Soldering a tiny SMD chip with paste and hot air
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- For scale things appearing in the video are the solder paste being applied with a needle, needle point tweezers holding the chip, the hot air gun nozzle (6mm across), the white fluffy thing is a marker tip dispensing flux and finally the soldering iron tip to clear the "bridge" short between two pins.
Never used the paste before. At first I was thinking oh no , this is going to be a mess , then everything just flows cleanly into place. Nice job
It was the primary reason for the video. I watched Jullian Illet spend hours trying to lay paste on each pad individually, there is no need, as long as you don't use too much, as that causes the bridged pins as you seen.
The beauty of Flux!
What kind of paste?
the past used is a famose brand
in the name of:
mechanic
easy used and use and enjoy it.
@@sarockpashotan thanks!! Good to know!!!
Finally someone who understands you don't have to apply the solder paste pad by pad. Also, on a sidenote if you're new to this... With this method, beware of little solder balls that sometimes go flying away and may end up shorting another IC, just clean the board afterwards. It's not as prone to happen on reflow ovens than with a hot air gun
Thanks. For my actual boards (this one is a practice board thing) I use a toothbrush and isopropanol alcohol to clean the flux off which should take care of the balls too, but I also inspect the boards with the microscope for said balls. Here is an example of a finished and cleaned board (showing the output filters of a USB DAC sound card):
imgur.com/0COBwae
So the excess solder paste gets absorbed into the soldering on legs & pads. I noticed before the IC was put in place, looking at the pre-printed markings, a notch was in the end of the white outline. Does that correspond to the dot on the one end of the IC (for orientation)? Thanks
@@j.lietka9406 Yes, there's a dot and a notch to indicate the orientation, and should correspond with the IC. (some have a dot, some a notch, or both, to determine where's Pin 1).
@@hussssshie that's right! Thanks 🤓
@@j.lietka9406 As long as there is enough flux to remove the oxides, the solder will want to pool and flow only onto metal. So once it reaches molten temperatures it immediately shifts into as few "drops" as possible flowing onto the metal, pooling on the pad and wicking up the component leg. My other video on removing bridges shows this clearly.
Soldering tiny SMD chips with solder paste and hot air is great, thanks for sharing high quality repair knowledge with everyone. Upvote for you!
Fixing the bridge between the bottom left pins using soldering iron is great. Thanks for this helpful video.
The last 6 seconds were crucial. That is professional work right here, was afraid the video left me disappointed.
This looks so satisfying. I never soldered with solder paste before. I think i'm gonna try it when i get a heat gun.
With what have you soldered before 🤔
@@spacenodus7959solder wire
A most exellent demo sir.this will help me out loads.thankyou most kindly
Dude.
Which paste you used in this video? Which soldering station, airflow strength and temperature?
It is beautiful like a ballet, but then one ballerina fell at the end. Flux & iron in for the save. I love watching paste.
What do you have your blower settings at, on like a 0-10 scale? I had mine at 25% and them chips were slippin around like penguins that got slathered up with KY jelly. We have an actual oven at work but I try and do hand stuff at home.
You set the temperature too low on the soldering station, which is why the solder paste melted for a long time, remember not to overheat the IC
Paradoxically, the higher the temperature set on the soldering station, the shorter the IC will be exposed to high temperature
The other side of the story though is that hitting a cold board with high temp air can cause unequal expansion and stress the PCB. You can split the operation into pre-warm and solder or just use slightly cooler air and work closer and closer as the general board area warms up and stops sucking the heat away.
What temperature would you reccomend as rule of thumb to start with?
In fact you should follow the heat curve, that heat curve takes like 6 minutes from preheat, heat spike and cooling. thats what a professional oven does.
@@harviecz check the specs of the solder paste and the chip
@@israelsalas4617 No, not really. Most ICs don't really care. If a curve has to be followed to prevent damage, it will be specifically stated in the datasheet.
Also, even if the chip is not really sensitive but it's a large BGA package, you just cant blow it with 500°C continuously.
But a good rule of thumb is to preheat the surrounding area to 130-150° for 20-30 seconds (at that temperature, the flux will be unaffected), ramping it up to around 450-470°. Solder takes heat more quickly than the chip will do. Being quick ensures it will not be damaged. Just don't do that from room temperature.
The distance of the nozzle to the part also dramatically changes the heat you're putting into it. At 5cm at 400°, the IC will see around 230°. Not even close to the 400° coming out of the gun.
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Great beautiful work !! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Ролик нужно назвать: " Так никогда не делайте". Столько времени греть плату, микросхему... Для чего? Паяльником 10 секунд.
I have never done soldering of any kind but am thinking of doing some for a transmitter kit. You make it look so easy. Would this be better for me as a novice or would you recommend starting out with the iron?
Idk but shouldn't be too much more of a challenge doing some SMD. As long as you are willing to pay for the proper equipment. Stereo microscope, tweezers that are high quality an hot air station.
What alloy did you use with the paste?
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its amazing how these paste "choose" to connect the intended circuitry, but not shorting to the neighboring connections
Solder when molten (and clean) likes to stick to other metals only. So it bunches up in blobs on the metal.
"Some other metals." Not all. Some are really hard to solder.
The [green] "varnish" or "lacquer" on the board is referred to as [a] "solder mask" (also "solder stop", "solder resist", etc.) ...it is a special polymer which is specifically designed to eschew solder (¿solderphobic?) ...When the solder gets hot enough to liquify, it "sticks to" [forms an alloy with] the pcb track and the chip leg - but CANNOT bond to the special "solder resistant" polymer ...Because we are now dealing with a liquid, the physics of "surface tension" kicks in, and the solder 'pools' to the points where it is (now) "stuck" to the metal parts :) ...That said, there is still very much a skill to getting it right.
what temperature hot air gun ?
I wonder if low melt solder and hot air will do for smd's with tiny pins like hair?
Great job! What temperatures did you set for pre-warm and solder? And what is the flux do in clearing the "bridge"?
Flux 'wets' the solder, allowing surface tension to break the bridge. Sometimes it works with just 'add some flux and heat a bit', sometimes it requires a soldering iron tip (and flux in this case would make it much easier for the solder to move to the tip).
@@fhunter1test Yep. Flux once hot enough becomes a very nasty powerful anti-oxidant. It cleans the oxide layer off the solder which allows the solder to flow, retains it's surface tension like a "blob" or "drop" so you can pull it around. As long as everything is clean (well fluxed) it should always flow onto metal and will try and flow into larger and larger blobs, exacltly what you want. Dirty tips, dried up solder cores or no flux at all makes a mess as the solder sticks to everything, spreads out in spatters and just makes a mess.
Temp was 300 or 350*C. The air out of the gun probably halves every inch you get from the nozzle. You can point it at your hand from 5 inches away and not get burnt. So to do the warming profile, you have to start far away, covering the whole board and slowly, progressively move tighter and tighter into the areas to be soldered. Getting the tip closer and closer so you are trying to evenly warm things, getting progressively hotter and more focused until it all starts to flow. Then you have to keep it hot until it all flows properly. Ideally (not in this video), you want the whole chip, all legs, molten at the same time, so the chips will recenter itself on the pads due to the solder surface tension.
At the same time you don't want to spent too long at it. Most ICs can hand 180-200*C for up to 5 minutes, higher temps for less time. What breaks ICs when air soldering is heating them up too fast, causes uneven expansion and can crack the dies.
Also worth noting. Prewarming, or starting slowly, also helps drive out water. If you suspect any of your components may have traces of water, the prewarming or alcohol washing helps drive it off before it becomes a problem. Trapped water under soldering heat can cause small steam explosions which can break components.
APTLY excellent job Sir.Thanks v much.
This may be ideal for a DS cartridge PCB. Something that neatly set on the legs of the chip is something I want done. Already have a hot air station, so I'll pick this up as well.
Love that there's an issue with two of the pads, very helpful
that last part should be played in slo motion with the matrix sound effect
Off i go to re-watch the whole Matrix Trilogy thanks to this comment 😂
Will using the torch feature of my butane soldering iron be too hot for this application?
Is there flux in the paste or something?
What temperature is the heat gun at?
Very good video! Steady hands as well, you're like a human placement machine :) I manufacture various types of solders including pastes and I am wondering if it is worth setting up a blog to help everyone with choosing the correct type of products. I would like to but don't know if it will get the interest!
It's better if you post videos + reference to your blog post as well. The plus: you can monetize both. I am searching for resoldering old motherboard with corroded pin right now tough...
incredible idea. go ahead boss
Are you blind? This was a really poor demonstration of using paste and hot air.
what temp and airflow was the final result?
Air flow and temperature please? Thanks in advance
Maybe you are, but an air bath preheater underneath the pcb elevating temperatures to 150C helps hot air pens reflow easily, avoid bridging issues and overheating components.
what re work station are you using. I have a dual Weller station but id love a Hakko. my 125w iron is a hakko since we switched when Weller stopped putting the gyro sensor in the iron and moved the manufacturing of the irons to china and now they only last a few months :(
Left an older Weller 35 watt iron ON for 3 months (snowbird winter holiday). Was still on upon arriving home!
Looks like magic
I enjoyed well ❤️
what type of flux is this? may a kind person post a link?
what temperature?
about 330c
What microscope do You use to this videos?
In the industrial process they use also a red glue that is attaching the component to the pcb and stencil printing.Placing solder paste manually you cant avoid the solder bridges and need another pass with soldering iron to remove them.
You can get them to work without bridges. Actually the bridge in this case was caused by just a little bit too much solder in that location to actually break into two blobs on two pins and stayed as one blob bridging the two pins. If you use a little less paste than I did, or even just apply it with a brush you won't get bridges. You can actually buy the stencil with your PCBs from the likes of PCBWay, it's like an extra $10. Apply the paste using a scraper or credit card and air solder it. You won't get bridges either.
Were you referring to the process they call "staking"? I wonder why that is, because where i work, we basically never use it. Only for re-routing wires
I've always tinned the pads on the board then put flux paste on, then seat the chip and hot air it while holding it in place with tweezers.
Solder paste looks like cheating haha, good job tho looks perfect
Thank you for the information.
А сразу паяльником заслужить и припаять не проще было?
Nice, never used paste before. Was planning on using 183c solder wire with hot air to add a m.2 connecter to my laptop and replace a broken connector in my phone. The m.2 connecter has a max temp of 245c so I want to use as low of a temp solder as possible and might use a 140c paste with air.
Paste should still melt at rated temp after it cooled as long as you used flux, right?
I think you will be fine. Just be aware that other components around the m.2 socket may also melt and reflow.
For the socket it's self alignment will be 100% key. If you have just enough solder and you can get it to flow at the same time across all pins it should self align. Even slightly too much solder and it could bridge. You'll need a scope to see it.
I would direct you towards some of Louis Rossmans' repair videos for a more qualified source on finer details of SMD rework.
@@1over137 yes, I was planning to use some kapton tape as shields and will check with a meter.
@@themadatheist1976 Checking the pins with a meter will require the pinout of the socket.
For example many of the pins will be "ground", so with a meter they will appear shorted, but that's normal.
Is the marker no-clean flux? Or something else like R or RMA ?
It is no-clean flux. However, all that means is the flux residue is not corrosive or conductive. It's still ugly and every bit of dirt sticks to it. A bath with Isopropanol alcohol and a toothbrush helps. I even use an electric toothbrush... carefully and delicately. Then rinse with lots of water and air dry quickly with a hair dryer or your hot airgun if you have to. Be warned... Isopropanol alcohol vapours, while evaporating, WILL, get you high. Not recommended, so do it in an open space.
what is that last thing u applied with a brush?
Flux
Hi can you tell me what it was you did with the wet brush towards the end? was it coated with something?.
Solder flux
Yep, Flux is critical to this technique and is very often the defacto "get out of trouble" when soldering anything.
I do it with regular solder and don't have to worry about out of date paste.
Would covering the chip with alu foil be good when boring on the soldering tips of the chip?
No. You want the chip to get hot. If you try and keep it cool it may suffer uneven expansion and crack the internal die.
They are rated for 180+*C for up to a minute.
Check the datasheets for heat profiles.
What type of solder is this?
Hello! What brand of solder paste do you use?
Great work. Excellent 👏.
Great video. Please I'm a beginner and I would like to know the names of the tools used in this video. Thanks
Clean job
Can I use this for soldering wires or plates onto 18650 battery cells?
Not an expert, however I believe it's not recommended. 18650s have pretty low temperature tolerances. Heating the end up hot enough to flow solder onto, even with an iron, let along hot air, would put the core of the cell well outside it's temperature limits. Doing so with a fully charged cell could have catastrophic results.
To summarise. Not recommended, seek professional advice.
Where can I get that paste that you are using
How about soldering a QFN48 SMD chip ?
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Is it advantages and economical to apply paste to the pins of the component
I think it would be trickier to do. When you do this at a larger scale, like a full board, you can buy a "solder mask stencil" with it that allows you to just paste over the mask and only the right areas get the paste. So it's much more economical that way.
sry but u took 5min to solder 1 ic, what is ur temperature setting.
Contray to a lot of comments, if you set the temp high and hit the chip hard and fast you can crack the interior. You have to build it up slowly when doing this or you will cause damage. The air starts off quite far away blowing in the general area to warm the chip and the board first, before closing in to flow.
The temp was 300 or 330 I can't remember.
Most of the time was wasted with the experiment to see if I could get the bridge to flow out with just hot air. You can't. I would not recommend attmepting to do this and just use the iron to reflow the bridge.
This way you did,the element burned 100 percent!!!
Yepp
Much too long heating the areas, it will stress the component and reduce it´s Lifetime.
@@metaluna72 for sure..for example ,if that was a rf ic,100 percent it died
what must be the temperature setting on the hot air machine ?
WOnderful! What is the temperature setting on the hot air tool? I tried to solder a 0201 resistor on a board with the tool at 350C or 400C and all I got was a little bit of smoke. I was not using solder paste however. I was suing 0.3Ag0.7Cu solder that I had pre-tinned the pads with.
Make sure and warm the surrounding board up gently. Otherwise it will just suck the heat away. Solder paste is just balls of solder suspended in flux, but the flux is really important.
Thank you Paul! I finally got solder paste in the mail from Amazon so I am going to try this out very soon! I got some 247-LOWTEMP-15 paste that says Expiry 4/8/21 so it seems to be pretty fresh. It apparently has a MP of 137 Celsius.
Maybe I'll try 130C to warm up the board and then crank it up to 250C and see what happens.
You could have used the iron in the first place for that bridge instead of risking to cook/burn the chip. But good instructional video however. Good job.
Yeah. I was experimenting. I think this was my second attempt at air soldering an IC. I wanted to see if I could pull the bridge out with just heat. Seems it not practical, the iron is much faster.
This is what I was searching for. Very helpful. 850k views!!! Damn!!! How did that happen? :) :)
Total Fluke. No idea.
@@1over137 haha! Well, I hope you got some cheddar for it. :)
So there's a hot air and a sucker?
No sucker. The tools are, Hot Air Gun, Tweezers, and flux marker pen.
Good work..all the best
I thought my little hand shake while soldering is some fault in me
I cheat. I use two hands. One to hold the tool and the other to hold that hand from shaking. It works surprisingly well, using two hands to control one very, very finely. The tweezers in these shots is moving mili-meters. The nozzle of the heat gun is moving centimetres.
What's the microscope used to record this please?
Andon star usb
I would be to anxious to do both sides of the pads back to back in fear of the part getting damaged and after a few cycles it failing :(
Tiny you said?
which hot air station? which temperature? which paste?
Cheap 858D clone. MECHANIC XG-Z40 Liquid Solder Soldering Paste. Can't remember the temp, probably 300. Andonstar ADSM201 HDMI 1080 Digital Microscope
@@1over137 hey i bought mechanic xg z40 paste but its very very solid and very hard to get out of tube... definitely not liquid... how is yours? how do you get it out of the tube (i use a plunger but its still very hard) ? thanks in advance and thanks again :)
@@HalfLife2Beta First off, keep it in the fridge, but leave it out overnight before use. I always forgot so I would warm it for a few hours in water at 30*C. I used a wide needle, applied pressure, quite a bit, then waited. You only need a very slow "ooze". Be careful though it continues to flow for a few seconds after you release the pressure and it can occasionally start going run away and flowing much faster. The amounts you need are tiny, mostly it's just contact the pad and pull away is enough to get a single "drop" on the pad.
@@1over137 after putting the needle out, the solder paste is impossible to get it out (even with incredible pressure) but if I remove the needle the paste goes without effort. I think I need to buy a soldering dispensing gun...
@@HalfLife2Beta Bigger needle.
Wow
I never want to solder with iron and spool ever again
Hi, please tell the brand of this paste.
Thanks in advance
Mechanic. AliExpress
@@1over137 thanks, how about the cleaning liquid?
Does the solder paste need refrigeration?
@@douglasflores1462 flux is CW (Circuit Works) No Clean flux pen. CW8100
@@douglasflores1462 Yes on refridgeration. At room temp it's shelf life is about 1 month. In a fridge at 5*C it should keep for a year. You have to warm it up before you use it or it's really hard to work with. A cup of water with 30*C water for an hour should work.
Well done
😀. Groovy.. Modern way to do it...😁
What paste is used? Tnx
Mechanic. AliExpress.
It's good, but it seems quite slow you can focus the heat gun on multiple points at once.
You don't want to be too fast or you risk uneven heating. But normally you would be doing many components on a board at once, so you preheat the area, then start to focus and as you move across the board it gets easier and easier for things to flow.
Every time I use a hot air gun, I run into the problem where the part starts sliding off of the pad because of the air. How do you avoid that?
Reduce the air flow ....hold the part down by applying some pressure to it.
@@Gw0wvl I tried holding with tweezers. The solder paste did not melt fast enough
First you can align properly and keep solder dots on the 4 corners with pressing SMD chip towards the PCB
Hi! What's the name of the pasta?
Solder paste reminds me of nanotechnology.
where I can buy?
Whicj glue using pls give me discription link
Flux? No?
Sir Why Paste....?
I was learning how to use paste. Can't learn how to use paste without using paste!
Desculpe a ignorância. Mas que material foi usado?
Cheap 858D clone. MECHANIC XG-Z40 Liquid Solder Soldering Paste. Can't remember the temp, probably 300. Andonstar ADSM201 HDMI 1080 Digital Microscope
Кто скажет ,сколько выдержит смд элемент нагрев термофеном?Встречал микросхемы у которых низ припаян к плате ,и пока не отогреешь с обратной стороны ,хрен снимешь.Ноги отпаять и паяльником можно.
That chip died in worst paint at the end. Beside that very good instruction video!
This is really an improper way to do this, yes it technically works but so would a blow torch or throwing it on a frying pan. Solder paste is designed to be reflowed according to a specific temperature profile, thats why it comes with a little card that shows you what temperatures it needs to be brought to, how long it should be soaked at those times, and how quickly it needs to be cooled. A stencil is $7 and you can buy a decent enough reflow over for $250. Doing it like this youre just over heating everything, putting undue stress on the solder joints, etc
Maybe, but it works. If you do one single board every few months, it's just not feasible to buy and store a reflow oven. Besides, what do you do if you are only soldering part of a board for repair? This is why the heat guns are often referred to a a solder re-work station.
So professional board manufacturers will indeed use stenils, reflow ovens and pick and place machines. It doesn't mean you "need" to to get stuff that works. If I was making a pace maker or a heart monitor for a hospital I expect I wouldn't do it this way, but if I've only fried one chip as it just wouldn't flow due to bad technique and you what? It cost me 39 pence.
yeah real professionals just buy a fab and make a new chip instead, amirite? pfft, amateur!
@@masskiller9206 Uh, no. A $6 stencil and a $200 reflow oven will do just fine
@@MichiganSynthWorks www.bankrate.com/pdfs/pr/20170112-January-Money-Pulse.pdf there's a lot of people that don't have the money for that but for you maybe that's great.
You might want to argue with the experts on this. Try Dave, for example:
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Buen video dónde sé consigue la soldadura
How many degrees was the air used?
A quanti gradi è stata usata l'aria?
how to do it with 88i6745-TFJ1
Is that flux the grey colour?
It's solder paste. A gel make of solder balls and flux.
Oke thx now i have know it, what kind of name for desoldering tool ?
@@goojoe1974 858D Soldering station
Result looks so perfect
This is far from perfect!!!
IC not centered and the pads not fully covered with solder. Exposed copper tarnishes. Job took far too long. Not perfect.
Is it just or others are ignoring the fact that there a short on the first two pins
If you watch to the end. I fix that. First trying to see if you can do it with just air and flux, finding out it doesn't work and using more flux and the iron to remove the bridge.
What is name that flux
Paste using name? Or Company
good video I liked it what's the brand of solder paste please Paul?
Cheap chinese stuff on ebay. "Mechanic" was the brand.
Thanks for the reply mate got some on order Xg40.
@@kalexander841 I recommend storing it in the fridge and leaving it out for 12 hours before use. If you forget, like I did, use a cup of warm 30*C water for an hour to warm it. The warmer it is the easier it is to squeeze down the needle (which you buy separately)
Paul Campbell appreciate the tip 👍
excellent job with the 2 pins that were bridged.
You'll like this :)
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Actually this package can be soldered with the iron preatty easily.
.... I don't see where they said it couldn't ... it's just a demonstration.
5 минут паять корпус SO-16? Да вы что? Паяльником паяется максимум 30 сек
Потрясающе. Ну так запили свой туториал. Почему-то по запросу "SMD soldering" я попал на этого неудачника, а не на тебя, полубога пайки.
It looks OK but for industrial, say professional production of electronics this takes much to long.
When I have to solder such a SO16 to a board I can do it in 30-40 seconds. And use the same method, solder paste and a hot air.
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