Please share with religious Muslim sisters who need to hear Umm Khalid's message about polygamy. We need to end this taboo and not attack respected imams for leading the community by practicing their Allah-given rights!
I have to respond to what Umm Khalid said about most Muslim women accepting the legitimacy of polygamy, especially in the context of this specific incident. From the responses on social media I've seen, most (South African) Muslim women seem to try and reframe polygamy as a Sunnah that was specific to the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and that anyone else doing it is doing it for lust (as if there's something wrong with that). That was close to a 100% of the comments that I've seen from women. It's as of they are fuqahā and they are changing the hukm. They're not explicitly saying it's harām, but they try to legitimize their hatred of polygamy with religious arguments.
Salam bro, there is nothing wrong with polygamy in Islam, but the comments were inappropriate and disrespectful. Maybe these kinds of ‘jokes’ that reference women inappropriately are normal in SA but it’s still not befitting of an imam. An real talk, SA mosque don’t even have a women’s section so a little reform would be beneficial.
A sister I know just became a second wife and it was actually her co-wife who asked her to marry their now husband. They get along well and love each other very much. All of them are very happy. It can work and be something very beautiful. May Allah protect and bless their marriage. Amin
@@harunskywalker4942 this is due to Fiqh differences, the majority of South African Muslims are Hanafī's, and their masjid commities act according to the Hanafī ruling relating to women in the masjid. In Cape Town, which is majority Shāfi'ī, every masjid I've been to has a woman's section, and on Jumuah it's not uncommon to see plenty of women crowding the masjid courtyards. The Maulana's address was directed to his community and his followers on social media. They know him, and know the way he speaks. If they're not offended by it, why should we care about what somebody from outside thinks?
@SO GUYS WE DID IT yeah not your twisted view of freedom which is doing whatever you want, like haha so why don't you go become a alcoholic or drug addict? Maybe you already are, cause you know what's stopping you. Why don't you become a woman? That's your idea of freedom. So no thank you. 😜 We live within the limits set by our Creator. And you're just jealous we are happy. ☺️
@SO GUYS WE DID IT I haven't professed any shallow minded view. Meanwhile you have and have been called out for it. You don't have anything worth replying. So, yeah deny reality and take refuge in your worthless ego. How else would you survive without spamming emoji and a shallow brain?
@SO GUYS WE DID IT just because your two braincells can't think of a reason and the benefits of the things you mentioned doesn't mean they're nonexistent... 😂 it just means you're stupid. And what did you leave? Islam? To have fun? Lol, then have "fun" by all means for now. Now is a very short time. Waste your life having "fun", making your desires your God. Don't let Islam live in your mind rent free! 🤣
I personally (as a muslim female) dont have an issue with polygamy. I do however have an issue with men who think its ok to have a "secret" family on the side that wife #1 is not aware of while being encouraged by their local Imam to keep it hidden as long as possible. If polygamy is going to be treated like a religiously sanctioned affair you can't really blame the wife for seeing it as such. Also, any intention for polygamy should be made known to wife # 1 before marriage (not for consent) but to bring clarity to what type of relationship both parties want. Even though I support polygamy, I do think its wrong to spring this decision on someone after a few years of marriage who now have a few young kids and the first wife has become financially dependent. Its not fair to trap someone into a life they did not agree to. If the men can honestly and openly practice polygamy it could really benefit some single mothers, divorcees, widows, even young women who have difficulty finding a decent practicing muslim man. ❤
Exactly! Exactly! Surely one's first wife is someone one cares for, so why not be transparent and considerate? I never understand men who have secret nikkah's and secret families. Worst case when the second wife is not in-the-know as well!
Women also have their right... before marriage they can make a commitment that he won't have second wife as long as she exist, and if the man makes this promise, then he can't broke it either...
@@Ameermensur80 jihad is the unofficil sixth pillar of islam. It is kind of wrong to mix a good word that is praiseworthy with a word that represents unbelief (filth). Just we would not say ''liberal hajj'' when describing the DNC convention, or ''liberal zakat'' when describing people giving money to the charities of the alphabet people, or ''liberal salat'' for people in the street scanding slogans. With Jihad you would have an argument against what I just said, since Allah says the disbelievers make jihad for their Taghut, so.... Food for thought to understand different perspective on the matter.
You better not play that nasheed Jazak Allah khair dear brother for the insight , yet I would like to know the context in Islamic fiqh that this is wrong usage of the word jihad . In the same breath then I can not use the term liberal Islam /modern Islam . Yes if liberal jihad was used in context of support , agreement, or promoting such false idea then I’m against it . Just lik I don’t believe in the idea of liberal Islam . Yes jihad is considered the six pillar in Islam according to the scholars of Islam . Maybe if we focus on the context before making a statement that is not supported or referenced from the Quran, sunnah , and ijmaa of the ummah might be a better approach. Otherwise we will waste our time with one huge balloon that’s is only filled with air . Allah knows best .
@@Ameermensur80 ''yet I would like to know the context in Islamic fiqh that this is wrong usage of the word jihad '' Well the fiqh context is simple here, the disbelievers, all of them, have no jihad, no salat, no zakat, no hajj, etc. since the 3ibadah of a disbeliever is not accepted. In the same way we don't talk about christian jihad or communist jihad or jewish salah, or hindu hajj. It is closely related to the concept of al barra from those that reject the revelation. In the end, intent and what the person means by his words is all that matters. Simply a matter of respecting for the religion and separating it from those that reject it. As salaam waleykum wa rahmuatullah wa barakatuhu.
Your wife is a gift from Allah. You seem to have found your spiritual and intellectual match which is such a blessing. May Allah preserve you for each other.
"Wives are cute when they are mute" the context in his lectures for those who have heard it before, means, don't give your wife an opportunity to complain.
Thabiet Gabier Alhamdulillah for the context. I didn’t see or hear that part. I just heard the statement itself. Assalamu’alaikum and jazakallahu khair.
@@munirahmujahid68 Maybe you should comment this on your original comment as well. Otherwise others will maybe only see your comment and not this explanation.
West: Your free here. You can have 20 girlfriends here. Muslim: Can i get a second wife and give her rights ensured in a marriage contract for her protection and benefit. While also having her consent to be together? West: Thats sexist, mysogenistic , extremist, jihadist, al qaeda talk. Muslim: really?!
Assalamualaikum write Allah in capital Ma sha Allah SubhanAllah In sha Allah JazakAllah Barak Allah and Allah knows best Ameen Assalamalaikum due to hurry and laziness in internet revolution, we dont pay much attention to english rules. but atleast we should be cautious about Islamic principles. So please write, Allah - not allah Qur'an - not quran Muhammad - not muhammed peace be upon him/SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam - not pbuh/saws Allah Subhanahuwa Ta'Ala- not swt Its not about sin and haram but about respect towards our Rabb!
I'm from Cape Town where the Moulana resides. I've only benefited from this Moulana, maa Shaaaa Allah. He comes from an area where it is normal to speak like this. This Moulana even opened a ladies-madrasa madrassa. This Moulana resides in a community where drugs and gangsterism are rampant and he is doing a good job by investing his attention in the youth, guiding them away from these vices. May Allah accept from Moulana Dawud, Ameen yaa Rabb
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran... And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
That actually makes sense, People Expect every line of Imams to be Adherent to all time and places, which is not possible. Everyone's language and way of speaking depends on the Community he belongs to!
I'm from Cape Town. Maulana Dawood (the imam in the video) has been known for decades for speaking in the vernacular spoken on the Cape Flats. In fact, people find it endearing and love him for his way of speaking. As an Afrikaans speaker myself, I can say there is a bit of sexual inuendo in what he says (not only in the video, but others also) and I can see how that would upset some people. Unfortunately, it's as clear as daylight that the uproar around this video has nothing to do with the way he described women, but with the fact that so many South African Muslim women have internalised a feminist worldview and see polygamy as offensive.
The innuendos are often in relation to marriage though. So i dont know why people have an issue.. One lady, who commented on the outrage, found it offensive that he said "if the washing machine does not work, then handwash". This was during a marriage class. He was talking about alternative ways to satisfy the husband if a wife has her menses. If you the type of person that are gonna have an issue with this then rather stay away from marriage classes. Lol I just wanted to give an example of how far people are going to attack him now. Everything he says is an issue now but how is the man gonna explain certain things without being too explicit?
@Dhul Qurnain This is the vernacular of the people. If you from the Cape Flats then you should know that. Under normal conditions his words would not be seen as offensive. You should also know that the reason polygyny divorce rates are so high in SA is because of the stigma and abuse of it. The ML is trying to break the stigma and gets attacked and if he kept is quiet there would have been gossip "Het jy gehoor moulana het nog n vrou..."
@Dhul Qurnain do you really think an 'ālim would allow people in his community to engage in frivolous practices such as those you have mentioned. He was quite clear in saying that men should enter into polygamous marriages IF THEY CAN (i.e. they are capable of meeting all of the Shar'ī shurūt pertaining to marriage). Once again, this is a local issue that is well understood by local Capetonians, so the "outrage" of people that don't even understand the Maulana's language is misplaced. The decades of sterling service that the Maulana has been doing in his community won't be erased just because some people who don't even understand his language were offended. And as for the "labelling" remark, if the shoe fits, wear it. Most of the people who got offended are feminists upset because the Maulana was encouraging polygamy.
The anger in the community had less to do with polygamy and more to do with how degrading his metaphors were to women. Majority of the comments I read across platforms were of women and men upset at the meow and how he compared women to hens (and then people started exposing his other quotes from videos and classes). His frankly very valid message and good action of announcing his upcoming nikkah was lost amidst his cringe sense of humour and innapropriate innuendos. The "vernacular of the cape flats" should not be used as an excuse that this comical, endearing imam had actually crossed a line (many times before as well). He apologised though, so that's all good, and tbh this topic should be left to rest. Poor dude. But also, much deserved criticism.
@Planck M. I'm describing what I've seen across social media platforms as someone who actually lives here and is in with the community. How is what I said dishonest when that's literally what the MJC even nitpicked out of his whole video? Anyway. The moulana apologised and should be left alone. Please take your slander elsewhere.
I'm a Capetonian Muslim women. I'm all for polygamy as it is allowed by Allah and a Sunnah for men to have up to four wives. (And obviously for pious reasons... Not because "they still got it") The fact is that we're not offended by the video because of the polygamist statement or the jokes. This particular Imam has a tendency to degrade women in his classes and makes pornographic statements and its time he need to be silenced because he's now publically broadcasting his masoginist statements. I humbly request this couple to get some of his class material, so that you understand the embarrassment the Cape Town Muslims are feeling regarding this.)
So you go to a marriage class and get confused when a sexual analogy is made? I have asked a few times now (to others of course) where does he "degrade women"? I personally have never heard him degrade women in his classes. Which pious reasons are they allowed to take a second wife Beauty, Lineage, Deen or wealth?
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran... And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Salaams, I know that Imaam, and alot of what was said was took out of context specifically the "cute when mute" etc...he gives marriage classes and relationship advice and he goes into depth to explain that they are more than just that stereotype. I do believe he made a mistake especially in South Africa as it is "Woman's month".
@@munirahmujahid68 agreed, but things escalated so quickly and all the comments on Facebook were all unfair and taken out of context and many started to have debates about polygamy which is a non issue. The fact is that his choice of words were wrong and he should just have apologised for that but to come out with a petition was out of line.
I don’t give a damn about what people think about polygamy. The shariah allows it so there’s no problem in it. Allah permits it who are we to forbid it!!!!
Yes because a man comes to you and says that he heard from god and you believe him. Like this would ever happen today now that we have more common sense and knowledge of science. No, you wouldn't. The only reason you believe laws from 2000 years ago are permitted is because of strong indoctrination - which is evidenced by the fact that people who dont go under this strong indoctrination generally turn out to be atheists. There are 2000 religions, nearly 2000 people who said they "heard from god", how can you believe any of them knowing that if you said that today then you would end up in a psych ward.
The Imam shouldn't have made fun of his wife by making animal sounds or whatever. Allah says 'You are the garment of one another' which means you protect each other's flaws. It's okay for him to marry another lady but also okay for her to be upset as a woman nature, instead of comforting her that he will still love her even when he marries the 2nd time, he made fun of her on social platforms, and making the world laugh at her, hurting her feelings and shattering her trust. The problem isn't that he is marrying the 2nd wife but mocking and exposing her in front of random people, this is against the Quran. May Allah bless him and his family.
The way the Imam spoke is odd - I'm not saying this because I am a 'liberal'. I found it crass and was not amused by it. However, I assume this is the way the folk where he lives commonly speak and so perhaps what is considered indecent in my culture would not be considered indecent in his. I don't think calling men and women 'cocks' and 'hens' and advising brothers to 'get your hens!' is particularly respectful to Muslim women. Especially when you consider that polygamy is not a joke and that brothers should deeply consider whether they are up for the responsibility before embarking upon it. We are not 'hens' to 'get'. Yes, some liberals may be jumping on the bandwagon and overexaggerating but that does not automatically mean what the Imam said was faultless. We can be just and critique both. And Allah knows best.
@@aalimah16 if you think "get your hens" is not crude, you're either being intellectually dishonest or you talk like this yourself. It is one thing to hear your laymen friend speaking like this and another thing entirely to have your Imam talking like this.
@@chicken5706 put that in context of the analogy he made regarding the polygynous nature of chickens. Don't isolate phrases or words out of the analogy. Take it as a whole, so how would that be crude? Some might say that a woman being called a حرث is crude and that men told to go onto their حرث as they wish, is crude... However, we are not gonna accuse Allah of crudeness are we? Because a lot of non muslims think that ayah is crude and portray women as sexual objects.
Polygamy is needed in our community. However, many men are not in the right frame of mind to engage in polygamy. At the same time, there are many women that are left without husbands to protect and care for them and their children. His statements referring to women as hens and cats are very awkward.
Ya Allah give this brother and his wife at least 10 sons and daughters wallah we need more sensitive people like them. احبك في الله اخي دانيال بارك الله فيك و بترك لك في اهلك
I live and grew up in this Muslim community in Cape Town, and I am so saddened by the state of this community since many of us have fallen deep into the liberal western lifestyle. The fact that this sheihk has been under so much scrutiny from so many Muslim Cape Townians makes me understand how far off this muslim community have drifted from traditional orthodox Islam. Poligamy is very much taboo here in Cape Town and it is almost considered offensive to many Muslims, both men and women. Even in the eyes of my Muslim friends and family, I would be considered a very "conservative Muslim" should I marry another wife. Big fan of your channel Daniel. May Allah reward you for your efforts.
Agreed. Polygamy is indeed 100% allowed *if the conditions are met* . But *there's always way better ways to convey a message* . The analogy could have been *waaaaaaaaaay* better. The rooster_hens... meow what not *unnecessary* . I can't imagine the Prophet Peace be upon Him conveying this message like this so ... And Allah knows best.
Assalamu’alaikum. May Allah bless you for putting that up. I cannot imagine the Prophet SAWS, any of the sahaba, or any of the pious predecessors speaking of women like this, especially when talking about polygamy. How could you (in a general sense) talk about the potential prospective mother of your children like that? Also, would you be okay if someone spoke of your mother like that? Especially, being the imam of a community, that’s beneath him. I find that a statement like that is most appropriate just between husband and wife behind closed doors.
@Umer Tracker Thanks for the context. However, the specific words chosen allow room for Shaitan's agenda. There are better ways to words things that don't give Shaitan a chance. If the Prophet SAWS wouldn't have said it, he shouldn't have said it.
Love the way you reacted to the video I'm from South Africa and we know this imam for the great work he does The imam is known to captivate and motivate any crowd from the youth to the elderly with he unique personality The whole negativity is very unnecessary especially when it's coming from other Muslims May Allah allow the imam to continue his good work and dawah and bless his new nikkah
Alhamdulilah. Allah bless. This much visualisation and vocalisation of our Muslim women was/is necessary and I feel not just happy, confident , stronger and fortified by hearing you opinions. thank you. Allah protect the community at all times ameen
I was offended by his analogy but after listening to you, I definitely agree with everything. As salamu'alaikum wa rahmotullahi wa barakatuh. You earned a subscriber
The question to be asked is .... how did the Messenger of Allah pbuh. speak to people and refer to women..... these comments made by the Imam are def offensive to me as a believing woman...... we as Muslim women need to understand what we stand for.
Polygamy is a great blessing in many circumstances. I myself lived in it, and I speak from experience. However, justice is of the essence between the wives. Only Allah will give you success, and if you are not fair, you will fail.
Shame! Because your husband can’t have a heart for one woman or he is just sexually perverted? One man + One woman = One Flesh. That was God’s plan from the beginning.
and yes, justice here need to be explained properly, since some people, who want to reject the legality of it in islam, want to misinterpret the "justice" regarding this topic. the apparent treatment should be fair among the wives. But something like loving inclination towards one wive compard to the others is not one of them, since prophet do love Aisha more than his other wives and classical scholars already explained that "heart inclination toward one wive" is not one of "justice" in the context of poligyny marriage in islam. but nonetheless, thanks that you are not against poligyny in islam, since there's many sister that does that (even though they won't admit it since hating on the teaching itself can take you out from the fold of islam), but you are just someone who advocate for it when it is done rightly islamically which is the correct position, not against it but also not advocating poligyny if it is not in allignemnt with the path of the prophet.
omg i loved the fact that you brought your wife in the video T.T she is so articulate and well spoken T.T and you guys are sooooooooooooo soooo cute together T.T!!!
I have a friend whose wife (15years) urged him to consider marrying her widowed friend. She assured him that she was good with it and could bear to see her friend alone. That's a Muslim woman free of jealousy.
Poligamy is not COMPULSORY but an OPTION. Learn from our beloved Prophet SAW that he only got married after his first and beloved 1st wife Siti Khatijah pbuh passed away. Remerber in the ayatul Quran about Poligamy, "Married your woman by twos, threes and fours (Up to 4) but if you cannot do JUSTICE BETWEEN THEM MARRY ONLY ONE". USE not ABUSE. More wifes more responsibilities and will be ACCOUNTED FOR in the akhirah but if do it following the Sunnahs the REWARD IS BIG TOO. This year is my 30th year of marriage with 4 grown up strong boys with my wife (One and only Insyallah). ALHAMDULILLAH.
I found it offensive. I think he definitely needed to refine his words. He should have made his announcement in a respectful way. To the first wife listening to this is not respectful to her.
thank you i thought i was the only one I'm in noway a libral or against polygamy but like cmon meow? and cocks and hens?? i dont think his intentions were bad in fact i believe the opposites true hes trying to normalise it which is good cuz we really easily get caught up in the libral mindset but like cmoooon could've worded it better youre an imam mashaallah we expect better from our imams
My mom's a teacher and the headmistress of the school was in a Polygamous marriage. My mom told me its because she's infertile and could not have children so SHE looked for a wife for her husband. The arrangement was, if she has children she will share them with the 1st wife. They got married and the 2nd wife had 5 children. So as per arrangement, the first wife took care of 2 children and the 2nd took care of the remaining 3 children. This way both got to enjoy motherhood. Can anyone (liberal) please tell me what is wrong with that?
If your father was impotent, would not he allow 2nd husband for your mom? You do agree with the idea? Does it sound sweet /cute to your supporters in the comment section?
@@manobik Nope. He would not be married in the first place. She will be married to someone who is not impontent. And may be you haven't read my comment correctly, it was her not the husband who opted for a second marriage and it was her who was willing to share those children. Which something that men don't do or won't do and will simply move on if there are such complications. She chose not to move on and stay with the current husband adn islam made it easy for her while giving her what she actually wanted which was to raise children. And that would not make any sense since you don't need 2 men to impregnate 1 woman while 1 man can impregnate 2 or 4 women simultaniously. Hence, creating relationship between the children whilst being connected via the same blood line. If 2 men impregnate 1 women it would not create any relationship between child and the 1st man. Hence it would just be the 2nd mans child while having nothing to do with the 1st man. Which is why its more convenient for society to have a family set up where 1 man can start a family with different women since it creates a relationship between those women and children. Where different men don't create that relationship.
@@ehtishamamin5601 why so... Would not he visit doctor after his marriage and found his impotency for the first time? I think it is 'cute/sweet' if you had 2 fathers.
@@manobik No its not "cute/sweet" since the child will have no relationship with the 1st man. Which is something i have explained briefly in my first comment. Would advice you to read my comment thoroughly.
Guys u should create a podcast to discuss many matters for ummu Khalid to discuss with womens and for u two to have a discussion on some points like this.
From my experience with talking to liberals, Their issue is that having multiple partners, only goes one way in Islam i.e. men having multiple wives and not the other way around. I'm bringing this up because I don't see liberals arguing that relationships should solely be monogamous but of course I'm speaking from experience since it's not out of the realm of possibility that they are monogamous supporting liberals
In a world where there is a functioning households, even then they wouldn't want to have multiple husbands because I remember watching an episode on yt on a series about "love", and there was a woman who had multiple husbands on there. It grossed me out the min she said they take turns in the bedroom one after the other. They just see it as useful for sex but, once a newly redesigned STD comes out they'll run for the hills. Or better yet the baby comes out deformed. Anyways, In a world where there is a functioning households, few men would share a household with other men to begin with. Second, the household work would be too much for her to EQUALLY attend to her many husbands needs. Third, violence would erupt as seen in the past couple of years where couples will have "open relationships" or "open marriages" and the person(s) outside the marriage will get hurt and kill the wife or the husband will kill his wife or the wife will kill her husband. Some will result in divorces and the wife will threaten to take everything from her husband to get back at him even if she herself cheated on him before. Others, they will even kill their children to get back at the other person. Thats why Islam already has a system in place but, they'll call us barbarians while when they do it, they get everyone and their dogs killed and create exponential chaos but, they're sooo damn progressive. Never forget that....lol
The king of england made his own anglican church so he could marry another woman. European kings and nobles often had secret concubines and mistresses. Its pure hypocrisy.
This is the true picture of Islam,, to bring the wife to speak out or share her opinion openly is really inspiring. Anti muslims has got a slap on their face, by showing them how educated and free are muslim women...
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran... And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
It was indeed offensive and hurtful for the first wife who might not like the idea of her husband taking the second wife and it's justifiable for her to feel this way and obviously natural, Islam acknowledges this feeling but making fun of her pain, comparing her to a helpless animal seemed offensive. I'd like to know from you or anyone does Islam not consider this feeling of woman or comforting her? Genuinely asking
Where many people consider taking their wives opinions as a stupid act, I love how a religious muslim like you shows the whole world and shares with the world his wife's opinion just as the prophet did . Lots of respect for you both from an Arabian muslim sister
Talk about about polygamy always fun for me. Most of my friends that not supported polygamy and like to talk about love loyality, often teasing another woman, some other have another wife without telling the other wife, some of them do prostitution. On other side, my friends that supported polygamy they don't dare to teasing another woman, include they don't even brave to do polygamy. But, when they do polygamy, they always open to every of their wives.
May Allah give you tremendous amount of wealth so you can fullfil the needs of your wives, may Allah give you the capability in leading the family of your wives, may Allah make your marriage last until the end of your day, may Allah ease the test that may come with having multiple wives, may Allah lessen or remove the jealousy that may happen between your wive, may Allah give you wives and children that is from the muttaqeen, may Allah make you as muttaqeen also.
The most important thing, it is not to just increase the number of Muslim by accident meaning to just believe we must increase the number of Muslims. The rule of quantity must be ended. We should have even tree children but to educate them. Allah said in the chapter 58 verset 11: he (Allah) will rise in the high position those who cultivate knowledge and iman. We can not cultivate knowledge with some children look like a team of football. If we want that Islam rise again we should invest our time in the quality and not quantity.
I strongly disagree with you. I come from a family of 9, 7 children + father and mother. We were raised and educated in the best way. We all are religious, 2 Doctors, 2 Engineers, 2 English language major, and one Physics major. We didn't have every thing we wanted as little children, but still managed - Alhamdu Lillah - to become what we became. Our parents - May Allah keep them- really taught us and brought us up in the best way. Having a big family is a bless. And Allah says that he will provide for us so don't fear poverty.
I think it's not appropriate for an imam to speak like that. Its ok on social media. But for a Muslim imam, his standing where the profit صلى الله علية و سلم stood. I don't care about what the liberals think.. I care about the women who are still new to Islam, who can be negatively affected. Plogomy is a right for Muslim men in Islam. But Muslim men should also be aware of the emotions of their wives...
what i will say is i am glad he is open about it rather than being secretive I don't agree with the tone of 'come on lads' but its good he is not making the issue eeb or seedy
a guy is not allowed to make a joke saying meow like this about women yet people should apparently be allowed to draw pictures of the Prophet (SAW) and call Jesus (AS) gay.
I'm glad both of you have exercised some common sense here in your critique, the Imam (May Allah bless him) should have chosen his words better but it was in a light hearted way. I admire the way you both work together, empowering each other. May Allah swt bless you both.
He is an old school brother; he is a Man. His analogies are to clarify his point, hens, and roosters, I agree with the sister. He clearly takes care of his wives with money, and he wants his wives to be quiet (all Men enjoy their peace and quiet) so again, I agree with the sister. There is no liberal reformist group required for Imam's, they're not necessary. The truth is the truth - the Qu'ran is perfect, as it stands...lastly, I agree with the sister (your wife- with all due respect and acknowledgement).
People will hate on polygamy but will indulge and hook up culture and open relationships. People will hate on polygamy but will have multiple partners and leave them with children and emotional luggage. Do these munafiqs not realize that Allah recognizes that we can be attracted and compatible to multiple people, and has permitted and regulated a halal way to act on this desire?
What about those people who have an open relationship and yet are happily married? Who have mutually agreed about the same and are happy about it? And also, they might also be childless...anything wrong about that?
123Ambarish Because if a women had multiple husbands, you would not be able to tell who the child belongs to. Even if you did a DNA test, those are never 100% perfect results.
123Ambarish Ok what about them? Either get married or don’t have a haram relationship. Islam doesn’t revolve around your happiness, your happiness revolves around Islam.
@@andypham6335 what if they don't want to have kids? What if they adopt orphans? What if she decides to plan sex in such a manner that she's sure who the dad is? There's so many ways to do that
The Imam presentation wsan't expressed in a proper way. Some people would mind and some won't. Btw, majority of muslim women would not like to share their husband. If a woman doesn't mind, then it is her choice.
But there isn't any requirement for permission from the first wife if a husband wants to marry another woman. If you don't like your husband marrying another, well, that is due to the western media brain wash
@@Azhar_shaikh1 what planet are you from? Western society planted this seed in womens' mind. Majority of the women in this WORLD would not like the idea for her husband to have a second or third wife. You can be a muslim women or not. It is a emotiinal issue from the women perspective. If a wants man to have a second wife, then why doesn't he marry a widow, or someone who is older than him? If you want to follow prophet Muhammad (swt),then marry someone who is older than you. But men, goes for the younger girls to have them as a spouse, and that's a Red Flag. If woman doesn't mind her husband to have another wife, then it is her choice and may Allah (swt) give her reward for consideration and kindness. Brother I know you wouldn't want your wife to have another husband, that is, if you are married.
You take about sunnah, start with your fard also Muslim brothers ignore the sunnah of fasting on mondays and Thursdays, they ignore the sunnah of praying 2 Rakats before fair, they forget that Tahajjud is a sunnah. The only sunnah they remember is to marry 4 wives... as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran... And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Muslims need to understand that Muslim sister can say no to her husband taking second wife. Why are Muslim brothers focusing sisters into polygamy when Allah swt said in Quran THERE IS NO FORCE IN RELIGION OF ISLAM!!!
I've never heard of cute when mute and honey when giving money..... I'm using this lol...... As a female what he said didn't offend me but I would have word it differently. He shouldn't apologise for what he said at all and I wish him the best of luck.
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran... And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Assalamualaikum may Allah grant both of you Jannah-ul-firdowse. I love this sister for the sake of Allah, she is very intelligent and well articulated when she speaks.
umm khalid is so funny, she is more talkative indeed..haha so hilarious that 3:34 exchange about talking more.. daniel is talkative in debating others but around his wife, he better play safe! cuz umm khalid can annihlate him in debate! u know what, actually i wish that my future wife is talkative n funny as aunty umm khalid.
Assalam alaikum my brother. Please allow me to point out something here. What you have said in your video was right and I agree with it. But I don't think that the issue with the video that the man you reacted to was about polygamy or how it might be taboo. I think the main issue here is how he talked about women. Polygamy is part of our religion and is arguably very much needed in some cases as you said. We as muslims should not ever reject it or try to shame it. However, what the man did in his video while trying to promote for polygamy is totally unacceptable. We cannot be encouraging this kind of talk, especially as muslims and especially when trying to promote for a noble ritual of the deen. I think, you brother and my sister Um Khaled agree with me here. I am sad that you have not talked about this at all in this video, regardless if it was offensive to you or not, which can give the idea that this way of talking is okay, as long as it doesn't go to the level of locker room talk. How can we say, that as long as the point he is trying to make in his video is good, we should not look at the way he talked about it. I am also a muslim woman just like you my sister Um Khaled, and I don't really think that what he was saying was acceptable to you. I mean common. Especially with the "meow" at the end. Are you really not the least bothered by how he describes us women? Don't you agree that the phrases he used could be regarded as a bit sexual? Is that okay really to say especially when promoting something good in our deen? I don't think so. I mean there are a bunch of other ways to go about this other than what he did. He could've painted a better picture of polygamy to the viewers by saying a hadeeth or a verse from the Quran to encourage this or to point out the goodness in it for the individuals as well as the ummah as a whole. The way that man was talking in his video does not represent us as muslims and is only mirroring the ugly way of thinking that man has. I hope that you could in the future clarify to us this point better. Jazak Allah Khair.
Salaaam Aliakoum, I think the imam was being hysterical as a way to respond to the liberal movement who are brainwashing the Muslims. You have the right to be offended by it but the sound of it he was conveying a message in amusing tone. Although, polygamy is allowed in our deen it is not easy for the modern Muslim men to get multiple wives due to the financial burden and responsibilities involved in it. The sad reality is a lot of Muslims are struggling to get married nowadays for many reasons and sadly one of these reasons is the massive propaganda of the liberal movement such as feminism…etc It is understandable if it is not your cup of tea amusement.
Greetings. You have to bear in mind the audience he is addressing this message to. The ‘context’ and how he could’ve formulated his message to fit his specific audience. IMO you are being too critical of the brother. I hope you’re not falling victim to this “western feminist agenda” of bringing men down. If you humble yourself just a little and widen your perspective, you’d realize that uplifting your brothers in faith yields better outcomes. Peace.
آقای حقیقت جو شما انسان خوشبخت هستید. بزرگترین نعمت دنیا خانم دین دار است. برای شما قلبا خوشحال شدم. ما را در دعا های تان فراموش نکنید. That's a big blessing from Allah for both of you Mr. Haqiqatjo and sister ummkhalid. May Allah SWT bless you.
I'm a male Muslim in my 30s and I definitely found that video offensive. Not because of the guy getting married to a second wife but the communication of it reeked of arrogance, posturing, and sexual substance which was extremely distasteful. Your wife is being too nice about it.
Completely agree with you brother Daniel :) When are you going to practice Polygamy and support more than 1 Family? This way, you're going to give Dawah by practicing a good deed and encourage others to practice as well and leading this to the downfall of immorality in the Society.
Hi Daniel, I am from south africa, this imam is known for making jokes. The community got upset initially when the video came out but I think a lot of their offense was not because of his comparisons but because we have been indoctrinated into this idea that polygyny is sexual deviance but because they could not criticize that they decided to criticize his jokes. He makes these jokes all the time.
Remember that though Allah SWT permitted his bondmen to marry two, three and even four, he clearly advised for only one just afterwards. You may see the glorious words of the Almighty in the same verse. Hey bondmen ! Which one do you prefer, permission or advice ?
How about خوارم المروءة ? And the fact that people who take responsible roles in the community like imams should speak and behave in a manner that best suits and respects their position..? It’s just not befitting of an imam to speak and act like that in my opinion, and this is a matter that the ‘ulema take seriously when taking any source of knowledge or inspiration from said person
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran... And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Liberals don't have problem with Polygamous relationships but there has to be no commitment, aka they want Polyamorous relationships. It is the same as polygamy, but in polygamy (of Islam), you have to be committed, give rights to your partner, follow certain rules. But in the case of Polyamory, it is an open relationship, with no commitments, no rights. Polygamy makes a family structure, while Polyamory breaks it (liberals will feel uneasy with this statement, it will be proven if you study on this topic).
Asalaamu aleykum brother Daniel and sister Umm Khalid. Thank you so much for this beautiful display of true Islamic unity and wisdom on this matter. I especially want to thank and congratulate sister Umm Khalid for standing by Islam and Sunnah and not the cancerous feminists who's true aganda she and Daniel rightfully point out only want to destroy Islam from within by manipulating the sister's of Islam. May Allah swt continue to protect, provide and bless both of you and your family. Jazak Allahu khair wa Barakat Allahu feekum
Can we please, please use the correct word...it is - as Umm Khalid used - Polygyny NOT Polygamy. Polygamy is when either a man or a woman can have multiple spouses of the opposite gender, and that's not applicable to us. Great video, JazakAllahu khayran to you both!
Please share with religious Muslim sisters who need to hear Umm Khalid's message about polygamy. We need to end this taboo and not attack respected imams for leading the community by practicing their Allah-given rights!
I have to respond to what Umm Khalid said about most Muslim women accepting the legitimacy of polygamy, especially in the context of this specific incident. From the responses on social media I've seen, most (South African) Muslim women seem to try and reframe polygamy as a Sunnah that was specific to the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and that anyone else doing it is doing it for lust (as if there's something wrong with that). That was close to a 100% of the comments that I've seen from women. It's as of they are fuqahā and they are changing the hukm. They're not explicitly saying it's harām, but they try to legitimize their hatred of polygamy with religious arguments.
Salam bro, there is nothing wrong with polygamy in Islam, but the comments were inappropriate and disrespectful. Maybe these kinds of ‘jokes’ that reference women inappropriately are normal in SA but it’s still not befitting of an imam. An real talk, SA mosque don’t even have a women’s section so a little reform would be beneficial.
A sister I know just became a second wife and it was actually her co-wife who asked her to marry their now husband. They get along well and love each other very much. All of them are very happy. It can work and be something very beautiful. May Allah protect and bless their marriage. Amin
@@harunskywalker4942 this is due to Fiqh differences, the majority of South African Muslims are Hanafī's, and their masjid commities act according to the Hanafī ruling relating to women in the masjid. In Cape Town, which is majority Shāfi'ī, every masjid I've been to has a woman's section, and on Jumuah it's not uncommon to see plenty of women crowding the masjid courtyards.
The Maulana's address was directed to his community and his followers on social media. They know him, and know the way he speaks. If they're not offended by it, why should we care about what somebody from outside thinks?
@@harunskywalker4942 wa Alaykum assalam
Good wife is blessing from Allah swt.
Same goes for a good husband.
@SO GUYS WE DID IT yeah not your twisted view of freedom which is doing whatever you want, like haha so why don't you go become a alcoholic or drug addict? Maybe you already are, cause you know what's stopping you. Why don't you become a woman? That's your idea of freedom. So no thank you. 😜
We live within the limits set by our Creator. And you're just jealous we are happy. ☺️
@SO GUYS WE DID IT Of course you are so shallow and narrow minded that you can't see anything more than a cloth bag. Imagine being you
@SO GUYS WE DID IT I haven't professed any shallow minded view. Meanwhile you have and have been called out for it.
You don't have anything worth replying.
So, yeah deny reality and take refuge in your worthless ego. How else would you survive without spamming emoji and a shallow brain?
@SO GUYS WE DID IT just because your two braincells can't think of a reason and the benefits of the things you mentioned doesn't mean they're nonexistent... 😂 it just means you're stupid.
And what did you leave? Islam? To have fun? Lol, then have "fun" by all means for now. Now is a very short time. Waste your life having "fun", making your desires your God. Don't let Islam live in your mind rent free! 🤣
I personally (as a muslim female) dont have an issue with polygamy. I do however have an issue with men who think its ok to have a "secret" family on the side that wife #1 is not aware of while being encouraged by their local Imam to keep it hidden as long as possible. If polygamy is going to be treated like a religiously sanctioned affair you can't really blame the wife for seeing it as such. Also, any intention for polygamy should be made known to wife # 1 before marriage (not for consent) but to bring clarity to what type of relationship both parties want. Even though I support polygamy, I do think its wrong to spring this decision on someone after a few years of marriage who now have a few young kids and the first wife has become financially dependent. Its not fair to trap someone into a life they did not agree to. If the men can honestly and openly practice polygamy it could really benefit some single mothers, divorcees, widows, even young women who have difficulty finding a decent practicing muslim man. ❤
Exactly! Exactly! Surely one's first wife is someone one cares for, so why not be transparent and considerate? I never understand men who have secret nikkah's and secret families. Worst case when the second wife is not in-the-know as well!
couldnt havre said it better myself
I hope all the sisters commenting are not single. I hope
many women don't care if their man gets married to another wife, it's more that they're afraid of the stigma that comes with it.
Women also have their right... before marriage they can make a commitment that he won't have second wife as long as she exist, and if the man makes this promise, then he can't broke it either...
Umm Khalid is so awesome, dang! I hope I become as intelligent and articulate of a muslimah as she is one day.
Brainwashed, you mean?
@@webots125 Akhi don't entertain these people. They will have their time.
@@Zzucia Wallah
@@winooi5012 She does not want to show her face
@@abrahamling7292 Jazak Allahu khair, may Allah increase us all in sabr.
Please use "Liberal Crusade " instead of "liberal jihad". Jazakumullahu khairan.
Why and please can reference your request with evidence from the Quran and sunnah . Jazak Allah khair .
@@Ameermensur80 I too, am interested in knowing.
@@Ameermensur80 jihad is the unofficil sixth pillar of islam. It is kind of wrong to mix a good word that is praiseworthy with a word that represents unbelief (filth).
Just we would not say ''liberal hajj'' when describing the DNC convention, or ''liberal zakat'' when describing people giving money to the charities of the alphabet people, or ''liberal salat'' for people in the street scanding slogans.
With Jihad you would have an argument against what I just said, since Allah says the disbelievers make jihad for their Taghut, so....
Food for thought to understand different perspective on the matter.
You better not play that nasheed Jazak Allah khair dear brother for the insight , yet I would like to know the context in Islamic fiqh that this is wrong usage of the word jihad . In the same breath then I can not use the term liberal Islam /modern Islam . Yes if liberal jihad was used in context of support , agreement, or promoting such false idea then I’m against it . Just lik I don’t believe in the idea of liberal Islam . Yes jihad is considered the six pillar in Islam according to the scholars of Islam . Maybe if we focus on the context before making a statement that is not supported or referenced from the Quran, sunnah , and ijmaa of the ummah might be a better approach. Otherwise we will waste our time with one huge balloon that’s is only filled with air . Allah knows best .
@@Ameermensur80
''yet I would like to know the context in Islamic fiqh that this is wrong usage of the word jihad ''
Well the fiqh context is simple here, the disbelievers, all of them, have no jihad, no salat, no zakat, no hajj, etc. since the 3ibadah of a disbeliever is not accepted. In the same way we don't talk about christian jihad or communist jihad or jewish salah, or hindu hajj.
It is closely related to the concept of al barra from those that reject the revelation.
In the end, intent and what the person means by his words is all that matters. Simply a matter of respecting for the religion and separating it from those that reject it.
As salaam waleykum wa rahmuatullah wa barakatuhu.
Your wife is a gift from Allah. You seem to have found your spiritual and intellectual match which is such a blessing. May Allah preserve you for each other.
Or tabarakAllah :D
Mashaa allah.
Ameen
@@2manyusernamestaken548 search up evil eye
Mashallah
She May be a match but soon will become a second dish if hes already not married to anothet woman.
"Wives are cute when they are mute" the context in his lectures for those who have heard it before, means, don't give your wife an opportunity to complain.
Thabiet Gabier Alhamdulillah for the context. I didn’t see or hear that part. I just heard the statement itself. Assalamu’alaikum and jazakallahu khair.
Very crucial point.
@@munirahmujahid68 Maybe you should comment this on your original comment as well. Otherwise others will maybe only see your comment and not this explanation.
Yes treat her well and she will not complain.
But is it possible that u fulfill all requirements of wife that she wouldn't make any complain !!!
West: Your free here. You can have 20 girlfriends here.
Muslim: Can i get a second wife and give her rights ensured in a marriage contract for her protection and benefit. While also having her consent to be together?
West: Thats sexist, mysogenistic , extremist, jihadist, al qaeda talk.
Muslim: really?!
That lady is absolutely amazing if that is your wife never ever let her go wish more women were like her may Allah protect her
I would die for a women like that.
Amen
heheheheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee easy there jakie boy
@@andrewrogers3067 like what? What are the qualities you like?
I wish more men were less judgemental, hateful and I wish more men would stop abusing woman and changing Islam to suit their desires….
Maasha Allah the chemistry between you is amazing SubhanAllah May Allah SWT protect you from evil eyes and bless you both.
Assalamualaikum write Allah in capital Ma sha Allah SubhanAllah In sha Allah JazakAllah Barak Allah and Allah knows best Ameen
Assalamalaikum due to hurry and laziness in internet revolution, we dont pay much attention to english rules.
but atleast we should be cautious about Islamic principles.
So please write,
Allah - not allah
Qur'an - not quran
Muhammad - not muhammed
peace be upon him/SallAllahu alaihi wa sallam - not pbuh/saws
Allah Subhanahuwa Ta'Ala- not swt
Its not about sin and haram but about respect towards our Rabb!
I'm from Cape Town where the Moulana resides. I've only benefited from this Moulana, maa Shaaaa Allah. He comes from an area where it is normal to speak like this. This Moulana even opened a ladies-madrasa madrassa. This Moulana resides in a community where drugs and gangsterism are rampant and he is doing a good job by investing his attention in the youth, guiding them away from these vices. May Allah accept from Moulana Dawud, Ameen yaa Rabb
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us,
two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran...
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Yep, my language also has a lot of phrases which sound very strange in English, even frightening.😂😂😂
This is normal language here in Cape Town.... He speaks to those kinda of men he is with all the time....
@@fatimaamier8262 that makes sense because as an American the language sounds.... not nice.
That actually makes sense, People Expect every line of Imams to be Adherent to all time and places, which is not possible. Everyone's language and way of speaking depends on the Community he belongs to!
God bless both of you, truly I will pray always for you.
We Muslims don't say I will pray for you
We say I will call Allha for you
In arabic
سادعوا الله لك
بارك الله فيك و في زوجتك
Allah bless you
Jazaka Allahu khairan
@@khalidelrafie6513
و إياكم
Thanks, Allha bless you
Barak allaho feek
ShehabEldien yes we do say I will pray for you. You’re mental lol
@@thewolf1801
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I'm from Cape Town. Maulana Dawood (the imam in the video) has been known for decades for speaking in the vernacular spoken on the Cape Flats. In fact, people find it endearing and love him for his way of speaking. As an Afrikaans speaker myself, I can say there is a bit of sexual inuendo in what he says (not only in the video, but others also) and I can see how that would upset some people. Unfortunately, it's as clear as daylight that the uproar around this video has nothing to do with the way he described women, but with the fact that so many South African Muslim women have internalised a feminist worldview and see polygamy as offensive.
The innuendos are often in relation to marriage though. So i dont know why people have an issue..
One lady, who commented on the outrage, found it offensive that he said "if the washing machine does not work, then handwash". This was during a marriage class. He was talking about alternative ways to satisfy the husband if a wife has her menses.
If you the type of person that are gonna have an issue with this then rather stay away from marriage classes. Lol
I just wanted to give an example of how far people are going to attack him now. Everything he says is an issue now but how is the man gonna explain certain things without being too explicit?
@Dhul Qurnain This is the vernacular of the people. If you from the Cape Flats then you should know that. Under normal conditions his words would not be seen as offensive.
You should also know that the reason polygyny divorce rates are so high in SA is because of the stigma and abuse of it. The ML is trying to break the stigma and gets attacked and if he kept is quiet there would have been gossip "Het jy gehoor moulana het nog n vrou..."
@Dhul Qurnain do you really think an 'ālim would allow people in his community to engage in frivolous practices such as those you have mentioned. He was quite clear in saying that men should enter into polygamous marriages IF THEY CAN (i.e. they are capable of meeting all of the Shar'ī shurūt pertaining to marriage). Once again, this is a local issue that is well understood by local Capetonians, so the "outrage" of people that don't even understand the Maulana's language is misplaced.
The decades of sterling service that the Maulana has been doing in his community won't be erased just because some people who don't even understand his language were offended.
And as for the "labelling" remark, if the shoe fits, wear it. Most of the people who got offended are feminists upset because the Maulana was encouraging polygamy.
The anger in the community had less to do with polygamy and more to do with how degrading his metaphors were to women. Majority of the comments I read across platforms were of women and men upset at the meow and how he compared women to hens (and then people started exposing his other quotes from videos and classes). His frankly very valid message and good action of announcing his upcoming nikkah was lost amidst his cringe sense of humour and innapropriate innuendos.
The "vernacular of the cape flats" should not be used as an excuse that this comical, endearing imam had actually crossed a line (many times before as well). He apologised though, so that's all good, and tbh this topic should be left to rest. Poor dude. But also, much deserved criticism.
@Planck M. I'm describing what I've seen across social media platforms as someone who actually lives here and is in with the community. How is what I said dishonest when that's literally what the MJC even nitpicked out of his whole video? Anyway. The moulana apologised and should be left alone. Please take your slander elsewhere.
I'm a Capetonian Muslim women. I'm all for polygamy as it is allowed by Allah and a Sunnah for men to have up to four wives. (And obviously for pious reasons... Not because "they still got it")
The fact is that we're not offended by the video because of the polygamist statement or the jokes. This particular Imam has a tendency to degrade women in his classes and makes pornographic statements and its time he need to be silenced because he's now publically broadcasting his masoginist statements.
I humbly request this couple to get some of his class material, so that you understand the embarrassment the Cape Town Muslims are feeling regarding this.)
So you go to a marriage class and get confused when a sexual analogy is made? I have asked a few times now (to others of course) where does he "degrade women"? I personally have never heard him degrade women in his classes.
Which pious reasons are they allowed to take a second wife Beauty, Lineage, Deen or wealth?
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us,
two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran...
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
It's only a sunnah not fard...
@@JahannamHellfire fear Allah!! you are talking against Islam!!
You are proud to be the 4th wife? SMH.
Habibi Daniel I ask Allah ta'ala to bless your life and marriage
Salaams, I know that Imaam, and alot of what was said was took out of context specifically the "cute when mute" etc...he gives marriage classes and relationship advice and he goes into depth to explain that they are more than just that stereotype. I do believe he made a mistake especially in South Africa as it is "Woman's month".
Wa Alaikum salam. He could have said it better. The words chosen to deliver a message can influence how that message is interpreted.
@@munirahmujahid68 agreed, but things escalated so quickly and all the comments on Facebook were all unfair and taken out of context and many started to have debates about polygamy which is a non issue. The fact is that his choice of words were wrong and he should just have apologised for that but to come out with a petition was out of line.
Bro. Daniel was having a hard time keeping the smiles in
so was she.
@@antonioribeiro6119 im a muslim but I chuckled at this.
Ppl dont realize this but Daniel is actually a very humorous fellow (he just looks serious and grumpy when ppl talk nonsense)😅
Mashallah that little back and forth about the talking less and more between you two was cute :3. May Allah (swt) bless you both.
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I don’t give a damn about what people think about polygamy. The shariah allows it so there’s no problem in it. Allah permits it who are we to forbid it!!!!
Yes because a man comes to you and says that he heard from god and you believe him. Like this would ever happen today now that we have more common sense and knowledge of science. No, you wouldn't. The only reason you believe laws from 2000 years ago are permitted is because of strong indoctrination - which is evidenced by the fact that people who dont go under this strong indoctrination generally turn out to be atheists. There are 2000 religions, nearly 2000 people who said they "heard from god", how can you believe any of them knowing that if you said that today then you would end up in a psych ward.
The Imam shouldn't have made fun of his wife by making animal sounds or whatever. Allah says 'You are the garment of one another' which means you protect each other's flaws. It's okay for him to marry another lady but also okay for her to be upset as a woman nature, instead of comforting her that he will still love her even when he marries the 2nd time, he made fun of her on social platforms, and making the world laugh at her, hurting her feelings and shattering her trust. The problem isn't that he is marrying the 2nd wife but mocking and exposing her in front of random people, this is against the Quran. May Allah bless him and his family.
The way the Imam spoke is odd - I'm not saying this because I am a 'liberal'. I found it crass and was not amused by it. However, I assume this is the way the folk where he lives commonly speak and so perhaps what is considered indecent in my culture would not be considered indecent in his. I don't think calling men and women 'cocks' and 'hens' and advising brothers to 'get your hens!' is particularly respectful to Muslim women. Especially when you consider that polygamy is not a joke and that brothers should deeply consider whether they are up for the responsibility before embarking upon it. We are not 'hens' to 'get'. Yes, some liberals may be jumping on the bandwagon and overexaggerating but that does not automatically mean what the Imam said was faultless. We can be just and critique both. And Allah knows best.
@Dhul Qurnain what crude slang was used? Analogies aren't crude slang, they are analogies.
@@aalimah16 if you think "get your hens" is not crude, you're either being intellectually dishonest or you talk like this yourself. It is one thing to hear your laymen friend speaking like this and another thing entirely to have your Imam talking like this.
@@chicken5706 put that in context of the analogy he made regarding the polygynous nature of chickens. Don't isolate phrases or words out of the analogy. Take it as a whole, so how would that be crude?
Some might say that a woman being called a حرث is crude and that men told to go onto their حرث as they wish, is crude... However, we are not gonna accuse Allah of crudeness are we? Because a lot of non muslims think that ayah is crude and portray women as sexual objects.
@@chicken5706 He also called the guys "cocks" first in that same sentence. It was an analogy.
@@aalimah16he is still comparing women to chickens
Polygamy is needed in our community. However, many men are not in the right frame of mind to engage in polygamy. At the same time, there are many women that are left without husbands to protect and care for them and their children.
His statements referring to women as hens and cats are very awkward.
😂🤣😂😂😂 dynamic duo
Mash Allah sister may Allah swt preserve her. She is absolutely real and understanding mash Allah
Yeah, the dynamic is hilarious
@@saajiddaya2152 I see nothing “hilarious”. Peace.
Ya Allah give this brother and his wife at least 10 sons and daughters wallah we need more sensitive people like them. احبك في الله اخي دانيال بارك الله فيك و بترك لك في اهلك
Appreciate the reaction. Nice, informative. Thats our imam, from south africa, cape town here.
The Muslim women who intend to shame brothers for properly practicing their God given right of polygyny should fear Allah
YEAH ,They should!Polygny is also in nature of alot of men,which is why men are given hoorAlayn but women arent,IT IS OUR NATURE.
I live and grew up in this Muslim community in Cape Town, and I am so saddened by the state of this community since many of us have fallen deep into the liberal western lifestyle.
The fact that this sheihk has been under so much scrutiny from so many Muslim Cape Townians makes me understand how far off this muslim community have drifted from traditional orthodox Islam.
Poligamy is very much taboo here in Cape Town and it is almost considered offensive to many Muslims, both men and women.
Even in the eyes of my Muslim friends and family, I would be considered a very "conservative Muslim" should I marry another wife.
Big fan of your channel Daniel. May Allah reward you for your efforts.
Agreed.
Polygamy is indeed 100% allowed *if the conditions are met* .
But *there's always way better ways to convey a message* .
The analogy could have been *waaaaaaaaaay* better.
The rooster_hens... meow what not *unnecessary* .
I can't imagine the Prophet Peace be upon Him conveying this message like this so ...
And Allah knows best.
Assalamu’alaikum. May Allah bless you for putting that up. I cannot imagine the Prophet SAWS, any of the sahaba, or any of the pious predecessors speaking of women like this, especially when talking about polygamy. How could you (in a general sense) talk about the potential prospective mother of your children like that? Also, would you be okay if someone spoke of your mother like that? Especially, being the imam of a community, that’s beneath him. I find that a statement like that is most appropriate just between husband and wife behind closed doors.
@@munirahmujahid68 Waalaikum salaam warahmatullah wabarakatuh.
Allahumma Ameen.
May Allah bless you as well Allahumma Ameen.
I 100% agree with you.
@Umer Tracker Thanks for the context. However, the specific words chosen allow room for Shaitan's agenda. There are better ways to words things that don't give Shaitan a chance. If the Prophet SAWS wouldn't have said it, he shouldn't have said it.
@Umer Tracker true.
But no one is infallible.
Everyone makes mistakes.
12345678956824 Exactly!
Love the way you reacted to the video
I'm from South Africa and we know this imam for the great work he does
The imam is known to captivate and motivate any crowd from the youth to the elderly with he unique personality
The whole negativity is very unnecessary especially when it's coming from other Muslims
May Allah allow the imam to continue his good work and dawah and bless his new nikkah
I support polygamy 💯 I would let my husband to marry to another sister instead him to be look around or commit sinnah.
What about you? He will allow you to do the same?
@@MAZ440 ofc not because its halal for men but haram for women.
@@MAZ440 as a Muslim woman Alhamdulillah I'm happy to have only 1 man and Alhamdulillah our men are allowed to marry 4 wives its nima from Allah swa.
Mashallah amazing video as always. May Allah grant us all pious spouses and may Allah preserve our marriages. Ameen
اللهم ارنا الحق حقا و ارزقنا اتباعه و ارنا الباطل باطلا و ارزقنا اجتنابه
I think non Muslims will be shocked by this video that women in Islam can even have an opinion lol
Uh... we’re humans too. Not robots
Alhamdulilah. Allah bless. This much visualisation and vocalisation of our Muslim women was/is necessary and I feel not just happy, confident , stronger and fortified by hearing you opinions. thank you.
Allah protect the community at all times ameen
I was offended by his analogy but after listening to you, I definitely agree with everything. As salamu'alaikum wa rahmotullahi wa barakatuh. You earned a subscriber
I have high respect with people like you who can actually have one opinion and change it due to being able to understand with an open mind
Well to be fair, the imam didn't sound educated that's why he was offensive.
Wt if Daniel thinks of second marriage? Umm khalid's reaction regarding this would be a booster.
May Allah bless You both
Masha Allah, an ideal couple. ☺️
May Allah bless u both and may Allah produce top class ulaama in your generations.
Lol no.
UR PROFILE PICTURE IS OMAR BORKAN AL GALA
The question to be asked is .... how did the Messenger of Allah pbuh. speak to people and refer to women..... these comments made by the Imam are def offensive to me as a believing woman...... we as Muslim women need to understand what we stand for.
Polygamy is a great blessing in many circumstances. I myself lived in it, and I speak from experience. However, justice is of the essence between the wives. Only Allah will give you success, and if you are not fair, you will fail.
Shame!
Because your husband can’t have a heart for one woman or he is just sexually perverted?
One man + One woman = One Flesh.
That was God’s plan from the beginning.
POLIGYNY..wash rinse..
REPEAT... POLIGYNY
and yes, justice here need to be explained properly, since some people, who want to reject the legality of it in islam, want to misinterpret the "justice" regarding this topic.
the apparent treatment should be fair among the wives. But something like loving inclination towards one wive compard to the others is not one of them, since prophet do love Aisha more than his other wives and classical scholars already explained that "heart inclination toward one wive" is not one of "justice" in the context of poligyny marriage in islam.
but nonetheless, thanks that you are not against poligyny in islam, since there's many sister that does that (even though they won't admit it since hating on the teaching itself can take you out from the fold of islam), but you are just someone who advocate for it when it is done rightly islamically which is the correct position, not against it but also not advocating poligyny if it is not in allignemnt with the path of the prophet.
I think you should do more couple debates this was very good
Thank you brother Daniel from bringing in sister Umm Khalid on this issue. May Allah bless you both. Jazakallah khair.
omg i loved the fact that you brought your wife in the video T.T she is so articulate and well spoken T.T and you guys are sooooooooooooo soooo cute together T.T!!!
Meow
@Giovanni huh?
I have a friend whose wife (15years) urged him to consider marrying her widowed friend. She assured him that she was good with it and could bear to see her friend alone. That's a Muslim woman free of jealousy.
Poligamy is not COMPULSORY but an OPTION. Learn from our beloved Prophet SAW that he only got married after his first and beloved 1st wife Siti Khatijah pbuh passed away. Remerber in the ayatul Quran about Poligamy, "Married your woman by twos, threes and fours (Up to 4) but if you cannot do JUSTICE BETWEEN THEM MARRY ONLY ONE". USE not ABUSE. More wifes more responsibilities and will be ACCOUNTED FOR in the akhirah but if do it following the Sunnahs the REWARD IS BIG TOO. This year is my 30th year of marriage with 4 grown up strong boys with my wife (One and only Insyallah). ALHAMDULILLAH.
بارك الله فيكم❤
I found it offensive. I think he definitely needed to refine his words. He should have made his announcement in a respectful way. To the first wife listening to this is not respectful to her.
thank you i thought i was the only one I'm in noway a libral or against polygamy but like cmon meow? and cocks and hens?? i dont think his intentions were bad in fact i believe the opposites true hes trying to normalise it which is good cuz we really easily get caught up in the libral mindset but like cmoooon could've worded it better youre an imam mashaallah we expect better from our imams
@@monarady4148 i agree 👍
@Mona Rady
He said another offensive thing as well you know
He does not need to say sorry.
My mom's a teacher and the headmistress of the school was in a Polygamous marriage. My mom told me its because she's infertile and could not have children so SHE looked for a wife for her husband. The arrangement was, if she has children she will share them with the 1st wife. They got married and the 2nd wife had 5 children. So as per arrangement, the first wife took care of 2 children and the 2nd took care of the remaining 3 children. This way both got to enjoy motherhood.
Can anyone (liberal) please tell me what is wrong with that?
That is actually very sweet.
If your father was impotent, would not he allow 2nd husband for your mom? You do agree with the idea? Does it sound sweet /cute to your supporters in the comment section?
@@manobik Nope. He would not be married in the first place. She will be married to someone who is not impontent.
And may be you haven't read my comment correctly, it was her not the husband who opted for a second marriage and it was her who was willing to share those children. Which something that men don't do or won't do and will simply move on if there are such complications. She chose not to move on and stay with the current husband adn islam made it easy for her while giving her what she actually wanted which was to raise children.
And that would not make any sense since you don't need 2 men to impregnate 1 woman while 1 man can impregnate 2 or 4 women simultaniously. Hence, creating relationship between the children whilst being connected via the same blood line.
If 2 men impregnate 1 women it would not create any relationship between child and the 1st man. Hence it would just be the 2nd mans child while having nothing to do with the 1st man.
Which is why its more convenient for society to have a family set up where 1 man can start a family with different women since it creates a relationship between those women and children. Where different men don't create that relationship.
@@ehtishamamin5601 why so... Would not he visit doctor after his marriage and found his impotency for the first time? I think it is 'cute/sweet' if you had 2 fathers.
@@manobik No its not "cute/sweet" since the child will have no relationship with the 1st man. Which is something i have explained briefly in my first comment. Would advice you to read my comment thoroughly.
Guys u should create a podcast to discuss many matters for ummu Khalid to discuss with womens and for u two to have a discussion on some points like this.
Pleaseeeeee I need some halal podcast man
@@goldrays4862 There're a few Halal podcasts out there
May Allah Protect And Bless You and Those you care about Brother Daniel
Unless you own an oilfield...most men don't have the money and time to cope with 4 wives.
'if im less talkative that would be good for you but i wont' - umm khaled
hahahah that was gold
From my experience with talking to liberals, Their issue is that having multiple partners, only goes one way in Islam i.e. men having multiple wives and not the other way around. I'm bringing this up because I don't see liberals arguing that relationships should solely be monogamous but of course I'm speaking from experience since it's not out of the realm of possibility that they are monogamous supporting liberals
In a world where there is a functioning households, even then they wouldn't want to have multiple husbands because I remember watching an episode on yt on a series about "love", and there was a woman who had multiple husbands on there. It grossed me out the min she said they take turns in the bedroom one after the other. They just see it as useful for sex but, once a newly redesigned STD comes out they'll run for the hills. Or better yet the baby comes out deformed. Anyways, In a world where there is a functioning households, few men would share a household with other men to begin with. Second, the household work would be too much for her to EQUALLY attend to her many husbands needs. Third, violence would erupt as seen in the past couple of years where couples will have "open relationships" or "open marriages" and the person(s) outside the marriage will get hurt and kill the wife or the husband will kill his wife or the wife will kill her husband. Some will result in divorces and the wife will threaten to take everything from her husband to get back at him even if she herself cheated on him before. Others, they will even kill their children to get back at the other person. Thats why Islam already has a system in place but, they'll call us barbarians while when they do it, they get everyone and their dogs killed and create exponential chaos but, they're sooo damn progressive. Never forget that....lol
The king of england made his own anglican church so he could marry another woman. European kings and nobles often had secret concubines and mistresses. Its pure hypocrisy.
You are right
This is the true picture of Islam,, to bring the wife to speak out or share her opinion openly is really inspiring.
Anti muslims
has got a slap on their face, by showing them how educated and free are muslim women...
Please do a video on the severity of punishment for men if he do injustice between wives...complete the picture plzz
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us,
two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran...
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
@@JahannamHellfire jazakAllah o khir...beautifully explained...thank you..
muhammad also breaking the wife heart, he will get punished!
@@JahannamHellfire 🤡
@@rhobh1868 👹
It was indeed offensive and hurtful for the first wife who might not like the idea of her husband taking the second wife and it's justifiable for her to feel this way and obviously natural, Islam acknowledges this feeling but making fun of her pain, comparing her to a helpless animal seemed offensive. I'd like to know from you or anyone does Islam not consider this feeling of woman or comforting her? Genuinely asking
Where many people consider taking their wives opinions as a stupid act, I love how a religious muslim like you shows the whole world and shares with the world his wife's opinion just as the prophet did
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Lots of respect for you both from an Arabian muslim sister
Ameen, may Allah protect our community. May Allah give our community a strong backbone.
Ameen walaal
Mashallah, great couple!
Btw I need subtitles to know what the sheikh said!😂
Yes 😅
Yes
اللهم بارك نسال الله ان يوفقنا واياكم اجمعين
Your wife is well spoken masallah what a smart couple
Yes both are Harvard graduates.
جزاك الله خيرا وثبتك على الإيمان
Talk about about polygamy always fun for me.
Most of my friends that not supported polygamy and like to talk about love loyality, often teasing another woman, some other have another wife without telling the other wife, some of them do prostitution.
On other side, my friends that supported polygamy they don't dare to teasing another woman, include they don't even brave to do polygamy. But, when they do polygamy, they always open to every of their wives.
Its all about being a man and having courage to engage in polygamy unlike those who hide, its not manly.
Its ok to have an open marriage, but Polygamy is ok. The double standard is there as always.
I plan to have polygamous marriage with 4 wives InshaAllah, please make dua for me brothers and sisters 🤲.
@Raunak Anwar hes making fun of islam for allowing 4 wives.
What is up with your profile picture?
May Allah give you tremendous amount of wealth so you can fullfil the needs of your wives, may Allah give you the capability in leading the family of your wives, may Allah make your marriage last until the end of your day, may Allah ease the test that may come with having multiple wives, may Allah lessen or remove the jealousy that may happen between your wive, may Allah give you wives and children that is from the muttaqeen, may Allah make you as muttaqeen also.
Thank God, in Turkyie polygamy has been banned for years. Marry a second wife in turkey and you get yourself into a big trouble.
Awesome. having this beautiful muslim mindset is a blessing from Allah..
Plz Donot stop your work, keep going, we need all faithful talented Muslims to be there on the map.
May Allah bless your steps all the way.
It took me out at the end when the sister was very polite about her husband taking it way too far… I seriously almost herd “Yeahhh, NO” 😅😂
The most important thing, it is not to just increase the number of Muslim by accident meaning to just believe we must increase the number of Muslims. The rule of quantity must be ended. We should have even tree children but to educate them. Allah said in the chapter 58 verset 11: he (Allah) will rise in the high position those who cultivate knowledge and iman.
We can not cultivate knowledge with some children look like a team of football. If we want that Islam rise again we should invest our time in the quality and not quantity.
Through quantity you get quality, Allah promised to provide for all so no-one should worry about lack of sustenance
Why not BOTH?
I strongly disagree with you. I come from a family of 9, 7 children + father and mother. We were raised and educated in the best way. We all are religious, 2 Doctors, 2 Engineers, 2 English language major, and one Physics major.
We didn't have every thing we wanted as little children, but still managed - Alhamdu Lillah - to become what we became.
Our parents - May Allah keep them- really taught us and brought us up in the best way.
Having a big family is a bless. And Allah says that he will provide for us so don't fear poverty.
Beautifully put.
@@yazanalhajaj3638 mashallah, do you have sisters who work? Just curious
جزاكما الله خير الجزاء
Ma sha Allaah!!
Nice to know that you both are husband and wife. Perfect couple.❤️
I think it's not appropriate for an imam to speak like that. Its ok on social media. But for a Muslim imam, his standing where the profit صلى الله علية و سلم stood.
I don't care about what the liberals think.. I care about the women who are still new to Islam, who can be negatively affected.
Plogomy is a right for Muslim men in Islam. But Muslim men should also be aware of the emotions of their wives...
What did he say wrong, Abul 3iyaal?
what i will say is i am glad he is open about it rather than being secretive
I don't agree with the tone of 'come on lads' but its good he is not making the issue eeb or seedy
بسم الله ما شآء ألله تبارك الرحمن ربنا يثبتكم ويثبتنا وإياكم ع طاعة الله تبارك وتعالى
a guy is not allowed to make a joke saying meow like this about women yet people should apparently be allowed to draw pictures of the Prophet (SAW) and call Jesus (AS) gay.
I'm glad both of you have exercised some common sense here in your critique, the Imam (May Allah bless him) should have chosen his words better but it was in a light hearted way. I admire the way you both work together, empowering each other.
May Allah swt bless you both.
He is an old school brother; he is a Man. His analogies are to clarify his point, hens, and roosters, I agree with the sister. He clearly takes care of his wives with money, and he wants his wives to be quiet (all Men enjoy their peace and quiet) so again, I agree with the sister. There is no liberal reformist group required for Imam's, they're not necessary. The truth is the truth - the Qu'ran is perfect, as it stands...lastly, I agree with the sister (your wife- with all due respect and acknowledgement).
Ma Shaa Allah,,, You are the first an EXEMPLARY MUSLIM COUPLE I have ever seen on the screen so far🌸🌸🌸
Nice explanation bro
People will hate on polygamy but will indulge and hook up culture and open relationships. People will hate on polygamy but will have multiple partners and leave them with children and emotional luggage. Do these munafiqs not realize that Allah recognizes that we can be attracted and compatible to multiple people, and has permitted and regulated a halal way to act on this desire?
Why aren't women allowed to have multiple husbands?
What about those people who have an open relationship and yet are happily married? Who have mutually agreed about the same and are happy about it? And also, they might also be childless...anything wrong about that?
123Ambarish Because if a women had multiple husbands, you would not be able to tell who the child belongs to. Even if you did a DNA test, those are never 100% perfect results.
123Ambarish Ok what about them? Either get married or don’t have a haram relationship. Islam doesn’t revolve around your happiness, your happiness revolves around Islam.
@@andypham6335 what if they don't want to have kids? What if they adopt orphans? What if she decides to plan sex in such a manner that she's sure who the dad is? There's so many ways to do that
Polygamy is a right not an obligation
MashaAllah, sister umm khalid is excellent she so positive. May Allah subhanhutaala bless u both.
The Imam presentation wsan't expressed in a proper way. Some people would mind and some won't. Btw, majority of muslim women would not like to share their husband. If a woman doesn't mind, then it is her choice.
May Allah bless you for that ameen.
But there isn't any requirement for permission from the first wife if a husband wants to marry another woman. If you don't like your husband marrying another, well, that is due to the western media brain wash
@@Azhar_shaikh1 what planet are you from? Western society planted this seed in womens' mind. Majority of the women in this WORLD would not like the idea for her husband to have a second or third wife. You can be a muslim women or not. It is a emotiinal issue from the women perspective. If a wants man to have a second wife, then why doesn't he marry a widow, or someone who is older than him? If you want to follow prophet Muhammad (swt),then marry someone who is older than you. But men, goes for the younger girls to have them as a spouse, and that's a Red Flag. If woman doesn't mind her husband to have another wife, then it is her choice and may Allah (swt) give her reward for consideration and kindness. Brother I know you wouldn't want your wife to have another husband, that is, if you are married.
You take about sunnah, start with your fard also Muslim brothers ignore the sunnah of fasting on mondays and Thursdays, they ignore the sunnah of praying 2 Rakats before fair, they forget that Tahajjud is a sunnah. The only sunnah they remember is to marry 4 wives... as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us,
two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran...
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Muslims need to understand that Muslim sister can say no to her husband taking second wife. Why are Muslim brothers focusing sisters into polygamy when Allah swt said in Quran THERE IS NO FORCE IN RELIGION OF ISLAM!!!
I've never heard of cute when mute and honey when giving money..... I'm using this lol...... As a female what he said didn't offend me but I would have word it differently. He shouldn't apologise for what he said at all and I wish him the best of luck.
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us,
two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran...
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
Some men luckily get married with four wives at the same time got cursed by having four mother inlaw.. Only the brave could handle the headach
Assalamualaikum may Allah grant both of you Jannah-ul-firdowse. I love this sister for the sake of Allah, she is very intelligent and well articulated when she speaks.
umm khalid is so funny, she is more talkative indeed..haha so hilarious that 3:34 exchange about talking more.. daniel is talkative in debating others but around his wife, he better play safe! cuz umm khalid can annihlate him in debate! u know what, actually i wish that my future wife is talkative n funny as aunty umm khalid.
Assalam alaikum my brother. Please allow me to point out something here. What you have said in your video was right and I agree with it. But I don't think that the issue with the video that the man you reacted to was about polygamy or how it might be taboo. I think the main issue here is how he talked about women. Polygamy is part of our religion and is arguably very much needed in some cases as you said. We as muslims should not ever reject it or try to shame it. However, what the man did in his video while trying to promote for polygamy is totally unacceptable. We cannot be encouraging this kind of talk, especially as muslims and especially when trying to promote for a noble ritual of the deen. I think, you brother and my sister Um Khaled agree with me here. I am sad that you have not talked about this at all in this video, regardless if it was offensive to you or not, which can give the idea that this way of talking is okay, as long as it doesn't go to the level of locker room talk.
How can we say, that as long as the point he is trying to make in his video is good, we should not look at the way he talked about it.
I am also a muslim woman just like you my sister Um Khaled, and I don't really think that what he was saying was acceptable to you. I mean common. Especially with the "meow" at the end. Are you really not the least bothered by how he describes us women? Don't you agree that the phrases he used could be regarded as a bit sexual? Is that okay really to say especially when promoting something good in our deen? I don't think so. I mean there are a bunch of other ways to go about this other than what he did. He could've painted a better picture of polygamy to the viewers by saying a hadeeth or a verse from the Quran to encourage this or to point out the goodness in it for the individuals as well as the ummah as a whole. The way that man was talking in his video does not represent us as muslims and is only mirroring the ugly way of thinking that man has. I hope that you could in the future clarify to us this point better. Jazak Allah Khair.
Salaaam Aliakoum, I think the imam was being hysterical as a way to respond to the liberal movement who are brainwashing the Muslims. You have the right to be offended by it but the sound of it he was conveying a message in amusing tone.
Although, polygamy is allowed in our deen it is not easy for the modern Muslim men to get multiple wives due to the financial burden and responsibilities involved in it.
The sad reality is a lot of Muslims are struggling to get married nowadays for many reasons and sadly one of these reasons is the massive propaganda of the liberal movement such as feminism…etc
It is understandable if it is not your cup of tea amusement.
Greetings.
You have to bear in mind the audience he is addressing this message to. The ‘context’ and how he could’ve formulated his message to fit his specific audience. IMO you are being too critical of the brother. I hope you’re not falling victim to this “western feminist agenda” of bringing men down. If you humble yourself just a little and widen your perspective, you’d realize that uplifting your brothers in faith yields better outcomes. Peace.
آقای حقیقت جو شما انسان خوشبخت هستید. بزرگترین نعمت دنیا خانم دین دار است. برای شما قلبا خوشحال شدم.
ما را در دعا های تان فراموش نکنید.
That's a big blessing from Allah for both of you Mr. Haqiqatjo and sister ummkhalid. May Allah SWT bless you.
I'm a male Muslim in my 30s and I definitely found that video offensive. Not because of the guy getting married to a second wife but the communication of it reeked of arrogance, posturing, and sexual substance which was extremely distasteful. Your wife is being too nice about it.
جزاكم الله خيرا
احسنتم احسن الله اليكم
حفظكم ربى ونفع بكم ... اللهم امين
Completely agree with you brother Daniel :) When are you going to practice Polygamy and support more than 1 Family? This way, you're going to give Dawah by practicing a good deed and encourage others to practice as well and leading this to the downfall of immorality in the Society.
Remember, its sunnah not a fard, so he doesn't have to
Hi Daniel, I am from south africa, this imam is known for making jokes. The community got upset initially when the video came out but I think a lot of their offense was not because of his comparisons but because we have been indoctrinated into this idea that polygyny is sexual deviance but because they could not criticize that they decided to criticize his jokes. He makes these jokes all the time.
Neither men nor women should talk about their spouse behind their backs. Joke or no joke . Its disrespectful. Shaitan loves that.
Remember that though Allah SWT permitted his bondmen to marry two, three and even four, he clearly advised for only one just afterwards. You may see the glorious words of the Almighty in the same verse. Hey bondmen !
Which one do you prefer, permission or advice ?
How about خوارم المروءة ?
And the fact that people who take responsible roles in the community like imams should speak and behave in a manner that best suits and respects their position..?
It’s just not befitting of an imam to speak and act like that in my opinion, and this is a matter that the ‘ulema take seriously when taking any source of knowledge or inspiration from said person
as Muslims we must fear Allah swt and not change the deen to suit our needs, unless we want Allah punishment to come upon us,
two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one [marry only] from Quran...
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
ربنا يحميكوا و يصلح بينكوا و يرزقوا بالذرية الصالحة و يجعل بيتكم مطمئن تنصروا الإسلام و تظهروا الحق و يثبتكوا
Liberals don't have problem with Polygamous relationships but there has to be no commitment, aka they want Polyamorous relationships. It is the same as polygamy, but in polygamy (of Islam), you have to be committed, give rights to your partner, follow certain rules. But in the case of Polyamory, it is an open relationship, with no commitments, no rights. Polygamy makes a family structure, while Polyamory breaks it (liberals will feel uneasy with this statement, it will be proven if you study on this topic).
Asalaamu aleykum brother Daniel and sister Umm Khalid. Thank you so much for this beautiful display of true Islamic unity and wisdom on this matter. I especially want to thank and congratulate sister Umm Khalid for standing by Islam and Sunnah and not the cancerous feminists who's true aganda she and Daniel rightfully point out only want to destroy Islam from within by manipulating the sister's of Islam. May Allah swt continue to protect, provide and bless both of you and your family. Jazak Allahu khair wa Barakat Allahu feekum
Can we please, please use the correct word...it is - as Umm Khalid used - Polygyny NOT Polygamy.
Polygamy is when either a man or a woman can have multiple spouses of the opposite gender, and that's not applicable to us. Great video, JazakAllahu khayran to you both!
I think you are misspelling the word. Its polygYny
PolygEny is something completely different.
@@novemberjam yes, you're right. Thank you for reminding me