You Probably Haven't Seen This INCREDIBLE Catamaran Yet [Full Tour] Learning the Lines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 2021
- The Vision 444 is a brand new to the market performance cruising catamaran in the mid-40 foot range that I believe is a strong competitor to what's currently out there. Built in South Africa, she's not only pretty, practical, livable, and sailable, but she is also very competitively priced at a $689,000 base price.
Let me know what you think in the comments below.
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I sat here looking at the tiny thumbnail for this video in my "watch later" playlist thinking "why does that look so familiar?" before finally realizing, "OH!, Kon Tiki!!!! YAAAASSSSSS"
So glad to see new footage of the 444! It's #1 on my list, aside from a fully custom design. As much as I love Seawind, and am looking forward to seeing the 1370, I feel like Vision is just more open to customer customization. A lot of that boat's design has come from customer ideas that they incorporated into the design of the boat. For instance the side boarding platforms were a change made for a disabled customer that they decided was a great feature and incorporated it into the boat moving forward. They are also very accommodating when it comes to things like that boom furling main, electric motors rather than diesels, etc...
A couple of notables:
Some of those "access panels" you pointed out are actually more storage, for instance you missed the live bait well in the cockpit next to the Port side step up. and the tall vertical panel is storage for things like shore cables and what not.
The pantry in Kon Tiki was a customer customization. Normally the port aft head utilizes that space for the shower area.
The utility locker in the port hull that you pointed out is also present on the starboard hull. All of the boats major components and through hulls are located in those compartments for ease of access.
All wires and hoses are routed through conduits to reduce the need to fish things through hard to reach spaces
The solar panels are mounted in such a way that you can fold them over when you need to access the boom.
The hulls are built with 18 water tight compartments, rather than a bilge so if you hit something and it breaches, only the impacted compartment(s) flood.
Those side access doors can hold, IIRC 500kg, so are quite robust!
Gone with the Wynns actually has a short factory tour and talk with the owner of Vision. They talk a little bit about the customer customizations and what not.
The vision yachts channel has a multi-part walkthrough of Kon Tiki that goes pretty in depth into the features of this boat.
Thanks for some more information 😊
I think this is the best catamaran that I have ever seen. Need to save more money
I was equally impressed. Beautiful layout, thoughtful design, and price point. Great tour, thanks Jordan...and Morgan. ;-)
Thanks for introducing us to Morgan, Jordan! Great tour of a fabulous cat...I can see this as a very comfortable live-aboard. Good to see a boat manufacturer adding plenty of solar, straight from the factory.
AND Lithium Ion is standard (625AHr @ 24v)
This is one of the nicest cats you guys have toured, so awesome!
This is the nicest Catamaran for size I have ever seen. Thanks for taking the time to show it.
Thank you Jordan for showing this palace of boat. Morgan is a beautiful baby. Good idea getting her interested in boats now. Take care and keep us up to date on more boats. My best to Randi.
Holy cow that thing is stunning it's amazing how new yachts like this are doing so many of things many sailors have been wanting for years. What dream this boat would be to live on and sail pretty much wherever you want to take her...
I think this boat moved to my number one position for dream catamaran
Really loved this cat
Loved the forward facing nav station
Really bright below decks
wide decks
The perfect boat for me
Thank you for the tour
Way to go dad! I like how you can work with your daughter in tow. Your Multitasking rocks Well done!
Beautiful and functional...loved it
Awesome boat! It's nearly as nice as our brand new house!! And Capt. Morgan is absolutely adorable!!!
That's a neat boat. Thanks for showing it.
So new drinking game .. every time a door/drawer is open … take a sip …
Nice boat and a great tour !
I’ve watched dozens if not hundreds of boat tours. This is it! When we buy our cat this is the video I will prove to the builder. Great job. Voice over is good too!
Great minds think alike...
Oh what a beautiful little girl your Morgan is! She was a good but quiet tour assistant and we are so happy she came along! The cat was almost over built but oh so wonderfully appointed?
What a fantastic boat. I absolutely love the layout and the beautiful, classy décor and materials utilized. I think you've sold me on a catamaran...now I just need the "boatload" of $$$ to purchase it!
One of the best place to live for the adventurous life. I am totally in love with the facilities n to have a small group of people with a really nice trip n vacation to sail for a short period of time..
Hi Jordan, Great tour (much more concise than ours and would love some feedback on ours from you). We've been doing our research on this boat for a while, so we learned a lot and couldn't help but share it all. She sails well, however, we're used to a monohull with a genoa and this has a jib, which seems small in comparison. During our test sail, there were about 12 people on the boat and the sails were far from perfectly trimmed and she got up to and maintained 8 kts quickly. BTW, we love the thoughtfulness that went into this boat as well and the workroom and nav station are indeed great. I'm expecting you will see more videos from us in the future that feature this boat...
Beautiful boat! Beautiful Morgan!
Very impressed! Incredible for a 44ft boat!
I'm impressed!
Wow that is a beautiful boat and for only 44 feet seems to have much more room I think I’m gonna add it to my bucket list
it's a catamaran. that's like getting TWO boats so of course it's huge.
Incredible!
Very, very nice!
a lot of nice features that were not mentioned. this would be a great layout for my family.
This is a nice catamaran
Nice to see the baby to
Love the design of that boat
I'd like to see camera shots down the side of the boats from the dock on future vids. The side profile and water line would be cool to see for a wholistic view
Baby Morgan is precious. Goodness gracious dios mio.
Impressive, very very impressive.
Nice tour. I love the forward cockpits on Leopard. To me, it’s hard for cats of similar size and price to compete. At anchor the forward cockpit is where the breeze is. Backed into a marina, that’s where the privacy is.
I prefer access to the engines to be thru the deck, so the mess of fluids, tools, extension cords is not in your cabin.
You are right about grab rails. For live aboard and passages, you probably want grab rails and an armrest/rail on the outside of the helmsmen’s seat.
I’m surprised there is no small storage next to the bed in the owners cabin.
The saloon seemed nice.
Thanks again!
very impressive layout.
Beautiful boat! I was commented on the much needed handrail right when you said it. Add the versahelm setup from the balance 526 and its a perfect boat
Very nice!
Oh wow.... I want this boat. My favorite cat so far.
Love this cat and little baby
Would be nice to see a test sail. Congratulations on your beautiful baby, Morgan!
Truly amazing design! Possibly the best interior layout in this category. Antares 44 has a strong competitor!
Liked this too!
I'm glad it's built in south 🇿🇦
That is a beautiful lady just seeing what they have put into the 40 just imagine what would the 50 look like I'd love to do a world tour on this very well thought out boat great job mate on making your viewers drool
That’s a great boat. I’m not sure which cabin I would take as a owner. So beautiful.
Great presentation! I loved the boat. Will surely be looking over it from now on. In my percepton I´d like to see more noise isolation under those aft births. But thats a detail that can be solved if needed. Great and smart layout. Well done Vision Yachts!! I may have lost info regarding rudders, keels etc. Great video
We were really worried about this too, but it is surprisingly quiet underway. Since she is so light, 37 HP motors move her fine and generate less noise.
Very nice.
@Learning the Lines *_ We South Africans do build great Cats..... Vision, Leopard, Knysna and St. Francis _*
Ja nee boet, I've been saying this for years, but I don't like the helm station being open outboard at dech level, daingeraaas😂😂😂
Don't forget Nexus and Exquisite
@On A Mission It is a pontoon boat, nice for rivers, but why the mast. In a following sea, the wave scoops would wet the inside easily.
Shame you can’t do politics..
Awesome boat! Cute Baby too!
Great boat, I love big catamarans. And the price is less than I expected.
Wow, last time I saw your channel was when you were giving away your boat, a year ago, and you had just announced the pregnancy. Glad to hear Randi and baby Morgan are doing well.
Solar modules instead of stupid cushions, very good!
Btw. I love this cat.
Looks like a very nice catermaran
impressive
Morgan is so cute. His first in your 👍🏽 teach them young ❤️🥰
This Cat is a very nice looking live aboard sail boat. Needs hand rails outside along the saloon walk way. I did like the 3 bathrooms as it affords guests or family members the privacy we all want when nature calls at the same time. Maybe the boat could have another freezer for long range sailing? Thanks for the tour of this sail boat, it's nice.
For me, the best surprise was the inward facing window in the guest shower. Loved that touch.
It's an escape hatch.
This was a great tour and I agree about no handrails on the coach roof.
While I entirely agree that handrails should be there, he missed that there is a strap there for clipping onto that can be used as a grab.\
@@FlesHBoX It's possible the underside of the coachroof can be used as a handrail, if it's designed for that. Some boats have that as a deliberate design feature.
The black webbing on the coachroof and deck is called a jackline. When wearing a safety harness, it's clipped into the jackline when moving on the foredeck, typically in bad weather, dark/twilight/etc. Because the jackline needs to be slack enough to allow some movement, for example up to the sails, it would probably be too loose to use as a hand hold.
@@LoanwordEggcorn yes, Jackline... I can never remember that name for some reason, lol.
On the vision yachts channel he talks about the jacklines, and they appear to be fairly suitable for a handhold. Not sure about having a grab on the underside of the coachroof, I don't believe he mentions it in the walkthrough on the vision channel.
@@LoanwordEggcorn Yes, the underside is designed as a continuous grab point. Very clean, just not obvious without feeling around for it.
@@OnANewTack Thanks much! Good to know, and good feature.
Also a very unobtrusive yet logical and intuitive way to do a grab rail.
There's often an overhang at the coachroof; why not design it as a hand hold.
Pretty impressive boat. 2 concerns for me are the engines under the beds, curious how loud they are if trying to sleep on passage as well as concerns about fumes in the bedroom space. Also, that forward locker is going to fill up real quick with sails since the port side one is dedicated to a bathroom so I can't imagine you'd be able to walk around in their much if you're stuffing sails down there.
I really like this boat. It would suit me and my wife for size and handling. The overhanging cabin top shades the ports. That is an excellent feature for a tropical use boat in that it cuts down on the greenhouse interior solar heating. You missed showing the transom scoops and the dingy arrangement. Two other things that were not essential to know but would have been interesting were the cabin roof cutouts. The portside cutout did not appear to have a slider that would close it off then allow the side curtain to match with the others. Or at least you did not show it. On the helm station side, does the weather curtain go all the way down to the deck? I did not see any attaching hardware down there. On the two bow seats, they should have arm rests on the forward side to prevent people from falling forward and off the boat and frankly, under the hulls and into the props. You are absolutely correct about having hand rails on the cabin top along the port and starboard walkways. I think having the corner of the TV right at head level in the nav station is a bad idea. Those things are easily fixable at minimal costs, so I am generally very impressed. This would certainly be a great coastal cruiser. It might be a good blue water cruiser, but you did not address tankage, range or how well it sails in light air or heavy seas. But, yours was not a technical evaluation. You show the general boat and if people are interested in more, they will contact the factory or a dealer. Very good job.
As a tall guy, my head would constantly hit the TV when I lean back in that nav station. I think a better layout would have the navsta forward port with an office chair and refers/freezers stbd aft against the bulkhead (ie, swap them).
Hard to tell but did not look like a lot of bridgedeck clearance. Very nice boat otherwise and SA builders know cats.
Preparing for your "Bring you child to work day 2021" :-)
I agree it is the best nav. station I have seen. It is it's own.
why ? you have no visibility except forward, and you'd bump your head against that tv placed above it...
@@donaldvanvliet9039 love you
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What is your opinion regarding the in boom or in mast furlers? It makes short handed passages and day sails a lot easier, not to mention reefing. But are they a sorce of problems and maintenance? What is the keel and rudder configuration on this cat?
TKS!
Parabéns 🇧🇷
Very nice boat. No waisted or empty space. Very good layout. Previous Nautitech generation had a similar location nav station, not the current one. Only draw back I saw was the location of the generator. Not easy to maintain in the small cramp space. With enough solar, lithium batteries and dual alternator (which I saw) on main engine, you might not need it. I love the engine access but would hate the smell of diesel in the cabin. Thanks for the tour.
Fans in engine rooms vent out so no diesel smell yet. You are correct you will not likely need a generator depending on your energy needs.
I don't think the size of the generator room comes across well on videos (though please check out my video review!). I was able to sit in there (with fenders removed) and the hatch could be closed above me.
The Last Forward Locker Would Make a Good Work Shop - Tool Room.
Cool! Caotain Morgan was aboard.😎
Wow, lovely boat!! More expensive than equivalent Leopard though.
WOW, WOW, WOW!
I thought the LAGOON 44 was my favorite CAT. Not any more. This is about as nice as it gets for that price.
Before the tour was over I was guessing this was close to a million in price.
That’s an amazing CAT! Wish I had the funds.
They would have been better served to create an aft solar arch away from any shadows from the main sail and rigging. I foresee a huge drop in solar efficiency on their current locations.
Yer, the best!
1. Bow locker in owner's hull needs a deck hatch. Same for portside forward head
2. I'd rather have the guest forward berth than the owner's aft
3. I would prefer induction over gas stove, some people might want gas but I'm not sure who wants both. What's the brand of the cooktop? looks really nice
Great boat. Love the layout although I think the VIP over the bridge deck I would like much better as a master berth. Although I loved the master head and walk in closet! Lots to like. Not a big fan of the two climb in berths, especially in the master.
So nice. The fact it under 1mil is surprising...
Dream boat
Just FYI to the builder: beds NEED a walk around! Especially if its the master cabin.
This is a performance cat.
Ik ben samen met mijn vrouw, aan het kijken naar boten.
We hebben allebei ervaring op een monohol. Dus kijken eigenlijk meer naar een Bavaria 55/57.
Maar deze Cat ziet er ook heel goed uit. Als mooi en makkelijk bereikbaar, zoals de motoren.
Greetings from Spakenburg The Netherlands Gerben T and Gabriëlle.
Sweet considering the possibility of diy building.
THAT BOAT IS HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks very much for the tour! Wasn't really sure what to think of the Vision 444 when I first saw it, but liking it more all the time.
Definitely like all the storage and enclosable cockppit/aftdeck, but would probably stick with the original separate port aft shower instead of the pantry option.
Would like to know how it sails. Sail plan looks a bit small, but as you note the quoted 9 ton lightship displacement is pretty light.
It's possible the overhanging underside of the coachroof could be used as a handrail. Depends how it's designed.
Be sure to check out the new Balance 442 also. First hulls are being built now, and the price and size of these and the Seawind 1370 are about the same. Balance is arguably more performance oriented, especially with daggerboards, but still very cruisable.
I think I like the Balance design, layout, details, finishes best, in addition to the higher performance potential.
Fantastic design. It should give the other brands a run for the money.
Loved that floor plan... I think on a live aboard it’s important to have both outdoor and useable indoor space and she has it both. Was that one a “base” spec?? If not what was the price (Ish) on that one as she sits ?? BTW your baby girl was awesome, can’t believe you did most of that with her strapped on. That’s just fantastic
Someone said you could easily double price from a "naked" boat to spec it out. This seems to be loaded plus a few. My guess would be 1.75. Curious for sure though.
Looking at a sales agreement from November, their "optional Extras" are;
watermaker
screacher with furler
asym with snuffer
nav station electronic repeaters
ice maker
10kva genset
2x aircon
washing machine
additional plotter
plotter 12" upgrade
hayrack boom (standard is stackpack)
Furling boom
a few different mainsail options
Underwater lights
This document does not include options like electric motors rather than diesels, which is a specific option listed on the vision site.
If you were to get every upgrade on this list it would bring up the price from 689 to close to $850k. Then of course there are the import duties and taxes, delivery (assuming you don't pick it up in Knysna yourself), which would push it pretty close to a million I suspect (I think SA fortunately gets really low import duty fees in the US, which is nice).
1.75m is REALLY high, but I don't doubt it is possible, though that would be more a result of extensive customization and non-price list upgrade options. For instance, the side boarding platforms were originally a customization made for a disabled customer. That customer probably ended up paying extra for them because they required custom design work, however Vision liked them enough to incorporate them into all future boats as a standard feature.
Currently 689k base with maybe 10 options? The standard inventory is impressive compared to other brands. Check it out.
BTW - there are no import duties on South African boats coming to the US due to a trade agreement.
@@amymichaud9657 Yeah, I am actually pretty decently impressed with Vision's lack of "options", meaning things like curtains, cushions, and things that should just be included, lol.
And yeah, I actually saw a day or two ago while looking into something else that the African Growth and Opportunity Act had been extended last year or the year before. Great news for SA boat builders (and Africa in general of course)!
10:02 "and of course here in the guest cabin on the bed, the customary bleached skull of a dead animal as you would expect."
Just such a random thing on a boat 🤣
Country of origin souvenir.
Captain Morgan on deck!
I want to see how the bed sheets are changed in these boats, looks super hard to do.
Adorable baby. Nice boat. Weirdest bed decoration.
Nice boat but I wonder what would need to be added to make it a true crossing oceans vessel. Morgan is a little cutie pie!
She came over on her own bottom from South Africa to the US - she IS a true ocean sailing vessel as is - of course with some of the artwork and decor stowed :)
The Saffas are taking the lead in Cat builds!!
Was there ladder access into that nice bow locker? Seems like a pain to haul gear all the way through the boat but maybe more of a pain climbing up or down through a small hatch...
Overall, seems like a really nice layout. I just wish I could experience it...
It's not really meant as a bow locker. The owner of Vision designed it as a workshop, having a dedicated to store spares and work on things. There is an opening hatch above, but I believe it's only a 40cm. That being said, Vision is incredibly open to customization for owners, so you could have them install a larger opening hatch there if you wanted. Hell, they would probably turn that space into pretty much anything you want, as long as the changes don't impact the structure.
Love that they used as little wood as possible.
And the wood they use is a reconstructed oak veneer. If a panel is damaged they can replace it with a new one that will match the rest perfectly. They are also oiled, not varnished, so it's easier to clean them up (I think they even include a citrus cleaning spray that you can use, as well as additional oil) and repair any staining.
Beautiful boat. Construction seems to be well done. I am curious about the price of the one you toured.
Given the options onboard, based on the price sheet I got from sailaway back in November, I'd guess around 850
Beautiful condo cat.
Really nice layout on that one. Missing a few things I like to see, as mentioned grab rails is one of them. Was that the base model?
I agree that the grab rails on the coach roof would be nice, however there is a strap there for clipping onto that can also be used as a grab. He just missed it in the video.
You can actually grab unto the underside of the fiberglass overhang for a solid grip. Not as obvious as a SS grab rail, but if you know it is there it works well.
@@OnANewTack Good to know! I see you have a couple nice long videos on the 444. Totally gonna check those out! I love this boat.
@@FlesHBoX Thanks, I couldn't bring myself to cut anything, so yeah, they are way too long. Please do check them out and let me know if you have any follow-ups. We love this boat as well!
Being a 44 really impressive
I know Morgan is with you, however, please do work on video stabilization. I've mentioned this before. I suggest you examine some professional travelogues from the 60's and 70's. I'm including a link to one, below. It has plenty of motion, but it's slow and smooth, which lets the viewer actually focus on the contents instead of trying to counter rough motion. I suggest a tripod, and if that's a problem setting up in a boat, then at least use a monopod. I have a monopod to which I attached a bullhorn extension for a bicycle off to the side about a foot below the camera mount. That gives me three wide points in a plane, which provides for excellent stability, great panning stability and modest tilt capability.
I think it needs to be tested first, just in case, early models could have all kind of issues compared to the tested ones. I am talking about owners crossing oceans etc.
Probably my favorite so far. Those front mounted escape hatches me made a little nervous for some reason. I'm sure they're absolutely fine; they know what they're doing when they design these things. Just looks weird having it there.
Would like to see how she sailed across the Atlantic, it looks nice but how is the build quality and sail ability?
Across the Atlantic? Better go when there's no wind.
I too am impressed but how BLUE is it. how big are the fuel tanks what kind of watermaker does it have what's the storage capacity . Can you run all the halliards and sheets to the cockpit or do you have to get up on deck to raise the Sails? What kind and where are the batteries how big is the generator? A lot of questions, But is it ready to sell from Panama to Australia?
And your baby is adorable looking.
Fuel tanks are pretty large, but I forget the exact capacity. EVERYTHING is run to the helm station. If you get the boom furling main, the only time you have to go up the mast is to move the "targa-top-like" sun protection from the boom. The line on starboard side of the mast retracts it and the one on port pulls it back over the mainsail.
Batteries are a super quality 24V 625A-hr Lithium Ion as *standard* and the generator is a 24V, 10KW DC generators which is way more efficient to charge the batteries from. Everything can be run from the house bank. The boat in the video sailed over from SA to FL and it is true bluewater. Please check out our review and feel free to ask any follow-ups.