I think Steven Moffat said that these Doctor Who movies are in universe movies. People in Doctor Who have heard about The Doctor in history books and such and made movies about the character and their adventures.
Like everything with Moffat, that sounds like a nice idea in theory. But if you think about it for more than 2 seconds you realise it makes zero sense.
@@henryleake4697 He had it written so that Cushing was friends with the Doctor and that they took him to the future (from his perspective) to film scenes in later films (like the Star Wars film that did a CGI version of him).
@@henryleake4697 Given the nonsensical...stuff going on in any given episode of Doctor Who, people making in-universe tie-in films seems like a pointless thing to quibble over, but okay.
@@toast99bubbles That part I felt was cute. I think alot of Cushing fans dream of kidnapping the actor out of the mid/late sixties, when his career was at its least interesting, and putting him to work on their personal fantasy projects.
These are canon to the main Doctor Who Universe. In the Day of the Doctor Target Novelisation by Steven Moffat, it is confirmed that these are in-universe films made after the Doctor got talking to Peter Cushing about his adventures.
I my headcannon, the Peter Cushing Doctor is an older version of the David Tennant human meta crisis Doctor from season 4, who was left in the alternate universe.
Before Moffat made these canon, my headcanon fit them into the Whoniverse as movies made by humans, based on “fictional” stories by Ian and Barbara, after they returned from their travels with the Doctor.
You can still say it is part of The Whoniverse but it is in an alternative Whoniverse. These movies could have been going on for years and years like The James Bond movies! We were going to get a third film based on The Chase but the second film didn't do so well and that's why we only have 2.
People need to understand that the movies came out before the Doctor's first regeneration, and long before establishing that the Doctor was an alien Time Lord. As far as anyone was concerned at the time, the Doctor WAS human - but somehow had a time machine. True, the movie doesn't exactly make sense about how an earth human can create something exactly like the TARDIS (and why it has to look like a police box in an era where they were starting to disappear), but what can you do. Personally, I really enjoyed Roberta Tovey's take on Susan more than I enjoyed Carole Ann Ford - which wasn't Ford's fault since the writers quickly reduced her to a screaming ninny; one of the reasons she left the show after a year. But the remaining cast of the first film was simply uninteresting and easily forgotten. Peter Cushing's "Doctor Who" is kinda tolerable if you've never seen William Hartnell's Doctor and a poor substitute if you have. Another reviewer noted that they turned Doctor Who into somewhat of a senile fool, but didn't change what he DOES. Which makes him more of a manipulative fool than even Hartnell made his Doctor. I haven't seen the second film in many years, but I remember just thinking Cushing's Doctor Who was insufferable and very unlikeable. Roberta Tovey is the best reason to watch the movies - she was so talented for her age, and we've got Roy Castle (very annoying) in the first film, and Bernard Cribbins (better, but still a little silly) in the second. All in all, I didn't care for the movies when I saw them - many years later - and now that I am more familiar with the First Doctor, they are more unwatchable than ever. Yes, the movies were made for more of a kids audience, but I felt they talked DOWN to its audience. Doctor Who the series never did.
And the Looney Tunes back in action Dalek moment
I like the idea of the First Doctor meeting a movie producer, casually talking about Daleks and then those films were made.
I think Steven Moffat said that these Doctor Who movies are in universe movies. People in Doctor Who have heard about The Doctor in history books and such and made movies about the character and their adventures.
That was in his novelisation of The Day of the Doctor.
Like everything with Moffat, that sounds like a nice idea in theory. But if you think about it for more than 2 seconds you realise it makes zero sense.
@@henryleake4697 He had it written so that Cushing was friends with the Doctor and that they took him to the future (from his perspective) to film scenes in later films (like the Star Wars film that did a CGI version of him).
@@henryleake4697 Given the nonsensical...stuff going on in any given episode of Doctor Who, people making in-universe tie-in films seems like a pointless thing to quibble over, but okay.
@@toast99bubbles That part I felt was cute. I think alot of Cushing fans dream of kidnapping the actor out of the mid/late sixties, when his career was at its least interesting, and putting him to work on their personal fantasy projects.
Good examples of how well some of those longer serials can be edited down
I can remember seeing the Dalek Invasion of Earth movie when I was.... young, like toddler young..... I feel old now...!
I feel old too. I have seen these films so many times since I was very young. I can't believe nobody has watched them.
These are canon to the main Doctor Who Universe. In the Day of the Doctor Target Novelisation by Steven Moffat, it is confirmed that these are in-universe films made after the Doctor got talking to Peter Cushing about his adventures.
I my headcannon, the Peter Cushing Doctor is an older version of the David Tennant human meta crisis Doctor from season 4, who was left in the alternate universe.
I have very fond memories of these when I was a young boy. Reminiscing is Coolbeanz however now is better by the minute
Before Moffat made these canon, my headcanon fit them into the Whoniverse as movies made by humans, based on “fictional” stories by Ian and Barbara, after they returned from their travels with the Doctor.
You can still say it is part of The Whoniverse but it is in an alternative Whoniverse.
These movies could have been going on for years and years like The James Bond movies! We were going to get a third film based on The Chase but the second film didn't do so well and that's why we only have 2.
Not sure why you didn't mention that these two films were adaptations of two 1st DOCTOR classic stories:
THE DALEKS, and DALEKS INVASION OF EARTH.
People need to understand that the movies came out before the Doctor's first regeneration, and long before establishing that the Doctor was an alien Time Lord. As far as anyone was concerned at the time, the Doctor WAS human - but somehow had a time machine. True, the movie doesn't exactly make sense about how an earth human can create something exactly like the TARDIS (and why it has to look like a police box in an era where they were starting to disappear), but what can you do. Personally, I really enjoyed Roberta Tovey's take on Susan more than I enjoyed Carole Ann Ford - which wasn't Ford's fault since the writers quickly reduced her to a screaming ninny; one of the reasons she left the show after a year. But the remaining cast of the first film was simply uninteresting and easily forgotten.
Peter Cushing's "Doctor Who" is kinda tolerable if you've never seen William Hartnell's Doctor and a poor substitute if you have. Another reviewer noted that they turned Doctor Who into somewhat of a senile fool, but didn't change what he DOES. Which makes him more of a manipulative fool than even Hartnell made his Doctor. I haven't seen the second film in many years, but I remember just thinking Cushing's Doctor Who was insufferable and very unlikeable. Roberta Tovey is the best reason to watch the movies - she was so talented for her age, and we've got Roy Castle (very annoying) in the first film, and Bernard Cribbins (better, but still a little silly) in the second.
All in all, I didn't care for the movies when I saw them - many years later - and now that I am more familiar with the First Doctor, they are more unwatchable than ever. Yes, the movies were made for more of a kids audience, but I felt they talked DOWN to its audience. Doctor Who the series never did.
They were tieovers from the show done by Hammer
the one critique i can say about those movies is they were too colourful and in my opinion looneytunes back in action ruined them for me.
made on the same set as Oliver Twist
Oh, a reupload. My comment on the original has gone. Ah well, take another like for it though.
sorry had some issues with it, i appreciate the support 🙏
@@SaammuelWho That's fair. Thanks for the great content though.