yes. my weekly routine of watching a 3+ conversion between my favorite elderly couple
About the LTX. The really interesting part that made me want to be there from the videos was the keyboard switches laid out, the reaction stuff, the HDR, the high Hz monitors - since many of these things are really about feel and the value you get vs paying just the most for the best. And having at all at one place is really cool and it only got better with all the surrounding things.
Interactivity is really the great gem of an idea for the event.
That's a really pathetic response, Linus and you know it. You mis-stepped on the "Trust me Bro" thing and being incredibly churlish to your our sponsors when they simply wanted their company name pronounced correctly?
The Labs controversy seems like such a non-issue
'cause it is
I was interested to see an actual controversy.
I also do not see the damage it even hypothetically bring, but it's good that Linus talked about it anyway
My favourite quote from this ordeal was Linus' "Tim wasn't hired as a PR."
Which completely sums up this whole thing. That was just Tim's opinion as an engineer.
@chutcentral I didn't see it as discipline on WAN. I saw a leader explaining to a wider audience what happened. But obviously, I'm not Tim, so his opinion is really the only one that matters on the subject.
Lmfao@@chutcentralyou got a wild imagination bro, unfortunately for your credibility though this video shows that what you said didn't happen
This is definitely one of the most WAN Show of all time
Yes, it's very much a WAN show, one of the many ones that I have watched.
May I ask why ?
@@Aybex97 Tons of topics had been covered
I would even say that this is absolutely one of the WAN shows of all time
Timestamps guy please show up!
"ran out of spell slots, guess I'll die." A timeless tradition.
im a low budget gamer and im really sad for what is going on but i dont want to be misinformed about something, i dont have so much money to buy. i really like you guys. ive been a avid watcher since im a highschool student.... you guys help me to budget my rig... slowdown guys i can watch ltt videos twice a week. dont rush. i love you guys
That's why you do research and check multiple sources
They really should pay someone to do the timestamps as soon as the show starts.
This is what got me to stop watching tonight, but then I came back to reply this to you.
Right. This is why I'll only watch last week's show today.
I used to not need them as i'd just watch the whole show. Now timestamps are mandatory as i'll be skipping anything that doesn't interest me (including most of merch messaged even if there are some gems in there). The show is just so long now it's unwatchable.
Maybe that'd be an incentive to do it on time every midnight between 2 am-9 am. For now though, I'm prioritizing sleeping and taking care of my health above voluntary work. Thanks for being patient, a bit until timestamps are posted. :)
Yep! LTT should pay someone to timestamp. They make enough during the show, and nobody should do it for free, no matter how much they love LTT
This is what I think is going through Anker’s head- “yes people that watch Linus on the WAN show will know about the bad blood, but most people that recognize his face on the website won’t know about that, so we keep it up.”
If it was new content, that'd be one thing.
It's very easy for whoever got Linus's remove this to have not got anything actionable to the content teams queue or it's just not ever going to make the sprint low priority and will go only when the page(s) is gone.
Linus: Why am I the sub?
Luke: that's normal
😂😂
Linus vs Ludwig Scrapyard Wars but they can fully abuse their status as influencers.
1:34:22 Linus giving Luke the present he got so Luke can check it for bombs and Luke being ok with that is a super cute bro moment
Linus: Take it from an experienced person in the "controversies" because outsiders try to foster a toxic work environment. And they love to publish stuff that was off the record. Tim is enthusiastic, and he likes working in the industry. He just got a lesson that he will always remember. I was there once, I stood in front of the board to explain what had happened. Why one of my staff had overstepped their boundaries and our competition was all too happy to rake us over the coals. In the end we all NEED to learn, to forgive, to "shake it off".
no one gives a crap about hardware unboxed
@@Freestyle80 you couldn't be more wrong, Hardware Unboxed does very good work, their my go to for monitor reviews, and I often go back to their GPU reviews due to how they provide an overall average of performance compared to a similarly price GPU
This D&D and starwars discussion is the first time since WAN show started that I actually skipped ahead.. damn guys.
Really happy for Larian, they deserve it.
Been lucky enough to interact with some of their team members, very talented and passionate dev team. Really happy to see them do so well for themselves :D
I guess Anker is laughing at you for how you railed them for this, but when presented with another issue you’ve played their card and it’s backfiring so much.
Timestamps guy we need you.
Jesus Christ watching Linus try to remember the Star wars game from his memory was so infuriating. "I don't know if this is familiar!" Lol
Linus figuring out he knows his gaming buddy Joe in real life is hilarious😂
Man i just wanted to say how much I appreciate the WAN show, I love it so much. Have a nice day and see you next week
The interesting thing about the copyright laws, at least when it came to downloading and distributing music, is that you could claim bankruptcy and get out of it (in the USA).
So the other aspect of this copyright issue is that you need to balance the penalty around how much could damage the person and how much would be too much for them to just tap out of dealing with.
One of the greatest issues with our making allowances for people to engage in clever obfuscation and/or lying in general society is that the subsequent search for truth wastes so much of society's energy and effort.. it inevitably leads to many people becoming too tired to care.. making things worse.
It is perfectly legal for me to pretend that Tony Shalhoub endorses my imaginary product. Its antonio scarpacci's taxi driver hand cream.
Who else doesn't watch until timestamps appear?
Darkviper did really punch a bee’s nest, what a great guy
Is that the GTA6 voice actor?
That data storage ad edit was pure genious! 😂
Anker was banned from Amazon Germany a few years ago, because they were buying 5-star reviews.
Timestamp guy is the hero we don't deserve, but still get, and appreciate very much.
Artesian Builds is waving
Just gonna say in the thumbnail, linus looks like a slightly constipated priest giving benediction 😂
We need more coverage on the Google DRM issue that was barely covered last WAN show please.
Couldnt really hear the ad read for back blaze because of the audio from the clips being shown, but good show guys!
Basically they rock lol - LS
They actually do rock, if you are looking for the best HDD brand and model, they sure have that data about the failure rates of each.. ❤❤
You need a static camera for the selfie line .... like a theme park sort of system. you take the photo then collect your photo after, online, via the app , QR code or whatever. You could get through many selfies that way with consistent results.
Watching WAN Show on Saturday.. Was playing Baldur's Gate when it was live. 😂
I can't wrap my head around the fact Linus invests tons of money in the lab to have good data on products, and yet to save a buck he doesn't care to release a video knowing its data are bad and should be re-tested.
Linus does have the power to make his album go platinum...
Great show!
I want a gif of Dan being hit with the cooler lol
ITS BEEN LONG IVE NOT LAUGH LIKE THAT TO A WAN SHOW HAHAHAHA
you know what else is fraudulent.... selling someone's prototype
3:30 My friend group all took paid days off for the 3rd-5th. We have been soaking it in through multiple plays (two duos, a 3 man, and a full group of 4). I literally just stopped playing it because I have to be up early tomorrow and I was finally able to pry myself from the game. Can't sleep however, sooooo WAN SHOW TIME BABEEEEEYYY. (For those wondering, played through BG I&II in my younger days because my dad is almost as big a nerd is me. Also a massive Divinity fan. Been playing D&D since 03, and Pathfinder since 2e dropped.)
i have never lost it to sponsor slots so much, LMAO
I definitely saw an ad with you on it yesterday, it was a side shot of you, (Linus) wearing a VR headset lol...
sigh* Can you not report on us when we do something wrong? That's not very nice. We're only a company.
That Billet Labs review was disgusting.
You ever think about the fact that Timestamp guy is like the Avatar, when you needed him most he vanished.
The whole legal talked reminded me of Whistlin’ Diesel lol
"I'm assuing we're the main monitor" haha funny linus
I am happy "react content" topic comes back with more negativity around it, this and "right to repair" are my personal favourites to change in the future, at least now.
Very small changes with massive consequences that are only beneficial for viewers, creators and customers.
I'm just so upset that Xqc is backing out of that debate with Matto
Timestamps guy.....come back
Like all legal issues, when it's comes to Fair Use the only accurate blanket statement is "It Depends".
Lollll the back blaze sponser read was absolute chaos 😂
Knowing Ludwig, he probably will hire someone as an employee to make him eligible for a game, no way he doesn’t do it
Yeah this is just the bro vs series that he does, super excited that linus suggested it because it's perfect for ludwig and will be great content.
One of my favorite streamers spent over 3 hours reacting to a 10 minute announcement video and the audience went nuts. It was one of the most entertaining streams I've watched. However, WarGaming makes it kinda easy since they're always trying to set the new world record for lies per minute.
..who's breaking the bro code. It's in the rulebook, no chit chat in the bathroom. XD
I appreciate fostering collaboration between tech creators. Thank you
The solution to your script review issues could come from software development: When someone implements something, they first put it up for review before merging it into the codebase. Someone senior, which is familiar with the part of the codebase the changes touch, goes through it to make sure it‘s good. It works out well for keeping up quality.
The same could be done for scripts: at every stage you want it reviewed, it‘s assigned to someone else on the writing team that knows about that particular topic. If it‘s a Linux video, assign Emily, for example, to review it.
Now this means the writers spend maybe one day a week cumulatively on review, which means you need a few new writers to cover that, but it seems to me like the most efficient and best quality way to do this.
would it work for the amout of diferent specialetys on display in the content tho?
@@rubenjanssen1672yes
Long ass script up for review? LGTM!
For Baldur's Gate, have you taken in account that this is the summer school break in many European countries and many adults do take most their paid leave at this period ? Even those without kids. (Smarter kidless people take their summer vacation in june or early september.) To the point this is nearly impossible to get a job other than a summer job in August because nearly all the HR staffs are on break.
It’s also still summer break for the US
@@proximiteaSure, but way fewer workers get actual vacation time in the US. 4-6 weeks a year is the minimum standard throughout most of the developed world and they absolutely take that leave.
It's also evening somewhere while it's midday in Canada. So people there can play. :)
Very much this. I have 3 mandatory weeks off during the summer(work for an educational institution, so they need time off to somewhat line up), and still got one more week of this. Probably gonna be filled with a lot of Baldur's gate 3. It has been fricking amazing so far. Very nostalgic as it reminds me of the good old games era.
@@GonePh1shing so yall just sit at home on paid vacation? Sounds pretty lame.
Why does TH-cam purposely make their site inconvenient? I hate the fact that there’s a “play previous” button on the video but it can’t be used to restart the video. It’s greyed out.
"Good Old Dan" Linus didn't call Dan old, he called him GOD 😄
Regarding the video game resurgence, it seems that maybe some publishers might be catching on that consumers have changed and value different things, and we may finally be seeing a shift in the industry to follow the money.
Anker by the way, isn’t even famous in China, Ugreen is. So they kind of relying on the western converges.
You might able to send them a cease and desist, which should made them take it down in the western outlets.
Anker sucks
*Meet & Greet in the bathrooms?*
"Hey Luke! I'm so excited to finally meet you! Whoa! Nice hardware bro!! Would you mind signing mine...?"
One of those merch questions just made me feel so old, there are no commercial video games ever released before I was born LOL
Regarding the benchmark thing: Some people(I'd wager more than one would initially think) install video drivers very infrequently. Having both sets of data is more beneficial than just one, IMO; assuming everything is notated.
I only do it when there's a problem, or a game just released and I need the optimizations.
I don't like fiddling with things when they're working.
That said, i usually watch on mobile and can't see, do they put driver revisions on the graphs? They should if they don't
Sounds like a quality assurance team would be useful. The issue is the time crunch you all have for some of these videos I guess. Lot of microtask websites out there, many around quality assurance and bug tests, so you can look into how they do things. Most suck so tread carefully, but might give you an idea of how to execute some of this if you want to work with the community on it.
Man I watched this and everyone said the labs controversy was a non-issue, this is insane, I mean I'm all for labs being a thing and for it to be better than everyone else, but claiming that your results are better than everyone else's and then just pushing out false results in the actual videos is insane and not good at all for anyone, I cannot believe Linus thinks that's ok
Linus singing old school NV songs is rhe best thing AI ever did xD