The code is wrong in the video. Apparently it's evrc50-2 ... Also regarding the chain. Just before it came off I went over a few potholes. Fiido recommend you don't pedal whilst going over major bumps and that should prevent it coming off. I did go over other pot holes and the chain stayed on. All the links are in the description 🤟👍
@@TheSpecialCostumeShop ebikes don't require insurance. Mopeds depend on the model of moped. In restricted mode this bike is an ebike. Unrestricted you'd have to get modifications such as indicators/turn signals in order to get it classified as a moped.
Legally, if you have the option to select "unrestricted" from the bikes controller, it is an unrestricted e-bike. Claiming that option is only for use on private property will have the judge falling out of their chair laughing at that nonsense. It's all very fine until you hit me or my property or anyone connected with me or their property and I make it my mission to sue you for everything you've got because you haven't got insurance. That is the reality of using an e-bike with unrestricted capabilities.
@@e-VRC I just bought a 50cc moped that's been de-restricted (41mph top speed) and the insurance was £403.25 a year for 2 riders. I am retiring my diy bike and will be riding something road legal from now on 😂. Somehow it's legal to derestrict a moped but when you do it to an ebike the government act like you've strapped a jet engine onto your bicycle.
@@tconnolly9820 good luck going after an ebike rider if they crash into you 😂. They'll likely get back on their bike and ride off down an alley never to be seen again. Police aren't interested anyway. I've bought a 50cc moped that's been de-restricted so I don't have to ride illegal bikes anymore, had an A1 motorcycle license for years and just never used it until now.
Great video, I won’t one of these. Putting a motorcycle saddle on the back use it with myself and my wife on the back as a runabout from the motorhome.
Thanks for the comments on the Shimano altus. I'll keep that in mind after testing mine. I may opt for an 8-speed cassette system to better cover the top end. (Also, I'm considering a narrow-wide chain ring if retention is an issue. No reason not to on a 1x groupset.)😃
Yeah I didn't expect them to be that good and yeah I suppose you're right. I saw 40 as heavy but for the size and carrying ability I suppose it isn't really.
I saw that review, sadly he did not follow his normal practice of weighing the bike without the battery, so I am not sure if that weight is with or without battery. The reason I consider it light is because my ebike weighs 43 KG with the battery installed.
I like your uphill test. Can you do a review for Fiido L3? In unlocked mod. Please!!! Everyone says it's a pocket rocket. And I would like to see it go up that hill unlocked! Thank you😊
I cycle an average of 3000km a year. But I'm an adult and I know the difference between a car and a bike. That's why I need both and no fairy tales about the "car killer".
I'm always interested in new tech like this. It's even more enjoyable when I search it in TH-cam then find you have a review on it. Thanks awesome as always
I have the Fiido T1 and the controller bounces around in the casing under the battery so put some some foam in there to suppress it. Sounds like this one can benefit from that too
Great review as usual! Certainly a car replacer. Not too heavy for such an ebike. I look forward to your longer term use and testing of this. Using a key is okay for security but an alarm would have been great to be a deterrent, especially if you are quickly nipping to a shop. quickly. I currently have an Eskuta SX-250 and with that the best way to use the central kickstand is to stand by your bike, holding both sides of the handlebar, put your foot down on the stand so it touches the floor... Depending on the grip of the surface the kickstand will grip to the floor allowing you to pull the bike back so it's on it's stand. If the surface is slippy, like tile or polished concrete then you can use your foot when you push the stand down, put your behind the stand, which you'd let you pull the bike back on to the stand.
Cheers. I had a go with the kick stand thing - also from my experience with an sx250. It's doable but took a fraction longer. Useful if you don't want to lift it though. I LOVED the immobilizer on the Eskuta. Pulling up to a shop and just tapping the button and walking in was brilliant.
Great video. Thanks. How has the chain been after longer use? Also, there's alot of negative reviews online about customer service from the maker. Did you have any issues?
This bike look brilliant and just what I need! Great review btw... only thing is they are advising not shipping to the UK until 15th of August!! I know you did a video saying your favourite bike was the Engwe L20, how would you compare them both and would you advise this one over the Engwe L20 if you had the choice? Thanks
If you need to do the extra stuff that this bike can do then go for this one. If you don't need to carry so much stuff and the extra size may be a hindrance then go for the L20.
I ordered one a few days back, I assumed it would arrive after 15th August. However, have just had an email saying they expect it to be dispatched from the UK warehouse around 20th July. So... a little bit better.
im torn between getting this and the coswheel m20 - i know the longtail has much more capacity but i don't think i'd use the extra space more than a couple of times a year - and i cannot find ANY reviews online for the m20
The Coswheel looks cool and very futuristic. Specs look about the same so it's a case of which you like the look of and then deciding if the extra abilities of the T2 are worth putting up with the extra size and weight when using normally. Weight isn't really an issue when riding but it's definitely going to be tougher to maneuver by hand. It may be that you end up utilising the abilities a lot more because you can. I can't see the price of the M20 as it's not loading but the T2 is great value.
@@keithholderness1345 I would say travelling speed would more likely attract police attention than a passenger but obviously it depends. A lot of people carry passengers on cargo and normal ebikes. It's a normal sight.
@@e-VRC the M20 is supposed to be 900 which is why I'm so interested, looks like a solid bike with hydraulic disks for under a grand appreciate the replies gents! I live in a city centre so cops don't really care about e bikes because of all the delivery drivers on them I'll keep my eyes peeled over next couple of months if there's any other budget bikes that comes out. Keep up the work brother!
What do you normally do with the bikes after reviewing? Do you have to send them back to the manufacturer? Asking mainly because you mentioned you're keeping this one.
Is this bike technically legal in the UK when the speed limit is locked at 15.5 miles per hour? What about the 750 watt rear wheel drive motor, would that make it not legal to ride on public roads?
The way I see it is that the law makers don't really understand how motors and power work. Even the wording in the gov website is wrong. Therefore I see it like mopeds and 125 motorbikes. They can all be derestricted to be faster than they're legally allowed once riders have the relevant licence. Therefore if the speed is locked down on en ebike I see it as a similar story. Now someone may come along and say the law is the law and it's not up to me and they would be right. But if the law were followed to the letter there wouldn't be any legal ebikes. Therefore they can't confiscate all the ebikes on the road so they could concentrate on the riders who are riding irresponsibly on blatantly illegal ebikes.
@@e-VRC Thanks for the reply. It looks a great option for an e cargo bike at a fantastic price and very tempting if I can overcome the 'legality' of it. Excellent video!
@@e-VRC125 motorbikes aren't speed restricted at all, it's just the top end power that's restricted to 11kw. With a few modifications a lot can be made to do nearly 100mph and it would be perfectly legal as long as the rider has a valid CBT.
60nm is what my ipoo snow bike (amazon uk shipping £819) has😮 Not gonna lie, seems like a bargain in comparison 🤔 18 miles range at 26mph on a single 48v 2400amph battery 🔋 👌 and i live on top of a DAMN big hill, so the end of every journey it has approx 200m EV hill over 1 mile, DONE 3500 miles now, a loose pedal and 3 punctures the only issues 😊👌
What is the practical use of a 'keyed' ebike? You think the motor not turning on will prevent someone from taking it? Keyed motorbikes work because a locked motorbike is to heavy to quickly throw in the back of a van. But even motorbikes will need additional locks if you're leaving it unattended. I ride round with a thick chainlink lock on my ebike, I lock my bike like I would lock any other bike and I don't even care about leaving my controller/motor on when I enter the supermarket. Not like someone would get on it and ride away with it, right.. only thing I could imagine is some smart kiddo being bored and trying to mess with my settings, but rather then a key I would sooner install a hidden power switch no chance to lose or forget the key.
Hidden power switch sounds cool or basically an old style immobilizer but yeah mainly because of the kids messing with it during the day if you leave it with the battery. Some bikes don't have removable batteries. Some kid could just rev it for ages if they wanted to. I had the Eskuta sx250 which locked the wheels when on and it was heavy so if you were just popping into a shop you could just pull up outside and leave it there it was amazing but yeah if I was at work I'd still lock it up but the convenience is massive. Imagine maybe for a delivery rider.
@@e-VRC There is so much theft currently of decent ebikes, I just wouldn't dare it convenience or not. The least I would take is both an electronic circuit braking thing ( like a key or hidden button, don't really care ) AND or in combination with a steering lock. The hidden button can also be needing a combination of brake and holding a key to turn it on, just as long as it's not predictable so user configurable. Then, if you have a really heavy bike, it might be worth it over an u-lock for deliveries since you should be able to mount those an a delivery bike and they are quicker as a fidgety chain lock. You really do need a good weight and a good steering lock if you want to rely on those even for short convenience stops at the grocery store. At least here, I seen to many bikes get stolen especially nice one's in plain broad daylight even.
Do you know what child seat would fit this bike? On the website you can buy a child safety fence but not a seat. However, they do have images with a child’s seat fitted.
@michaelnedsmar9106 they are bad quality. Mine broke in 4 months. The parts come from Honk Kong and take over 1 months at the very least to deliver. Customer service is mega slow too. If you will buy an Ebike I will recommend to get one from a US based company. Even if you have to pay a lil more is worth it in the long run. Those imported bikes are a pain to maintain and get parts and technicians will tell you the same thing. This is based on my experience.
Wrong. They claimed responsibility for a fault in one particular model. That's admirable of them and would of cost a fortune. A generic Chinese manufacturer wouldn't of done such a thing. They would leave you with junk whereas fiido gave customers a whole new bike replacement. It's a good company. Even when it comes to buying spare parts, the option is there - making the longevity of your ebike much more if it ever does have a fault in years to come
Hey that was you in the van? 😂👍👍 I have an FB marketplace link in the description I only usually sell one at a time. It's the Onesport OT16-2 at the moment from a couple videos back.
The code is wrong in the video. Apparently it's evrc50-2 ...
Also regarding the chain. Just before it came off I went over a few potholes. Fiido recommend you don't pedal whilst going over major bumps and that should prevent it coming off. I did go over other pot holes and the chain stayed on.
All the links are in the description 🤟👍
@@TheSpecialCostumeShop ebikes don't require insurance. Mopeds depend on the model of moped. In restricted mode this bike is an ebike. Unrestricted you'd have to get modifications such as indicators/turn signals in order to get it classified as a moped.
@@e-VRC Thank you very much
Legally, if you have the option to select "unrestricted" from the bikes controller, it is an unrestricted e-bike. Claiming that option is only for use on private property will have the judge falling out of their chair laughing at that nonsense.
It's all very fine until you hit me or my property or anyone connected with me or their property and I make it my mission to sue you for everything you've got because you haven't got insurance.
That is the reality of using an e-bike with unrestricted capabilities.
@@e-VRC I just bought a 50cc moped that's been de-restricted (41mph top speed) and the insurance was £403.25 a year for 2 riders. I am retiring my diy bike and will be riding something road legal from now on 😂. Somehow it's legal to derestrict a moped but when you do it to an ebike the government act like you've strapped a jet engine onto your bicycle.
@@tconnolly9820 good luck going after an ebike rider if they crash into you 😂. They'll likely get back on their bike and ride off down an alley never to be seen again. Police aren't interested anyway.
I've bought a 50cc moped that's been de-restricted so I don't have to ride illegal bikes anymore, had an A1 motorcycle license for years and just never used it until now.
Just ordered one of these. It will be a bit of a wait, but I am excited. I will use this bike to make deliveries from my market garden.
I bet you're watching all available videos to fill time 😂 seems like it will be perfect for that with the right accessories 👍👍
@marc did your bike arrived? Can your share your opinion about the bike?
Great video, I won’t one of these. Putting a motorcycle saddle on the back use it with myself and my wife on the back as a runabout from the motorhome.
That sounds like an amazing idea 💡
Thanks for the comments on the Shimano altus. I'll keep that in mind after testing mine. I may opt for an 8-speed cassette system to better cover the top end. (Also, I'm considering a narrow-wide chain ring if retention is an issue. No reason not to on a 1x groupset.)😃
An interesting cargo ebike. It seems surprisingly light at 40KG for such a long bike. The brakes are very impressive.
Yeah I didn't expect them to be that good and yeah I suppose you're right. I saw 40 as heavy but for the size and carrying ability I suppose it isn't really.
@@e-VRC40kg is nothing, my moped weighs 120kg and that's before the petrol has been put in
I saw that review, sadly he did not follow his normal practice of weighing the bike without the battery, so I am not sure if that weight is with or without battery.
The reason I consider it light is because my ebike weighs 43 KG with the battery installed.
I like your uphill test.
Can you do a review for Fiido L3? In unlocked mod. Please!!! Everyone says it's a pocket rocket. And I would like to see it go up that hill unlocked! Thank you😊
I cycle an average of 3000km a year. But I'm an adult and I know the difference between a car and a bike. That's why I need both and no fairy tales about the "car killer".
Nice one
I'm always interested in new tech like this. It's even more enjoyable when I search it in TH-cam then find you have a review on it. Thanks awesome as always
Ah thanks for watching 👍🤟
thank you from france brother. Really appreciate the test. I'll use your link ;)
I have the Fiido T1 and the controller bounces around in the casing under the battery so put some some foam in there to suppress it. Sounds like this one can benefit from that too
🎵 *"Rocket Maaan"* 🎵
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Another nice review!
Your son has so much natural charisma! 👌🏽
Yay you got it 🤟👍 aah thanks I'll tell him. He randomly did that and asked for it to be left in.
Great review as usual! Certainly a car replacer. Not too heavy for such an ebike. I look forward to your longer term use and testing of this.
Using a key is okay for security but an alarm would have been great to be a deterrent, especially if you are quickly nipping to a shop. quickly.
I currently have an Eskuta SX-250 and with that the best way to use the central kickstand is to stand by your bike, holding both sides of the handlebar, put your foot down on the stand so it touches the floor... Depending on the grip of the surface the kickstand will grip to the floor allowing you to pull the bike back so it's on it's stand. If the surface is slippy, like tile or polished concrete then you can use your foot when you push the stand down, put your behind the stand, which you'd let you pull the bike back on to the stand.
Cheers. I had a go with the kick stand thing - also from my experience with an sx250. It's doable but took a fraction longer. Useful if you don't want to lift it though. I LOVED the immobilizer on the Eskuta. Pulling up to a shop and just tapping the button and walking in was brilliant.
One of my favorite things with my cargo is the kickstand, how you can just sit on it when parked.
Yeah that is a cool feature 🤟
Is this legal for road use in the UK given motor size and potential speed? Will plod seize and crush?
Not legal in the UK. Fiido's sale of this bike in the UK is misleading and possibly illegal. This is a moped!
Good to see you riding about in Bama. Roll Tide!
great video, planning on getting one to take my children to school
hi mate, great video. Do you reckon you can fit 2x baby seats on the back?
Great video. Thanks. How has the chain been after longer use? Also, there's alot of negative reviews online about customer service from the maker. Did you have any issues?
This bike look brilliant and just what I need! Great review btw... only thing is they are advising not shipping to the UK until 15th of August!! I know you did a video saying your favourite bike was the Engwe L20, how would you compare them both and would you advise this one over the Engwe L20 if you had the choice? Thanks
If you need to do the extra stuff that this bike can do then go for this one. If you don't need to carry so much stuff and the extra size may be a hindrance then go for the L20.
I ordered one a few days back, I assumed it would arrive after 15th August. However, have just had an email saying they expect it to be dispatched from the UK warehouse around 20th July. So... a little bit better.
I really want to see how much space this has with two kids on it, i have a 6 year old and a 3 year old and want something for the school run
@@superdannyj I have the stuff. Will have a video in a few weeks
@@e-VRC cool ill subscribe so i can see it thanks
it would also be interesting to see how it compares to the radwagon 4
@@e-VRC looking forward to this video. You're making me seriously consider this bike!
BIG UP WV! NICE REVEWS MATE
Cheers!
Perfect looking bike and price. But is the motor a long lasting one? Last E-bike I got with same power motor, motor failed within a few hundred miles.
im torn between getting this and the coswheel m20 - i know the longtail has much more capacity but i don't think i'd use the extra space more than a couple of times a year - and i cannot find ANY reviews online for the m20
The Coswheel looks cool and very futuristic. Specs look about the same so it's a case of which you like the look of and then deciding if the extra abilities of the T2 are worth putting up with the extra size and weight when using normally. Weight isn't really an issue when riding but it's definitely going to be tougher to maneuver by hand. It may be that you end up utilising the abilities a lot more because you can. I can't see the price of the M20 as it's not loading but the T2 is great value.
If you carry a passenger on this aren't you just asking to be stopped by the police?
@@keithholderness1345 I would say travelling speed would more likely attract police attention than a passenger but obviously it depends. A lot of people carry passengers on cargo and normal ebikes. It's a normal sight.
@@e-VRC the M20 is supposed to be 900 which is why I'm so interested, looks like a solid bike with hydraulic disks for under a grand
appreciate the replies gents! I live in a city centre so cops don't really care about e bikes because of all the delivery drivers on them
I'll keep my eyes peeled over next couple of months if there's any other budget bikes that comes out. Keep up the work brother!
@@tjwtf28 yeah it loaded eventually it looks great for the price TBF. If the quality is as good as the Coswheel I have then you'll get a good bike.
How did you connect to the app, please?
What is a dimensions of back rack? (Wood surface). Thankst
Love the belly handle bar15:36
What do you normally do with the bikes after reviewing? Do you have to send them back to the manufacturer? Asking mainly because you mentioned you're keeping this one.
Does the bike have a throttle and whats it top speed unlocked
It has a throttle - unlocked idk, but I hit 30mph regularly without unlimiting. Which is fast enough on roads imho
Do you have any accessories for sale for this bike?
Im 6ft,can I have my toes bearly touching the floor with the seatpost at its highest?
Try doing the centre stand thing on a 150kg Yamaha Nmax scooter..
Can you do the m1 pro next
Is this bike technically legal in the UK when the speed limit is locked at 15.5 miles per hour? What about the 750 watt rear wheel drive motor, would that make it not legal to ride on public roads?
The way I see it is that the law makers don't really understand how motors and power work. Even the wording in the gov website is wrong. Therefore I see it like mopeds and 125 motorbikes. They can all be derestricted to be faster than they're legally allowed once riders have the relevant licence. Therefore if the speed is locked down on en ebike I see it as a similar story. Now someone may come along and say the law is the law and it's not up to me and they would be right. But if the law were followed to the letter there wouldn't be any legal ebikes. Therefore they can't confiscate all the ebikes on the road so they could concentrate on the riders who are riding irresponsibly on blatantly illegal ebikes.
@@e-VRC Thanks for the reply. It looks a great option for an e cargo bike at a fantastic price and very tempting if I can overcome the 'legality' of it. Excellent video!
No not at all legal. Good fun though
@@e-VRC125 motorbikes aren't speed restricted at all, it's just the top end power that's restricted to 11kw. With a few modifications a lot can be made to do nearly 100mph and it would be perfectly legal as long as the rider has a valid CBT.
Do you have any plans to review the Himiway Zebra?
Great video... nice bike 💪
Cheers! Agreed
60nm is what my ipoo snow bike (amazon uk shipping £819) has😮
Not gonna lie, seems like a bargain in comparison 🤔 18 miles range at 26mph on a single 48v 2400amph battery 🔋 👌 and i live on top of a DAMN big hill, so the end of every journey it has approx 200m EV hill over 1 mile, DONE 3500 miles now, a loose pedal and 3 punctures the only issues 😊👌
Considering the time it up the hill, it's impressive for 60NM
Looking into this to put a dog crete with a 25kg dog on the back
Should be fine as long as the dog doesn't/can't jump out 👍
These cargo bikes should have a mid drive kit, so much more torque and can be much less watts.
Yeah mid drive is perfect for these.
Getting one to take my boy to school…no sitting in traffic 👍🏻
Exactly how I use it. Absolutely love it.
@@e-VRC absolutely brilliant..great video mate.a real help 👍🏻
Do you know any company who will sell me this on the cycle2work scheme please?
You shouldn't buy this bike in the UK because its sale is misleading and possibly illegal.
What is the practical use of a 'keyed' ebike? You think the motor not turning on will prevent someone from taking it? Keyed motorbikes work because a locked motorbike is to heavy to quickly throw in the back of a van. But even motorbikes will need additional locks if you're leaving it unattended.
I ride round with a thick chainlink lock on my ebike, I lock my bike like I would lock any other bike and I don't even care about leaving my controller/motor on when I enter the supermarket. Not like someone would get on it and ride away with it, right.. only thing I could imagine is some smart kiddo being bored and trying to mess with my settings, but rather then a key I would sooner install a hidden power switch no chance to lose or forget the key.
Hidden power switch sounds cool or basically an old style immobilizer but yeah mainly because of the kids messing with it during the day if you leave it with the battery. Some bikes don't have removable batteries. Some kid could just rev it for ages if they wanted to. I had the Eskuta sx250 which locked the wheels when on and it was heavy so if you were just popping into a shop you could just pull up outside and leave it there it was amazing but yeah if I was at work I'd still lock it up but the convenience is massive. Imagine maybe for a delivery rider.
@@e-VRC There is so much theft currently of decent ebikes, I just wouldn't dare it convenience or not.
The least I would take is both an electronic circuit braking thing ( like a key or hidden button, don't really care ) AND or in combination with a steering lock.
The hidden button can also be needing a combination of brake and holding a key to turn it on, just as long as it's not predictable so user configurable.
Then, if you have a really heavy bike, it might be worth it over an u-lock for deliveries since you should be able to mount those an a delivery bike and they are quicker as a fidgety chain lock.
You really do need a good weight and a good steering lock if you want to rely on those even for short convenience stops at the grocery store. At least here, I seen to many bikes get stolen especially nice one's in plain broad daylight even.
Do you know what child seat would fit this bike? On the website you can buy a child safety fence but not a seat. However, they do have images with a child’s seat fitted.
I think they're sorting out the accessories and will have them on the site soon. I'll ask them about the seats.
Sweet home Alabama 😂 great video!!
@@JackRM7 cheers!
Nice one!
Cheers!
Would it be possible to transport three young children with this bike?
I'm sure I replied to this. Same question on a different video maybe?
That's not a tensioner, it's an idler. That's because it's not sprung.
Cheers. Still learning 👍👍
Cargo bikes are great 👍
Agreed!
... and completely illegal under the RTA1988 😁
Great video and review.
It may be the lease to travel that an old fart with a buggered hip like me might need.
😂😂😅 Ebikes like this are perfect for buggered hips! 🤟👍
Synch long tail monkey with sissy bar for the passenger comfort win 🏆
😮BIG OIL is gona get the spanners out in parliament! Shaking on their oil platforms 😂😂😂
Why would they do that, bike riders don't even make them their money because of how fuel efficient they are.
Uber on it
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☆☆☆☆☆
Fiido is the worst brand in the ebike market. Do not buy.
Can I ask why?
I'm torn between this bike😮 and the Engwe long bike
@michaelnedsmar9106 they are bad quality. Mine broke in 4 months. The parts come from Honk Kong and take over 1 months at the very least to deliver. Customer service is mega slow too. If you will buy an Ebike I will recommend to get one from a US based company. Even if you have to pay a lil more is worth it in the long run. Those imported bikes are a pain to maintain and get parts and technicians will tell you the same thing. This is based on my experience.
Fiido are an awful brand with terrible customer service, multiple past recalls for other bikes (Including T1 frames that snap)
Wrong. They claimed responsibility for a fault in one particular model. That's admirable of them and would of cost a fortune. A generic Chinese manufacturer wouldn't of done such a thing. They would leave you with junk whereas fiido gave customers a whole new bike replacement. It's a good company. Even when it comes to buying spare parts, the option is there - making the longevity of your ebike much more if it ever does have a fault in years to come
Saw you making this video and was hoping I’d see myself on one finally lol
Interested to see if you have any e-bikes for sale mate
Cheers 👍
Hey that was you in the van? 😂👍👍 I have an FB marketplace link in the description I only usually sell one at a time. It's the Onesport OT16-2 at the moment from a couple videos back.
@@e-VRC yer mate that was me
You did wave back, with no clue who I was 😂
Thank you will keep my eye out on there 👍