Hungary's Orban urges cease-fire on Kyiv visit but is Zelenskyy interested ? | DW News
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- Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has encouraged Ukraine to agree to a cease-fire with Russia, as he made his first visit to the country since Russia's full-scale invasion in February 2022.
Orban is seen as one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's closest allies in the European Union and he has repeatedly tried to slow and block support for Ukraine within the bloc.
The Hungarian leader's visit came after he took over the rotating EU presidency on Monday.
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#orban #ukraine #ukrainewar
As an Hungarian I wish Orban would make peace with the fridge 😣
😂
God bless the Hungarian people - minus Orban
Orban cannot resist invading that refrigerator!
He keeps accusing it of trying to join NATO and then annexing the leftover schnitzel!
@@TobiasC-mg4zk 😂🤣😂
Try get out of it , you’ll feel better 🤢🙈
The day Zelensky wants peace talks Putin will no longer be interested to talk
Maybe Orbon would like to give some of Hungary to Russia.
nato want war machine business .. n greedy zelensky .. rather than playing smartly and staying neutral ..
@@VideoCepruo not like the political prisoners that Putin is sending to the front lines to be canon fodder for.the Wagner group? Mate please what a simple dull mind You have if this is your Best argument.
Brotherland.
Yeah, like all of it and see how his voters like that.
Hungary lost Transcarpathia to the Soviet Union, which Ukraine then eventually inherited. Hungary was forced to accept this, and so she believes Ukraine will need to accept an similar loss now.
As a Hungarian, I would say, Orban should visit Putin to ask ceasefire. Russia, the aggressor attacks Ukraine, Ukraine only defends itself
Orban apparently forgot what it was like for Hungary to live under Kremlin rule for many decades after WW2. The ‘man’ is a disgrace to the European values.
Both sides need to agree to it
It is better to die on your feet and free than to live comfortable as a coward and a slave. Hungarians use to understand that.
😂😂😂 what a 🤡
He should try the famous tea in the Kremlin...
Don’t show him anything important , he will report to Russia!
@80.80 why u people don't understand the broader situation
@@robijorum4113villages. Not cities lol. A few homes. And sheds 😂
For how many dead orcs.
@@monumentaltravel3745 really , you checked the stats or you just talking the talk puccy😂
Ukraine is being destroyed to ground zero - in "broad and brave and democratic" cooperation. You all need to face the truth! Greetings from Hungary.
@@robijorum4113And lost record numbers of soldiers around the Vovchansk. 😂😂😂😂😂 Keep "adding" the Z soldiers... To the ground.
Yep, Ukraine surely needs a JUST peace - Orban just requires a diet.
Peace saves lives. From a comfortable room in your home, it is easy to say that peace is not needed. It is not our family members who die on the battlefield.
@@stomeka Then Putin could merely stop attacking, and the war will be over.
@@Thor.Jorgensen You can say this mostly to USA too.
@@stomeka Who did USA attack?
@@stomekathe US did not invade Ukraine
A ceasefire for Russia to regroup! Get Russians out of Ukraine first then call for a ceasefire.
Regroup Russia is winning, its Ukraine that needs a break lol
Idiotic proposition
get west out of rest of world first
To what extent do you consider "the west" an entity? What kind of preaence in other cointries? @@ayushkumar-bg1xf
No saben más que criticar,Orban está haciendo lo mejor
He is not pro putin ,instead he is the bridge between putin and europe. I think he tried his best to stop the war!
Instead, fly to Moscow and tell your dear friend to end the war and withdraw his troops from Ukraine
If Putin take his troops out of Ukraine so NATOand western can go in 😂😂😂😂 nobody can play with Putin Slava Russia ❤❤❤❤
@filipsuljevic1585 Ukraine is an independent country. Ukraine should decide for itself, not Russia nor NATO . Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@@evinco4084A country that lives at the expense of others cannot be independent.
@@karhutitan1371 that's none of your business. Let them be
His Foreign Minister Mr. Szijjarto has done it personally in 2022 on a wide public, when he attended Russian Energy day. No other Western politicians did it.
Orban is the kind of toad who would have cheered on the soviet tanks as they entered Budapest in 1956
Sad part is he used to be a liberal and anti-russia, Fidesz was a centrist right party with focus on economy, now it's focused on the culture war
Toad - excellent - Shakespeare couldn't paint it better!
On behalf of Toads across this planet I demand an apology and a retraction of that defamation.
He was a different guy during Cold war era. He was against USSR. Something bad happened to him. He is in power for way too long, the same as Putin and this is how it ends up when you cross the line.
Your knowledge of Hungary and pm Orbán limits you to see the reality. Orban's visions are always way before the other politicians'. You will see! His decisions are always thoughtful and well planned.
Why would Zelensky want a ceasefire when Ukraine is winning?
:D
Ukraine winning against one of the strongest nuclear superpower?
You are funny.
What about avoiding the 3rd ww?
@@erdzso7036 I know they can't win but the western media always portrayed Ukr as bound to win
THis man is a snake I wouldn't let him know anything
And you are a troll who doesn’t know anything
@@staceycolangelo8940...more than you.
The ceasefire means Putin's victory and time for Russia to expand its army
someones gotta give and ukraine is not winning
@@gtaraya Russia failed from the beginning with its main intention of taking all of Ukraine. Now Putin will rebuild its army, correct its mistakes and attempt to take all of Ukraine again. And next time he just might win.
No, it would mean that no more Ukrainian civilians would have to die needlessly after forced conscription and 2 weeks of training. Peace would save thousands of lives. Nothing is more important than life, but the psychosis of war makes people forget that.
@@planetguam8475 why insist on looking on russian failure when ukraine is obviously losing? how does your mind work american?
@@stomekaThere will be no peace because of Putin and Russians, peace will not last unless Ukraine can join Nato.
He shouldn’t be allowed in the country of Ukraine.
perhaps in Japan he should be allowed to preach to the Japanese leaders about the End of Europe empire.
Victor Orban is legal president of Hungary - after 21 May 2o24 Zelensky is not legal president of Ukraine by Ukraine Constitution, which clearly states that in case of martial law Speaker of Verkhovna Rada takes presidential position by duty until election is held - any document Zelensky signed after that is not legally valid
( and you shouldn't be allowed on internet to make silly comments : )
@@elbibwen3019 Who cares if Orban is the legal president or who is the president of Ukraine. Enemies should not be allowed in Ukraine.
@@UnitedBRICKS Relevance to Russia attacking a sovereign country and then having an enemy country’s leader visit?
Ukraine needs a just peace? I’m a young European, 23 years old. The economic situation you’re creating is destroying my 20s and possibly my entire life. Is that JUST? HA?
3:35 facts...
Stop Putin.
A bad guy in the house please don't show him anything ..
Show what? the rampant spread of corruption? It's not a state secret for anyone.
Many chances to end the war.
Wrong country to urge cease-fire.
Should have just insulted Orban and asked if he's there on the behave of NATO or Russia
He is on the behalf of peace
Is NATO about to win in Ukraine? 🤣🤩🤣
Of course he is on behalf of nato . And he is enemy against Russia
3:15 good point
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Just ask your Boss Pootin to leave Ukraine and war will stop ...... 😂
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What a great idea.
After years we found the solution.
Thank you
Is DW capable of reporting without labeling?
No, and you are "Far Right" for noticing...
😂😂
@@trevorsutherland5263 lol
No, and tbf is not their job neither, they have an editorial line, and we may not like it but every news company have one, and in this case the context is clear Orban is a corrupt bully who is a Wannabe despot.
@@rene280195wanna Napoleon, sturrberg. Needed serious clowns for laughter 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Already tried a ceasefire. The Minsk agreements. Russia ignored it.
Russia!? LMFAO
@@trqster How else was Putin going to annex more territory otherwise?
LFMAO. Do you even get news? Zelensky should start negotiating now. Or he'll lose more territory. More men, more humiliation. There is no magic weapon to defeat Russia. Period!
It wasn't a waste of time, it allowed Ukraine to be armed. if they didn't send more blame to them
@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Zelensky should start negotiating now. Or he'll lose more territory. More men, more humiliation. There is no magic weapon to defeat Russia. Period!
That is a bit rich. Did I miss Orban's trip to Putin where he suggested a cease fire to the Russian dictator?
Yes, actually you did!
Putin was democratically elected.
No trip needed; Putin has offered to begin talks at least four times in just the past month
@@trevorsutherland5263if Putin really wanted peace. He could remove his troops from Ukraine
@@connormycyk1835if NATO wants peace it would not move eastwards and topple sovereign governments
It’s good that there are still leaders in Europe who know the history of the last 30 years
Zelensky doesn’t want a ceasefire, leave him alone , send more money and aid , let him keep fighting
@@monumentaltravel3745 but the problem is , how do you push the Russians out of those annexed lands , the counter offensive failed , there is no sign of another one . To me this war is lost . Zelensky’s gamble didn’t pay off . It’s so sad
@@odunayooyebade7797Ukrainians are just now finishing on f-16 training and NATO can barely hold France back from sending troops. it takes awhile to replace all that old Soviet weapons with all the western made weapons
zelensky just want more money ..
Let HIM keep fighting? Where is he fighting?
Russia's not going to stop!
There is a big chance that Oban actually carries message from Trump
I must crack on and invent a telephone!
And Putin
Get off of it. The media made Trump look bad but look at what Trump really did. Trump knows psychology well enough to sweet talk politicians because he's a business man and not a sponge off of the people. He'll know how to Putin in his place.
Orban just needs to peace out.
No cease-fire and Hungry leader needs to stick to EU stance not his own stance.
And you should go to front in Ukraine
If your country was invaded what would you do just except it which country do you belong too?
@@christopherpinnock7900 Ukraine tried to win the battlefield, but it turned out to have no chance, and is losing people, territory and infrastructure every day. It is getting worse and worse, even waiting for peace talks.
Peace could save thousands of lives...
@@christopherpinnock7900 Like Kosovo or like Karabakh?
@@stomeka Yeah why don't you tell that to Putin instead?
And if Ukraine is to lose territory, will Hungary donate some of its territory for compensation?
The square kilometers Ukraine gives to Russia, Hungary gives to Ukraine. I think that sounds like a fair deal.
Send Hungary packing from the EU. Let them join up with Putin
It is a positive step that Orban visits Ukraine, but I would not count on him helping Ukraine. His proposal for a cease fire only benefits Russia.
How many months pregnant is Orban?
Orbit orban is Between 420 and 620 months pregnant 😏,,,,,,,,,, 😂
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇩🇰❤🇺🇦✌️
Supporting Ukraine’s success is Europe’s best security
Yep. Europe's shield - No one from The Steppes will threaten the World Centre again.
@@stonward Eu is not the only one threatened here...
Isn't Russia a part of Europe. Part of euroasia. Geography 🎉🎉🎉
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv It's called Eurasia. English 🎉🎉🎉
@@stonward how far is the Steeps from the Urals 😁😁🥰😍
Courtesy visit as EU chair. The realities on the ground will dictate the rest of 2024.
Orban is the silent partner of the new Axis of Evil
Not so silent
I want to see how Orban talks once Ukraine is conquered by Russia and Hungary is attacked next. I wonder if he will just let Putin walk right in and take over his country.
Orban is a real politician. He always considers the reality and not fictions. That is a big difference between him and the mainstream leftist liberals.
hungary out of EU
EU=SovietUnion II.
Viktor Orbans proposal is no different from the Chinese proposal, to start a cease fire to start peace negociations. This means that the aggression of Putin would become a frozen conflict and that Russia will consolidate his positions in the mean time in the occupied eastern parts of Ukraine. There can be no peace talks unless Putin withdraws his army and then we will start talking about restoration and all of the damage he has done to an independant country. Would any other Eastern country which could face the same fate such as Poland, the Baltics agree to get demolished and bombed for the wishes of a nut case in the Kremlin who want parts of Europe and then say : thank you very much , now we will start to negociate about peace ?
"This means that the aggression of Putin would become a frozen conflict and that Russia will consolidate his positions in the mean time in the occupied eastern parts of Ukraine." - ignorance my friend. Orban's position is the same from day 0. Even the US general told the Ukranians earlier to negotiate for peace right after they've had a successful counter push. Dont push even more: settle for what you've managed to get back. Actually now (2024.07.23) the russians are making small but steady gains. Stopping that forward movement for a fixed time (1-2 weeks) would be just as helpful for the ukranians as the russians. Problem is: neither side wants to negotiate while they feel they have the momentum on their side. Other question is purely material: how much money each taxpayer is willing to get out of their pocket within the EU and US to fund a war on a non-allied random country's territory? Looking at elections results my guess is: not a majority of taxpayers want their money to be literrally blown up and burnt in war. This war is the complete breakdown and failure of diplomacy. Return back to professional diplomacy and negotiations that can end the war.
Russia attacked Ukraine because they put into their constitution to join to NATO and got weapons from US, which was a real security danger for Russia. Russia wants to have a buffer zone between their territory and NATO countries, that is understandable. Even if I do not like Russian political system the security interest of the biggest nuclear power must be respected.
What a delusional leader
It's the eu, uk, usa leaders that are delusional...
Disillusioned
Did sirens gone mad on Orban's arrival?
Orban. Every time that man changes feet he takes his chance to fart. Often the fart comes out through his mouth.
Orban should have asked Putin for a cease fire.
Why?
Ceasefire without nato or eu is not possible
He called for some kind of peace, and you called him " Putin ally" . Wow , it's pathetic
"for some kind of peace" What some kind of peace? He called for a reprieve so Russia could regroup.
@@serebii666you think Ukraine doesn't need reprieve? Are they just mindless robots fighting?
@@blackmantis3130 Why are you trying to create a strawman? Russia has already proven to disregard and break international agreements, so it follows they will do the same here. Ukraine cycles it's troops out of the battlefield like any other modern army.
@@serebii666 this is common sense. Cease fire is this case benefits Ukraine than Russia. Ukraine is currently mobilizing thousands of men from the street, whom they need to train, Ukraine is waiting for more ammunition and jets. Why would the country with momentum need to regroup?
Because times of peace are not good for begging for weapons
Why not Hungary give some part of your territory to Russia and see what you feel??? Is that makes sense ??? , Hungary only use nato for his good but not for the whole west as nato member
He should be talking to the aggressor Russia but he’s probably terrified 😆😆😆😆
Orban's meeting is meaningless. Blinken just said in Washington today that "on a military level, Ukraine is REQUIRED to combat the Russian Federation's aggression" "going forward over many years." Ukraine isn't allowed to choose peace. The current proxy war is compulsory for years.
DW is so biased it’s not even funny anymore
Of course EU shall always decide based on consensus of which "ceasefire" shall not include the surrender of occupied territories. Otherwise those Russian annexations & gunpoint referendum introduced by Putin on areas outside his jurisdiction shall never end.
Good reporting Nick!
Orban is Putin-in-Budapest? Why doesn’t Orban work for the BudapestSubway System?
How does Zelenskyy not punch Orban in the face when they meet?
Just like I don’t understand how Orban didn’t slap Zelenskyy for trampling the rights of ethnic Hungarians in Transcarpathia, and drafting to a war they can’t win. At least two ways to look at everything.
@@MoltenLens yet you fail to understand who the real bully is: Russia. Without Russia none of this would happen to either country. Hungary from experience should know better.
@@planetguam8475 I dont fail to understand that at all. However in the last two weeks, Ukraine and Hungary seem to have resolved the ethnic Hungarian rights issue, so we should see better ties from here on. Hopefully Hungary may now be more amenable to supporting Ukraine into the EU.
If Russia wasnt constantly acting the prick with its surrounding countries, we'd all get along better.
1. Russia hands over Putin and one trillion dollars to Ukraine
2. cease fire
3. talk
4. Orban pounds sand
Ukraine already tried ceasefire with russia in 2014, russia just continue shelling, ruzzians broke the agreement on the very same day it was signed.
Thats right. Russia continued taking territory even after a ceasefire was signed.
I wonder what was shelled in 2014? and what agreement was signed by Russia you referred are.
🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
Orban looks awkward as if his emails and chats got leaked and now he's forced to visit Kiev😂
if I were Ukrainian, I wouldn't care if Ukraine is independent or not, because at the end of the day I would still live in the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe 😅
Orban got his destination wrong. For peace talks, should have gone to Moscow.
Zelenskyy would definitely be interested in a ceasefire but only if it guarantees Ukraine’s safety and security. The real question is whether Putin interested or not and what happens if he decides to just attack Ukraine again.
Orban, ironically, is the only consequential actor in the making of this video
You mean consequential eater I think. That man can definitely tuck away the grub!
@@TobiasC-mg4zk a very consequential post…I think 🫣
Russia has zero interest in peace n said so over n over
maybe you overslept last a few weeks.Putin publicly stated about his peace offer.
@@RZakelis Maybe you overslept? I can advice that kind of peace deals 20 times a day, it was basically a capitulation
How about you leave that fantasy construct of yours and join us in reality?
Zelenski needs to tell him to peace off.
EU should just depose Orban like what the USSR did with Nagy in 1956.
Orban take a hyke
What a waste of jet fuel. Nobody takes Orban seriously.
Orban is a fool!
who can make russia withdraw from ukraine ? what a bunch of fools .it's like an entitled child who isn't willing to accept the reality
Your reality, I'm (yuk) assuming? Russia, so big and powerful - GDP of, oooo, Spain, maybe? Need I go on?
Maybe bigger than Spain?
@@stonward yeah bcz russia with it's small economy could still not be overcome by 50 countries aiding 1 country .need i go on ?
@@robo__cop8154 please do. Continue making a fool of yourself, I have all day. You really don't want those 50 countries to actually send troops. Poland itself can now take Russia. Huge supplies of old soviet equipment from its glory days are drying up.
@@planetguam8475 yes yes russia is losing .if 50 countries do send troops few fab 3000's will take care of them ,plus those countries will stop sending troops once body bags come home .they're still sending troops as "volunteers" . russia already took 18% of ukraine's land with time it's only going to increase,this after the entire support of west .so who's the fool here ?
Orban, please go tell Putin to leave Russia immediately 🙄
Why?
@@larsvontrier753 Because Ukraine is embarrassing the second best army in Ukraine 🤪
@sgu2693 not proper answer. You can have any army but if your army can't make somebody to move any political demands to move are ridiculous
@@larsvontrier753 Say what? 🤔
Ukraine will join NATO
No chance.
Yes in heaven 😂😂
When Russia becomes a democracy with rule of law and freedom they will join NATO as well :)
@@Zyzyx442😂😂😂 Russia application to NATO in the 90s was rejected.🥺🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv Russia's application was a Trojan Horse offer... NATO was smart to reject
If a snake visits it doesn't change it being cold blooded. Secrets of a snake are hidden but comes in agile way inorder to seduce
Just joking about Orban, Putin's ally, and what he is doing with NATO. In fact, NATO is using him to undermine Putin and persuade Zelensky. 😂
How does DW's Nick know what the people think?
Why can’t this Hungary President visit Putin and tell him to back off instead! Then there will be peace!! Putin must have sent him for sure
Hey you must be psychic.
His foreign minister Mr. Szijjarto has done it personally in 2022 on a wide public, when he attended Russian Energy day. No other Western politicians did it.
He should came 20 years ago to Ukraine and told all ukrainian politics to stay neutral
He come to Ukraine to collect scrap metal.
So Russia wanted a cease-fire already, and now by coincidence, Orban also wants a cease-fire. Who would have thought those 2 would align?
Every normal people want ceasefire.
@@aaz3313Normal people don't invade and kill their neighbours.
@@RPGPlayground In 1956 both Russian and Ukrainien solders came to Hungary after the order of Nikita Hruschev, who was also Ukrainian, and killed Hungarians, neighbors.
United states ignited this war to weaken Russia but the ordinary European citizens are paying the price of this war. Before war 40% of oil and gas of Europe was coming from russia which was very cheap due to which inflation was low in europe and there economy was thriving, people were living a decent life before war and also before pandemic. The Russian economy too were developing at good pace but the us was not happy with this. They are thousands of miles away from europe and they don't have any impact of the war. Now the eu is much weaker so they are now more dependent on US . US wants eu to be its slave and never wants eu to become equally powerful as they are. From this war only united States is the winner. The eu, ukraine and russia are the loosers here
Russia did that, no one wants to attack Russia, Russia attacks neighbors regularly
What a good little Russian you are, blaming everyone else for your KGB dictator's blundering and mistakes
No one gives a damn about Russia in US.Completely irrelevant country to them.China is USA rival, not second rate country as Russia.
Inflation in the EU is like 2%.
Putin invaded Ukraine!
No one in world trust putler .
Trust or not, the Ukrainian government should not force civilians to go to the front line
And stumbling Biden, crackling Kamal Harris.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
TomyD1321
Welcome to earth
Wait untill you see a guy called Joe biden...
But the clown is the best liar
Well, that was a waste of time.
Orban is only one respectable political leader in the EU.
He has made every effort to take this war to the peaceful resolution.
May God save the hungarian PM.
Dang you are desperate Vlad, what a nonsense, stay of the wodka! 😂😂
W
He was probably there to save what is still living of the hungarian minority in Ukraine.
I imagine he also urged Z to treat the ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine with equity regarding conscription, etc.
Almost every family in UA has lost father, brother, dad etc. People do not need war.
We need peace please
Zelensky has no soldiers left, what kind of man puts woman on the frontlines with 1 week of training
Is Orban Putin PA???
Kapitulation? Selenski nobody 😂
Yes
Please call him the most peaceful Leander pro Russia 🇷🇺 Leander
What happened to Nord Stream pipeline Germany 🇩🇪 🤔 😂😂
Screw that russia is hurting
Thank God he can't do as much damage to NATO as Trump would to Ukraine. Maybe Orban could give half of Hingarry to Putin if he agrees to withdraw from Crimea.
Seems Orban cease fire proposal be pitched to Putin first. Orban reverse thinking serves Putin first.
Orban is giving peace talks good chance for clown zelenski
Orban is shame to whole ES
The only rational leader, Orban
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This dude is scary crazy.
At the start of war, Ukraine broke two peace agreements with Russia. Why no one is talking about.
BS
How this man became leader. Oh hungarian pity. Orban is putin in hungaria. hmm
Better to have Orban on the throne than a clown
Cease fire is an acknowledgement of russias claim to Ukrainian territory.
Only according to the ukrainian laws
😂😂 EU wants Zelensky to fight but deep down he knows his men are being pounded on the front line.
🤣🤣 You must be desperate Vlad from saint petersburg.
@@13BulliTsDesperate is a petson, who see them proxy war going bad, but pretending to laugh in the comments . 😃