That’s exactly what’s wrong with the industry. A bird and magic only have that value but these new players, the Wembys, ect, Hero, Trae, Chet’s, have 2-3k and above values that haven’t accomplished anything and these 2 legends are the MT Rushmore of players and saved the NBA while MJ transcended it
Totally agree dude. I mean, I like Wemby and it looks like he’ll be a great player. But what if he’s not? What if he gets injured and his career ends??! Then how much will his literally thousands of rookie cards will be worth?? His cards have completely over saturated the market to the point where people are spending $600 on crappy, unlicensed products to chase him and he’s the only card anyone cares about! It’s insane to me 🤷♂️ I just don’t get it
I can understand the hype for Wemby. He's already great. Rk: 24 EPM as a rookie. Finished with highest DPM out of any rookie past 10 years - at least - Otherwise, I get it. On the other hand, someone like Brandon Miller still has much to prove. Even though he looks promising.
Point is these guys, Larry Bird 3 championships leader of the team and magic has 5. These players and many more have won ZERO some not even a playoff game but their card value is on potential. 8 rings with these legends.
How's the price of Zion cards doing these days? I vividly recall watching a guy drop $1600 on five boxes at Kenny's Collectibles chasing his rookie cards.
I ran a printing press for 16 years. I can tell you how easy it is for defects to get through to finished product. Printed on big sheets even a piece of dust making it to one roller to the impression cylinder plate and you’ll have hickies. Easily you can have movements in the process where color dots do not align and you get off colors with cyan magenta yellow or black to be out of centering. And after printing it’s the bindery that makes the cuts on product. It’s easy for miscuts to get off centering. Even with today’s technology defects are plenty and easy to make the way to finished product. Even inks can be contaminated before entering the ink wells to the rollers. Printing is not easy.
😂😂you and my dad would get along. He printed from 1980 until about 6 years ago. He loves pointing out all the little defects on a card and explaining how that happened in the process.
@@Al-ImprovEd2022 ole time printing….the guys smoking cigars yelling down the press at the lower down the totem pole not getting the sheets to run good through the press
I remember the pure joy of opening cards when I was a kid. Now all I hear is "Wow Larry Bird!! Too bad it's not perfectly centered". It is still exciting, but nowhere near as pure fun as it was before grading came about.
@Darbobski I agree. Now it's all about how much more can I sell it for if it grades well 😞 It's not like it was in the 60's when I bought packs of cards with my allowance
Love these old classic box rips! Interesting tidbit about the regional versions of these boxes. Also, Topps apparently didn't have photogs outside of the Washington, DC, area. If you look carefully, all the photos of the player cards from 1977-1981 were taken from the old Capital Center, if you look at the players, the Bullets are wearing their home unis in the background.
My mom grew up with Bill Cartwright. He bloodied her nose accidently in elementary school while playing tetherball. I remember her telling me about how tall he was. She was friends with his sister too. Rip mom.
Nobody but Geoff could get a psa ten on any 81 card today. He is the only one, he walks it up to them they know who they are grading the card for. Just to set the tone. He must be excited
Insane how much those cards went up a few years ago. I got back into collecting about 8 years ago and the Bird PSA 10 was a $900 card and then it went up to 20-40k overnight.
Loved the 81 Basketball cards, lots of great cards in there. Even though the centering on the cards in that box is really good, I am glad I didn't spend $4,000 on that box.
not even mentioning the Gervin at 25:50, that's unfortunate. the card did, in fact, look very off center, but that's Gervin, man. Mr. Finger Roll, himself.
I would love to but the Laker cards that you don’t think would get a great grade. Looking to add them to a gram of old Laker cards and Sports Illustrated magazines.
@@FishFisher77 in fact .... The wax wrappers are of value and I see these guys just rip them apart. Modern Grifter ConMen......aka:INFLUENCER. Today's version of the "Snake Oil Salesman"
You said "Penny Sleeves". Actually we have Cents here in the U.S. No, not a PSA 9 on the Magic card. A 7 or 8 would be my best guess... looking at it online.
This is a great example of “if” you are gonna buy an old box of unopened sports cards, basketball is the only way to go because many are only 132 card sets, meaning you are MUCH MORE LIKELY to pull stars compared to a 726 card baseball set. To the degree it is a bad investment to layout a bunch of cash for a late ‘70s box of baseball is the degree it is a good investment to layout a bunch of cash for an old basketball set that has some legit high value cards in it, cuz you should get at least one. That’s 540 cards if they are 15 card packs.
I have what I believe is a very rare dragon ball z card collection. I used to put yen in machines as a child and get cards long before the dbz card game. How can I send you pics ide love to figure out how rare they really are. Ty in advance. 1991 1992 era
I like watching your vids but man stop advertising every 5 min i know that you try to make us get your god damn app man. Feels like watching a football game. 70% ads 30% football.
Cause hes a noob & has no idea. Look at how much money some of the young bucks have gotten him for over the last 4 years. Shows up during the pandemic and thinks hes a god. Dudes a 🤡.
Sounds like both of you are the ones that are clowns. He didn't say anything about being so great, but you're insinuating that you're better than him. So you're the one that is the classless clown
Before I even watch ... this series are notorious for off-centering. Never PSA 10, because never centered. You will get "good looking" cards out of the pack.. but PSA 8 at highest.
Geoff wants to big league the guy the whole time. Doesnt listen to him and waits for when he can talk about what he pulled. These videos are cringe with geoff
Always nice when TPots Dad stops by the shop 💯 🎉
Loving that Lambier RC! Amazing rip fellas.
Love that comment from Mr. Tpot "Maybe they'll grade this on a curve." Geoff was so fast to shoot that down. LOL
I love you guys opening these classic boxes...
I love these box openings. It's like a Jabs Family video, except not annoying.
Jabs is less annoying than these guys but yeah its entertaining
That’s exactly what’s wrong with the industry. A bird and magic only have that value but these new players, the Wembys, ect, Hero, Trae, Chet’s, have 2-3k and above values that haven’t accomplished anything and these 2 legends are the MT Rushmore of players and saved the NBA while MJ transcended it
Totally agree dude. I mean, I like Wemby and it looks like he’ll be a great player. But what if he’s not? What if he gets injured and his career ends??! Then how much will his literally thousands of rookie cards will be worth?? His cards have completely over saturated the market to the point where people are spending $600 on crappy, unlicensed products to chase him and he’s the only card anyone cares about! It’s insane to me 🤷♂️ I just don’t get it
Agreed. Modern market is a joke
I can understand the hype for Wemby. He's already great. Rk: 24 EPM as a rookie. Finished with highest DPM out of any rookie past 10 years - at least - Otherwise, I get it.
On the other hand, someone like Brandon Miller still has much to prove. Even though he looks promising.
George Washington only worth a dollar or a quarter. That’s what’s wrong with society
Point is these guys, Larry Bird 3 championships leader of the team and magic has 5. These players and many more have won ZERO some not even a playoff game but their card value is on potential. 8 rings with these legends.
How's the price of Zion cards doing these days? I vividly recall watching a guy drop $1600 on five boxes at Kenny's Collectibles chasing his rookie cards.
I ran a printing press for 16 years. I can tell you how easy it is for defects to get through to finished product. Printed on big sheets even a piece of dust making it to one roller to the impression cylinder plate and you’ll have hickies. Easily you can have movements in the process where color dots do not align and you get off colors with cyan magenta yellow or black to be out of centering. And after printing it’s the bindery that makes the cuts on product. It’s easy for miscuts to get off centering. Even with today’s technology defects are plenty and easy to make the way to finished product. Even inks can be contaminated before entering the ink wells to the rollers. Printing is not easy.
Even the paper stock alone can hold the defect before printing or bindery.
😂😂you and my dad would get along. He printed from 1980 until about 6 years ago. He loves pointing out all the little defects on a card and explaining how that happened in the process.
This could be a video, a movie a something…..
@@johnwayne9828 I do that all the time haha
@@Al-ImprovEd2022 ole time printing….the guys smoking cigars yelling down the press at the lower down the totem pole not getting the sheets to run good through the press
Opening the box with car keys is wild.
I remember the pure joy of opening cards when I was a kid. Now all I hear is "Wow Larry Bird!! Too bad it's not perfectly centered". It is still exciting, but nowhere near as pure fun as it was before grading came about.
I agree. Can’t put a price on what we had as kids. Money just kind of slowly corrupts things like card collecting, and even just watching games.
@Darbobski I agree. Now it's all about how much more can I sell it for if it grades well 😞 It's not like it was in the 60's when I bought packs of cards with my allowance
@@greg3072 it's "Sport Card Investor", aka this channel's primary focus is on the investing end of things
All that matters is the grading, not the card. A poorly conditioned card, even of a Jordan rookie is practically worthless.
Love these old classic box rips! Interesting tidbit about the regional versions of these boxes. Also, Topps apparently didn't have photogs outside of the Washington, DC, area. If you look carefully, all the photos of the player cards from 1977-1981 were taken from the old Capital Center, if you look at the players, the Bullets are wearing their home unis in the background.
I have this complete set. If you turn the cards over you can tell what set they belong to. It says it right next to the card number
Always appreciate the variety of content you guys provide. You may look to see if any of the commons are grade 10 worthy.
Cutting the box - the empty box itself is probably $150 in good shape
Way lame. Wasteful ,and very unthoughtful.
My mom grew up with Bill Cartwright. He bloodied her nose accidently in elementary school while playing tetherball. I remember her telling me about how tall he was. She was friends with his sister too. Rip mom.
Must be so nice to be so rich. And have everything u want. And get to show off everyday
Nobody but Geoff could get a psa ten on any 81 card today. He is the only one, he walks it up to them they know who they are grading the card for. Just to set the tone. He must be excited
Him and other TH-cam box breakers douches, like the ones that always pulls 1/1's on their videos... 😄
Traveling for business in Atlanta this weekend and stopped into the shop. It was awesome! Got a Brady rookie and CJ Stroud.
I love the photo on the Magic card. I have a PSA 9 - one of my faves in my collection
I bought that 2nd year Larry Bird for $5 bucks around 2010.
Insane how much those cards went up a few years ago. I got back into collecting about 8 years ago and the Bird PSA 10 was a $900 card and then it went up to 20-40k overnight.
Loved the 81 Basketball cards, lots of great cards in there. Even though the centering on the cards in that box is really good, I am glad I didn't spend $4,000 on that box.
good looking cards. Brings back childhood memories.
I’d like to hear a follow up of what these ended up grading for. Fun rip! Like going back in time.
What a great Rip! so many Stars!
Thank you. That was fun
That comb over is wild.
Love the vintage videos
Pantyhose will clean wax stains. I grew up in the early 80’s collecting. It works
not even mentioning the Gervin at 25:50, that's unfortunate. the card did, in fact, look very off center, but that's Gervin, man. Mr. Finger Roll, himself.
Great player!
I opened a box of 81 Topps Baseball cards it was such fun and relatively cheap
Oooo excited for this one!
I would love to but the Laker cards that you don’t think would get a great grade. Looking to add them to a gram of old Laker cards and Sports Illustrated magazines.
I’m working on a PSA 9 set. Some of those commons don’t come up often.
I look forward to the grade video!
Do they not know who is in the Hall!!....My goodness!!....There is some good one they flew right over!!
Very enjoyable 👍🏼👍🏼
I'm a fan of oddball cards, including players on another player's card... I just noticed that Larry Bird is on the Sixers team card
The box itself is a collectors item. Not now at least with keying done on it.
Yep ...complete disrespect by the Grifter.
wtf was jeff thinking, seriously what a dum dum azz hole
@@paulmouradjian6045 I don’t get it. I guess I look at things differently. When I saw the box, I was thinking that would be pretty cool to have.
@@FishFisher77 in fact .... The wax wrappers are of value and I see these guys just rip them apart. Modern Grifter ConMen......aka:INFLUENCER. Today's version of the "Snake Oil Salesman"
I couldn't believe it when he was just slicing at it right in the middle on the top. So many other places to open it up at SMH
Psa needs a review section on there page
What is the watch with the white dial your friend is wearing? Looks great
Very fun rip thank you
Larry legend is my favorite basketball player of all time
THKS
Nothing like penny loaders and top sleeves!!
Can you do more box battles please
Holy moly donut shop
You said "Penny Sleeves". Actually we have Cents here in the U.S.
No, not a PSA 9 on the Magic card. A 7 or 8 would be my best guess... looking at it online.
This is a great example of “if” you are gonna buy an old box of unopened sports cards, basketball is the only way to go because many are only 132 card sets, meaning you are MUCH MORE LIKELY to pull stars compared to a 726 card baseball set.
To the degree it is a bad investment to layout a bunch of cash for a late ‘70s box of baseball is the degree it is a good investment to layout a bunch of cash for an old basketball set that has some legit high value cards in it, cuz you should get at least one. That’s 540 cards if they are 15 card packs.
Put the cards with gum on them in the freezer. The gum will pop off without damaging, or not damage as bad
@@Andrew-hq2kuHahaha
Vintage is the best.
Grade the Lambier with the gum attached. 😂😂😂
Saw the headline and thought that this was the bird/magic rookie card box
I waited all week for this video. Jeez I don't have a life.
Apple certainly doesn’t fall far from the treepot
When it comes to CT Scanners.... I'M BUYING.
What makes one have this kind of negative obsession? Just curious, why still watch or post, if so against
@@GymAndSun What's negative? I'm high on CT Scanning. It's a great way to make money flipping boxes!!!
I didn't see you pull the only good rookie card from the set Kevin McHale's rookie.
How.much was the box?
Probably like 5-6 grand. Maybe more, maybe less
Great video
I have what I believe is a very rare dragon ball z card collection. I used to put yen in machines as a child and get cards long before the dbz card game. How can I send you pics ide love to figure out how rare they really are. Ty in advance. 1991 1992 era
so some of the players can't be a RC because they were only "regionally" distributed - aka Kevin McHale :)
You can forget about ANY Bird or Magic PSA 10s, it's a probability less than 1% 😂😂😂
The take about it being the last regional product isn’t true. 93 Finest was done that way for refractors.
Damn, pulling a Dr. J and a Larry Bird out of the same pack. Nice work! Shame about the centering.🙁
I like watching your vids but man stop advertising every 5 min i know that you try to make us get your god damn app man. Feels like watching a football game. 70% ads 30% football.
Mia centered cards should be considered error cards
Will Grier
Larry Bird rookies. ??!! Hello. How are you guys not stocked!!?? Maybe not 10s. But LB rookie??
Ugh. Why are you destroying the box with that key??!!!
Yah next time use the flame thrower please
Cause hes a noob & has no idea. Look at how much money some of the young bucks have gotten him for over the last 4 years. Shows up during the pandemic and thinks hes a god. Dudes a 🤡.
Sounds like both of you are the ones that are clowns. He didn't say anything about being so great, but you're insinuating that you're better than him. So you're the one that is the classless clown
I get it that it's a collectible but get over yourself and the fact that he wrecked a box
Fckd up the box jc ...:/
Please tell me you didn’t ruin the box by cutting it with your knife?
FLEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!
Won't be a 9 in the box.
Your supposed to throw the Lambeer away
these two guys hate each other
Bill Laimbeer… 😂 who cares, Geoff??? I would draw on his face if I pulled that card today.
Before I even watch ... this series are notorious for off-centering. Never PSA 10, because never centered. You will get "good looking" cards out of the pack.. but PSA 8 at highest.
As suspected, after watching.. all the stars are 7 and 8's except the Bill Laimbeer card has a shot.
One of the keys to make some money back for this box is to go through all the commons and find the few that are centered to score a few common 10's
Since..cents...since.... cents...exactly the same pronunciation. 😂
BBCE is a joke just making boxes more expensive than they should be
All of the cards you can pull that are huge in this set are pop controlled at PSA...no way you get a single 10 even if the card is perfecr.
Opening this box is great for TH-cam content but other than that opening that sealed box is throwing your money down the 🚽
Good luck pulling A Gem Mint 10. To talk about this box and call out 10 grades is complete Grifter ConMan crap! Lawd, Spare Us........
What happened to wearing surgical gloves in opening and handling these cards 🤔 🤣
Yeah, with the vintage cards you have to wear gloves because fingerprints can ruin the card on a grading scale.
Rich guys complaining about 40 year old cards 😂
Geoff wants to big league the guy the whole time. Doesnt listen to him and waits for when he can talk about what he pulled. These videos are cringe with geoff
Bro the multiple key marks on the front of the box??? Why would you do that as a collector. The box itself as so much value. This dudes a clown
You guys literally are wasting time talking about the cards no one gives a shit about. Move on this should be a 10 min video tops!
First
Do your best to scrape the top of the box...I'm sure no one will want it.
Let’s just key the box and rip the wrappers , clueless
So stupid.. 1980 cards should be worth a lot more. !!!!
Boring AF
It’s rare for a reason, no one cares about basketball cards loo
The most valuable card on the planet is a basketball card..
😂
Why are these weirdos crying about your star card?
How much is the box?