Super Accurate Simple Crosscut Sled
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Today we’re building a super accurate and simple crosscut sled. This crosscut sled is easy for any skill level of table saw user and takes advantage of my recently released Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block. I am going to be releasing a few videos on crosscut sleds. Let me know which sled you’d like me to do next. The best way to support the channel is to head over to the bit.ly/KatzMosesStore and pick up a stop block, magnetic dovetail jig, plans or some merch. Thanks for watching! More importantly, thank you for your support. It truly means the world to me. Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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Have you found a good matching miter bar in red?
Jonathan Katz-Moses mine was just shipped! Thanks for the great products. I use the dovetail jigs all the time and they work great. I did mess up one from bringing the saw to high and scoring it lol but I used a razor blade to trim off the parts protruding and that did the trick.
Would you make one to sell to me?
Just ordered your stop-block for my first sled build attempt.
Question, do you do moisture testing on your lumber / the hard woods
Will your stop work with Kreg's top trak and measuring tape?
I decided to build a new and similar sled. My old sled has some limitations. I purchased the stop block. I've not finished or had a chance to use it but I received my stop block in quick fashion. It appears to be well machined and a pretty solid product. I'm not sure about the knurled knob yet, I may replace it but I'll use it for a while first. Thanks Jonathan, looks like a solid product.
Using your dovetail alignment board to “align” the t-track, well played 😁
I know I"m late to the party, but I just made this sled, and it's terrific! I'm new to the hobby, and still figuring things out, but it didn't take me long to learn that the stock miter sled on my table saw was trash. Now I'm cross cutting like a pro! Thanks!
Funny that you say at the end of the video “pick up a t-shirt, a dovetail jig, or a stop block” cause I picked up all three yesterday. Very excited to rebuild my crosscut sled with this awesome stop block.
Ordered a stop block last week and boom message couple of days later, it's on its way. That's efficiency at its best
We try. Thanks bud!
I just ordered mine. Thanks Jonathan, I really enjoy your content.
I live in France and was intrigued by your products.
Just ordered your No Deflection stop Block after watching both 3x3 Tamar and your video for cross cut sleds. Ordered her plans, bought some wood yesterday so now waiting for all to arrive and start building.
Thank you for putting out your videos. I always learn a lot!
Wow, great idea and thx to Moe for inspiring you to come up with and give this try. Will definitely tuck this idea away for a try one day!
Thanks for sharing. I will be picking up one of your stop blocks!!
Nice build. I built one with two runners and I use it a bit but I can see this one being more useful for the things I do most often.
Looking forward to building this. Ordered the no deflection stop this morning.
Nice design....this is perfect if the sled is on the non-stacking side of the blade...quick dados and tenons.
Making my first sled. Definitely going to go buy your stop. Thanks!
Happy to see you chewing up that push stick! :) Nice video as usual, Jonathan, and congrats on 100k!
Thanks so much brother!
I actually recently switched to a one sided sled like the one rockler sells. Making one for the other side without a fence is great to catch your cut piece and also to put other jigs on with carpet tape 👍🏼
Great addition for sure
Really good job - once again. Really appreciate your time and effort in putting out such great content.
So happy I finally have the chance to put this video to use, thanks Jonathan!
Just made my first ever sled, this was simple even for a noob like myself, thanks for the tips!
Great video, Jonathan! You made it so simple!
Love this sled. Now I only need 10 of your stop blocks...lol. Awesome stop block. Love it
Love the video! Thanks!
bravo! Well done video and nice sled!
Just ordered a stop block, great videos keep it up man!
Awesome stuff! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Excellent video and process
Simple
Accurate
Thank you for sharing
"I highly recommend getting a stop block, even if it's not mine (sad face)" lol, I'll be ordering one, I've been in need of a cross cut sled, but every jig I've seen was too much and my shop is really small, yours is precise and compact, exactly what I need.
Thanks man, I hope it turns out to be a best seller.
Cheers!
Hahaha true but sad face hahaha
I really like how you explain things as you go., and easy to follow instructions. Great video.
Liked and subscribed
Ordered my stop block today! Can't wait to get it to work!!
Holy cookies... just got my shipping notice. Nice work!!!
I made my tapering jig like this while back HDPE works great in place of the hardwood
Just ordered 2 stop blocks and the blast gates plans! Amazing!
Thanks bud! The ol' suck and stop order. I see you 😉
Thanks-great video! I’m going to build one.
I learn so much and get great ideas from your channel and with your knowledge and expertise it has advanced my woodworking ten fold. Thanks for showing us another way to build a sled.
Means a lot bud! Thank you
Great looking jig and sled. Coming home this Friday and will be ordering one ..good stuff as always Jonathan
Thanks Joe!
My current sled is shaking, and he can see his last day coming soon. Def needing to make this one soon!
Great video, I kinda want to remake my cross cut jig after watching this lol
Your stop block is awesome. I have one already because I volunteer and teach classes at the 50+ Center woodshop. Of course, it's on a cross cut sled. I'll be purchasing another several (3 or 4 I think), because I need to make jigs for my home shop. BTW, I've seen several videos by other folks here on ye ole TH-cam and they use your block as well ;)
I'm not sure why I never even thought about extending the fence past the blade to keep pushing the offcut... simple and perfect
5-cut method isn’t for lack of a reference surface. You can put a 1/8 strip of wood in the kerf of a normal sled and use that as a reference. 5 cut gets you dialed in much more than a square can. I use a known accurate square to align my fences when I first attach them to my sleds. They always end up moving after 5 cuts.
I don't get why everyone insists on using hardwood for the runner. I've tried this and have had issues with wood movement. I went to plywood and I couldn't be happier. It's dimensionally stable throughout the year and super easy to batch out a bunch of them once you dial it in perfectly. Yeah it may dent or chip over time and use, but never along the whole length simultaneously and never had it bind or become loose. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm happy as a pig in ..... Well you know.
I use UHMW Plastic which is very slick and not susceptible to movement either.
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking Thats a great option too. I never seem to have any handy when I suddenly decide I need to make a jig. But I agree.
@@brett328 I keep a couple of wide strips around - it's great material for auxiliary fences as well.
@@brett328 Walmart uhmw plastic cutting board. Very cheap and you can get like 6 pairs of runners
@@KeithJohnsonCustomWoodworking cheap dollar store cutting plastic board works makes plenty of runners
In Europe most of semi-pro to pro versions of table saws have their own sliding table, but also with T-track:)
Excellent
Got one in yesterday. Probably order another.
Nice video! As always, I enjoy the effort you put into the total production.
Any idea when we might be seeing those additional videos you alluded to (@10:35)?
The preferred Japanese method for cutting aluminum👍😂. Thanks for the video, I love the channel!
I bought your stop block and it is amazing how nice it works!!!
Awesome!
i dont have to worry about the aluminum track with my saw like you do a SawStop....my Dewalt does't stop for tracks, staples, nails, fingers, or anything else....
Ordered your stop block.
If that method truly is accurate for square, I have an idea. Make the right side of your crosscut sled just like you did here but have a full width fence. Square the fence up as shown, then make the left side with a second runner. Butt the left side up against the right side (blade down) to glue on the left runner. Attach the fence to the left side, then raise your blade and cut the kerf width off the left side of the base. Does that work?
That's a damn good idea!
Yes that totally works, Mattias Wandel did a video building a sled this way.
I was just thinking the exact same thing myself after watching the video and then scrolled down to the comments to see if someone had thought of that as well, and here we are.
same here
Just had the same thought.
I can’t believe you only have 112k odd subscribers. Your content is so professional and genuinely really good. Keep up the great work. Huge fan!
Thanks bud!
Nice work! That is a nice stop block! Lots of good tips for my next one! Do you ever have issue with the hardwood runners swelling and getting tight?
I am in the process of making this sled. I just purchased your stop block and it's awesome. I do have an issue with gluing down the fence. Once it's glued and you find it's off a tad, your project is trash. I prefer to use two-sided tape and screws. If I make any mistake with the accuracy, I don't end up throwing away this project. Once it's glued, your screwed.
I really like that sled. Been a little intimidated about building one. But I think the full sled would work better. So I'll wait to see what your next sled vid is. One thing I would like to see......incorporating tape measure either on the fence or along the track somewhere.
Yeah this should really be titled "half sled". Took me a minute to figure out
I noticed you snatched your hand back when you started cutting. When you're used to cutting with a full width sled, both hands are naturally away from the blade.
Great Vid Jonathan!
I’ve gone back and forth with all the gazillion versions of CCS out there and this one seems the most convenient to build.
Thanks for the build and instructional! I’ll be buying your stop block for sure!
Btw: I just honestly think your voice sounds almost exactly the same as Jimmy Kimmel’s.
Every time I watch your videos I think: is this #JimmyKimmel doing a WW spoof?
😉
That Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block looks pretty neat, I must say. I think I might pick up a Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block when I get a suitable table saw that isn't a huge pile of junk. Although no doubt there will be a Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block V2 by that point in time. It's pretty cool to see woodworkers selling their own products that they have designed as there was nothing suitable on the market that met their needs. I hope we see more products like the Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block in the future. You should probably come up with a more catchy name though, as Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block doesn't really role off the tongue and has also made this post 5 times longer than it probably needs to be. Still though, I looke forward to picking up a Katz-Moses Universal No Deflection Stop Block in due time.
>Anything you have laying around your shop. Yeah - - - I got nuthin.
John I really enjoy your videos. Your presentation along with your skill is impeccable. Please keep it up. As for your inventions I congratulate you incredibly. I am also an inventor with products on the market there is no better feeling than having an idea and making it a reality. I have a few ideas that I am working on in the wood working industry that I will share with you confidentially when I get closer to completion. Take care and be well. UPWARD AND ONWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't wait to see what you create bud
très beau
UHMW strips for the runners. More stable than wood, they just fit. If you need to, you can get the perfect fit in the slots under the panel buy shimming them in or out when you glue the panel on. (JKM explained this in the build of his bigger crosscut sled.)
BTW Great video and I actually don't think you lose features like width of sled. I think you do the same thing as you did but run a longer fence past the cut and then just add plywood on the other side . Either attached the fence to the other half or leave sliding as support like I believe the Incra sleds do.
Got mine on Tuesday bud! Quality looks great, machining looks great, and can’t wait to remake my CCS. Love it man. Thank you!
I have made fences with three pieces of 3/4” Baltic birch, strong but heavy. The thing I do different is to cut the middle piece 3/8” shorter than the other two this leaves you a nearly perfect dado for your T track with little wood to remove.
Just watched your video on the cross cut sled, love it, as well as the no deflection stop block. Just ordered 2. My question, since I have metal runners, which I plan to use, what are your thoughts on using them instead of solid wood?
Should work as long as there's no play
Saw your other video on the stop block. I have the issue of deflection with the one I have. This is on my list to get. I can't wait to get mine. And that looks like a really simple sled. May have to make a smaller one like this. Oh... And how well does your stop fit the Kreg Precision Stop track?
Fits great. Cheers!
Nice video, noticed you didn't make a saw dust relief rebate at the base of the fence and the sled base.
Is putting dado in the sled for fences to sit in a good idea for squaring the fence? What about aluminum ribs on the non-working side of the fence for rigidity? I have a xcut sled but I'm thinking about building a better one.
I've made a few fences and easier than routing the groove for the track is to cut the center piece of ply shorter than the other two by just enough to set the track in flush. Why not? You're cutting the ply anyway, so might as well dial it in before hand.
This is great Jonathan. Just made mine and am now using your stop block. Curious why you suggested a 3 1/8" height on the fence when the stop block goes to 3.75"?
Do you ever add a slight chamfer to the fence at the base of the workpiece face to prevent sawdust from interfering with the workpiece sitting tight against the fence. Thanks for all your great videos. Looking forward to getting the stopblock. Thanks for your helping my wife with the purchase of my Christmas present apron. Love it.
As a beginner, your videos are the best and most helpful I’ve found
love it making one tomorrow like you apron where did you get it? and thank you for sharing
I think that I remember seeing the video on your mega sled build, but I can't find it now.
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Is it ok to make a Cross cut sled for a dado stack, since the zero clearance insert for my table saw is not wide enough for the dado stack. And there isn’t one for my table saw.
Question I have the same problem, if not at first then eventually probably b/c of how I store my sled but at 7:50 you can see the base of the self does not lay flat as the board is warped. Will this cause issues in your cut? I imagine it would not be square on the Y axis of the plane to the blade. I've scrapped a few sleds and started over esp on MDF ones but wondering if I really didn't need to.
nice build, thank you for sharing. A question from a novice, why not using thinner piece for the base, like 1/4in?
Nice CCS. I have purchased a couple of your Stop Blocks. I know you mentioned a few of the dimensions during the video, but could you provide the final dimensions of your sled base and fence? Thanks. And...have a Happy New Year!
Re the kind of sled we would like to see: an easy-to-make, adjustable miter sled, something like the Dubby from In-line Industries, or ones by Rockler and Incra, all too expensive; Patrick Sullivan produced a very nice one, but kind of involved.
Hey Jonathan - thanks for this. Looking forward to building this around my KM stop block with that arrived this week. Question - why do you opt for building to the right side? Is it because you are a lefty?
Surely, if you invented the door knob, you wouldn’t need to come up with all these great ideas, Jonathan? Sit back, relax and let the empire grow.
I have a small Dewalt contractor table saw. I've been looking for a small one to make. Thank you.
Question for you… could you theoretically use this method (not using the 5 cut method) to make a sled with 2 runners? For example, could I attach just the left runner first (leaving plenty overhang on my base) and then run the sled through with that runner in the right miter slot, cutting the left side of the base with my saw blade. Then square my fence to that cut and attach the right runner and then finally attach the right runner?
@katzmosestools thanks...what is the 5 cut method you spoke of please? I don't see the video
Jonathan, great video as always, but I’m wondering why you didn’t make a chamfered edge on the bottom of the fence to channel away dust? I was hoping to see that, because having the chamfered edge makes lining up the square ( 8:10 ) challenging (because the thickness of the square is thin.) Would have been interesting to see how you address that.
Also missing some steps on how to get the fence squared while attaching it! Ugh
Now something else I need to make. Did you think about running a 45 on the bottom edge of the fence to stop dust build up?
Good idea, but I bet since Jonathan's stop block doesn't sit on the sled that there's enough gap to avoid sawdust from getting between it and the piece being cut.
Agreed but couldn't hurt certainly
Couldn't hurt but like the gentleman below said not very necessary
Another good video, but of course you will need to move to an even bigger workshop if you keep making crosscut sleds. I found that as I make each new one, I have to force myself to discard an old one. I am the proud owner already of your zero deflection hold down clamp - beautiful job of design and the red color looks great. You should be able to sell a bunch of these. You have my endorsement (that and $5 will get you a cup of coffee).
Hahahaha deal
Johnathon ...bonsoir from France...want to make you new right-handed table saw sled...can you tell me why the T- track appears to be set 3/8’s of an inch or so back of the front of the sled fence rather tan flush ....am loving your stop block...it is brilliant ...JPM
Will your stop block work with some sort of permanent measuring tape? I know some of the others on the market have an adjustable "eye glass" for no measuring at all. Thanks for the great video. Keep up the great work!
Sure. You could add the tape
Looks like a nice piece of kit and now you might be able to roll some of the profit into capital improvements like say a hacksaw blade
I love the videos, I have a fairly small 10" Craftsman table saw with T track type miter slots. There are only overhangs near the front and back of the slot, not the entire length. Would you suggest using t track runners or perhaps grinding off the overhanging sections to make it an open miter?
Grind off the t-track
@@katzmosestools That is where I was leaning, thank you for your time.
Quick question: first off, I built this crosscut sled a couple of months ago and it has been an absolute lifesaver. I’m in love with it and now I rarely use my miter saw. Thank you for sharing this build! I did outfit it with a KMT stop block and grabbed some rails from your shop as well!
so I’ve recently had the need to cut some 45° miters for some very small miter joints on small work pieces, and the idea occurred to me that maybe I could modify this crosscut sled, seeing that it only uses one miter rail, if I moved the sled over to the right miter slot and set my blade for a hair shy of 45° (I have a left-tilting table saw) and cut through it down the middle of the sled for 45° cuts? I would probably put a structural fence at the back of the sled to hold the back together before making that initial cut through the sled. Is this a terrible idea? Do you have any additional thoughts or recommendations? I appreciate any guidance you may have before I go ahead and potentially destroy my beautiful sled.
Nice vid! From your experience, is a cross cut sled is do-able on low-quality table saw? The slots on mine aren't very deep and I struggle making runners that seems to hold well enough. Feels like I should build them with some kind of groove to fit the slot better, but it is too much for my actual skill level...
Yes sir. I had one for my 80 dollar ryobi
Brother I dig how you teach, I am a better woodworker for watching. Thank you
My absolute pleasure bud!
the track on my table saw does not have straight walls. There are small indentation periodically along the track. thoughts for handling this with the runners?? Also, my table saw is portable and only has one track. Is this a problem??
I am an inexperienced table saw user. I just bought one so I can start on projects and am wanting to get some accessories. I watched this video and the other video you have on the full width sled you made. You said you use this one 90% of the time. What is the advantage of making and using this one over the full larger sled? Thanks.
Hi Jonathan, Quick question. I just purchased the Kreg Top Track that takes a 1/4"-20 T-bolt. Will your stop fit that track? If so, I'd like to order one. Thanks, Mike
It will bud
This sure beats the 5-cut method. I will be making one next week. What do you think about using t-track scraps for runners? I have some that are countersunk and fit the slot perfectly.
Nice. Metal on metal doesn't sound like a great long term solution for a sled but aluminum is pretty soft so maybe it'll be ok.
What kind of plywood is best to use?
Can you tell me where you got your bit magnet at? Tried a few and wasn't totally impressed.