This AFFORDABLE 42' Project Yacht Has Surprising VALUE [Full Tour] Learning the Lines
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- I was pleasantly surprised by the Gulfstar 42. I like the layout, the cockpit design, and the shear amount of space in the engine room and lazarettes. Gulfstar is typically not a brand you find on people's lists for bluewater cruisers, but I don't think these boats should be counted out just yet. For the money, Gulfstars seem to offer more than other brands out there, meaning you can get a bigger boat with more accommodation for less.
This particular boat might make a great Caribbean cruiser with some time and money put in for a refit.
What do you think?
(Forgot to put the year of this boat in the video, it's a 1987)
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Thank you for showing this one. I keep seeing this one listed but your video really brought it to life. Keep showing more like these that may need some TLC.
I love the quick walk through. Very considerate.
I love ❤️ this boat! The engine room was the best part.
4:10 that's a V.A.W.T. a Verticle Axis Wind Turbine
The red device aft is a small and cheap vertical wind generator (google "vertical wind generator")
They aren't great because they create drag on the fins going into the wind which greatly depletes their potential rotational speed. TO BE AVOIDED. The generator however if fitted to traditional blades on a horizontal axis are reasonably good. I would prefer the engine "access" to be internal storage space or cabin space from inside the main cabiln, as engines are generallly reliable and service and repair is not required often enough to merit the loss of living space, in a Jenneau or Bennateau they are either sleeping cabin(s)and/or Head. Also in heavy weather both main and aft cabins would take a lot of water from the cockpit sole.
Thanks for the video. Yep it's a fixer upper. Figure a bottom job too.
You made the top 40 utube sailing shows
Congrats well deserved
Denny from Minnesota
I'd never paid nearly $50K for this wreck. The only "parts" that seemingly did NOT need replacement was the bare hull and the mast. $20K max.
Well don't then smh.
Agreed. Needs $40,000 in updates and 6 months to a year of work doing it.
@@Goearthtour LOL
What a dingy little boat what else you got?
Nice tour thank you, I thought that aft deck is pretty cool. Def not for open ocean. But the calmer waters pretty neat
I don't know why but I love looking at the interior of theses boats so much!
The contraption on the back deck is a wind generator.
Given the condition and lack of cruising gear, this is a $15k boat at best. When I look at what other you tubers got for $50k. Thinking MillennialFacon and Soulianis.
your correct, there is a gulfstar for sale in Dunedin fl for around that 20k or less on CL
@@motorvesseltortugasunrise1886 Yep and a Valliant 40 in SF for $39k
That's a cool coastal cruiser, kids in the front, mom and dad in the back!
This was an interesting boat for sure, but what was that clunky looking "box" near the bow? Loved all that room around the engine but didn't notice much if any sound proofing! V-berth was very dark and tight looking. This boat's galley was huge for it's size but the settee seemed way too small and cramped. Aft cabin the same way, but perhaps it was designed for "little people"!? So happy to see you still doing these boat tours AND working AND being a new parent!
Definitely gonna need some work on the trim the engine and it looks like there might be a leak somewhere from that headliner. Mixed feelings on that PVC on the standing rig. It’s basically to stop chafing on the lines but it seems to hold moisture around the turnbuckles. I think if you would replace the standing rigging I will put some ventilation holes in the lower section if I continue to use the PVC rollers. That’s for that funky multi anchor shaped doodad that was on the stern deck as that it’s not bolted down and has some kind of a rope attached to it makes me think it might be some kind of sea anchored or drogue.
That was a cool boat. The layout seems like a workable system.
The hull and topside looks good.
Below seems to need cleaning and some elbow grease.
The systems seem like they need alot of work.
Great to see video from you guys again. Hope all is well with the family
I actually put in an inquiry on this vessel today! Hopeful to make a deal on her...will update!
At 4:10, it looks like at 4 people have already shot down my thought that the red device is a table mount by identifying it as a wind turbine. Well you can tell how long it's been sailing. God Bless and stay safe and take great care of Morgan.
Please, please, please mention the price of the boat in your initial verbal summary. Just say this is the price of the boat as of March 2021 The price may or may not be adjusted at a later date . I’m not sure if you are aware that the description cannot be located while watching you tube on a tv. It’s very frustrating to watch a video on tv and then to look up the description on an iPhone. Looking forward to seeing more videos with the price included !
Thanks
Good video.. I could smell it.. I think..
Yup, that musty boat smell was coming right thru the computer speaker
Nothing like the smell of mildew and mothballs!
Isn't that a teak fold-down seat aft of the pilot wheel?
Wow 42'. I would have guessed 50+ from the photo. However when you went inside it does look smaller. Strange layout with the aft cabin inaccessible from the salon. For me the center cockpit is the outstanding feature of the boat. The aft deck is interesting but what about mounting a dingy?
Thanks for the tour. Only 42 of these built so you are really touring vintage history. Can I ask why you are a fan of the center cockpit design?
Center cockpits usually give you a really protected cockpit, a nice open aft deck, and typically a nice aft cabin. The tradeoff is a smaller main salon, but I think it's a fair trade. This point might be moot for newer designs though that can incorporate an aft cabin, or cabins, with an aft cockpit because of how they carry the beam all the way aft. So I guess my real preference is for center cockpits in older boats only.
@@LearningtheLines Makes sense. I've also heard the center design is good for solo sailing
@@SailingChannels makes docking a little easier if you doing a lot of island hopping but like marinas its a benefit.
Love the videos, but could you explicitly say on each boat review with what the boat is constructed with.
Excuses, excuses, excuses...new baby, moving, work...come on man. You have 85.7k subscribers impatiently waiting for the next boat tour. 😜😜 Say hey to Randy and the baby. Oh, thanks for the tour. 👍👍👍
Overall, I like it but the engine room is kind of out of proportion to the size of this boat. It almost felt like TOO much storage for a boat this size. I think I would give up one of the lazarettes for a 1/4 berth. I think you would still have comfortable engine access and the berth would give you the flexibility of extra sleeping and still be able to use it for storing sails or whatever if needed. I am no expert, but the price seems a bit high considering the standing rigging needs replaced and there was a lot of "deferred maintenance" that needed to happen before it is a trustworthy boat. Great walkthrough.
ya you could build a machine shop down there hu mmmmm
Actually not a bad looking boat for the money. You did describe it accurately as a "project" boat. Just a couple of questions, Is there a water maker on board? and what is the capacity for both fresh water and black water? And lastly how much would it cost to replace any missing electronics, autopilot and electronic chart/plotter?
That's more than a project, in my opinion. L:ooks like a Odd Crafting (You Tube) type boat.
Odd is a much nicer boat than that---even on the first day they bought it! I agree though about all the work it needs but with the gutting Id give it Id say its closer to a Sail Life type of boat! 🙂
What a cool boat. Much nicer than the ones you owned until now.
Nice woodwork. Give it a good clean, diesel motor out and electric in and sail around the world... No brainer for me. Are you ever going to buy a boat again? Our living the normal lives ons the land and own a house?
4:06 Kraken in its heyday.
Agree with you 100 per cent about this being a great layout. Two couples could live happily aboard without getting in each other's hair. Wikipedia is interesting about Gulfstar, seems it was the baby of one of the pioneers of fibreglass boats in Florida, Vince Lazzara. But this one does not look as though it's had a lot of mechanical maintenance, I would be suspicious of all the systems and ideally would want to fit a new Yanmar or Kubota. Plenty of engine room to do the swap! So it needs to be super-cheap to be a viable project. But assuming the deck and hull are good it's definitely worth restoring. Get rid of that monstrosity hanging off the back. As you say, it would make a great Caribbean sailor. Why don't you buy it? Plenty of room for you, the Mrs and junior!
Yes, it needs a lot of work.
For a boat of its size it really seemed tight & cramped. I'd expect a lot more elbow room in a 42 (especially in the aft cabin!)
Good live aboard, but for sailing needs a lot of work
Yes and a large wallet to get it there
One thing you should always do is pull up the floor hatches to show the bilge. This is a 20k boat. Probably needs to be repowered, standing rigging needs replaced, don't know the condition of the sails but I can guess, and the condition of the mast step is suspect. Basically you're buying a hull and deck.
The back deck extension is designed for scuba diving, not a park bench. And the Keys are a perfect location for that.
I like aft cabins also but it's unfortunate there is no interior passage way from the salon to the aft.
I know, even a little Irwin 37 has a walk through!
Something very bizarre about the Florida sun. It'll bake gelcoat in no time. My slip neighbor in the Keys taught me the value of keeping your gelcoat waxed. We agreed that Florida is where boats go to die.
Can you imagine the size of battery bank if this was converted to electric?! This could be a sweet, self-sufficient liveaboard for someone.
a 48volt battery bank and electric motor could move this boat just fine, altho 72 volts might work better with a 72 volt motor to really get it to hullspeed.
@@CawffeeTyme Yep though I doubt anyone would need hull speed under power on this boat. Half that would keep you under control and out of harms way... and make your batteries last longer! Point is that the cavernous engine bay would perfectly suit that kind of conversion.
The thing at the back could be a vertical wind generator
04:00 I believe that is a vertical wind generator
i love that boat here in the northesat newhampshire boston capecod and islands and maine coast these are everywhere S2 pearson ODAY Catalina there all up here Gulfstreams are not rare around here
You need to branch out and do motor boats too.As always Great Show
Denny from Minnesota
Gulfstar custom made these for CSY Charters. Most of them had solid deck with no core. Not sure about the 42.
I don't know if the year was mentioned but year is missing from the name, description, and the data sheet in the video. Judging from the time period, this really seems cramped for a boat this size. I guess the price reflects this but it really feels like a smaller mid 30ft boat from a useable space perspective but the cost of owning a 40'+ boat with upkeep and marina fees are considered.
It's an '87, I forgot to add that to the video. Added to the description.
Geraldo Rivera used to sail one of these. Not sure what length.
I would have liked this boat better if it had been in well maintained condition. It almost looks like it was abandoned, as opposed to having an owner who wants to sell her and has cleaned her up (and cleaned her out) to help with the sale. I'm also wondering about the year of manufacture? Note - The same boat is for sale on Yacht World and shows a build date of 8/86.
I'm looking for cheoy Lee ketch 45 to 53 project is okay to if you know any please let me know
Is it a cored hull?
The pink thing is a wind generator.
That hardtop is a lot of windage that can't be taken down and there does not seem to be a dodger so you are still going to get spray/wind. All that 'storage' is the loss of living space., not a good trade-off in a 40' boat. No nav station, wet heads, no davits for a dingy, no good place to store one inflated on deck, small galley... That low headroom in the v-berth means only good for sleeping. Decent liveaboard if you are mostly at a dock and don't mind a small saloon and lack of a separate shower. I like interesting boats but to me, this is a miss.
And a v berth is NOT a desirable place to sleep under way.
that red thing look like part of a wind generator.
Correction! - in my comment! The Gulf Star HAS a skeg hung rudder, AND is a better performer and has a better reputation than I was aware of! Read my original comment to realize why one shouldn’t assume things!
Peace
Original comment below:
- “If you’re staying in the Caribbean and hauling out for hurricane season, and if you dump a whole lot of dough in her, she’d be an ok coastal cruiser - over all I’m less than impressed. I need to cross an ocean every year or two. I want something robust, full integrated keel, skeg hung rudder and at least one bow and one stern bulkhead.
Layout and accommodations were quite all right, on the plus side for the Gulf Star. I’m here due to the centre cockpit (and the price! lol)”
Peace.
The pink funny dohicky looks like an old wind generator fans/arms.... not sure that’s just my opinion...
:)
Price is pure crack rock
I assume you know the current price of such?, there is help for people like you with addictions.
The object is a small wind turbine
A good example of what I call a "negative value" boat. That's a boat that, even with a lot of sweat equity, you will still have to put so much money into her that you will be totally upside down value-wise when you are done. There are very few project boats out there that can support a refit investment. You are much better off taking the money you planned to spend on the project boat and its refit and finding something newer that just needs cosmetic work, even if you have to go smaller. This one needs much more than that.
Exactly what I was thinking, says the ex-sailor who has a Trawler worth a quarter of what I’ve invested.
Congratulations on NOT saying the word "AWESOME". We knew you could do it!
For your next video we would like to see a video response to your tour from Morgan Collinet. I'm sure she will have a lot to say!
Likewise congratulations for not saying 'super' - e.g "super-cool / super-tired - etc. Its an irritating new word on YT.
@@alphaomega3499 LOL
Maybe i'll call the broker and see if i can look over the survey, i imagine she'll need a repower, rigging, sails and most all components.
that red thing ies a wint turbin
My 1979 Gulf Star 37 is in 200% better condition than that poor boat from 1987. I'll give the owner 20 bucks to drill some holes in it and turn it into a sealife habitat. $49k is about $30k too high.
LOL
That back hanging deck would be the first thing removed. Looks goofy.
Money pit! RUN! ...or offer $10k...cuz you'll need $100k refit to sail her. (Jmo)
The disarray... the fire hazzard of rags, flammable sprays and oil above the battery/electrical compartments ...that eyesore swim platform bolted through the transom just ruins her clean lines..every hatch hinge rusted almost beyond function......all a reflection of her treatment and maintenance.
Shoot the captain. 😇
Jordan, what year build? Curious. Enjoy your tours, even these fixer-uppers!
It's an '87, I forgot to add that to the video. Added to the description.
Wind powered gen arator vertical
Will not even look a boat over 20 years old still going to spend the money fixing it.
To make this more than a dock domicile.
I think price is high for a tired boat. 35,000 max
Why is to fix up area n the price
What needs to be done besides the rigging
Blades for a wind turbine
Asking $25k too much. Going to take $100k to fix it right.
LOL
That’s a PoS is what that is.....
A complete refit! It's a mess!! It's pretty obvious that the current owner didn't care about his boat - didn't care for his boat either... I wouldn't take it if it was free. It would cost too much even it was free.
Well don't, nobody is forcing you to take it.
I don't like that one. Now I do like the gulfstar but I prefer the 44.8 its much more boat. I was in huracan Irma with mine and she would have made it if the coat gard did not let me.
Wind generator
My guess as well
That seems likely. Do you suppose that's the mounting pole for it laying alongside the whisker pole?
Then what’s with the spool of rope on it? Makes me think more see anchor or drogue.
It’s a Chinese wind turbine from eBay! Cheap and very bad quality I had the same on my Hunter34! It last about 2 weeks! Lol
We have a winner! so much for my thought.
It's a table.
That red / pink thing in the back of the boat, is a rudder for a ducks ass....🤣
This boat would be a good project boat while they can still use it for short hops . I hate center cock pits boats
I thought the spider was on my computer screen LOL I would get rid of the seats on the rear deck and store a dingy there
Next Time lift up the Cabin soul Bro so we can see the Bilge, If you can Thanks
That just needs a clean out and a clean up. A motivated individual could make this into something really nice. Sailing Uma started with less.
Yeah, except Uma only spent about $5K I think, not $49K.
@@svechappe6075 True. Then again they have a Pearson 36 that they found an unbelievably good deal on. Even so it was in way rougher shape than this boat.
I wouldn't be surprised if the sellers wouldn't take a lower offer. This one is a bit larger and it will require some tlc to get back into shape. But it's not nearly the challenge that Dan and Kika faced.
Sailing Uma did start with worse for sure and bigger isnt always better when you start buying materials and having to do the work! Then when you pay to dry dock, dock, or ship you have to pay more too! Oh and dont forget your sailing permits when entering which are based on tonnage or length!
No way to get from forward to aft without going on deck.
Search captain q dont buy this boat, to see what an old boat is supposed to look like.
I was thinking our guy here should look at the captain's videos. Pick up some editing pointers. Still I greatly appreciate getting to see different boats.
Why do Americans say...thats gonna be your chain locker....its not gonna be....it is your chain locker....
Well if you dont own it yet it isnt yours... but if you buy the boat its going to be YOUR chain locker!
and also the words: super (e.g. : "super-fast / super-tired / super-hot etc.") and also the word awesome. However, I don't think its just the Americans in this case.
@@danielbuckner2167 Well if you buy it then it will be YOUR chain locker.
For a boat this size, there should be much more room inside it. Far too much space has been completely wasted by creating a huge engine compartment for such a tiny engine. Had that space been used more effectively, there could have been an interior passage going between the for and aft cabins with a couple of bunks added in along the side of the hull on one side and an additional head added in on the other side for the rear compartment. That huge engine compartment, while seemingly nice at first glance, simply has no business being in a boat that people are expected to live aboard during trips. SUCH A MASSIVE WASTE OF VERY VALUABLE SPACE.
Typically I wouldn’t say anything when I see a poorly designed boat, but, well, umm..... I guess it could be cleaned up and taken a second look.
In the head in the aft cabin on the sink you see a plastic drum, that is a hand crank washing machine. I have used one and one shirt and a pair of jeans is all you can wash at one time. Great for Ramon eating college students but not full time sailors. I have seen better boats for sale at less money. I would pass on this diamond in the extra rough.
I'm going to guess the device on the swim platform is for a wok.
But there is a roller with rope on it making me think more like a sea anchor of some kind or drogue.
@@duanemiller5606 That's an interesting idea, too. My first thought was wok because of it being near the grill and where it'd be easy to jettison if things got out of control, but I'm pretty sure it's really a wind generator. There's a mounting pole laying alongside the whisker pole that's probably meant for it.
@@EricEversonArtAndDesign As I re-examine it that spindle in the middle may not be a rope therefore you could be very much right.
It’s a 15k boat
Frankly, not a lot of room for a '42 . Poorly taken care of. I don't like the layout (personal opinion). Not an extended blue water boat. I wouldn't want to cross oceans with it. Needs a lot of work. I've seen better for less. I'd offer a lot less.
Imagine if that little center cockpit drain clogged up, wouldn’t everything flood?
I can see this boat with Robert Redford everything going wrong lol
Do they want 50K for that wreck? really? For one it looks like no one has sailed that in 20 maybe 30 years. I'll spend most of that just to get the engine to start, and to remove whatever hoarders moved in rent-free for years.
Put in electric motors and increase the battery consist to get another berth.
Or a passageway to the aft cabin.
This is defo NOT a bargain. This is a money pit going deeper and deeper with the new owner getting heart attacks with so much frustration. You can even smell this wreck watching that complacent video. Good luck with it but even at 15 k I would not buy it.
Its not bad for a 50k boat if you want to starting a TH-cam channel
For 50k there are some beautiful sailing ready boats out there... More like 12 or 15,000 tops
@@313barrygmail Hes saying that for YT channel the worse the better. I think you can find worse looking but in fair enough shape cheaper with plenty to film refitting still.
Please start off with.....they are asking $xxx dollars.....otherwise we have to scroll through the whole dog gone thing and still not get price..kinda important to your viewers don’t you think?
Tour is pronounced: Two-ur. It's a dipthong, like oil, or bout, etc.
Aft deck is lame.
Looks like a garbage scow to me
Geez louise, the amount of yanks on here expecting the boat to be perfect, oh spend just spend a million on the boat and it will be ok but you still need to spend a million on the engine blah blah blah. All you dry land sailors smh.
What sort of comment is that? I estimate 50% of us having trouble pricing this wreck at 50k are active sailors/boat owners - or do you know better/have correct numbers for your statement?
@@SteifWood It's not my problem you are having problems with your maths, maybe you should have actually listened to the teacher instead of daydreaming eh.
@@MegaDirtyberty Hmmm, 1) I know it's not directly calculus or accounting (which I have also done), but I have written a dissertation with 50% focus on factor analysis and multidimensional scaling. No need for more math teachers here. 2) As a TA I taught undergrads - like u seems to be. Frequently I had to grade you and your peers in the "hopeless pile". 3) Yrs and yrs ago I completely restored my 31 foot sailboat - hull, rig and interior. Yes, the boat is now on land, but that's because we frequently have up to 5" of ice in the marina. However, soon after Easter I will start a second major overhaul and I have never regard myself as "dry land sailor".
@@SteifWood A "dissertation" roflmao, so now you are going to beat people down because you went to university and now have a (supposedly) superior intellect to them eh.
@@MegaDirtyberty Well, you started it all by questioning my math skills. I just responded telling the truth and I have no more interest in discussing anything about intellect.
YUCK!
That aft deck is not ”nice”, it is ugly and stupid. Why would anybody build something like that anyways?