WHAT HAPPENED to Warhammer 40k Dawn of War?

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  • Hey there guys! Here is my video for the Warhammer 40000 Dawn of War Trilogy, I put multiple weeks into collecting all sources, scripts, and video material to bring you guys an in-depth look.
    I hope you enjoy, many more videos in the works!
    UPDATE: THE TIMESTAMP FOR DOW 3 LORE SHOULD BE 12:45
    If you want to help the channel out:
    / thegamingstoryteller
    Special thanks to A12 for editing and improving some of the art pieces
    Music licenses: Artlist.io
    Game description:
    Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War is a military science fiction real-time strategy (RTS) video game developed by Relic Entertainment and based on Games Workshop's tabletop wargame Warhammer 40,000.
    This video is a REMASTER of my original, I wasn't happy with the quality it had once released, so have decided to fix it up and give you guys a much better experience :)

ความคิดเห็น • 559

  • @Dutch40KGuy
    @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I hope you guys like and enjoy the video! I remastered the original as it was not up to the standard of my channel. Warhammer 40k Dawn of War is very close to my heart and childhood, and I hope this video inspires you to give it a deeper look perhaps!

    • @momqabt
      @momqabt ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "They have successfully captured the market and made them their bitch"
      *shows Sidious*
      Very nicely done

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@momqabt LMAO Im glad you enjoyed it :D

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jamespaguip5913 Its just that starcraft and warcraft both stole from Warhammer as a setting, which makes it feel less superior in a lot of ways
      gamesworkshop produced Warhammer lore and styles 20 years before starcraft was even an idea

    • @lordnovas
      @lordnovas ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This series got me into painting overpriced minis.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lordnovas HA! Same for me!

  • @purrpurr2604
    @purrpurr2604 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    The first game and the expansions are still what got me into W40K. .

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same for me!!

    • @benjaminheginbotham7927
      @benjaminheginbotham7927 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I still play DoW soulstorm regularly

    • @Sammo212
      @Sammo212 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup! The first Dawn of War is what ultimately made me jump getting into the game. My first army was Blood Ravens.

    • @superdupertyson
      @superdupertyson ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it was an amazing time. we used to play it heaps at the net cafe heaps back in the day. my friend had beef with another guy and they settled it out in a game of dow lol. my friend infiltrated scouts into his base kept them there all game and teched up and deep strike terminators in the back. it was hilarious

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@superdupertyson HA!!! That is amazing

  • @Neoyugi
    @Neoyugi ปีที่แล้ว +86

    PLaying DoW 1 as a kid, building up a big army and having them rush into melee, watching the fighting animations...was like peak Dawn of War. Ultimately got me into the table top game that I still play 18 years later.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heck yeah!

    • @hensanglama9347
      @hensanglama9347 ปีที่แล้ว

      Playing on lan with friends was the best thing

    • @Werewolfex92
      @Werewolfex92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They should create remake of soulstorm with online pvp that would be awesome...

    • @michaell8000
      @michaell8000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God remember those sync kill gmvs? Just pure fun.

  • @Vyolette13
    @Vyolette13 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I really think a proper remaster collection of Dawn of War 1, (re-releasing each expansion over a couple years) with improved authentic models/textures, higher resolution support, optimizations, bugfixes and engine improvements would be really well received. As long as they released updated modding tools alongside it, then it would keep the community thriving forever.

  • @DarkDragonRus
    @DarkDragonRus ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Retribution doesn't have campaign for every race, it's have one campaign that have slight variations during the mission depending on faction you play.
    And trying to make every faction doing the same set of mission made some dialogues very stupid, like when making Inquisition fighting Imperial Guards.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oops! I forgot about that, hope you enjoyed tho!

    • @EinheriV
      @EinheriV ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Good point, but Inquisition fighting Imperial Guard is very much on point for 40k

    • @manolgeorgiev9664
      @manolgeorgiev9664 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I see no problem in Inquisition fighting Imperial Guard. Just a standart tuesday in Warhammer 40k.
      The Eldar fighting Eldar was more confusing for me at least.

    • @DarkDragonRus
      @DarkDragonRus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@manolgeorgiev9664 the dialogue that leads to the fighting is most innate among all that I seen. Don't know about Eldars, I only finished it as Imperial Guards (which really isn't good at boss fighting)/Inquisition, Orks and Tyranids (which have different mechanics from other ones that make campaign harder if you don't save scum).

    • @originalusernameoftheyear6500
      @originalusernameoftheyear6500 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@manolgeorgiev9664I played the eldar campaign and I don't ever remember that happening

  • @Nonehasthisnamekek1
    @Nonehasthisnamekek1 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I really hope we will get a DOW4 that takes the good from the 1st game and the good from the 2nd.

  • @hordynighthawk325
    @hordynighthawk325 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I remember playing with friend our version of the last stand. 2 v 6 defense :-D Barely holding the line for 8 hours and then we decided to at least die in the combat, so we charged out and somehow won 😀 we were like 15 at the time 😀

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God that sounds awesome!

  • @whiteassassin13
    @whiteassassin13 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    dawn of war 1 was my first pc game i bought and couldn't play for the first year, but then 2005 i feel in love with warhammer 40k

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dawn of War is the reason so many of us are now huge warhammer fans, it's amazing!

    • @Borthax
      @Borthax ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's sad that dow2 was my first and I had throw fights because of the infamous sound bug

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When I saw a space marine do a flip in the air like a league of legends character I knew it was going to be a dumpster full of dogshit and set on fire.
    Way to go from gritty realism to happy adventure times, totally didn't kill the whole series.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YUP!

    • @K.Marx48
      @K.Marx48 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably the team that worked and the game was full of women, I can visualize them right now thinking that it would be a good idea changing from grim dark to flashy moba game.

  • @xxxphilippxxx
    @xxxphilippxxx ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Dawn of War 2 was an amazing game. I love Dawn of War and its expansions. But Space Marines with bases felt weird. In DOW2 it really felt more like you had an elite force (aka Speesh Mareens). Graphics were amazing, sinc kills awesome.

  • @nunuonroad9969
    @nunuonroad9969 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still play Dark Crusade every now and then, it’s still fun and I’d wished they’d remake it

  • @Ansatsu209
    @Ansatsu209 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Dawn of War went back to its roots, or even remastered Dark Crusade and such, I feel like it would make a major come back. If they make the dumpster fire that is Dawn of War 3, then yeah, the series ended.

  • @sirgideonofnir6840
    @sirgideonofnir6840 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The first game is what got me into the universe, still a amazing game.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very much so!!

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep!
      Especially with Unification mod (36 playable races!) or Ultimate Apocalypse (Tier 4 and 5 technology!) ;-)

  • @balazsvarga1823
    @balazsvarga1823 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dawn of War 1 has Unification, and Dawn of War 2 has Elite and Vengeance of the Blood Ravens (Astartes) mods to add still new content to them. These are the old rts games, legends of the past. Dawn of War 3 felt like it took all the wrong cues from 1 and 2.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup!

    • @aninternetuser4306
      @aninternetuser4306 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm playing unification right now

    • @gc1087
      @gc1087 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts dude, dow3 was so bad I couldn't believe it. It played so wacky and idk how dow2 looks better and is much older. They messed up big time

  • @zsafol402
    @zsafol402 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    DoW I was my favorite. 2 was alright, but disappointing because of no base building. Still very enjoyable if you weren't looking for the expansion of the 1st experience like everyone else. However 3 was a letdown starcraft copy with moba stuff that made me feel the graphics were somehow worse than the prev 2 despite being better. Make IV liek 1 and maybe keep the heroes and I'll love it.
    Completely personal stuff: DoW I was my introduction to my 10yo non-english speaking self to Warhammer, and now I have started building an army a few months ago 21 years later in the theme of Blood Ravens just because of it.
    Oh btw.. Am I witnessing the birt of a new channel? Well have my like, comment and subscription.. FOR THE EMPEROR of course. Your fate is in your hands now.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very much appreciate it!!! I am very new here yes haha! Only been at it for a month or so!

  • @MajesticDemonLord
    @MajesticDemonLord ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In 2000 they started branching out into games?!?
    My dear sweet TH-camr, playing Space Crusade and Space Hulk on a 486 in the mid 90s is what got me hooked on 40k

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean true! But seeing as they sadly sold less units of those than they did boxes of 5th edition starter sets, I just cant count them as a genuine try
      Havent played space hulk in over a decade though, that stuff was so freakin cool

  • @schmittywhamjenson
    @schmittywhamjenson ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a kid I couldn't get into DOW II because I just wanted to play an rts like the first one... recently tried it over the past few months and absolutely loved it.

  • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
    @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the first seven games across Dawn of War 1 and 2. The awesome storyline and fantastic voice work is what got me into 40k, with every race playing different from another and the music was amazing too and then Dawn of War 3 came... different art style, different voice cast, different team... it looking like a mobile game... Just why...

  • @MrDekasOne
    @MrDekasOne ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I personally always thought dow2 did a better job of representing how warhammer 40k armies actually operate, no 40k army builds a base and starts making troops and vehicles in the middle of war they bring them with them fight the war then leave and resupply

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean true, yet then, dont market it as an RTS, as it simply wasnt an RTS

  • @dryzd
    @dryzd ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am playing DAW1 and 2 once every year with Tiberian Sun. I love those games

  • @magiadegetelor2784
    @magiadegetelor2784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Warhammer 40k 1 it will always be in my heart because I discovered for the first time the warhammer universe 40k.

  • @satzbau9185
    @satzbau9185 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Like how DoW really made the Space Marine/Ork/Eldar dynamic their thing. Really a cornerstone of the the DoW trilogy. I like that. Whoever came up with that, good job. Travesty there being no Dark Eldar or Sisters of Battle in any of them except the worst DoW 1 expansion tho

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!!

    • @Theobserver6897
      @Theobserver6897 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Worst Dow expansion? It’s the best one

    • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
      @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theobserver6897 If you don't count the terrible written characters and the terrible voice acting for the races without the mods then it's the 2nd worst just after Dawn Of War 3.

    • @Crom_smite_you
      @Crom_smite_you ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 don't forget all the weird unit caps they added in soulstorm.
      For example you could only have one of each terminator squad, one land raider, two predators.
      Or the imperial guard could only have two leman russ tanks, and only three basilisks. I dunno who thought that was a great idea, but it ruined the multiplayer for soulstorm for alot of people.
      Before hand, the better the unit, the more slots it took up, so you could have only terminator squads, but you'd only get about 4-5 squads, whereas u could have 10 tactical marine squads instead. It added longevity to the game and meant people could play in there own style, but the unit caps they added in soulstorm basically meant every one played the same.

  • @TheAegisClaw
    @TheAegisClaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2000s? Oh my sweet summer child. Shadow of the Horned Rat, Dark Omen, Final Liberation all from the mid 90s.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Within 20 seconds of research, the sales numbers on those combined do not reach over 500k sales, my sweet brother, they weren't even a test 🤭

    • @TheAegisClaw
      @TheAegisClaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dutch40KGuy I can't speak for the RoW, but in the UK they were pretty big. The gaming market was of course, considerably smaller. Dark Omen was one of the first games to use dedicated 3D GPU cards like the 3Dfx.

    • @TheAegisClaw
      @TheAegisClaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Conversely, the graphics requirements probably hurt it, most people didn't have those expensive new cards that early.

  • @YoJimBoHugabaJoe
    @YoJimBoHugabaJoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They had video games since amiga64 at least.earliest game I played was space crusader which was from the 80s,when 40k was rogue trader.still one of the best 40k games as well

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean true, but seeing as these didn't sell more COMBINED than the 5th edition starter set, and were not even from GW directly, I can't count them as a true try

  • @adrianoss.bougas3720
    @adrianoss.bougas3720 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    By the time of DOW3, Relic had been hit by layoffs, it was no longer Relic at that point sadly.

  • @gerardotejada2531
    @gerardotejada2531 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem of DoW3 is that It tried to mix DoW1 and DoW2 and, on top of that, create an esport game in the likeness of Starcraft.

  • @kesgamingbot1249
    @kesgamingbot1249 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I still play DOW 1 and 2 to this Day. Both fun in their own way. I never touched DOW 3 and I don't regret it.

  • @airsoftkingman
    @airsoftkingman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like DoW 3, Yeah the heroes are a little over the top but the maps and play style reminded me of the first one a lot. I wish they would have started out with more races like chaos, imperial guard or the nids, then I think it would have been better received

  • @terranaxiomuk
    @terranaxiomuk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They got rid of base building and made it more of an MOBA.
    I played the originals as IG or Eldar in multiplayer. Eldar was top tier play with web ways.

  • @jamiejameson6809
    @jamiejameson6809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You got a new subscriber here, this is some amazing quality

  • @FRAAANKYSUUUPER
    @FRAAANKYSUUUPER ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just wanted a stand alone Last Stand game from DoWII.
    I sunk so many hours into that game mode and never really touched PvP... If they made it stand alone and better with more characters I would be so happy, I've even thought about how to make it better as well... But no one cares.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, sadly it is too late by now :(

  • @o.w.n.1327
    @o.w.n.1327 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    dawn of war 3 happened.
    But first let me watch the video

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO, TRUE! hope you enjoy it!!

    • @o.w.n.1327
      @o.w.n.1327 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dutch40KGuy Hey took me 2 days to watch it all my bad: I feel like you really didn't went into too much detail on why players enjoyed and disliked a specific game but I really did enjoy the video for me as someone who first played dawn of war in 2020 I think the reason I liked the series was how simple and easy it was to play it all. Strategy games were never really my thing but everyday I open dark crusade and do a skirmish battle its just too fun its all too easy to understand and characters, voice acting, music and the visual all makes this game the best I love Chaos Rising with all its posibilities the choices the dialogue yet I HATE THE FUCKING GAMEPLAY.
      Edit: I got into 40k just like most in recent years with Astarteas but Dawn of War really sold me the entire universe. (now I spend copius ammounts of cash on plastic crack)

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@o.w.n.1327 thank you for the insights!!

  • @marcojustiniano7498
    @marcojustiniano7498 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dawn 1 with the unification mod bloody perfection primarchs and everything

  • @starboykb
    @starboykb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Warhammer 40k Dawn of War was the best RTS I ever play and collect them physically (with t-shirt!). DOW2 is more focused on the standalone campaign. I still enjoy and reply from time to time because of the great story and music. It's a shame DOW3 didn't do well but i going to get it once i upgrade my graphic card. i am sad to miss out the collector edition box set.

  • @TemperingFaber3
    @TemperingFaber3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sororitas are in the first game, and the game is loved, the Sororitas aren't in the second or third, the games are hated...Coincidences?

  • @Sappermentti
    @Sappermentti ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't necessarily need or want a DoW4, but i could easily shell out money for a remaster of DoW1 and its expansions.

  • @SuperKevinxu
    @SuperKevinxu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to recommend DoW 2 elite mod . It is Community update mods with continue balancing and updates . It also add a new faction as well .

  • @disasterdisaster581
    @disasterdisaster581 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dawn of war 2 is probably the best Dawn of War game.
    It's the only one that actually reflects the lore power levels. It's the only one that actually involves tactics. And it isn't tedious as you don't have to deal with boring crap (like base building), you just get straight into the action.

    • @LKLM138
      @LKLM138 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      base building isn't tactics? Thats pretty contradictory statement right there.
      Ofc I understand that you want action immediatly the game starts. Nothing wrong in that.
      Nothing beats the adrenaline when you build your base and scout ahead with some units and encounter a player with stronger units, advancing your base.
      But you still have just barely enought time to make matching units by thr time they reach you. And because ypu didn't waste recources on better units at start, you have another scout units reclaming resources around the map... Thats strategy baby!

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hope you guys enjoyed the video though 🤭

    • @LKLM138
      @LKLM138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dutch40KGuy Yes. It was really informative and reasonable.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear!

    • @JayFFAFAlesanaES
      @JayFFAFAlesanaES ปีที่แล้ว

      Base building is decorating and making your mark. It's one of the best bits. Using Chaos Daemons via Unification mod in Soulstorm is even cooler, with custom maps, too 😎

  • @veronho1ness
    @veronho1ness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It must admit, after change of mechanics between DoW and DoW2, I thought I would hate the second iteration but I did like it. It meant a change of tactics and the way i played the game, where it almost became a RPG, I keep playing both. I did try the DoW3 and I wanted to like it, but I cannot.

  • @graemedaley8060
    @graemedaley8060 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A warhammer 40k game in a gates of hell format would be dope as shit

  • @lolaroflmao
    @lolaroflmao ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still play DOW1 now and then, love the campaigns of the original (SINDRI!!) and of Dark Crusade (Eliphas voice was HOT)

  • @ipatchymakouli415
    @ipatchymakouli415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would add that despite DoW 1 vanilla having a decent balance for pro play (I've watched over ten thousands hours of 1v1 (help me)... Eldar kinda imba but shhh) MOST of the players, I'd estimate about 90%, play mods, Ultimate Apocalypse and Unification the quote the big ones.
    And these mods are still (slowly) getting better and better to this day!
    But I'll say as people always say in ANY DoW1 stream I watch: I wish the game get remastered someday.
    Not necessarily/only for the graphics, but with a better engine = not restricted to 4GB, the mods wouldn't be as limited/unstable.
    Anyway, thank you for the video, sweet nostalgia.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Super glad you enjoyed!

  • @TedTheHobbyist
    @TedTheHobbyist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DoW 2's Eldar didn't want to bring the Tyranids to the planets considering Tyhpon is considered a craftworld. And it makes no sense for them to bring Tyranids to Aurelia considering Tyranids doesn't give a shit who you are, you're biomass.

  • @gabrielalexanderkemp
    @gabrielalexanderkemp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DOW 1 Is a game I still actively play constantly, the modding has made the game truly feel like one of the best games ever. DOW2 is a fucking fantastic experience and truly fun af even though it's almost entirely different truly a masterpiece in a different way. DOW 3 is one of the saddest excuses for a RTS, Moba, or whatever the fuck it's supposed to be that I have ever sadly had to see with potential that cannot be believed ruined by a strange af art style, a HORRID gameplay loop for multiplayer, a piss poor story, mediocre voice acting, OP af heros, and a lack of physics even by 40k standards. Truly sad considering the hype and expectations but they tried to please both fans of DOW 1 and DOW 2 and instead ended up pleasing literally no one.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I KNOW RIGHT! they could've at least tried satisfying at least a part of the community

  • @ZeusTheMatti
    @ZeusTheMatti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the first game. But something that is little stupid is when you stand right in the open in a firefight and spam bullets.. Thats why DoW 2 is far far better! Love the more control your soldiers and taking cover when in a firefight.. Sure hope for a DoW 4 that goes back to how DoW 2 was.

  • @stever089
    @stever089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow great video to dabble with 40k.and I'm sure everyone thats loved DoW will love thus video

  • @SubutaiTuul
    @SubutaiTuul ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im pretty positive about dow4 becoming a thing honestly. and if they do i hope they take the best from 1 and 2, beucase i personally loved both, and sure dow2 didn have base building but it still was an RTS and you still had to be very active on the map to fight for important resources and be tactical about how you used your shit. regardless of no base building, it was an RTS.

  • @SethTheFall
    @SethTheFall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old Dow is still well alive with the apocalypse mod

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Like mentioned in the video! 🤭

  • @ieajackson5518
    @ieajackson5518 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video as always, your editing gets better every time!

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for stopping by!

  • @aliski768
    @aliski768 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one day your channel will explode, please, remember me when this happens, because when this happens i will be one amongst untold billions

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that so much!!!

  • @aninternetuser4306
    @aninternetuser4306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im still playing DoW soulstorm unification mod, this game still slaps. 💪

  • @charlesdaugherty321
    @charlesdaugherty321 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1 is the best RPG ever.
    2 is a great game too.
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  • @Nicohoffg
    @Nicohoffg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video! For me DoW2 is the best RTS I have ever played, independent of base building. Cheers

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video!!

  • @Dasweetkiller
    @Dasweetkiller หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently playing DOW 2, its the only one in the series I've played and I'm really enjoying it.

  • @rock2k14
    @rock2k14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still completely expect a 40k game from Creative Assembly, whether it's a Total War Warhammer 40k, or whether they make Dawn of War 4 (I mean Sega owns the IP and CA) as they have basically been printing money with Total War Warhammer, and CA definitely have the experience with everything from the Total War series, to Halo Wars 2 and Alien Isolation

  • @CompeadorGaming
    @CompeadorGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was top Eldar in DoW1 for a while, along with a couple of other dudes who must have had bionicly enhanced fingers for giga-APM. Stuck around through DoW2, lost a bunch of tournaments to Ravener nids vs my Farseer bc fuck nids so much omfg. Tried DoW3 for all of 5 hours before giving up on the franchise. Loved it, love the universe, but trying to make Dawn of Company of WarHeroes was Relic's worst mistake, then trying to make Dawn of DotaWar was the final nail.

  • @Isaias_Primus
    @Isaias_Primus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i feel that the guys of relic wanted to emulate the actual wargame in DoW 2, cuz it's feels like the wargame, having squads, using covers, capturing strategic points, and deploy units in the map

    • @nekomancer4641
      @nekomancer4641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has a lot of elements more closer to Company of Heroes games.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Genuinely!

    • @Isaias_Primus
      @Isaias_Primus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nekomancer4641 i know that, but since i'm a tabletop player it's feels like killteam or vanilla 2.000 pts game

    • @paulbestwick2426
      @paulbestwick2426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me it feels like they took inspiration from Squad Leader the old Avalon Hill board wargame

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulbestwick2426 thats a good description!

  • @then00brathalos
    @then00brathalos ปีที่แล้ว +8

    DOW 3 happens on a knight world. but barely any knights showup (there is solaria and thats it) which is kinda funny.
    DOW has been my official first dip into warhammer culture (aside from Freeblade, but we don't talk about that) and damn impressive it was for a game from 2004. Currently going through winter assault which made me view the guardsmen much more heroic than I already did. I played soulstorm with mods on some skirmishes yet still havent got into the campaign

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely try out the campaign! It's worth it, even with all the issues surrounding the game

  • @elimn8or850
    @elimn8or850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still play this game most days. Plenty of people in the online Steam community still playing.

  • @manu_spawn
    @manu_spawn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I play SS for Ultimate Apocalypse
    And btw, i discovered 40K thanks to Dawn of War

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By far the best way to find this amazing universe!

    • @manu_spawn
      @manu_spawn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dutch40KGuy yeah! I remember i was looking for low end PC games when i had a bad PC, and I'd never tend to play campaigns in RTS games, but as played my first Skirmish, the scale was huge, i was too impressed, so i got into the Campaign and to me it was simply unbelievable. As soon as i finished the Game, i literally run into the internet to look for the next Game, and i discovered... It was not just a PC Game, it was massive universe. It's been 10 years now, and little by little people in Latin America are now discovering it. I al quite happy.
      Dawn of War, Space Marine were the best, and now Darktide it's making 40K more popular so i am really happy about that!

  • @perizzasalem4994
    @perizzasalem4994 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First character i know from warhammer is capt Davian Thule. But they kill him and transform him to mech...

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean yes, but thats what happens with most marine heroes!

  • @practicaltheory6604
    @practicaltheory6604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still play the games today, all the expansions with the modes added , even elite mode. My dream is someone to make a warhammer campaign with all the primarch's like the Horus Heresy campaign . And you to have a mission with each chapter , like the campaign in warcraft 3 when you play first with humans,then undead, orcs , elves . With all the events from each planet , Istvan V betraying , corruption of Horus , and splitting the legions . And each legion with its story line and missions ! That would I want !

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds like a SICK idea!!

  • @manubaumann7825
    @manubaumann7825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this awsome Video. I still hapo there will be an dow 4 some day. Maybe If space Marine 2 is successfull, there is a Chance that It will Happen.
    I still Love Dow 2 and Play the Elite Mod frequently

  • @dragonknightsofantar1737
    @dragonknightsofantar1737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I went back to this game after this video. I'm actually enjoying it. The multiplayer vs ai is kinda fun and the graphics are good as well. Still. DoW 1 and 2 are the best.

  • @markkeys1142
    @markkeys1142 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its mind boggling that 2 and 3 werent just 1 with newer graphics a bigger campaign map more factions etc.
    I genuinely do not know how a company could miss the mark so fuckin hard. Twice.

  • @Driblex1003
    @Driblex1003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still remember the day when out of nowhere the trailer for DoW 3 popped up but once the gameplay was revealed I was totally shocked. They did nothing like most of the playerbase asked. I still hope that we at least get a DoW 1 Remaster. For me personaly a technical Update would be enough, so the hardware can be used completely. Mod user will know the issues with the De-Synch because massive battles. But let's hope someone will pick it up and make a beloved DoW4. I mean...Space Marine was dead...and got revived now...and it does look pretty good so far!

  • @seashellbeesaveres7951
    @seashellbeesaveres7951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Dawn of war IV with the base building of dow 1, graphics and animations of dow 2, textures and commanders of dow 3.

  • @averylewis1753
    @averylewis1753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i still love the Dawn of war games i wish 3 did get some more support it had good potential but i think the focus was to hard on the moba heroes and lack of maps/races in the base game really killed it the modding community has kept Dawn of war 1 and 2 alive hard though

  • @Bleusilences
    @Bleusilences ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they remaster the first dawn of war, not even need to remake, just make it run well, out of the box, on modern system and add better textures.

  • @sorestarbing3978
    @sorestarbing3978 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dawn of War 1 is what makes me to explore WH40k. Without it, I might not know much about its universe.

  • @smolwavingsnail9028
    @smolwavingsnail9028 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they ditched the base building. and when they brought it back it was dumbed down and minimalistic. the strategy aspect was all but gone with the closest thing to strategy you had was some cover

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      true!

    • @smolwavingsnail9028
      @smolwavingsnail9028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dutch40KGuy I played them all and even though I wouldn't say dawn of 2 and 3 were bad games I'd certainly say they were forgettable at best and should have been stand alone titles. Instead of tarnishing the legendary legacy of the dawn of war rts franchise.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smolwavingsnail9028 Yeah, just seperating them wouldve been the better choice for sure

  • @patrickbateman69420
    @patrickbateman69420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DoW1 and its expansions are still the best RTS games ever made and by far the best 40k games. DoW2 is....alright.
    We don't talk about DoW3.

  • @gc1087
    @gc1087 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like DoW2 the best out of the three. It was so nice to have tactics and strategies of saving units etc. The first DoW was cool but felt like just spamming units. Dow2 felt more strategic.

  • @qwefg3
    @qwefg3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My issue with the DW3 was the lack of 'your units' feeling.
    Dw1 - your soldiers are kitted out to fight whatever foe you are facing.
    DW2 - Your heroes are kitted out with troops as support... With 3rd expansion letting you stick with heroes and modify troops.
    Dw3 - MOBA without much customization and it copied Star craft in a sense with pros being cheap, weak, but lots of units (zerg) humans being middle of the group (terrain) and Elder being costly, but strong (Protoss) and it really did not help with the campaign ignoring cannon lore or the previous games while trying to also do call backs to the previous game.
    Worst part of DW3 - No hero last stand... Seriously when your major focus is what MOBA clone heroes can do then why not do what DW2 did and let you use those heroes against waves of cannon fodder?
    Because DW3 troops were cannon fodder in the most simplest form.
    Or that's how I felt having played through all three versions of the game.
    The RTS, the RPG, and the MOBA.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! hope you enjoyed the video tho!

  • @thepiratepenguin4465
    @thepiratepenguin4465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to play a game set during the Horus Heresy.

  • @dylancollins780
    @dylancollins780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the unification mod for soulstorm, absolutely amazing . Even in 2022

  • @brokentool
    @brokentool ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:45 minor gripe - wouldn't call Total War an RTS game

  • @StarvingBrain
    @StarvingBrain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i liked all 3 and dont think they suck. Just think of them as 3 separate games and not as a Trilogie and there are really good

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah thats the best way by far!

  • @JusticeJudge
    @JusticeJudge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DoW 1 boomer here I spent a lot of my teenage years playing DoW 1 it's the best RTS ever created as long as you have camera mod, it was poorly balanced with Eldar being stupidly overpowered but extremely fun to play and I still regular play it online in my early 30's. It's a shame Dawn of War 2+3 sucked and was only worth it for the campaign.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah camera mod was very important. made it a lot more fun

  • @dekumutant
    @dekumutant ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will never give up hope for dawn of war 4

  • @ltp7641
    @ltp7641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dawn of War 3 happened... Man Fck that game. The first trailer got me so hyped and what do we get... A Pile of shit that would make Nurgle blush.

  • @kingwou
    @kingwou ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dawn of war 2 is the best on the series best rts I’ve ever played , also player didn’t bash the game on release that is miss leading and fake

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I very much liked it too

  • @DragonxFlutter
    @DragonxFlutter ปีที่แล้ว

    Dawn of War was my first real experience with 40k, having gotten into it after my first RTS ever, Star Wars: Empire at War (imo, the best RTS of all time). I have the entire DoW series (even 3) but I’m stumped on Winter Assault. I just can’t get a hang of how to play the Eldar.

  • @hippi0284
    @hippi0284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the first Dawn of War game I played was DoW1 on disc plus expansions, and I don't know how many hours I played the first faction I played was the Space Marines, but I fell in love with the Orcs and when DoW2 was announced I was excited, and I will admit I was surprised that will no Base building but to be honest I ended actually enjoyed the new gameplay, and it was an awesome to watch my units use cover and having several dog fights and skirmishes on the map and the details on the models nice, and when DoW3 was announced I was excited to see they will combined the Base building of DoW1 and the cover mechanic of DoW2 and how they design the models and when DoW3 was released, Heroes was to OP in my opinion and model design was good but a bit cartoonish in my opinion and the campaign did not hit the same as DoW1-2 campaign in my opinion and then there was the MOBA stuff and excetera excetera, but I would still recommend DoW 1 or 2 to anyone who's looking for a good strategy game.

  • @Commandramon74
    @Commandramon74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tiny lore mistake in DoW2 BEWARE SPOILER!!!
    The Elder didn't summon the Tyranids. they tried to prevend them from getting into the Aurelion sector, but as Intelligent as the Space Marines always are, they dont even care and just slaughter the Eldar(Stuff like that happens quite often in Warhammer Lore)

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      ah! Yeah as a dutch speaking person it can kinda get lost in translation too :D

  • @Eehonda_again
    @Eehonda_again ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dawn of War never had any sequels, only expansions. Dawn of War 2 and the shite that came after it don’t deserve to have the same name

  • @sluggy6074
    @sluggy6074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know what you're talking about with dawn of war 2. All the friends I used to stay up all night playing dawn of war 1 with really enjoyed dawn of war 2 when it came out. There was only a brief conversation when we all came to the realization it was completely different but I'd say half my friends made dow2 their main game and the other half stuck with the original, but of those people who liked the original better they all still played dow2 and never said anything bad about it. Relic decided they didn't want to travel the beaten path where the 2nd game is just the first with better graphics and less armies. They took a gamble and it paid off that time as the absence of base building allowed for a lot more fast paced action.
    Edit: wrote that before I heard you talk about the things dow 2 did well. Don't think the game was that polarizing though. I was personally really surprised to see a lot of the RTS diehards didn't hate dow2. That just makes their criticism of dow3 that much more damning...

  • @piotrdy9615
    @piotrdy9615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive played both games competitively (CoH too) and that was the best online rts experience I've had. Sad they butchered DoW 3 and CoH 2

  • @Daralyndk
    @Daralyndk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Original Dawn of War was what introdiced me to 40K universe in the first place and for that, I will be always grateful
    CUZ ORKZ ARE DA BIGEEST, BADDEST, MEANEST AND GREENEST DERE IZ! WAAAAAGGHHHH!
    Ehmmm.
    Now seriously, I loved the first game and it's expansions, Gorgutz is still my favorite baddie.
    Second game was not what was I expected but as you said as standalone game I had ton of fun with it and it's expansions and as mostly singleplayer guy I did not really missed the map domination aspect.
    I have third part in library...and...I never played it, or even installed it for that matter as I heard so much shit about it that I was disheartened. I guess I could give it a try because your opinion seems to fit with mine.
    I was never fan of Total War games, but I would be willing to give it a shot if it was 40K

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely give it a try, just try to approach it as a moba, not an rts, it clears up the confusion a ton!
      Hope you enjoyed the video, and thank you for sharing!

  • @bushybrazzz
    @bushybrazzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey lad, great vid but didn't the Eldar bring the orc there because they were trying to stop the tyrranids, not bring them on purpose?

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind of, the eldar's end goal wasn't solely to beat the nids, they were trying more to ruin the aurelian subsector

    • @bushybrazzz
      @bushybrazzz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dutch40KGuy those bastards :P, ty for the info

  • @lelouche25
    @lelouche25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being a blood raven is great its like ravioli ravioli give me your property

  • @BLOODKINGbro
    @BLOODKINGbro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never got to get the glory of the Tau empire ever again

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My greater good boyz :(

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DoW 1 is amazing. DoW 2 is a big change, but somewhat still enjoyable. DoW 3 is.. I haven't played it yet, nor buy it, even when it went on sale many times 😂.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! i can still recommend it in a way, if you look at it from the perspective of a sort of moba, its kinda fun!

  • @therealfreshswobo6443
    @therealfreshswobo6443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DoW is still one of my top3 favourite RTS-series of all times, along with AoE & StarCraft ♥️

  • @martver12
    @martver12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dow 1 introduced me but Dow2 got me hooked, it was darker and grittier than Dow1. If only it had the same scale of gameplay as Dow1 and the dark and gritty feeling when playing Dow2. Then Dow3 would be the game that would continue the franchise,, not end it

  • @Kvakva
    @Kvakva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pointy-ears roused up the green-ork-boyz to actually stop the space locusts not the other way around.

  • @sanuelmoran6358
    @sanuelmoran6358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DoW got me into 40k, DoW2 was my favorite in the series and DoW3... well the less said about that the better.

  • @vendeux
    @vendeux ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They should go back to the first DOW formula with fresh graphics and updated UI. They should call it DAWN OF WAR: HORUS HERESY and take us through key moments of the heresy, like game one can be up to Istvaan V as the traitor legions with a spinoff expansion covering the fall of Lorgar and burning of Prospero. Game two should focus on Signus Cluster, Calth and Imperial Secundus then the third can be Seige of Terra. GW's bank account would go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Edit: Also get rid of the gimmicky cartoony look of the third game. Get a truly grimdark aesthetic showing the blood, sweat and gore of Warhammer 30k.

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      God that sounds awesome!

  • @worldspam5682
    @worldspam5682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blood crows, assemble!

  • @sjchamor5628
    @sjchamor5628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention that there are 2 space RTS games, Battlefleet Gothic Armada 1 and 2

    • @Dutch40KGuy
      @Dutch40KGuy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean true, but they have nothing to do with DoW and will get their own dedicated video at some point!