The Most UNIQUE Sailboat I've Toured Thus Far [Full Tour] Learning the Lines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Maggie Duff is a Edey and Duff built, Phil Bolger designed Bird of Dawning leeboard yawl. She's been converted to a Sloop under the direction of the designer. Her unique features include the hull design, the unstayed and tabernackled carbon mast, leeboards, and a transom-hung retractable rudder to name a few. You won't see many sailboats like this one, and that's why I think she's so special.
She's also relatively affordable for a vessel this size at an asking price of $50,000.
What do you think?
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Learning the Lines is a channel about us, an average couple in our 20's, with big dreams to be sailing the world by the time we're in our 30's. We're not afraid to jump into anything, put in the work, and learn as we go. We started out with Somnium, an O'day 272, moved onto Freebie, an Endeavour 32, and now are focusing on sailboat tours and working full time as teachers while we save up for our next boat.
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My father had this boat built when he retired on a disability. He worked closely with Duff throughout the (tortuous) process. He and his wife sailed it in the Chesapeake and the Gulf for several years before docking in Florida when he could no longer handle it. I remember those lee boards could release outward as well as being hauled up aft. When it was a yawl it had along boomkin.
I just completed a binge watch of about 90% of your uploaded video's and have to say I wish you all the best. I was a bit disapointed with the direction of your channel as it is just not for me now.
What i liked was the couple diving into a project in this case a Sailboat and learning along the way, the struggles and the misfortune and hardships learning along the way and that is where you two started.
I would not be a fan to point out mistakes or methods in your journey learning the way you had to do things and calling you names about your skill or aparent cost or even timeline of some of the projects. Sure i found it entertaining watching a TEAM doing demolition and making decisions about how to do things on the boat. I expected mistakes and struggles as many other channels in the process dealt with the same, but from what I saw you shoudl be proud of all the work you did complete on the boat.
The letdown for me was to hear that you were giving up on the project all together. For sure I understand "Time and Cost" were the main factors in selling FREEBEE, but I just think of all the hard work and then simply letting it all go was a letdown for me. Even worse was the walkthrough and the unfinished projects on the boat were a realy disapointment for me. Half completed projects really says much about taking on a Refit of a Sailboat. The cost is great, the learning curve is for sure great and most of all the time it actually takes I'm sure is what breaks most people.
The reality is the channels that REFIT a Sailboat and are successfull are far and few success stories.
So what do I think of the direction your channel is going and is it for me? Well a channel dedicated to Sightseeing of reachable or mostly "Unreachable" Dream Boats is just not for me. I have watched a few of your walkthrough videos and it seemed that the research and expertise was a bit lacking and I found it a Floorplan/Look how many hidden storage areas there are on this boat video. Maybe a bit more information and creative Editing can make your videos better and more informative in the future. They are probably better already, but do not slack on this if you want quality. Overall I got the idea before you were to sell your free boat as you started doing these walkthroughs and the project videos or progress seemed to waiver, but I thought you were looking as a buyer and maybe you were at some point, then the videos started to look at boats not in many peoples budget's. It was clear in those videos that you were moving on from realistic videos and just like adverts and I found that borring.
Ok Long enough and I do wish you all the best. Yeah I think a NEW SEAWIND FAMILY CAT woudl be best for your family but I would not go smaller than a 1260.
Anything designed by Phil Bolger is going to be interesting and have alot of boat in a small space. This is a nice layout below. It would be interesting to see it fully rigged and under sail
Sink on center line is great! I love the layout of the below decks!
The European Dutch bones of this vessel are very strong. Navigating inland waterways would necessitate the pivoting mast, shallow draught & leeboards. Lots of practicality below decks for extended cruising & river & canal voyages. Another commenter said something along the lines of a lot of boat in a small space.
*Edit: On another topic, tabernacle was said so many times in this video I couldn't help but think of a French Canadian friend of mine. One of his favourite curse words (mine too for that matter) is: "tabernac!" Said with a Quebecois accent of course.
I love the interior layout of this boat, even with all that space wasted essentially in the bows. Perfect for a couple with lots of room.......very interesting, cheers.
Sweet sailboat. Love her for the Great Loop!
I lived a boat life similar to what you have planned and enjoyed all of it. Bravo and best wishes.
Very nice to see a Phil Bolger boat. More please. She is very nice, unique and has worn well. Would have liked a stern shot and I think she is quite a bit sharper than a dutch barge, tho both are lee boards. . Would also enjoy more on Bolger and any other interesting designers in your neighbourhood. thks aagain. Good vid. To bad you couldn't have taken her out. Would have been fun to see.
Very cool& practical ship.
Many thanks
Those external leeboard remind me of the boats I saw frequently while living in Holland. Nice tour! TOUR REQUEST: Hylas 54 or Passport 545. Thanks!
Has to be one of a few boats without a v- berth! The inside is crazy nice! The access to the engine and separate shower stall is great!! The mast would be great for the canals in Europe 💯
Looks super cozy
I would love to see the process of raising and lowering the mast. Very cool!
With her narrow beam, I was expecting a much more cramped below decks. It actually surprised me with the use of space. Thanks for the post
Love this boat!
That's a lot of boat for that price in that condition. Would make a great liveaboard and shallow draft cruiser. Thanks for showing this unique Vessel. 👍👍
Looks like a really good deal. Wow👍🏻
Interesting design and abilities in this boat - well done. Say hi to Randi from Randy 👍
Folding mast needed to cruise European waterways
Bolger clearly the all of the best ideas into this boat - and created a monstrosity!
You're right, Jordan. Very unique. The one thing I don't like is the head being across from the galley. "I hope that's not my supper I'm smelling..." :^)
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This was the most interesting boat I've seen.
I really like the interior of the boat.
Wow, just Wow !!!
I didn't know something like this even existed and I'm absolutely blown away. I love this crazy vessel and would absolutely love to own it. Talk about the perfect cruiser when it comes to things like the ICW or the French/European Canals. Bridges, I don't care about no stinking bridges. All I can say is come on AMC...
Thank you for bringing this type of vessel to my attention young man. When I finally have the funds, a yacht like this one is now definitely on my radar if she's already sold. I would have to rename her though to something like "Get'r Done" because that's exactly what she does. Add some Lithium, Solar, Water Maker, Dingy Davits, Gen Set and it would be my PB. The Perfect Boat as the Captain would say...
I wouldn't be so sure, this boat appeared to be dangerously low on Dinty Moore...
@@Paraphen
Copy that!😁
@@Paraphen Dinty Moore ??? what do you mean by the & dangerously low?
@@jasongondola9687 at the end of his comment when he said "it would be my PB. The Perfect Boat as the captain would say..." they're referencing the youtube channel "Captain Q Yachf Hunter", and Captain Q has a running gag where every time they look in the galley of a boat they always find a can of beef stew hidden away somewhere
Great unusual boat
Your right, awesome design.,.
Good coverage
Well done watched it 5 times
Love this boat! Sweet price too! Hello Mr. banker tomorrow! Lol
Thanks for the information it would be perfect for the third Coast of Texas ☺️ Been follow Y'all the beginning love your boat ⛵ tours.
God bless Y'all and much peace and love from northeast Texas 🤠🇺🇸🇺🇸
It seems very cozy
Literally love that boat wish could afford truly
Very interesting boat! Captain Q just reviewed one with the odd helm position too!
Very odd but I bet it is a fun and challenging sail to operate it!
Great video!!
Are you sure? I've just checked all his videos, and can't find any Phil Bolger boats amongst them.
@@Garryck-1 I think he meant worm gear(backwards wheel). He did one of those.
@@campesinoverdado7788 - Ahh.. ok. Thanks for the clarification!
This is a super boat for the canals of Europe.
Interesting sailboat.
Great price too!
Good stuff bro
Seems like a great deal at 50k asking. Lots of great engineering.
Nice modern iteration of a traditional dutch sail barge
very nice
My 28' Shearwater cat ketch has carbon fibre masts in tabernacles. She draws 14 inches with centreboard and a pivoting skeg/rudder. She is a 1981 prototype that I have owned for 20 years. She was in 2022 Race to Alaska and performed very well. Very interesting video.
stayed or unstayed CF mast.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines unstayed . Built in 1981.
Not my style but I appreciate the fact that you showcase different ideas and designs
Great two person boat with occasional guests.
I love different!
None of the ports, even those in the galley, are of the opening kind. Same for the head. I didn't see any dorados anywhere. If it is raining or in active seas, the two deck hatches will be sealed. In following seas, the small stern ports in the aft cabin must be closed. This boat appears to have very, very limited ventilation.
Thankfully the port lights on the side of the hull can be replaced with fully functional ports.
I believe I have seen this design in a boat design book. I am a big fan of leeboards which are almost taboo. Shallow draft capability, no keel to rip off or damage, hanging out in clear non turbulent water what is not to like. My next boat that I build will have leeboards. I would buy this boat in a heartbeat.
That one is in Boger's book, Different Boats, Ch. 27
Great for canals and lakes in Holland.
A few interesting ideas I could include in my own build......
Her underbody has a much finer entry than a barge. She should handle head seas and chop much better than a typical bluff, full ended barge. Big lee boards are not ideal for big seas off shore. That doesn't mean she couldn't make a passage, of course, to get to the next shallow cruising ground. The lee boards should only be needed when beating.
There’s got to be a lot of Dutch origins in that boat!
More like English barges but close enough, he modeled quite a few of his big shoal draft cruisers on the Thames barges
Google "Phil Bolger designed Bird of Dawning leeboard yawl" to see her under sail. Gaffed main, chinese mizzen. Surprisingly attractive, eccentric and neat boat.
How does that sliding bow hatch seal when closed with the mast up ? It looks like during rough seas water could fill the bow locker .
Thanks for the look at that unique boat. Pluses: fun, novel, very shoal draft, un-stayed tabernacle mast. Either of these latter 2 could mean the difference of have or not having a sailboat of this size. I also love the LaVac head (best head there is) and the Edson gallon a stroke manual bilge pump. And the engine access is soooooo important. All of us that has spent hours, days, years, twisted and bent over near impossible places to reach really appreciate this. Negatives:
Not sure on the robustness of the leeboards, quirky layout. (Where do you snuggle with your honey). And I take it that the only full standing headroom is the center cabin with galley and head? And do those nice ports in the main trunk cabin open?? Didn’t look like it. The specs said that it was airex cored construction. Just so that doesn’t include below the waterline, thats good. And I personally don’t like bow sprits as they “ punish” you in that you gain overall length in docking costs and difficulties in maneuvering in close quarters. If a pole like that rams another vessel with the entire mass of the boat on that one point, wow, a lot of damage. And it does cause heavier pitch moment ( hoppy horsing). But, its all a trade off.
If the ballast and leeboards are adequate it looks like it would sail well. Especially off the wind. Good waterline length and reduced wetted surface. Displacement to length ratio is 155, which puts it at least near the Ultra light category! And a sail area to displacement of 24.5. Very high! (Fast) And as to oceanworthyness, the capsize formula number on this boat is 1.54 which is excellent. Many serious ocean crossing boats today don’t do that well on this factor. Unique. Thanks again for the look.
Wow, thank you for your comment that's just full of knowledge for those of us just beginning to really dig into the cruising life. It is of great help to folks like myself so thank you again...
@@PastorwithoutaPulpit My pleasure. 100 ton Master Captain, US Sailing Cruising Instructor. Have owned and lived aboard / cruised 5 of my own boats and Captained up to 110” ferry’s. Also ran a Dive sail business in Caribbean and am PADI Scuba instructor. So always glad to share my experiences to help others.
@@roadboat9216 Boger was a great shoal draft designer and modeled a lot of his larger shallow draft cruisers after Thames barges, so it's nice to see somebody "get it." He knew leeboards backwards and forwards and if they're made to plan, they will be fine. And I trust Edey & Duff construction, having owned a Dovekie that was built like the proverbial s---house. That airex core is impervious to pretty much anything. I also built a sharpie to his design, Black Skimmer, that exceeded expectations and currently own a Bolger Micro, which I'm always slightly embarrassed by (not exactly a looker) but it sails amazingly well. So, anyway... this is his special wheelhouse, so to speak, and it looks to me like a phenomenal yawl.
@@earling22 Thanks for the info. Sounds like you know a lot about this designer. Still prefer solid glass below the waterline. Have seen Airex delaminate. Especially in impact areas. But yes, a unique lovely vessel.
The entire hull is airex cored, just fyi
Good looking boat for the price. It is not a Yawl, it is a Sloop and the mast setup is interesting but it claims too much space at the forward area of the boat. I would return it to a rigged keel stepped mast, would add the second mast to re make it a Yawl and add two good roller furled jibs at the bow. Of course, I would throw away the window AC and install a marine AC in the technical closet.
Looks like a giant floating compromise.
All boats are about compromise. It's just a matter of what gets prioritised.
Unique boat bet it could traverse the USA via trailer easy allowing Atlantic and Pacific cruising. Heck you could drive it from Florida to the great lakes then Maine and have a ball.. For the size great price w new engine. Good video 👍
The trailer required to haul this boat would be costly! You would do better to sail down the coast and cross the Panama canal.
Also, not sure why you would want to haul this boat from Florida waters to the Great Lakes when you could have an adventure sailing it up the mighty Mississippi.
@@glutenfreegam3r177 the cost of using the Panama Canal would buy a nice trailer. People been eating gluten for thousands of year too so sometimes people think different than your.
@@dreadnoughtb3364 have you actually priced a Panama canal trip versus having a 40 foot boat hauled across country? Go make some phone calls as I did and you will come to realize that you have zero clue as to what you were talking about when it comes to hauling a 16K lb, 40 ft boat some 1300+ miles and that was BEFORE the recent hike in fuel prices.
I don't think that is a bad price for what you are getting...Seems to be in fairly good shape.
Neat boat. Probably the only sail boat that might work doing the Great Loop.
My thought exactly!
@@willybones3890 I wasn't sure if it was too big for the locks on the Great Loop. I'm not sure how big a boat they can handle. All that mast sticking out past the stern when it's down could be problematic jockeying it around in a tight spot as well.
@@mojoneko8303 I follow some TH-camrs who bought a boat specifically to do the Great Loop and it's bigger than this one in every dimension (when the mast is down).
@@mojoneko8303 Locks are HUGE!
You can almost feel Bolgers presence.
Another thing that you keep forgetting to mention is the numbers inscribed into the bulkhead for instance in this video above the water tank that number is the USCG Documentation number and class; that information tells the potential buyer that it is a Documented vessel and when parked in another state there are no taxes due on said vessel being a USCG boat.
Thank you beautiful
Nice boat, hope Randi and the baby are great .
I really wish you pointed your camera in that space housing the generator in the aft cabin. Since its only on one side i am confused as to weather its housed in the hull or some thing just hanging off the back?
Do you mean the AC unit hanging off the aft of the ship? Or was there an actual generator mounted somewhere that I did not see? Have a time-stamp?
There was a couple who spent winters in the Bahamas on a boat that they could ground for the evening...no rocking to sleep....seemed an idyllic way to spend time away from the crowded anchorages...especially now with Lithium batteries/solar panels/water makers etc...they wrote articles for Cruising World ..anyway..this would be a perfect boat for a relaxing way to spend time in slim water ....messing about with boats...
That would be a nice UK east coast Thames estuary cruiser.
Nice
You missed the flip-out pilot berths behind main sitting. That was a fun part.
Interesting boat! On my twenty foot pocket yacht my mast is down between sails. She also has a retractable keel which, when up looks the way this boat looks all the time. Plus I'm half Dutch! My boat, however, is 100% Nova Scotia, Canadian. : - )
PS - Are you guys going to be at the US Sailboat Show in October? I was able to meet you both at the 2019 show.
We're not quite sure. If anything, I (Jordan) might go solo. I'm looking at the options now.
I think it was Bolgers take on the ‘Meadowlark’ by herreshoff
Looks like value for a professional build boat , originally anyway. And fiberglass hull! That I don’t think you mentioned .
The hull is airex cored fiberglass ;)
Not ideal for a couple, however it is a quite interesting design. Thanks for showing a uniquely designed sailboat.
Nice Cat-Ketch stored to the port side. It looks like a Freedom 30+, if I were to guess.
Not at all.
Wath touring a privatere 37? Had a rather well hnown one for some years. Rebuilt it due to the state of the boat. Made new interior new el new mecanic new portlights new sails new stering new bow thruster new outside painting. Name of the boat was Hagaard. Kenner boats was building great boats. Scooner rig is really easy to sail one person.
When the mast is stepped, how much rain or wave water runs down the mast into the bilge? When the mast is horizontally stowed, the square hatch does not seem to cover the semi-circular indent for the mast. Same question about rain/wave water. Where is the boom when the mast is horizontally stowed?
You might want to try and get a copy of Different Boats, ch. 27 for a full write-up on it.
Must be a gasket or skirt to go round mast. To have it go w/out would be a disaster.
@@campesinoverdado7788 It's almost certainly a free flooding bow compartment. Bolger put these on many boats. Water comes in, water goes out.
Agree with the Dutch influence!
Massachusetts' boat builders Edey and Duff (Mait Edey and Peter Duff) should be recognized and remembered for the build quality of nearly 150 Stone Horse Sloops, dozens of Sakonnet 23, Fatty Knees Dingys and a few other "experimental" one-offs built from the late 1970's to the early 1990's. For accuracy, Edey and Duff Boats is pronounced E-D and Duff, not Ed-E and Duff.
Cheers.
What a cool boat. Always like a center line sink. Better when underway on either tack.
I feel like that aft tech room may have originally been designed as a bathroom. Kind of threw me a bit when I first saw it, as I was expecting a head.
Going by what would seem to be the original plans ( sailboatdata.com/sailboat/bird-of-dawning ) the centerline sinks are not original, and would appear to be a modification made by the owner. Most of the galley has been altered, in fact. The aft tech room, on the other hand looks pretty much as it does in the plans, and seems to never have been a head/bathroom.
@@Garryck-1 I recently purchased the original Bird of Dawning and the sink is also on centerline and there is no room attached to the aft cabin. Instead, the "tech room" you see in this video is but open space in the engine compartment. My boat also has access to the chain locker through a forward bulkhead/hatchway.
@@glutenfreegam3r177 - Good to know.. thanks! And congrats on getting such a cool boat!
@@Garryck-1 thanks mate! It's going to be an adventure getting her back in the water but I will make the best of it! Be on the lookout for regular updates on the restoration process over at the new Bird of Dawning TH-cam channel I recently created. Will be posting there soon. Cheers! 🍻
@@glutenfreegam3r177 - Subscribed! And yeah, looking at the pic in the banner, you've got a lot of work ahead of you!
Very busy. Be interesting to see a take on this using lithium ion solar heat pump Tesla AI tech...all traler-able and testable for power us by a Tesla Cybertruck of course. Already powerboat design is being revolutionized by a kind of *"fly by wire"* hydrofoil ("Candela") so how that might wind up being applied to under sail optioned motor yachting as not a one off but serial production matter give new meaning to the term *"hyper-miling"* would be an understatement.
An odd boat, but odd can be good sometimes! I wonder why he didn't just put a center board in the middle rather than the two wingy-dingies. Those little dog ears would make me nervous in rough seas. Did you ever find out what that little stainless smoke stack on deck was from?
It appears the heater inside was not shown but appeared to part of the kitchen bench being just next to the sink. I was also looking for it.
Would of been neat to see some pictures with the mast up and sailing.
That room you refer to as a technical room in the Aft Cabin should be turned into a Master Bathroom. Actually, it might have been a bathroom at one time.
I own the 1st Bird of Dawning and on my boat, that space is attached to the engine compartment. There is no attached room in the aft cabin.
Very different. Kinda weird but butch boats have folding masts so why not. Might be practical for some.
This boat could also do all canals and ICW in USA and probably Canada.
I'd imagine it would be like sailing a mobile home with a nice motor.
what us the shinny cylinder in the main cabin right side tec room ?
Hot water heater.
What kind of fuel for the stove, propane or alcohol?
How the hell do you steer a worm gear setup? Especially docking have to side hand it.
Just as you would any other boat with a helm...steer left for port and right for starboard.
My two cents: make all that room one big wet head, and the bed on the cabin gotta be king, during passage sleep on sitting area to be ready to jump on deck, and at anchor big bed to rest.
Solid advice
Interesting.
Bullworks are low. 😲... And where was the generator? Did I miss it?
There would have to be a mechanical method for raising/lowering the mast, for me to be interested in this boat.
JIM
I believe this mast is raised/lowered using a powered winch ;)
8:24 what are the numbers in the boat? Iv seen them before on other boats
The numbers inscribed into the bulkhead, for instance in this video above the water tank, that number is the USCG Documentation number and class; that information tells the potential buyer that it is a Documented vessel and when parked in another state there are no taxes due on said vessel being a USCG boat.
You should tour a seaward
You gotta be Dutch to like a boat like this.
Motorsailer is a bit unfair. As designed sa/disp is above 20 and disp/length is in the lighter range. The leeboards can be very effective. She could sail very well. Given her unique features.
where is the boat? close to the ICW?
Stuart Florida area
Someone put some thought into this boat for sure
Where is she located?
Where is the pricing and contact information?