Thanks for the video. I am leaning towards lg c2 42" for my use (30% coding, 40% photo-video editing, 20% entertainment, 10% movies). A quick question, I've watched 10s of youtube videos and read 10s of Reddit posts. But couldn't find that by hook or crook (external software, service remote etc) can LG C2 42" do a split screen? For example, Hook up a laptop and MacBook pro to different HDMI and display at the same time.
You're too close to the TV. I use a 37" wide lcd tv. It's advised that you need to be at least as far as wide from the TV but preferably twice as far so that your eyes won't get damage from the brightness&radiation especially as your eyes will be focused on it for hours. I'll probably get something bigger but again u need to be a certain distant so that radiant energy won't damage your eyes and have less headaches(blue light?).
I'm actually seriously considering the new Hisense U8K or U7K since the 32-40 inch Mini Led seems to be insanely expensive somehow. Anything over 1000$ USD is too much for me to justify buying.
If hou think you are staring into a sun, then you sit too close. The point of using such screen is so that you can sit comfortably, on sofa or something, and far away from said "monitor". I have seen many little "sun" laptop screen already. I really wondered why those people made it so bright.
@@williamshevr Hey I am also thinking to get a QN90B 43" and use as a Monitor+TV for my desk. How does the text look on it? Especially on apps with dark mode?(I usually spend my day coding on apps with dark mode on) Does it have it lot of blooming? I reckon 43" would have much lesser dimming zones than 55" or higher. Really appreciate your time on this :)
Turn the brightness down. A few years ago, all of us used LCD that put out 300 nits or so. That was perfectly fine. When playing a game or watching movies/streaming, switch modes and turn up the brightness.
I use the LG C1 OLED48C11LB with my Mac Mini in game mode (HDR). Also dark mode is preferred. I wouldn’t change it for anything else. It is a delight to work with 👌🏻 Edit: I do not use it for gaming.
I used a 65" TV as a monitor for a week or so before returning it for a 42". Corners were just too far away for my taste. One thing I did for the 65 incher was modify my desk so the bottom of the screen was like 6 inches below the level of my keyboard. That way I'd generally have to look down to see more information, as opposed to looking up. I found that much more comfortable.
I thought of something similar recently. Seems like a great way to open viewing angle and bring the top of the screen (array) closer. I'm thinking of going with the 57" dual 4K ultrawide when I also dive in head first with a powerful gaming pc or laptop. The curve seems worth it for a bunch of applications, and the resolution is amazing. I like the idea of a large TV screen, but it may also just be too intense.
Sitting close to such a large screen is a killer for your neck. Ask me how I know. However, I fixed that by mounting the screen on the wall having the top of the screen no more than 15cm above eye level. That meant i had to move the desk away from the wall in order for me to see the bottom of the screen. It works like a charm. No more stress on the neck.
The easy fix for that is to buy a gamer chair and lay back at an angle and you won't have any neck pain at all. Been doing that since covid and home-office. 😅
For anyone thinking of going this route, I'd suggest taping some text documents to a wall within the target TV size. Sit at the distance you plan to be from the monitor and see how you find reading documents. Also, if in a windowed room, I found screen glare an issue at some viewing angles. I don't have the room, so my current setup is pretty modest, and not TVs. A 27" 2K curved Acer in landscape and 24" 1080p flat Acer in portrait for webpages/documents. I have the 1080p angled about 20 degrees so when I turn my head I'm looking straight into it.
I just started to use a 55 inch TV for my monitor and got rid of the 2 smaller monitors I use to use, I gotta say I like it, though my desk is pretty deep so setting it back as far as it can go works out, I normally game in a window anyway and it's nice having so much desktop space to do things.
I've been using a 55" tv for a monitor for about 9 years now. It did seem big at 1st but now, I don't think I could go back to a small monitor. There are only a couple games I like playing and the tv does just fine with those. I mostly just watch movies and youtube anyway, reading web pages, email or documents is no problem.
I'm using a 75" QLED Fire TV. I live in a really small place, and it's pretty great. I sit on the couch 6' away from the screen , and I've got a mechanical keyboard and a trackball glued to a lap desk. It's totally perfect!
I feel like a 43"or 49"TV might be a better fit over a 55" or 65". Definitely been looking at TVs recently to replace my monitor, mainly because monitors are ridiculously priced lately.
@@PeteMatheson yeah Samsung we’re still rolling out new curved TV models as late as last year in some markets I believe. But they’re essentially not a thing anymore. Maybe it didn’t have much of an impact given we sit quite far from them? If my next monitor isn’t a TV, I’ll probably grab a couple of flat 27” 1440p monitors 👌
@@PeteMatheson dual 35's?! You'd need a chonker of a desk for that lol. I'm trying to downsize my huge desk. Potentially going for a wall mounted desk setup and mounted monitors, not 100% sure yet though. Also, I wish the embody chair was available where I am, seems nowhere sells it near me 😏
43" sitting 2 to 3 feet away, is nearly the perfect size to fill the field of view of binocular vision and be able to focus on the entire screen without turning your head.
I've been using a Samsung 43" OLED 4k TV as my monitor/TV for the last two months and haven't encountered any drawbacks. I'm still getting used to the differences in workflow having such an enormous amount of screen but overall it's a much better experience now than my two side by side 2k computer monitors. Eventually will upgrade to maybe a 55". Unless you are an extreme competitive gamer this is the way to go and I'm pretty sure most people will be doing this in the future. There's too many positives. Thanks for the great video and look forward to learning more about your experiences.
unless you play sim games only like flight simulator or actual sim racing games. this is the dumbest idea ever. its way to big to ever use that screen space in a nearly effective comfortable way. and you neve can sit at the right distance because of its sheer size. the way better solution is 3 x "27"inch (and thats already scratching close to the maximum size that is usable comfortably and efficiently) screens even if they are only 1080p way more organized way cheaper way more comfortable to use overall way way better for every szenario compared to this huuuuge screen you never can utilize in a meaning full way.
@@mrchillgreen I've been using a 43" TV as my monitor for 5 yrs now. Docs, casual gaming, multimedia/photoshop work, and it's completely fine. My previous setup was a 34" LG widescreen flanked by two 27" monitors and the big TV is just cleaner, easier, and far cheaper.
Fantastic video, Pete!...Currently, using a 55" Sony A80K TV and Apple TV 4K in my bedroom as well as connected to my PC in four quadrants - As a non-gamer, Sony TV looks breath-taking!
I've been using my Sony 55" as a monitor for close to 10 years now. It started when I moved into a small studio apartment and the TV is literally at the base of my bed and no where to setup my computer desk. I looked at the back of my computer and found the HDMI port from my Nvida card and looked at the back of my TV and said out loud, "I wonder....". And it worked flawlessly!!! Best Day Ever. I'll never go back.
I have been using my 65" 4K TV as a computer monitor for months. Before this I used my 55" 4K TV as my computer monitor. I have it set up in my lounge room, attached to my computer. I use it for everything. Entertainment, music, work. I sit comfortably on my sofa with my wireless mouse and keyboard. I can do everything I need in absolute comfort. I've been using this setup for more than 3 years and I'm a very happy chappy. It's also connected to my 5.1 surround sound system. It cost me so much less than a monitor with limited usability. Cheers
@@Pameliux23 Hi Pameliux23, I've been using keyboards on my lap for years in the office because it doesn't hurt my arms, hands, wrists or fingers. I also use a short keyboard without the number pad. Stability has never been an issue for me. But comfort definitely is. I hope your day is great for you, mine was wonderful. Cheers
This is the way! Same here. I want to upgrade to 70" or more for that 1080p 240hz first person shooter immersion 3 feet from the screen. You just have to pull back a bit until the screen door goes away and you pop in the game FOV.
I've been using my tv as a monitor since I bought it in 2008. A Samsung series 6, 52" . Yes it is 2023. Yes my tv is still working great! It is why I luv Samsung. Their TVs are top notch.
For a 4K TV as desktop monitor, given the distance, a 55" TV is the largest you want to keep pixel tolerable. Ideally to avoid seeing pixels, 48-52" is better. 27" at 1080p is the largest size at that res regarding pixelation. In 4K, that results in 4 x 27" 1080p monitors. Equivalent to a 54" TV.
You can just pull back a foot until it looks smooth. For shooters having a 1080 50" 120hz is glorious. You don't need 24k, you need stable frame rate and immersion. Adjust the FOV and your distance to the screen and if you're lucky you'll feel when your brain slides into the game. For single player games yes you'll probably need to save for a small Vegas sphere to make it.
Great video. Great minds think alike I guess. I have been using a TV as my PC Monitor since 2014 because I felt like most TV's had better picture quality and more features than a monitor and were more cost effective. At this time I have been using the Samsung QN90A 43 Inch Mini LED TV as my PC monitor since last year and have posted a few videos about it on my TH-cam channel and I am very, very happy with it! Thank you for making this video to confirm what I have been saying all along.
Using a TV as a computer's display device is actually an age-old practice among those of us who owned home computers back in the 1980's. TV sets were more commonly used than monitors as the display devices of such home computers as the Commodore VIC-20, the Commodore 64, and the Atari 8-bit series (i.e., Atari 400 and Atari 800).
Yep, and PC users who swap video files have long used their spare PCs as media machines to run their TV Having a PC web-browser run TH-cam on my TV also means I can blok ads and type in the search bar with a proper keyboard.... It's the way to go, the youtube app on TVs is pretty basic....
I'm using a 43" TV and don't really think anything bigger is desireable. I bought an inexpensive 4K MI TV for my M2 Mac Mini and highly recommend the 43" size. I don't do much gaming but Logic Pro and watching sports work out great. So, as a regular user of a TV monitor, I'd think twice about going any bigger than 43".
Great video. I have been using "TV's" as my computer { Monitor } for a very long time. currently I am using a Samsung 52" 4k tv. It was maybe $300 + tax if I remember right. My system looks wonderful.
I went the 55" qn90, have it bolted down with a forward lean on a tall table with weights at the back for stability and I relax sitting back on a lazy boy relining chair. No back problems ever again!+
I just did my own set up. I have a laptop hooked up to my 40 tv that's on a swivel mount. I found that I had to move the desk back a couple feet to make it comfortable.
As I write this, I am looking at this video my on a Phillips 55" 4K TV which has replaced my previous triple-24" monitor setup. I don't game. That allowed me to pick a much less expensive TV (mine was $249 on sale). I am very happy with this setup. I work remotely and my M1 MacBook Pro drives it very nicely. I love being able to view wide Excel worksheets without have them spilt across screens.
Thanks for the review. I'm a Hardware Developer, now learning Software Development. Right now I use 2x 32" monitors side by side. The 49" ultra wode monitors are not high enough for my purposes (2x27" monitor side by side screen size) This is a very interesting solution for having large horizontal and vertical space. I'm only concerned about high angle of views of the corners. Thanks for the review
For the last few years, I have been using a 42 inch 4k tv as my main pc monitor AND tv. It has worked out well. Its not too big to see all of it easily while only sitting 1.5 feet away. The biggest issue has been dimming the brightness. A standard TV is too bright and the colors are too exaggerated. So I had to adjust down a bit from the defaults. And that windows 300% setting? I have mine on 150% which has been perfect for apps like davinci resolve that use a LOT of screen space.
I've been using a 70 inch UHD 4K TV as one of my monitors ( for gaming ) for ages, I love it as I don't have to wear my glasses to read text on the screen.. It only cost me $750 Australian dollars NEW. It's only 60Hz (60fps max), but I don't mind, I have my GPU locked to no more than 60 FPS and I get a smooth 60 FPS like a gaming console on TV. Cheers. EDIT: btw, I sit about 10 foot away from the screen, and in the display settings I have the Advanced scaling on 300% to make everything look normal again instead of tinchy tiny text and icons in 4K.
I've been using my 46" Sony Bravia HDTV as a computer monitor for the last 13 years. It was part of a plan to consolidate all of my electronics into one location along with my gaming consoles and Bluray player. The TV is too big to sit a couple of inches from it, so I have a couch a comfortable 6 feet away from it. When I'm using my computer (which is all the time), I type with a wireless keyboard in my lap and my mouse parked at my side. This LCD display has served me well for years, but I'm having the temptation to upgrade to a 4K TV. I'm currently looking at a Samsung Q80C as it's one of the best TVs I can afford. All the other TVs on the market are just too expensive for me.
Thank you so much for this amazing video, I have a Samsung QN8206 TAF, I wireless, connected my laptop to it and it's absolutely fantastic I didn't even know I could do that with an extended display seeing all that real estate on an 82-in TV is absolutely fantastic I have had this TV over a year and didn't know it could do all this thanks again, and thank you for sharing this amazing information. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
DPI on a 4k 43 inch TV is around 100, which works well for a monitor. I have a 43 inch Qn90b and set it to 1440p with no scaling when at the desk, which makes a 28 inch display. Then I use my Xbox for fullscreen gaming from the sofa. If you sit close like a normal monitor, I think curved is better once larger than around 27-30 inches. Otherwise the geometry of things looks wrong because the edges are so much further away.
@@Freelancer604 The viewing angle left to right is quite narrow - I have a 2 person sofa 6ft away and sitting at the edges begins to distort colours and make blooming visible. I haven't noticed anything vertically though. Without downsizing the screen as suggested, sitting close to 43 inches is really distorted because the edges are so much further away than the middle, so the middle bulges towards you and it's too overwhelming. I had a curved 32 inch monitor before this and I'd say that was around the limit depending on what you were doing - I struggled to play fast fps games on it while at the desk. Great multitasking with desktop work though. I'm in the UK and I'm not sure if they use a different panel on the 43 inch in the US. The RTings review seemed to suggest it might be different compared to Europe.
@@Freelancer604 I can atest It's true by my experience only. I used to have a 42" Lg 1080p lcd TV as a monitor, and I remember the edges looked wrong. The same occurs if I sit too much close to my 55" Lg Oled. When the first 4k TVs were available at my place, I picked a curved 48" Samsung TV (un48ju6700) for my main monitor and never looked back. The edges look perfect with the Samsung, or better saying, I never notice them, it's like the screen insn't curved at all.
I used a 32" LG for a year before downsizing to a 27". I feel 32" is my upper limit, but 27" is perfect. I've used a 42" at work and couldn't stand it. Constantly turning my head to see what is in front of me. And if I back up far enough that I don't need to turn my head, well, it's not covering the field of view to make it worth my time. 27 is the sweet spot.
I just bought a Samsung Crystal HD yesterday for my desk. It has automatic read out for gaming, Samsung Dex ( whixh is crazy) and PC on tv. It's a 43 inch whis is pretty much perfect size. Used it as a monitor last night and I was pleasantly surprised.
I have been using a 43” 4K LG TV as my main “work” monitor for 2 years now. It can do PiP and split-screen modes which is very useful when taking a break 😂
I use a mixture of TV's and monitors for my triple screen setup. A small 19" monitor I use for the visual output of coding projects I'm working on, an LG tv 22" for the coding editor and a 40" Samsung as my main screen for movies and TH-cam vids etc. I had just the 19" monitor for years before I got lucky and a work mate sold me the 40" second hand and then my flatmate gave me the LG tv. I absolutely love gaming, watching gameplay and movies on the 40", even more so for simulator games, bus, racing, flying sims etc; It's so immersive. A bigger screen is a few years down the line until I'm in a more suitable place, but I can only drool at the thought of how immersive a huge TV like that must be. Thanks for your ideas.
A 65" monitor needs to have an 8k resolution, minimum. Especially when used up close like a typical monitor instead of being viewed from a distance the way one would typically use a tv.
I run a similar set up. I have a wall mounted Hisense 50U6G (50"). I know the instinct is to have the monitor on the desk but by having it on the wall, I can move my desk further or closer as needed. I use Tiles so I can quickly organize my windows. It's so much better than my dual 30" monitors desk setup at work. I went this route because monitors are insanely expensive and I can't see where the money is going, at least for the design work I do. TV+mount+speakers was about $550. I can't go back to monitors after this.
in 2015 bought 3 samsung 42" 4k tvs for my staff ... as architects they are great,, fit a full size A1 drawing at 1:1 scale , $500 usdat the time.. hald the price of my DELL 31" monitor and they still going strong !
I did this very thing... although I didn't get a 65", but rather 2 x 43" Samsung M70B series (currently $450 each on Amazon), which has 2 HDMI and 1 USB-C input each. They're HUGE but still small enough to put on a heavy-duty monitor arm, if that's your preference. Meanwhile, I also have a 65" TV in my home office that I've hooked an old gaming PC to... looks fantastic for games that don't need a super-high fps! So even if 65" is too big, the idea of using TVs as monitors is, IMO, a great one. And by going not super-huge, the non-curved screen isn't so bad.
I have been using a 43" LG led tv as a monitor for the past ten years or so. It is my PC monitor and entertainment center as I watch U-tube videos, netflix video, and dvds with it. It is the reason my current PC case has a dvd 5.25 inch bay as i wanted to have a dvd/cd burner/player to watch movies with it. I also have it hooked into a receiver with a 5.1 surround sound setup. I sit about 10 feet away from it so resizing windows to 125% helps. I plan on getting a 65" OLED soon as an upgrade.
A commenter said that he placed the bottom of the large TV lower than the desktop, and that makes a lot of sense to me. More shallow desk, a ways from the wall, TV smack against the wall and from your seating position you see the bottom of the screen, which is below desktop level, looking OVER the back end of the desk, and that desk doesn't have a screen hovering over it.
Great and interesting video. I'm sure its awesome.. but its making me feel like I just bought the last seat in the cinema.. you know.. the last ones at the front! I just don't think I could sit that close. What about the LG Dual UP monitor?
Been using TV screen for work for a long time. My laptop screen below, TV screen on top... using the laptop screen for playing a YT video or music while using top screen for editing, coding etc. Easier on the eyes, don't need glasses etc.
I am doing the same thing. I am still considering propping the main up on the wall a bit and adding smaller units to the left and right for separate windows (email, fantasy football updates :) ).
Just had a new 85" 4k HISense ($949!!) mounted on the wall, and, it looks absolutely amazing connected to either computer, one at 1080P the other at 4k....
Using a 65inch 4k TV with my Linux PC for all kinds of stuff (programming, gaming etc.). Got it 2018. Works like a charm. Distance 2m. Upscaling with KDE works flawlessly for me. IMHO there is a reason that TVs dont get USB-C with Displayport. Manufacturers want to make some extra money by selling their dedicated PC screens. But that's just a guess from me.
I purchased the 55", as a replacement for a faulty neo g9.. love it! While i currently it for my xbox series x, i will be using it as a monitor for a pc build im working on.
I have been using 42-inch Tvs as monitors since 2011, I can't use my laptop or PC with normal monitors, but I have been noticing it's becoming a trend nowadays! I would always recommend 42 /43 inches if you have a 31-inch deep desk, anything bigger than that it becomes too much on the neck, however, i don't game allot i sometimes I play Fifa on PS5 only and Tvs are great for that / using them for productivity, lately I have been eyeing a combination of LG c2 + Lg dual Up but since I have seen a lot of reviews on Lg c2 burning , now I am thinking of Samsung 43 inch Qled + the Lg dual up that will be a great compo, I believe this compo will become a trend in 3 years time lol
I've been using 2x 43" 4k screens as monitors for about 4 years now. I won't go to bigger screens, because 2x 43" only just fit on my desk, bigger would not work. The result is really great. I have enormous screen real estate, and the image and text are perfect. Personally I won't even consider any alternatives for my monitor.
I use a SAMSUNG 32-Inch Class QLED Q60A Series - 4K UHD Dual LED Quantum HDR Smart TV as a monitor, starting a few days ago. It has been better than my previous Dell monitors, especially the extra screen real estate.
I paid 800 euros for my 75 inches 4K Samsung TV, which I use as my main monitor. I also have 2 TVs in portrait mode, left one is 55" and the right one is 43". There's a few annoyances but I'd be unable to afford this setup otherwise.
Not for me... I can't stand having to move my head to look into corners when I could usually use my eyes. Somewhere between 27" and 30" is the sweet spot for me personally. Secondary screens are ok because they're entirely new desktops and don't move important UI elements on your main screen. Maybe I'd be more into huge screen if we could split them nicely into a few virtual desktops. I'm wondering if people have tried this TV solution for 50 hours a week over many weeks and not become a bit annoyed by it...
Can you install a remote sliding track for the tv so you can adjust how far it is when you sit infront? "Ikea Cabinet with Automatic slide out TV Mechanism from Firgelli Auto" do it front to back instead, not sideways.
ive bought some cheap samsung 55 8K tv to check how would be to play games(mostly rpg and stategies) and its amazing, level of details on such big screen with high 8K is wonderfull. i also use it to work (visual studio) and its totaly ok :)
been using my tv as my monitor since 2010. when my old 42 inch died i bought one in 2019 that is a 49 inch LG for $900 Canadian that could do 120hz pc input which is what you really want for pc gaming in a tv. brightness of 1500 nits, HDR. i'll never go back since you get way more screen space in a tv for what you would pay for the same price in a monitor. plus a lot of times you get free channels on most tv's now as well as other aps
55" LG OLED for less than USD 1000.- in Switzerland, 16:9 aspect ratio, so works perfect with PS5, ARC, again, needed to work perfect with a PS5. Pixel refresher, so also no worries when used for office works.
Wall mounting is an option, but if you want to save putting holes in your wall, just buy a little stand. I have a narrow console table just for the monitor and my desk is a few feet away in front of it. I makes your desk cleaner since you can have all the hardware on the console table or under it and save your desk for just the mouse and keyboard. Saves you having to turn your head all the time looking at the left and right side.
I have the 55” Q95 - been using it for just over a year with my gaming PC. It’s outstanding for gaming and work. I can’t go back to a smaller monitor. Cyberpunk on a 4080 looks amazing. Only problem is HDR implementation on windows, it’s trash
A higher resolution can make your pc run slower so keep that in mind if you have lower end specs, I run a 2k and a 1080p monitor both 27" for better performance and to also not strain my eyes too much from being sat so close (bigger monitors give me crazy migraines) Thanks for the video though, gonna connect my friends Mac to his big TV for music production.
TVs have superior picture quality compared to monitors with factors like glossy coating , wider color space and picture quality enhancements . I also wonder how color accurate (no oversaturatedness) would they be out of the box . If I have money and space , I would consider a nice TV as my monitor .
I have been a couple 4k TV's as monitors for several years. Never looked back. I have had a great experience with Visio, and they are WAY cheaper than anything Samsung Makes. They offer very goof Color quality as well. Though I have spent some considerable time getting the color tuned in to its best capabilities.
I now use 2x 65" Samsung TVs as my computer productivity and gaming setup. I will eventually upgrade them to 120hz OLEDs but they still have an amazing contrast ratio and look fantastic. I used to use 2x55", but the truth is 4k desktop is better in 65" (you can see more without scaling) and TV/gaming is SO MUCH MORE IMMERSIVE on a bigger display. 4k is 8.3 million pixels, which means to truly utlilise it, you need a large display. I lean back though in my chair and do not sit near super close to the screens. Questions about dot pitch just dont arise when you sit back. Having a bigger screen allows more detail to be seen.
@@PeteMatheson I have a large L-shaped desk. In front of me directly is the main one, then next to it and straddling 2 desks is the other one, and I sit so my legs are kind of in between both screens leaning back. I need 2 screens because I'm a programmer and like to have chat and stuff on other display
I use a 55" Samsung LED. Pro tip: I use a free program called Divvy to place each program in exactly the correct place with a hot key. I run a lot of windows.
I've been using a Tv for years on my computers. My current main monitor is a Samsung 55" UN55. I sit about 8ft away with my scaling at 150% and find it fits my usage almost perfect. I think if I was using it in a desk setting, I'd more likely to drop down to a 45" like what I run on my sim rig, which is a Samsung UN series as well. In total I spent less than $1000 new.
I do have three 4K TV, a 43 and 65 inch Samsung as well as a LG C1 OLED attached to my 3 computers, all in a matrix surrounding my desk. A 36 inch 60hz 1440p in portrait mode on the right. I just use them as dumb computer monitors, I never use the TV apps. The TV with HDMI or Display Port cables work fine less that HDR issue. But prior to doing this, I did pay for one of those 144hz 4K 43 inch gaming monitors. Awaiting the day you can roll your TV onto the wall, and completely cover a entire wall.
In terms of pixel density, a 43" 4K is like having 4 - 21" 1080p screens combined. A 49" is like 4 - 24" 1080p screens combined. A 55" is like 4 - 27" screens combined. Now if you go get an 8K 65" TV, that would be like having 16 - 16" 1080p screens. He should have went with a 8K at 65". The thing is, a 49" is okay without a curve but it's pushing it for me. A 65" without a curve is a bit tough. You have to start strafing to use the edge of your monitor because if you just use pitch and yaw, you won't have consistent size text because you'll be too far from the edge. LOL. We need curved 65" 8K monitors at affordable prices, please!
haha! Good points. 65" was probably a bit silly, but I think the point still stands with maybe something like a 48" screen, but with all the benefits of the extended warranty etc!
Been doing it for 10 years, sitting at desk with a 32 inch monitor right now.... Down side it kills your video card, tv will start the cepatone thing about 5 yrs in,. Been through three tvs in my programming life, using state of the art desktop now.
Can you review using an 8k Samsung tv for a computer monitor? That is what I'm thinking about doing. And btw, you're not ridiculous to use a large monitor. I have a 32" Dell monitor, and I wish I got the lager size. You fell less cramped using a larger monitor, a feeling you wouldn't understand if you never used one. Thanks for the revivew. subscribed.
When you use these huge monitors as screens is there way of going below 100 percent scaling in Windows 11 so I see more on the screen not just bigger characters? Other software? Great video.
Don't do it. I used a 40" HDR 4K TV for 4 years and I ended up with neck pain. Initially it was great, but sitting at 40" away from the screen, even looking at the clock in one of the corners meant moving the whole head. In the end I found myself positioning everything in the center of the screen and sizing the various windows in an area that was about the same as a 32" screen. When the TV developed a defect that could not be repaired under warranty, I happily replaced it with a 4K 31.5" HDR monitor. Neck pain stopped as I could just look at the whole screen without moving my head.
Yeah, 40'' and above is probably too big for a monitor right in front of you. 32'' would probably be the max reasonable size for a classic monitor/TV. Unless you have those curved ultra wide monitors, 32'' is the max sensible I think.
Excellent review as usual Pete! If I watched more tv, and gamed less, I'd really consider this. I just spend too much time with my neo. Speaking of neo, is there any way you could do a software/firmware update for G9? Or could you point me in the right direction?
Ah yes you can! You need to download the update from the Samsung support website. Put it on a USB stick and then plug that in to the back of the monitor. Are you having issues with the Neo?
Can you use these kind of TV setups so that you have your tv mounted on the wall but your actual desk is further back from it, like 2m (6ft), or is it simply just too small to see windows on screen then?
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Would you be tempted to use a TV as a Monitor??
im getting q90t for 600 dollar
how close you sit to the tv its like ur trolling
Yes. It's BIG! Going 85".
Thanks for the video. I am leaning towards lg c2 42" for my use (30% coding, 40% photo-video editing, 20% entertainment, 10% movies). A quick question, I've watched 10s of youtube videos and read 10s of Reddit posts. But couldn't find that by hook or crook (external software, service remote etc)
can LG C2 42" do a split screen? For example, Hook up a laptop and MacBook pro to different HDMI and display at the same time.
You're too close to the TV. I use a 37" wide lcd tv. It's advised that you need to be at least as far as wide from the TV but preferably twice as far so that your eyes won't get damage from the brightness&radiation especially as your eyes will be focused on it for hours. I'll probably get something bigger but again u need to be a certain distant so that radiant energy won't damage your eyes and have less headaches(blue light?).
Been using a TV for PC for over 20 years now. Thumbs up to you for letting people know this.
You have a 65''' TV right in front of your face? Or you are using something more sensible, like an old 32''' TV?
How is your vision?
A lot of us are waiting for a 32-40 inch version. 55+ inches with HDR on can feel like im staring into the sun.
I'm actually seriously considering the new Hisense U8K or U7K since the 32-40 inch Mini Led seems to be insanely expensive somehow. Anything over 1000$ USD is too much for me to justify buying.
If hou think you are staring into a sun, then you sit too close. The point of using such screen is so that you can sit comfortably, on sofa or something, and far away from said "monitor".
I have seen many little "sun" laptop screen already. I really wondered why those people made it so bright.
@@williamshevr Hey I am also thinking to get a QN90B 43" and use as a Monitor+TV for my desk.
How does the text look on it? Especially on apps with dark mode?(I usually spend my day coding on apps with dark mode on) Does it have it lot of blooming? I reckon 43" would have much lesser dimming zones than 55" or higher.
Really appreciate your time on this :)
Turn the brightness down. A few years ago, all of us used LCD that put out 300 nits or so. That was perfectly fine. When playing a game or watching movies/streaming, switch modes and turn up the brightness.
I use the LG C1 OLED48C11LB with my Mac Mini in game mode (HDR). Also dark mode is preferred. I wouldn’t change it for anything else. It is a delight to work with 👌🏻 Edit: I do not use it for gaming.
I used a 65" TV as a monitor for a week or so before returning it for a 42". Corners were just too far away for my taste. One thing I did for the 65 incher was modify my desk so the bottom of the screen was like 6 inches below the level of my keyboard. That way I'd generally have to look down to see more information, as opposed to looking up. I found that much more comfortable.
42 feels like the sweet spot for "oversized" screen on a desk.
I thought of something similar recently. Seems like a great way to open viewing angle and bring the top of the screen (array) closer. I'm thinking of going with the 57" dual 4K ultrawide when I also dive in head first with a powerful gaming pc or laptop. The curve seems worth it for a bunch of applications, and the resolution is amazing. I like the idea of a large TV screen, but it may also just be too intense.
Been watching a lot of videos about monitors recently, and this is the most absurd setup I have seen so far! Nice work!
Wohoo! haha 🥳
Sitting close to such a large screen is a killer for your neck. Ask me how I know. However, I fixed that by mounting the screen on the wall having the top of the screen no more than 15cm above eye level. That meant i had to move the desk away from the wall in order for me to see the bottom of the screen. It works like a charm. No more stress on the neck.
I went and got a TV floor stand and 37" depth desk from korea, and your right it makes a big difference with your neck.
The easy fix for that is to buy a gamer chair and lay back at an angle and you won't have any neck pain at all.
Been doing that since covid and home-office. 😅
Killer for your eyes too.
@@CinemaRescoredhonestly, not at all.
@@jamc666I tried that, but laying back while working made me fell asleep 🤣 No, seriously, I still stand by my choice. It is the only way to go.
For anyone thinking of going this route, I'd suggest taping some text documents to a wall within the target TV size. Sit at the distance you plan to be from the monitor and see how you find reading documents. Also, if in a windowed room, I found screen glare an issue at some viewing angles.
I don't have the room, so my current setup is pretty modest, and not TVs. A 27" 2K curved Acer in landscape and 24" 1080p flat Acer in portrait for webpages/documents. I have the 1080p angled about 20 degrees so when I turn my head I'm looking straight into it.
Don't give into the curved display fad nonsense that requires a specific viewing angle and distance to preserve geometry. Image Quality > Novelty
Not necessary. You can easily increase the size of the zoom and enlarge text to a size you can easily read.
@@Desert-edDave curved displays are not nonsense. They make a lot of sense for PC monitors that are only used by one person at a time.
I just started to use a 55 inch TV for my monitor and got rid of the 2 smaller monitors I use to use, I gotta say I like it, though my desk is pretty deep so setting it back as far as it can go works out, I normally game in a window anyway and it's nice having so much desktop space to do things.
I've been using a 55" tv for a monitor for about 9 years now. It did seem big at 1st but now, I don't think I could go back to a small monitor. There are only a couple games I like playing and the tv does just fine with those. I mostly just watch movies and youtube anyway, reading web pages, email or documents is no problem.
I'm using a 75" QLED Fire TV. I live in a really small place, and it's pretty great. I sit on the couch 6' away from the screen , and I've got a mechanical keyboard and a trackball glued to a lap desk. It's totally perfect!
I feel like a 43"or 49"TV might be a better fit over a 55" or 65". Definitely been looking at TVs recently to replace my monitor, mainly because monitors are ridiculously priced lately.
Agreed!
They used to make curved TV's - I wonder what happened to them? (They all seem to have changed into monitors!)
@@PeteMatheson yeah Samsung we’re still rolling out new curved TV models as late as last year in some markets I believe. But they’re essentially not a thing anymore. Maybe it didn’t have much of an impact given we sit quite far from them?
If my next monitor isn’t a TV, I’ll probably grab a couple of flat 27” 1440p monitors 👌
I'm eyeing up the new Samsung 35" Screen next, potentially dual 35's if I can fit it somehow!
@@PeteMatheson dual 35's?! You'd need a chonker of a desk for that lol. I'm trying to downsize my huge desk. Potentially going for a wall mounted desk setup and mounted monitors, not 100% sure yet though.
Also, I wish the embody chair was available where I am, seems nowhere sells it near me 😏
43" sitting 2 to 3 feet away, is nearly the perfect size to fill the field of view of binocular vision and be able to focus on the entire screen without turning your head.
I've been using a Samsung 43" OLED 4k TV as my monitor/TV for the last two months and haven't encountered any drawbacks. I'm still getting used to the differences in workflow having such an enormous amount of screen but overall it's a much better experience now than my two side by side 2k computer monitors. Eventually will upgrade to maybe a 55". Unless you are an extreme competitive gamer this is the way to go and I'm pretty sure most people will be doing this in the future. There's too many positives. Thanks for the great video and look forward to learning more about your experiences.
unless you play sim games only like flight simulator or actual sim racing games.
this is the dumbest idea ever.
its way to big to ever use that screen space in a nearly effective comfortable way.
and you neve can sit at the right distance because of its sheer size.
the way better solution is 3 x "27"inch (and thats already scratching close to the maximum size that is usable comfortably and efficiently) screens even if they are only 1080p way more organized way cheaper way more comfortable to use overall way way better for every szenario compared to this huuuuge screen you never can utilize in a meaning full way.
@@mrchillgreen I've been using a 43" TV as my monitor for 5 yrs now. Docs, casual gaming, multimedia/photoshop work, and it's completely fine. My previous setup was a 34" LG widescreen flanked by two 27" monitors and the big TV is just cleaner, easier, and far cheaper.
Fantastic video, Pete!...Currently, using a 55" Sony A80K TV and Apple TV 4K in my bedroom as well as connected to my PC in four quadrants - As a non-gamer, Sony TV looks breath-taking!
Thanks Rodney! I’ve been wanting to test out some Sony TVs soon (hopefully!) as it’s been a while since I last used one. Love the setup!
I've been using my Sony 55" as a monitor for close to 10 years now. It started when I moved into a small studio apartment and the TV is literally at the base of my bed and no where to setup my computer desk. I looked at the back of my computer and found the HDMI port from my Nvida card and looked at the back of my TV and said out loud, "I wonder....". And it worked flawlessly!!! Best Day Ever. I'll never go back.
I have been using my 65" 4K TV as a computer monitor for months. Before this I used my 55" 4K TV as my computer monitor. I have it set up in my lounge room, attached to my computer. I use it for everything. Entertainment, music, work. I sit comfortably on my sofa with my wireless mouse and keyboard. I can do everything I need in absolute comfort. I've been using this setup for more than 3 years and I'm a very happy chappy. It's also connected to my 5.1 surround sound system. It cost me so much less than a monitor with limited usability. Cheers
Where do you place your keyboard though? I’ve tried on my legs, too unstable..
@@Pameliux23 Hi Pameliux23, I've been using keyboards on my lap for years in the office because it doesn't hurt my arms, hands, wrists or fingers. I also use a short keyboard without the number pad. Stability has never been an issue for me. But comfort definitely is. I hope your day is great for you, mine was wonderful. Cheers
@@SirDilbere thanks for your response, I’ll give it another try then! I also have a small keyboard. Have a nice day!
This is the way! Same here. I want to upgrade to 70" or more for that 1080p 240hz first person shooter immersion 3 feet from the screen. You just have to pull back a bit until the screen door goes away and you pop in the game FOV.
I've been using my tv as a monitor since I bought it in 2008. A Samsung series 6, 52" . Yes it is 2023. Yes my tv is still working great! It is why I luv Samsung. Their TVs are top notch.
Yeap they are
For a 4K TV as desktop monitor, given the distance, a 55" TV is the largest you want to keep pixel tolerable. Ideally to avoid seeing pixels, 48-52" is better. 27" at 1080p is the largest size at that res regarding pixelation. In 4K, that results in 4 x 27" 1080p monitors. Equivalent to a 54" TV.
what about 8k tv 65"? The equivalent to this monitor would be Samsung 900C or Samsung 900B TV series
@@rockapartie it's just fine
How about 65-70in 4k TV for PC gaming only
As far as pixels go... did you see this dude in the video looking up at his 65'' TV? 😃
You can just pull back a foot until it looks smooth. For shooters having a 1080 50" 120hz is glorious. You don't need 24k, you need stable frame rate and immersion. Adjust the FOV and your distance to the screen and if you're lucky you'll feel when your brain slides into the game. For single player games yes you'll probably need to save for a small Vegas sphere to make it.
Great video. Great minds think alike I guess. I have been using a TV as my PC Monitor since 2014 because I felt like most TV's had better picture quality and more features than a monitor and were more cost effective. At this time I have been using the Samsung QN90A 43 Inch Mini LED TV as my PC monitor since last year and have posted a few videos about it on my TH-cam channel and I am very, very happy with it! Thank you for making this video to confirm what I have been saying all along.
Good stuff!
I actually use a tv as my monitor too! It's not a fancy one, but it's so nice have that bigger screen when working.
Using a TV as a computer's display device is actually an age-old practice among those of us who owned home computers back in the 1980's. TV sets were more commonly used than monitors as the display devices of such home computers as the Commodore VIC-20, the Commodore 64, and the Atari 8-bit series (i.e., Atari 400 and Atari 800).
You took it back all the way Commodore-64... may I add my first which was the TI-99/4A with the video converter that had a coax connector. 🤔🫣
I owe my glasses to such a setup
Yep, and PC users who swap video files have long used their spare PCs as media machines to run their TV
Having a PC web-browser run TH-cam on my TV also means I can blok ads and type in the search bar with a proper keyboard....
It's the way to go, the youtube app on TVs is pretty basic....
Smoke 'em if you've got 'em.
I had the same thing. Texas Instruments. Great first computer to get your feet wet with.@@jinkenz6459
I'm using a 43" TV and don't really think anything bigger is desireable. I bought an inexpensive 4K MI TV for my M2 Mac Mini and highly recommend the 43" size. I don't do much gaming but Logic Pro and watching sports work out great. So, as a regular user of a TV monitor, I'd think twice about going any bigger than 43".
Great video. I have been using "TV's" as my computer { Monitor } for a very long time. currently I am using a Samsung 52" 4k tv. It was maybe $300 + tax if I remember right. My system looks wonderful.
I went the 55" qn90, have it bolted down with a forward lean on a tall table with weights at the back for stability and I relax sitting back on a lazy boy relining chair. No back problems ever again!+
ooooh, lazy boy - very nice idea! haha
I just did my own set up. I have a laptop hooked up to my 40 tv that's on a swivel mount. I found that I had to move the desk back a couple feet to make it comfortable.
As I write this, I am looking at this video my on a Phillips 55" 4K TV which has replaced my previous triple-24" monitor setup. I don't game. That allowed me to pick a much less expensive TV (mine was $249 on sale). I am very happy with this setup. I work remotely and my M1 MacBook Pro drives it very nicely. I love being able to view wide Excel worksheets without have them spilt across screens.
Thanks for the review.
I'm a Hardware Developer, now learning Software Development. Right now I use 2x 32" monitors side by side. The 49" ultra wode monitors are not high enough for my purposes (2x27" monitor side by side screen size)
This is a very interesting solution for having large horizontal and vertical space. I'm only concerned about high angle of views of the corners.
Thanks for the review
For the last few years, I have been using a 42 inch 4k tv as my main pc monitor AND tv. It has worked out well. Its not too big to see all of it easily while only sitting 1.5 feet away. The biggest issue has been dimming the brightness. A standard TV is too bright and the colors are too exaggerated. So I had to adjust down a bit from the defaults. And that windows 300% setting? I have mine on 150% which has been perfect for apps like davinci resolve that use a LOT of screen space.
I use a 50" TV as a monitor and i love it.
The vertical screen real estate is the main benefit.
I've been using a 70 inch UHD 4K TV as one of my monitors ( for gaming ) for ages, I love it as I don't have to wear my glasses to read text on the screen.. It only cost me $750 Australian dollars NEW.
It's only 60Hz (60fps max), but I don't mind, I have my GPU locked to no more than 60 FPS and I get a smooth 60 FPS like a gaming console on TV. Cheers.
EDIT: btw, I sit about 10 foot away from the screen, and in the display settings I have the Advanced scaling on 300% to make everything look normal again instead of tinchy tiny text and icons in 4K.
I've been using my 46" Sony Bravia HDTV as a computer monitor for the last 13 years. It was part of a plan to consolidate all of my electronics into one location along with my gaming consoles and Bluray player. The TV is too big to sit a couple of inches from it, so I have a couch a comfortable 6 feet away from it. When I'm using my computer (which is all the time), I type with a wireless keyboard in my lap and my mouse parked at my side. This LCD display has served me well for years, but I'm having the temptation to upgrade to a 4K TV. I'm currently looking at a Samsung Q80C as it's one of the best TVs I can afford. All the other TVs on the market are just too expensive for me.
A 4K TV, especially at that size, would be a massive improvement if you're using it as a monitor.
Just having 4K would be a massive improvement if you're using a screen that size as a monitor.
Thank you so much for this amazing video, I have a Samsung QN8206 TAF, I wireless, connected my laptop to it and it's absolutely fantastic I didn't even know I could do that with an extended display seeing all that real estate on an 82-in TV is absolutely fantastic I have had this TV over a year and didn't know it could do all this thanks again, and thank you for sharing this amazing information. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
DPI on a 4k 43 inch TV is around 100, which works well for a monitor. I have a 43 inch Qn90b and set it to 1440p with no scaling when at the desk, which makes a 28 inch display. Then I use my Xbox for fullscreen gaming from the sofa.
If you sit close like a normal monitor, I think curved is better once larger than around 27-30 inches. Otherwise the geometry of things looks wrong because the edges are so much further away.
Hey i keep reading that the 43 inch has viewing angle issues where the top and bottom are messed up when sitting at monitor distance, is this true?
@@Freelancer604 The viewing angle left to right is quite narrow - I have a 2 person sofa 6ft away and sitting at the edges begins to distort colours and make blooming visible. I haven't noticed anything vertically though. Without downsizing the screen as suggested, sitting close to 43 inches is really distorted because the edges are so much further away than the middle, so the middle bulges towards you and it's too overwhelming.
I had a curved 32 inch monitor before this and I'd say that was around the limit depending on what you were doing - I struggled to play fast fps games on it while at the desk. Great multitasking with desktop work though.
I'm in the UK and I'm not sure if they use a different panel on the 43 inch in the US. The RTings review seemed to suggest it might be different compared to Europe.
@@Freelancer604 I can atest It's true by my experience only. I used to have a 42" Lg 1080p lcd TV as a monitor, and I remember the edges looked wrong. The same occurs if I sit too much close to my 55" Lg Oled. When the first 4k TVs were available at my place, I picked a curved 48" Samsung TV (un48ju6700) for my main monitor and never looked back. The edges look perfect with the Samsung, or better saying, I never notice them, it's like the screen insn't curved at all.
@@giovanitassi1437 thanks for the reply. I ended up buying a an alienware 34 dwf
People always complain about being able to see pixels even on laptops 😂
I used a 32" LG for a year before downsizing to a 27". I feel 32" is my upper limit, but 27" is perfect. I've used a 42" at work and couldn't stand it. Constantly turning my head to see what is in front of me. And if I back up far enough that I don't need to turn my head, well, it's not covering the field of view to make it worth my time. 27 is the sweet spot.
I find the 1000r curve is perfect for me, especially on a larger screen! Obviously this one doesn't have a curve though
I just bought a Samsung Crystal HD yesterday for my desk. It has automatic read out for gaming, Samsung Dex ( whixh is crazy) and PC on tv. It's a 43 inch whis is pretty much perfect size. Used it as a monitor last night and I was pleasantly surprised.
I have been using a 43” 4K LG TV as my main “work” monitor for 2 years now. It can do PiP and split-screen modes which is very useful when taking a break 😂
I use a mixture of TV's and monitors for my triple screen setup. A small 19" monitor I use for the visual output of coding projects I'm working on, an LG tv 22" for the coding editor and a 40" Samsung as my main screen for movies and TH-cam vids etc. I had just the 19" monitor for years before I got lucky and a work mate sold me the 40" second hand and then my flatmate gave me the LG tv.
I absolutely love gaming, watching gameplay and movies on the 40", even more so for simulator games, bus, racing, flying sims etc; It's so immersive. A bigger screen is a few years down the line until I'm in a more suitable place, but I can only drool at the thought of how immersive a huge TV like that must be. Thanks for your ideas.
A 65" monitor needs to have an 8k resolution, minimum. Especially when used up close like a typical monitor instead of being viewed from a distance the way one would typically use a tv.
I run a similar set up. I have a wall mounted Hisense 50U6G (50"). I know the instinct is to have the monitor on the desk but by having it on the wall, I can move my desk further or closer as needed. I use Tiles so I can quickly organize my windows. It's so much better than my dual 30" monitors desk setup at work. I went this route because monitors are insanely expensive and I can't see where the money is going, at least for the design work I do. TV+mount+speakers was about $550. I can't go back to monitors after this.
I have 3 TVs around the house and an old PC wired into all of them.I use them mainly for internet which is so much better than built in TV browsers.
in 2015 bought 3 samsung 42" 4k tvs for my staff ... as architects they are great,, fit a full size A1 drawing at 1:1 scale , $500 usdat the time.. hald the price of my DELL 31" monitor and they still going strong !
I did this very thing... although I didn't get a 65", but rather 2 x 43" Samsung M70B series (currently $450 each on Amazon), which has 2 HDMI and 1 USB-C input each. They're HUGE but still small enough to put on a heavy-duty monitor arm, if that's your preference. Meanwhile, I also have a 65" TV in my home office that I've hooked an old gaming PC to... looks fantastic for games that don't need a super-high fps! So even if 65" is too big, the idea of using TVs as monitors is, IMO, a great one. And by going not super-huge, the non-curved screen isn't so bad.
I have been using a 43" LG led tv as a monitor for the past ten years or so. It is my PC monitor and entertainment center as I watch U-tube videos, netflix video, and dvds with it. It is the reason my current PC case has a dvd 5.25 inch bay as i wanted to have a dvd/cd burner/player to watch movies with it. I also have it hooked into a receiver with a 5.1 surround sound setup. I sit about 10 feet away from it so resizing windows to 125% helps. I plan on getting a 65" OLED soon as an upgrade.
I remember 15 inch iMacs. Is it safe to sit a foot away from a 65” radiating light?
A commenter said that he placed the bottom of the large TV lower than the desktop, and that makes a lot of sense to me.
More shallow desk, a ways from the wall, TV smack against the wall and from your seating position you see the bottom of the screen, which is below desktop level, looking OVER the back end of the desk, and that desk doesn't have a screen hovering over it.
Great and interesting video. I'm sure its awesome.. but its making me feel like I just bought the last seat in the cinema.. you know.. the last ones at the front!
I just don't think I could sit that close. What about the LG Dual UP monitor?
Yeah, maybe I took it a liiiitle too far with the 65". But I do think something like 48" might be the sweet spot for something like this?
Yep I plan on doing this May for my setup and replacing my dual screens with the 48 inch lg c2. :)
Very nice!
I’m tempted to upgrade my C1 to a c2, but now tempted to wait for this years models :)
Been using TV screen for work for a long time. My laptop screen below, TV screen on top... using the laptop screen for playing a YT video or music while using top screen for editing, coding etc.
Easier on the eyes, don't need glasses etc.
Looks like my search ends here thank you so much 🙏
I am doing the same thing. I am still considering propping the main up on the wall a bit and adding smaller units to the left and right for separate windows (email, fantasy football updates :) ).
I use a 75” all the time. I love it!
Nice!! How are your eyes? Lol
Just had a new 85" 4k HISense ($949!!) mounted on the wall, and, it looks absolutely amazing connected to either computer, one at 1080P the other at 4k....
85", insane! :D
Using a 65inch 4k TV with my Linux PC for all kinds of stuff (programming, gaming etc.). Got it 2018. Works like a charm. Distance 2m. Upscaling with KDE works flawlessly for me.
IMHO there is a reason that TVs dont get USB-C with Displayport. Manufacturers want to make some extra money by selling their dedicated PC screens. But that's just a guess from me.
I purchased the 55", as a replacement for a faulty neo g9.. love it!
While i currently it for my xbox series x, i will be using it as a monitor for a pc build im working on.
Good choice!
Dude
Thanks for the video, I can’t imagine working/browsing that closely for too long. Cheers,
Any time!
I have been using 42-inch Tvs as monitors since 2011, I can't use my laptop or PC with normal monitors, but I have been noticing it's becoming a trend nowadays! I would always recommend 42 /43 inches if you have a 31-inch deep desk, anything bigger than that it becomes too much on the neck, however, i don't game allot i sometimes I play Fifa on PS5 only and Tvs are great for that / using them for productivity, lately I have been eyeing a combination of LG c2 + Lg dual Up but since I have seen a lot of reviews on Lg c2 burning , now I am thinking of Samsung 43 inch Qled + the Lg dual up that will be a great compo, I believe this compo will become a trend in 3 years time lol
I've been using 2x 43" 4k screens as monitors for about 4 years now. I won't go to bigger screens, because 2x 43" only just fit on my desk, bigger would not work.
The result is really great. I have enormous screen real estate, and the image and text are perfect.
Personally I won't even consider any alternatives for my monitor.
I have a LG C1 48", but it really requires a deep desk to prevent fatigue. It's a great display otherwise.
just picked up a qe43qn90b for £600, it's awesome!
I use a SAMSUNG 32-Inch Class QLED Q60A Series - 4K UHD Dual LED Quantum HDR Smart TV as a monitor, starting a few days ago. It has been better than my previous Dell monitors, especially the extra screen real estate.
I paid 800 euros for my 75 inches 4K Samsung TV, which I use as my main monitor. I also have 2 TVs in portrait mode, left one is 55" and the right one is 43". There's a few annoyances but I'd be unable to afford this setup otherwise.
Not for me... I can't stand having to move my head to look into corners when I could usually use my eyes. Somewhere between 27" and 30" is the sweet spot for me personally. Secondary screens are ok because they're entirely new desktops and don't move important UI elements on your main screen. Maybe I'd be more into huge screen if we could split them nicely into a few virtual desktops.
I'm wondering if people have tried this TV solution for 50 hours a week over many weeks and not become a bit annoyed by it...
I'm with you. It seems like a strain on the neck having to look up and down.
Can you install a remote sliding track for the tv so you can adjust how far it is when you sit infront?
"Ikea Cabinet with Automatic slide out TV Mechanism from Firgelli Auto" do it front to back instead, not sideways.
ive bought some cheap samsung 55 8K tv to check how would be to play games(mostly rpg and stategies) and its amazing, level of details on such big screen with high 8K is wonderfull. i also use it to work (visual studio) and its totaly ok :)
Next, with a bit of work, you could carry it around as your phone.
been using my tv as my monitor since 2010. when my old 42 inch died i bought one in 2019 that is a 49 inch LG for $900 Canadian that could do 120hz pc input which is what you really want for pc gaming in a tv. brightness of 1500 nits, HDR. i'll never go back since you get way more screen space in a tv for what you would pay for the same price in a monitor. plus a lot of times you get free channels on most tv's now as well as other aps
55" LG OLED for less than USD 1000.- in Switzerland,
16:9 aspect ratio, so works perfect with PS5,
ARC, again, needed to work perfect with a PS5.
Pixel refresher, so also no worries when used for office works.
I use a 43" Acer 4k monitor. Thats the best size for 4k resolution, if you are into graphic design. Beyond this size the pixels would be visible.
i have been doing this for years, my monitor right now is a 65 inch 4k TCL smart tv, Its only 60hz but works great.
Wall mounting is an option, but if you want to save putting holes in your wall, just buy a little stand. I have a narrow console table just for the monitor and my desk is a few feet away in front of it. I makes your desk cleaner since you can have all the hardware on the console table or under it and save your desk for just the mouse and keyboard. Saves you having to turn your head all the time looking at the left and right side.
I have the 55” Q95 - been using it for just over a year with my gaming PC. It’s outstanding for gaming and work. I can’t go back to a smaller monitor. Cyberpunk on a 4080 looks amazing. Only problem is HDR implementation on windows, it’s trash
A higher resolution can make your pc run slower so keep that in mind if you have lower end specs, I run a 2k and a 1080p monitor both 27" for better performance and to also not strain my eyes too much from being sat so close (bigger monitors give me crazy migraines)
Thanks for the video though, gonna connect my friends Mac to his big TV for music production.
What about your neo g9? Just got mine last week. Loving it so far.
TVs have superior picture quality compared to monitors with factors like glossy coating , wider color space and picture quality enhancements . I also wonder how color accurate (no oversaturatedness) would they be out of the box .
If I have money and space , I would consider a nice TV as my monitor .
Lol , TVs does not have superior picture quality over monitors
@@teteakhiangte6015 By how ? How are monitors better than tvs in picture quality ?
Been using a 4K 42" TV for years for my recording studio PC, where it's critical to have that kind of real estate for your DAW and VSTs running...
I have a one model down from that what I found was you need to enable game mode on the tv then you can get at least 120hz on the PC
I have been a couple 4k TV's as monitors for several years. Never looked back. I have had a great experience with Visio, and they are WAY cheaper than anything Samsung Makes. They offer very goof Color quality as well. Though I have spent some considerable time getting the color tuned in to its best capabilities.
43" 4K is the perfect size for me. Great for gaming and productivity. Better pixel density and you don't break your neck looking at the screen.
I now use 2x 65" Samsung TVs as my computer productivity and gaming setup. I will eventually upgrade them to 120hz OLEDs but they still have an amazing contrast ratio and look fantastic.
I used to use 2x55", but the truth is 4k desktop is better in 65" (you can see more without scaling) and TV/gaming is SO MUCH MORE IMMERSIVE on a bigger display. 4k is 8.3 million pixels, which means to truly utlilise it, you need a large display. I lean back though in my chair and do not sit near super close to the screens. Questions about dot pitch just dont arise when you sit back. Having a bigger screen allows more detail to be seen.
I first read this as using 2 of them, then tried picturing how you’d fit 2 on one desk! 🤣
@@PeteMatheson I have a large L-shaped desk. In front of me directly is the main one, then next to it and straddling 2 desks is the other one, and I sit so my legs are kind of in between both screens leaning back. I need 2 screens because I'm a programmer and like to have chat and stuff on other display
I use a 55" Samsung LED. Pro tip: I use a free program called Divvy to place each program in exactly the correct place with a hot key. I run a lot of windows.
Is divvy installed in Windows?
Had a 40" 4k Monitor from Philips...was even curved and awesome to work!!
Unfortunately the VA panel was a disaster for gaming...
given the pixel problem here you just pointed out why not to do this nothing is going to beat a real display monitor
This tv model was probably a bit stupid. But a smaller 8k TV perhaps… 🤔
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I've been using a Tv for years on my computers. My current main monitor is a Samsung 55" UN55. I sit about 8ft away with my scaling at 150% and find it fits my usage almost perfect. I think if I was using it in a desk setting, I'd more likely to drop down to a 45" like what I run on my sim rig, which is a Samsung UN series as well. In total I spent less than $1000 new.
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I do have three 4K TV, a 43 and 65 inch Samsung as well as a LG C1 OLED attached to my 3 computers, all in a matrix surrounding my desk. A 36 inch 60hz 1440p in portrait mode on the right. I just use them as dumb computer monitors, I never use the TV apps. The TV with HDMI or Display Port cables work fine less that HDR issue. But prior to doing this, I did pay for one of those 144hz 4K 43 inch gaming monitors. Awaiting the day you can roll your TV onto the wall, and completely cover a entire wall.
In terms of pixel density, a 43" 4K is like having 4 - 21" 1080p screens combined. A 49" is like 4 - 24" 1080p screens combined. A 55" is like 4 - 27" screens combined. Now if you go get an 8K 65" TV, that would be like having 16 - 16" 1080p screens. He should have went with a 8K at 65". The thing is, a 49" is okay without a curve but it's pushing it for me. A 65" without a curve is a bit tough. You have to start strafing to use the edge of your monitor because if you just use pitch and yaw, you won't have consistent size text because you'll be too far from the edge. LOL. We need curved 65" 8K monitors at affordable prices, please!
haha! Good points. 65" was probably a bit silly, but I think the point still stands with maybe something like a 48" screen, but with all the benefits of the extended warranty etc!
I'm using a 40" TV right now and I think it's the perfect size. Can't imagine using a TV bigger than 40".
I think 48 might be the sweet spot.
Fair play but i think it needs curved sides, and then when it gets to 65 inch 16:9 then it needs curved top to bottom too as you say
I've been using 2 x 55" wall mounted tv's for years, i still haven't found a reason to go back to monitors
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Been doing it for 10 years, sitting at desk with a 32 inch monitor right now.... Down side it kills your video card, tv will start the cepatone thing about 5 yrs in,. Been through three tvs in my programming life, using state of the art desktop now.
Oh man. That pixel density is so ridiculously low. Why wount you try a Neo QLED 8K 55QN700B?
Can you review using an 8k Samsung tv for a computer monitor? That is what I'm thinking about doing. And btw, you're not ridiculous to use a large monitor. I have a 32" Dell monitor, and I wish I got the lager size. You fell less cramped using a larger monitor, a feeling you wouldn't understand if you never used one. Thanks for the revivew. subscribed.
Thank you!
Will look at this as an option also! Getting my hands on the tech is getting to be quite expensive !!
When you use these huge monitors as screens is there way of going below 100 percent scaling in Windows 11 so I see more on the screen not just bigger characters? Other software? Great video.
The main question is: Do doctors recommend or condemn using bug tvs as monitors? Can you worse your vision doing this?
Don't do it. I used a 40" HDR 4K TV for 4 years and I ended up with neck pain. Initially it was great, but sitting at 40" away from the screen, even looking at the clock in one of the corners meant moving the whole head.
In the end I found myself positioning everything in the center of the screen and sizing the various windows in an area that was about the same as a 32" screen.
When the TV developed a defect that could not be repaired under warranty, I happily replaced it with a 4K 31.5" HDR monitor. Neck pain stopped as I could just look at the whole screen without moving my head.
Same problem... 49' Ultra wide screen fix my neck pain problem.
Yeah, 40'' and above is probably too big for a monitor right in front of you. 32'' would probably be the max reasonable size for a classic monitor/TV. Unless you have those curved ultra wide monitors, 32'' is the max sensible I think.
I like that stand.
Excellent review as usual Pete! If I watched more tv, and gamed less, I'd really consider this. I just spend too much time with my neo. Speaking of neo, is there any way you could do a software/firmware update for G9? Or could you point me in the right direction?
I’m the same, spend much more time gaming than anything that doesn’t necessarily need a high refresh rate.
Ah yes you can! You need to download the update from the Samsung support website. Put it on a USB stick and then plug that in to the back of the monitor.
Are you having issues with the Neo?
I definitely find 120hz at least makes ‘normal computer stuff’ much more enjoyable, just wish my gaming PC could handle 200+ 🤣
Samsung now sells an 8k 55" TV, the pixel density is over twice as high but you will need a monstrous PC to push that many pixels at any framerates.
Can you use these kind of TV setups so that you have your tv mounted on the wall but your actual desk is further back from it, like 2m (6ft), or is it simply just too small to see windows on screen then?
Thanks for the review ❤❤❤