What A Shambles! How The Media Got It SERIOUSLY Wrong About The Tesla Model 2
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- The media reports were clear: Tesla were going to cancel the Model 2. Only it didn't happen. In fact, Elon Musk has doubled down on Tesla's budget electric vehicle. So what went wrong? And why do people still believe such dubious reports. To find out what's REALLY going on, stick around as Dave Takes It On.
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To quote a British PM (WC):
"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
2024 might as well be the year of the chicken because all of legacy auto is about to get stuffed
they already are. thanks to china of course. Some have done things, the French makers especially seem to understand and the Renault 5 really looks a killer car for a lot in that 22K price range given how cheap EV's are to maintain etc. To note I have the MG4 and just love it and so easy to drive and no maintenance.
@@ianrob4760 If I was going to buy today it would be an MG4, looks nice with a real interior unlike Tesla. That said, like the majority I still don't see Lithium batteries in cars as good enough. EV sales have fallen off a cliff as people like me are a much harder sell.
@@Battleneter firstly battery tech will change of course and this is still in its infancy. Second not called off a cliff at all, mine is a company car and thats where the real market is now. There again anyone who buys a new car outright needs to wobble their brains !!
Getting it right doesn’t generate outrage and therefore website clicks. It’s a grift pure and simple.
Conversely: realistic, detailed, verifiable statements from the CEOs of overvalued companies don't maintain share price. I think this one is a Rorschach test.
The Elon Musk appreciation channel!
Yay starship...erm hang on. Wahoo hyperloop. Oh..err. Big up the Semi! Ahhh. Solar roof? X? Ermmm it's not going well is it Elon.
@@gsnowdon3627 Neuralink, human telepathy, Boring Company...... and best of all, cash burning machine SpaceX. All non-profits burning other peoples money.
Fewer cars. Sold fewer cars.
He's an electricity zealot, the faith is strong, the language is weak.
Interesting timing for this update, as it's reported today that the heads of Charging and New Product Initiatives have been laid off, together with the entire Supercharger team. If the strategy is to pivot to the autonomous taxi business, you really don't need new models, a simplified, stripped out and ruggedised version of the existing cars would do just fine. Interesting times...
As soon as Reuters released that story Elon confirmed that Reuters are "lying again"... Simple and they were.
Robotaxi. NOPE. If a business produces a cheap vehicle that can essentially print money while you sleep, they DO NOT sell it. THEY make that money. FSD is years away.
Alternative hypothesis: Reuters was correct. Elon changed his mind.
Elon did, in fact, postpone plans for a Model 2 to focus on robotaxi, optimus,and other share price pump hypes (we're an AI company, don't think of Tesla as a car manufacturer). He incorrectly judged market sentiment.
Shareholders were skeptical of this plan (a flood of cheap EVs is near; Tesla risks contraction) and as a result, shares plunged.
Having realised he incorrectly judged market sentiment, he hastily reversed course and cobbled together a plausible plan for a cheaper car (or at least an announcement of a plan) to placate investors and therefore stop the share price spiralling.
That cheaper car might not even be the initially envisaged/speculated/hyped Model 2 - just something cheaper than Model 3 that, in the minds of enough investors, can or might be delivered in 2025. The problem of share price is deferred and the board survives another day.
Your thoughts, disproof, etc.?
The Reuters article 5 April is still up and has no retraction printed on it. Was Dave being correct and honest at 1:46 when he said Reuters had "done a retraction on it"?
Musk has already admitted it won't be 25k as initially promised.
I can see it being 32k in the US
Because getting it right doesn't serve the short sellers?
Don’t forget Dave by posting all the stuff you do you’re now part of the MEDIA………so I do hope there’s no bias to your reporting.
My understanding is: cheaper models based on the Model 3/Y platform coming soon. Model 2 platform further off - certainly not this year
Model 3 body (Amortized, "cheap")
"Unboxed" casting assembly
48v, steering, brakes.
Single motor
Low power (lower!)
50kWh pack.
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All the advantages.
Testbed for systems.
Recession proof.
Cheers Dave
Hi Dave, have you any updates on Tesla Supercharger at Walton Summit?
FSD still has some little problems
Supervised FSD v12.3.6 - Unprotected Left Turns
Chuck Cook
Hi. So many newly opened Tesla chargers today for non Tesla cars!!!!! Fantastic.
I’m not sure many people are going to allow their cars be rented out to drunks coming out of bars and clubs at all hours of the night. Also, not sure how the cars will know where to park to collect these people, if they do.
Media didn't get it wrong, they got it right and it angered Elon who doubled down saying they are wrong and media shot back saying they have several sources within Tesla confirming the news. Elon acting like a man child yet again.
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Over your last two or three videos all you have spoken about is Tesla. Even the one you did about people looking for chargers every day when they cannot charge at home you suggested they go and look for the nearest Tesla chargers open to all. They may be a bit cheaper but there are none close enough to me. Any chance you can stop fixating on Tesla? I cannot charge at home but I use the local Tesco 7kw chargers but it takes me three sessions to completely fill the battery pack as the limit for parking is three hours or you get fined. I drive a Zoe ZE50 and the only rapid chargers near to me are BP Pulse which costs 69p a kw.
FSD maybe nearly ready in the US where the AI has learnt most of the exceptions but in e.g. Europe I would think there’s still quite a learning curve to deal the different conditions there.
So, you're a "Driver".
You pass your test... You're barely "Ok", but you drive ("practice") in your country for a period.
You get to be a "reasonable" driver.
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*THEN* you feel confident to drive in another country.
The skills you have reduce the learning curve by ... 80(?) percent?
In a short time you're at the same standard as in your own country.
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(If you'd tried 1 month after passing your test.... ? Terrible?)
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FSD will be "experienced" when it arrives in Europe (then UK, etc)
They *CAN*
BUT they dont want to.
Dave, presume you seen more V4 chargers from Tesla have been opened up recently, Where I live we had two lots and now 4.
Tesla lays off the entire super charger team. 500 staff gone.
What is the impact?
I can’t see FSD coming yet for a while first government has to allow it but the big one is insurance companies have to feel safe with the idea. One bad accident in the early period would kill it overnight so they have to be sure it’s going to work and be safe.
It's insane that Elon thinks robotaxis will work. My model s can't even do basic driver assistant properly, or even half acceptable...
Robotaxi - how much will insurance be in the uk if you start using your car as a taxi that drives itself. I would imagine it will cost more than you would make as a taxi.
How does Tesla plan to solve this. Will they provide insurance and cover and automation related accidents. Etc…
Musk has been promising Robo taxis every year since 2016 , even saying its ready now in bloody 2016. The reality is full self driving will still not pass scrutiny in most countries and states of the US. The claims of later this year (again) is 100% about propping up the plummeting Tesla share price $$, Musk needed "something" so turned to the old self driving chestnut.
yet I have seen probably 100 videos of Teslas in California happily doing hour long drives without any driver intervention. How do you explain that? And how did they just get a licence in China? And how are they testing FSD in Europe?
i think you need a channel name change to dave talks tesla always tesla one min it right then it wrong you belive it then you dont
Hi, Dave slightly off the subject that you have been just talking about. I was talking to a guy doing private hire. And he said he's got a Tesla, but he says, if Tesla took over the all the charges completely, there would be no worries about not having them working. And the network in every car to give you the same situation.Planning for charging you could buy any EV.And there would be no issue at all about range
I suppose its wrong that Tesla has now laid off 500 supercharger employees and a email sent to all employees warning they might be next. More lay offs to be what "a better business"? Pull the other one.
Hi Dave are you aware that the open superchargers have been hugely expanded?.Ie there are now a much greater number of sites available. This is now evident on the Tesla website.
It may be due to building them in Mexico, now if Trump gets in he said their would be a huge import duty on cars build outside USA, so maybe that’s why Elon may build inside US or not send them to the US, or he waits to see who gets the white house seat
You are a cad and a bounder Dave. I have just read todays. 1st May. Daily mail to find out that the day after my Ioniq5 8yr warranty expires I will have to buy a new battery pack costing around £44,000 . Why didn’t you warn us?
Too expensive to buy too expensive to run stick to Diesel or petrol half the price.
I don't know where you buy your diesel but my cost per mile charging at home is 2.5p, that's equivalent to a diesel car doing 275mpg.
@@davetakesiton that’s charging at home at night when you get seven hours at the cheap rate, you won’t be charging a car during the day for that. Just go and charge with a Bp pulse fifty five pounds for one charge and you only get around one hundred and seventy miles for that. So don’t tell me that an electric car is cheaper because it’s bloody ridiculous the price of charging.
8,8,2025 I think but I could be wrong
Using other people's cars as taxis, who will pay for the business insurance they will require for their car... Unless Tesla offers that as part of the package people won't let their cars out.
Tesla offers insurance on about 26 states currently
If Tesla only uses cameras for FSD, I see the insurance being huge.
Try being another insurance company "arguing the toss" against the company insuring the Tesla with full data regarding the "incident"?
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Are the odds, statistically 50:50, going to swing in your favour? Or against?
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No more "knock for knock".
Statistically, the Tesla will "win".
Non Tesla insurers will be out of pocket, with no way out.
If the car owners can make money when they don’t need the car, and don’t need to spend their own time, you will be surprised. I will try with family first, my kids and my elderly parents who are no longer safe to drive.
Tesla made me join membership to charge my hyundai inoiq 5 at dorking supercharger i only charge once a month so may be not worth it ive payed the membership for first month see our it gos all the tesla drivers love it
You don’t have to have a membership it is just that it will cost you less if you do.but if you only charge once a month, then it is not worth paying for the membership
@@Sp_75-76 thank you for reply 👍
And now there's redundancies in Tesla's supercharger company. Truth or not?
Most likely not, the media never gets anything right
Why do you try to guess what's going to happen. Get a job as a weathermen they get it wrong as much as you.
Tesla have it all going on 👌
Except crap build quality
If you're a taxi driver start looking for a new job
First 😅
Bloomberg do not like Elon always negative hope they go bankrupt
Tesla will have a great FSD and quite possibly the Robo Taxi this year, but only in the US/Canada. In the UK I would like to see how much of what has been learnt can easily be used for the RHD market. I would love to have the option of FSD even supervised, but not sure I would want my vehicle to be taken over as a taxi.
If you have let's say 5-10 experience years driving in the Uk, can you adapt to LHD countries reasonably quickly?
@@rogerstarkey5390 I have no problem swapping to drive LHD carsbut just wondering how the AI is. I hope it should be easy and then it will work fully when we get it and that will hopefully be earlier!
Hello mate The media have a job to do 😆
C'mon Dave, have you been offered a horse? Be truthful.
I am guessing it was some Shorter goosing the share price (that Elon does not care about). Bigger news that no one is talking about is Mercedes, Ford and GM having huge sales and revenue misses 1st Quarter 2024. [Mercedes down over 35% year on year]
Anyone who gets in a driverless taxi is off his tiny mind, like people who get on battery buses, aka mobile crematoria.
What's to stop Reuters from dissing Tesla, buying up shares due to the reduction in market price and making a killing when the story is retracted and the share price goes up again? I'm not saying that it's true, just a motivation for press barons to make more money.
You also said it was scrapped. WRONG again