So if Anor Londo was originally in a desert, that makes Carthus, the Sandworm in Smoldering lake and the Profaned Capital far more thematically consistent. Because in the game as released, you have all this eastern/Mediterranean theming next to a snowy tundra map.
It would also make sense with the art for Dark Souls 3. The image of the Soul of Cinder looks like it features Anor Londo behind him, in a vast sandy wasteland. It makes sense to me that this was an idea that was scrapped in development.
Yes and Archdragon peak was originally supposed to be part of Carthus and all snakemen there just happen to wear robes that one would wear in a desert. I think the original desert setting would have been far more interesting. All lands would have had to adapt to it in the game.
@@Jonas-ob2sh i think they made irithyll snowy in the first place to make the game a little less dry and muted than it already is. imagine how much more samey the game would be if it was all desert themed
"Daughters of Ash" style Mod for Dark Souls 3 that restores the Dragon Mother/Angel of Dragons content, logical geographic progression, Gods Grave, and the Anor Londo ending. Make it happen, somebody.
@@riccardobenzoni8188 Seriously, seeing Dark Souls 3 being restored to that vision would be awesome. As someone else said below, wouldn't be surprised if Namco put the brakes on an overly "definitive" ending...
I would honestly prefer it if DS2 got that treatment first, but I would in no way object to DS3 getting it. Both games had so much more ambition and potential than was ever fully realised. Also: please don't entirely remove warping, walking all the way from Anor Londo to Firelink is NOT fun or challenging, it's just fucking tedious. More shortcuts, definitely, and a more interconnected map with fewer bonfires, but leave warping in. It saves so much time just trudging back through areas to go to vendors or farm earlier items
@@MonteScarf Honestly, I'd be down for either, too. 2 actually has some great narrative bits about hollowing and the state of amnesia that the world develops as a result. I don't know if 3's issues stemmed from too many options/indecisiveness or pushback in terms of finality. One thing that boggles my mind about 3 is when you see the original leaked screenshots, they had such a great DARK fantasy atmosphere. The washed out lighting and yellow tones of the final release don't look anywhere near as atmospheric as that early build, in my opinion.
So, basically, the DLC are a mashup of all the cut content. Like the Wolf ending in the Painting and the Ringed City being a mix between the Grave of the Gods and what would have happened in Irithyll. I feel like the Ringed City makes more sense now... Like the developpers had ideas in mind they didn't put in the game, so we have no clue they are here, but they still consider them. That's why the game make little sense. Also, the Yuria line "and now the Gods are no more" seems interesting now we know there were supposed to be a Grave of Gods.
Miyazaki: This games gonna have an area full of aborted babies. Miyazaki: and this one's gonna have baby skeletons! Miyazaki's boss: chill Miyazaki: ok THIS ones gonna have an invisible baby (quietly) that you indirectly murder and the Mom thanks you Miyazaki: And here we have a baby that gets smashed up during a fight and you hear everything D-does Miyazaki have children? Are they ok?
This is awesome. As Rich stated: it's the Northern Limits all over again. Things like this in games - such grand, out of reach, half-knowable cuts - are valuable despite their direct situation.They can really get the curiosity flowing. I'm almost glad such things happen during video game development.
I'd like to correct you on epitaphs. They translate as: "Man who sought the royal throne, here he lies. Blood did not acknowledge him." (王座を求めた男、ここに眠る。血が彼を認めることなかった) "Take the blood. In order to help the declined royal family" (血を受け入れよ。滅びゆくの王家の助けとならんが為に) There's another epitaph in Irithyll which says: "Hail the Dragon. Those who desire for the way to the King must not collapse halfway." (竜を讃えよ。王への道を欲すならば道半ばで倒れることなかれ) It now makes a lot more sense if you had to come there in order to find a way to Twin Princes and/or Oceiros. Although I was sure this is a reference to Thrones of Lords of Cinder. I wonder if Wolnyr/Yhorm had an artifact (basin?) among his pile of treasures which you'd need to plunder. And it makes A LOT of sense that pilgrims would be looking for something called God's Grave. Especially if it's Londor pilgrims looking for Manus' grave. HOWEVER! The epitaph in the Undead settlement tells: "obsession towards climbing the High Wall. Will pilgrims' souls reach beyond it after sacrificing their lives?" which makes me think: were they coming to God's Grave to transform into angels (Oceiros as an angel, huh?) or butterfly or maybe into those dragons Lance shown us and fly high towards Lothric Castle? 29:20 Well, the Divine Blessing description says that Queen of Lothric gave birth to Ocellote, so he most probably was his actual kid. Regarding the Boreal Valley. Does it say anywhere that the falling particles ares snow? The valley is Frigid, it is Boreal, but not snowy. There's no Sun to bring warmth, so it's frozen. I think that it's the actual ash that [made] look whitish, because of the unique lighting of the place. Because I must admit it looks cool. PS: this video has been up for 1.5 months? I feel myself a Gundyr Belated.
Regarding Ocellote, in this Alpha version of the game the white dragon would not be Oceiros. So if Ocelotte was part of the royal family, he wouldn't be the white dragons child.
Well, that's debatable. According to Lance, the cutscene with the white dragon and its child was one of the first things recorded for the game, preceding most of the other lore. And in the cutscene the dragon clearly calls the child Ocelotte. It's just that the the dragon wasn't known under the name of Oceiros yet.
@@kaymarciy No, The White Dragon was located in Gods Grave, a scrapped area and he would have been called Angel Dragon. Gundyr was called 'Old King Oceiros' back then. This indicates that Ocelotte was not intended to be part of the royal family but still the son of the Angel Dragon.
@@tomhaswell6283 Wasn't former Gundyr called simply "Old King" without the name Oceiros attached? Well, everything may be possible without the precise knowledge of when certain parts were scrapped and when other parts were written.
@@kaymarciy He was definitely called 'Old King Oceiros' at one point in development. Dataminers said that Oceiros' model was swapped later on and that this was all part of the same version. Of course I can't say how feasable this information is. But it's the only source of info regarding Alpha version changes that we have.
This is a great video but really throws me into confussion about how I feel about DS3. I still think it's a great game (and arguably my favorite DS game) but it's clear that the game and its narrative went through some huge changes. Just the idea of not making the two Princes fight the penultimate boss fight shifts my perspective in how they could have designed the first area. One of the big complaints by lots of fans (not me) was the linear nature of the game. But opening up the entire lotheric castle from the start, attach the Cemetery of Ash somehow physically to the castle and then instead of access the God Grave through the Princes boss fight do it via the consumed King's Garden (filled with Pus of Man, toxic area AND a Dark Gem all signifyng what might lie below). Suddenly you have a much more sprawling non-linear and vertical map design that's more similar to DS1. Also interestin how much bridges play an important role in DS3. They're everywhere. I even think Archdragon Peak looks like a bridge. In the Profaned Capital the route to Yhorm is at the end of a large bridge.
Everything always felt out of place at DS3 for me, I think there was a bigger narrative around black serpents, pus of man, Londor and the pilgrims but it got scrambled.
@@Blazemoth Exactly, everytime I finish it I feel as if something was missing. I hate how ds3 and ds2 never where able to fully fleshed out, they couldve been incredible beyond belief. Hopefully Elden Ring delivers.
,@@weed-leaf-smoking-a-blunt Feel like its the same as DS3 : Gameplay is great but there's quite a few things that are missing or don't make sense - The whole deal with Trina (theres lots of artifacts but the sleep mechanic is underused and the goddess itself is never mentioned by anyone or have relics in the world) , Alternate ending with Melina seems unfinished (don't want to spoil anything by mentioning specifics) , Latenna / Patches quests seem unfinished. - Just a few things off the top of my head. These are things that feel missing just by playing the game , who knows how much will be found with data mining. Somehow despite the mess at the end of DS1 (how unfinished lost Izalith is, etc ) It feels like the game with the most amount of lore and world building that actually made into the final game - or at least things that did make it in the game seem to make the most sense (among all the games)
This explains a lot. I have always felt like the transition into the Boreal Valley was really jarring - immediately after first going there I went straight back to Vordt's boss room to see if I could see ANY indication of where the Boreal Valley was (an Aurora Borealis or ANYTHING) but could never pinpoint a location where it might be. I swear whenever I listen to these cut content episodes on Dark Souls 3 I always find myself screaming "this would have been a better game!"
I do wonder why they made the changes. Whether it was simply that Miyazaki felt his story for DS3 (Aldrich and the Pontiff) wouldn't work as well with these other ideas. I'm not sure it would be better, just different. You can see Anor Londo and bits of Irithyll from Vordts boss room (it's beyond the Abyss Watchers boss room). It's not night time though. Why it's not the same could be argued at the original Anor Londo if you shoot Gwynevere and then return to Undead Burg and look up. It's inconstistent I guess.
@@Hoopla10 I think they tend to hastily remix things for the purpose of better pacing. Like they wanted the Boreal Valley to stand out from the rest of the game, and you've just been in an underground desert kingdom with a skeleton boss, you could have possibly gone to an underground fire desert kingdom, and it's just before another underground desert kingdom with Yhorm. So they would have made it snowy to make it stand out more, too much of the game would have been sandy ashy palacey things
@@ywnrnf6028 yes it is. There’s also a different cloud/haze texture to indicate the unnatural temperature from a land in perpetual night overplayed the rest of the clouds. It’s important to remember Aldritch only recently consumed Gwyndolin so the moon is still part of his magic.
@@Blazemoth i feel exactly the same! like theres so many areas and enemy that just feel like they belonged somewhere else. like how pontiff is the halfway boss and yet is so crushingly hard (with out phantoms). and how out of place carthus feels( its underneath a swamp... and a snowyland??) and how you have the rosaria grubs, and the angels in the ringed city and how they look so similar. hell they even shoot projectiles that explode into feathers just like the angels in the ringed city!
@@naven3002 Those aren’t Rosaria’s grubs those are called Grotesque Londor Growers. The reason they share an appearance is complex but it does make sense going off the lore.
@@Blazemoth You could say that about virtually any fromsoft title then from DS1 to BB. Since there’s always cut content and story changes are common in any form of developing media.
every single dark souls game has such interesting cut content, and without exception, it makes me depressed that it was cut. all the way from the land of giants, to this.
Oh guys. Just so you know the bonfire warp images are a little different than in game for some areas , an example being the profaned capitol one shows one of the unused skyboxes so it's possible that was the time of day change.
2:00 it seems to me that it's actually all of Lothric Castle/the High Wall that rose up, breaking the bridge. Some descriptions describe the High Wall as having "appeared".
Cool. The version of the game you're inferring from the cut content sounds like a better game than the commercial release, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing!
Sin said to comment on my favorite episode and this one is it so far. Jsf seems way more enthused to talk about what DS3 could have been than what is actually there. Pls no bully
Considering the Archdragon Peak level asset are labeled with "Bridge" as the level name does tie it in to being connected to the bridge. I think parts of it were possibly going to be Carthus. The kingdom itself, not just the catacombs
It would have been really nice to have more optional stuff in vanilla DS3, things that lead off the beaten path. Having an area that splintered off, away from Farron Swamp and into a completely new area through the bridge with the stone demon would've been a really cool side path.
If it's possible, someone transfer midir's animations to the archdragon peak dragon rig, then load that in midir's arena. I want to see the mother dragon move.
Sony: U can't kill babby. Miyazaki: Hold my beer. **INVISIBLE BABBY** Truly a genius of videogame design. But seriously, I love DS3, even if it is a malformed invisible baby-dragon hybrid of a game. Also, pataptatpa.
I'm gonna assume that the creatures in Irithyll Dungeon that looks like giant babies with vestigial wings were the unwanted offspring of the Dragon Angel.
Word , I love these kinda of cut content areas .. It kinda clears some things up and does the opposite for others .. The picture editing really helped too .. Definitely helps with knowing with Wth you guys are talking about .. lol Thanks as always for doing these for us .. Appreciate yah ..!
I feel like some of these changes were made because they were afraid the game was so reminiscent of Demon Souls that it could be a problem with Sony (hence the character that looks almost exactly like Old King Doran changed to a "non-king" tutorial boss).
I believe that before the world began to collide, the lower bridge has always been connecting Lothric with the Undead Settlement and from there was the normal road through the mountains to Irithyll and from Irithyll normal long road to Londor, there was also a second bridge from Vordt gatehouse that led from Lothric through the Gods Grave which was in the place of the Road of Sacrifice to the Cathedral of the Deep straight, to the Farron Keep to the right and down (so the keep was under both bridges), and to the Undead Settlement to the left. The Oceiros Garden was to the left of Lotric Castle (looking from the Firelink Shrine behind it) and led to the third bridge to the Archdragon peak where behind another bridge one of the ancient trees was.
It would make sense if it's the tomb of Manus or pygmy, since it's the final destination of the pilgrims of Londor. But it's some weird angel dragon occupying there who is supposed to be in Irithyll dungeon... Well, the pilgrims do finally become angels, or angel dragons / pilgrim butterflies.
Its a shame that this entire series is plagued by rushed development and a lot of cut content. I really wish we would get a proper remake sometime in the future for the entire trilogy, but that is almost impossible to happen.
Here are my thoughts after hearing this as to how the change happened, not that probably anyone cases... Original game before the changes in the final version was about the royal line trying to link the flame, with Lothric and Lorian not wanting to link the fire, Oceiros trying to have another child to fulfill the destiny, and the Queen fleeing it all. The Lords of Cinder would be kind of time shifty like going back to deal with Manus, only with three groups people who were consumed by flame to restart the cycle, but who didn't continue their line after, as what seems to be happening to the line of Ocerios, and the underlying theme of the whole thing is "Legacy and continuation" But at some point in the development, the theme changes from legacy to stagnation. To the question of if it was better to fight to keep doing a thing or better to blow it all up so something new can come. And this is when Sulyvahn was developed and assets were shifted. Sulyvahn has never experienced loss and is terrified and even outraged by the idea of destroying his entire world simply to make room for another. As a counter narrative to the Players goal of linking the Flame, his role was to stop each of the Lords from ending the age of fire, and instead attempting to hold everything in place, which leads to the theme of Stagnation. He exits the painting into Anor Londo, likely with Yorshka who Gwendolin believes to be his long lost sister/half sister/whatever the hell happened with all that Gwyn family drama...and Sully convinces him that linking the fire is now a bad thing, and becomes head of the Church thanks to a direct line to the last of the old Gods and his bringing a new "God" from the painted world (It is the Church of Yorshka after all) Yhorm is tricked into genocide, the Abyss Watchers have the subgroup designed to stop them from the loop they are stuck somehow end up trapped in Ariendel, and after Aldrich becomes the cannibal murderhobo child disposal of the church (likely eating the children of the undead for population control). But as things stagnate, they rot and decay. the Awakening bell throws a wrench into everything by bringing back the old Lords, Aldrich escape his tomb, likely flooding the church and poisoning the swamp on the way out, and made his way to Anor Londo to consume Gwyndolin, who hides Yorshka from him physically, but not in his dreams. When we arrive, Aldrich is trying to stop Aldrich, and perhaps rescue Gwyndolin, but also sees us as a threat to link the flame...which would also destroy his home... This would actually be a coherent story, with the theme being the battle between stagnation and destruction. Smoughtown did an interesting video recently about the Deep and Sumarian lore that also really connected all this for me...or I'm rambling, either way, great video. Thanks!
It's always interesting to hear some info about parts of the game that were cut. Makes me think that if the dev team would follow their original plan, then DaS3 wouldn't have all those huge plot holes. Like the mystery behind firelink set, for example.
This so damn awesome! They really need to release some dev tools so that modders can have a field day rebuilding cut content from all the Souls games. I hear modders have had some breakthroughs for nodding tools in DS1, so here's hoping for some big conversion mods
When you were saying that the twin princes are like 2/3 or half of the way through the game did you mean in the release version of the game or during the process where all these cuts were made? Because in the vanilla game Lorain and lothric are the literal second to last thing to do (assuming you did all the optional content before)
This was excellent, been months since I was so excited about one of your vids. Would be nice to have richie try making a connection from this cut content to the images that were leaked a year before release that showed a different ending. Also, is there anywhere I can get those images you guys posted about the cut content? Lance didnt tweet about these at all.
Okay, the references to Irithyll Dungeon (or at least, the location that would eventually be repurposed as Irithyll Dungeon) got me curious. I assume this is *before* the map layout got closer to how it is in the final game? I remember some comments about how Irithyll, at one point, would have been accessible from two different paths, one of which was the one from Irithyll Dungeon (which is why Big Boi Doggo attacks you there too), but that sounds incompatible with the layout of the map and overall story structure Richard is talking about on the podcast. I mean, it's pretty hard to come up with a definitive answer and sometimes even developers don't remember all of the nuances of the iterations projects go through, but I'm curious if there's any kind of consensus/opinion in the community of data miners about this. P.S. : I understand why JSF trusts the QA leak from 4chan, because a lot of that stuff lines up with datamined stuff, but I always thought the stuff about Kaathe bursting through the hole in Lothric Castle was suspicious as hell. I suppose it's possible a QA tester who also posts on 4chan would make up trolly bits on the assumption that people would expect it based on other correct information or that the event actually was planned and I'm suspicious over nothing.
I think the other entrance to irithyll would have been the broken stairs near the dungeon's entrance, which you can see from smouldering lake. Presumably you could have entered irithyll from the giant ballista's location.
This is one of my favorite videos you two have released but it makes me almost mad at From or whoever made them rush this out. Every time a discussion pops up around the cut content of a souls game those feelings come up, but with 3 it's the worst. It feels like all the cut content and everything pieced together about what the story was SUPPOSED to be would've been a much better ending for the souls series. We all know 3 was the end and there isn't more coming, so why on earth did they feel the need to cut so much and rush this out :( it's fuckin depressing.
Looking back on it with more info, it looks like the older version of the story was never really finished, it was just a series of notes / ideas about where they wanted to take it. The version of the story we ended up getting was, as far as we know, the only version that actually had a script, characters etc. properly finalised. Still not sure why they went in the direction they did, though.
there's just something about the original story for ds3 that is just so fascinating to me, i can't really explain why but i'm super desperate to know more about it. i just wish it was possible for us to at least see what they were going for in a finished state
"Dark Souls 1 & 2 are wrong" Whew lad, keeping spicy takes alive and served hot directly to millions. 😂 These videos are outstanding guys - thank you sincerely for sharing these sessions.
@@SinclairLore Very much so. Are TH-cam comments the best place to offer additional speculation/ideas for discussion? Definitely might have some interesting questions/points after I have a chance to process the info here. I'd be happy to send an email or post elsewhere depending on what's convenient for you guys.
@@HailThanagor people usually talk about that stuff on the discord :) feel free to join, a lotta chill ppl there (the link is in description if ur interested)
I can't find this half-disappered bridge from 3:14 . I tried to look from the beginning of the High Wall but the bridge look normal. Was that fixed? Do I look from a wrong place?
For some reason hearing what DS3 could have been aggravates me a lot more than hearing what DS2 could have been. I enjoyed DS2 a lot more, but there's something about DS3 that sounds so much more like wasted potential to me. Maybe because DS2 changed directions mid-way and was formed into a different story than what they initially started. But DS3 sounds like it was chopped up and reassembled with very little story change just because they got cold feet about ending the series for good. (Or were told they couldn't)
Something that really confuses me about all of this cut content and reshuffling is the game just really confuses me. Seems like the prior versions of the game where better and made more sense? I mean it’s almost as if they had a relatively sensical story so From just went “oh shit! Shuffle the deck!” The game has to be convoluted!! I’m starting to think that from and the director (Miyazaki? I’m bad with names) just don’t make great stories.
I think they ran into a fairly big issue during development. Something like gameplay and story not flowing together well, or the concepts being too much work. Elden Ring is in collaboration with G. R. R. Martin though, so maybe you're right
Miyazaki returned to the Dark Souls III team in March 2015 as lead director when the game was already 2 years in development according to an interview from June 2015. A bunch of this stuff was scrapped before he even he joined. Tomohiro Shibuya and Yui Tanimura handled the project until Miyazaki hopped back in after Bloodborne. Miyazaki also stated the Bloodborne team and DaS 3 teams were different. It’s extremely likely that once he joined in, at the final year, he didn’t like the direction of the game and decided to change course.
Another character who could have collected a large portion of the dark soul, and (presuming they took the "let the fire fade" ending) would be a very important figure is the player character from the first game; a.k.a the "lord of dark."
So you would prefer some over the top fake rather than 2 adults having a conversation about the topic? I mean the most popular soulsborne personality (vaarti) is the lowest energy person on TH-cam but I don't see you complaining about him.
Richie is in Australia, and I'm in Cananda. To make this podcast happen, I had to wake up at 5 am, record for 90 minutes, and then go to work XD I don't know too many people full of energy under these circumstances. But.. I have good news for you! The other episodes are way over energetic! (Unless you listen to the ones recorded at 5 am, there's more than one, due to the timezones and all lol)
OMG, I probably should have stopped listening to this ages ago.It sounds like you are just amking stuff up based on removed data. To your credit some of it makes sense but largely this is all based on theory. And to be honest dark souls the original game is by far the best. A game for proper players. No tleeporting or more than 5 flasks for AGES!
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The REAL story of dark souls is Miyazaki slowly getting closer to killing a baby onscreen.
Can't wait for a Cursed Baby enemy in Elden ring or Drowned Child of a Lake.
You can kill babies in the original demons souls, I think the maiden astraea area has some.
Getting even closer with Miquella in elden ring...
So if Anor Londo was originally in a desert, that makes Carthus, the Sandworm in Smoldering lake and the Profaned Capital far more thematically consistent. Because in the game as released, you have all this eastern/Mediterranean theming next to a snowy tundra map.
true!
*Anor Londo + Carthus = Loran*
It all makes sense now!
It would also make sense with the art for Dark Souls 3. The image of the Soul of Cinder looks like it features Anor Londo behind him, in a vast sandy wasteland. It makes sense to me that this was an idea that was scrapped in development.
Yes and Archdragon peak was originally supposed to be part of Carthus and all snakemen there just happen to wear robes that one would wear in a desert.
I think the original desert setting would have been far more interesting. All lands would have had to adapt to it in the game.
@@Jonas-ob2sh i think they made irithyll snowy in the first place to make the game a little less dry and muted than it already is. imagine how much more samey the game would be if it was all desert themed
You probably fought the nameless king at the end of desert anor londo.
His clothes match, his family has history there etc.
"Daughters of Ash" style Mod for Dark Souls 3 that restores the Dragon Mother/Angel of Dragons content, logical geographic progression, Gods Grave, and the Anor Londo ending. Make it happen, somebody.
there is a map editor in the works so this might actually happen
@@riccardobenzoni8188 Seriously, seeing Dark Souls 3 being restored to that vision would be awesome. As someone else said below, wouldn't be surprised if Namco put the brakes on an overly "definitive" ending...
Also get rid of warping and add shortcuts.
I would honestly prefer it if DS2 got that treatment first, but I would in no way object to DS3 getting it.
Both games had so much more ambition and potential than was ever fully realised.
Also: please don't entirely remove warping, walking all the way from Anor Londo to Firelink is NOT fun or challenging, it's just fucking tedious. More shortcuts, definitely, and a more interconnected map with fewer bonfires, but leave warping in. It saves so much time just trudging back through areas to go to vendors or farm earlier items
@@MonteScarf Honestly, I'd be down for either, too. 2 actually has some great narrative bits about hollowing and the state of amnesia that the world develops as a result. I don't know if 3's issues stemmed from too many options/indecisiveness or pushback in terms of finality.
One thing that boggles my mind about 3 is when you see the original leaked screenshots, they had such a great DARK fantasy atmosphere. The washed out lighting and yellow tones of the final release don't look anywhere near as atmospheric as that early build, in my opinion.
So, basically, the DLC are a mashup of all the cut content. Like the Wolf ending in the Painting and the Ringed City being a mix between the Grave of the Gods and what would have happened in Irithyll. I feel like the Ringed City makes more sense now... Like the developpers had ideas in mind they didn't put in the game, so we have no clue they are here, but they still consider them. That's why the game make little sense.
Also, the Yuria line "and now the Gods are no more" seems interesting now we know there were supposed to be a Grave of Gods.
Miyazaki: This games gonna have an area full of aborted babies.
Miyazaki: and this one's gonna have baby skeletons!
Miyazaki's boss: chill
Miyazaki: ok THIS ones gonna have an invisible baby (quietly) that you indirectly murder and the Mom thanks you
Miyazaki: And here we have a baby that gets smashed up during a fight and you hear everything
D-does Miyazaki have children? Are they ok?
o_O
XD
>Miyazaki's boss
Miyazaki: Don't worry! All these babies were Hitler and according to Twitter, kill a baby if it is Hitler is okay
But Miyazaki is the boss.
This is awesome. As Rich stated: it's the Northern Limits all over again. Things like this in games - such grand, out of reach, half-knowable cuts - are valuable despite their direct situation.They can really get the curiosity flowing. I'm almost glad such things happen during video game development.
I'd like to correct you on epitaphs. They translate as:
"Man who sought the royal throne, here he lies. Blood did not acknowledge him." (王座を求めた男、ここに眠る。血が彼を認めることなかった)
"Take the blood. In order to help the declined royal family" (血を受け入れよ。滅びゆくの王家の助けとならんが為に)
There's another epitaph in Irithyll which says:
"Hail the Dragon. Those who desire for the way to the King must not collapse halfway." (竜を讃えよ。王への道を欲すならば道半ばで倒れることなかれ)
It now makes a lot more sense if you had to come there in order to find a way to Twin Princes and/or Oceiros. Although I was sure this is a reference to Thrones of Lords of Cinder. I wonder if Wolnyr/Yhorm had an artifact (basin?) among his pile of treasures which you'd need to plunder.
And it makes A LOT of sense that pilgrims would be looking for something called God's Grave. Especially if it's Londor pilgrims looking for Manus' grave. HOWEVER! The epitaph in the Undead settlement tells: "obsession towards climbing the High Wall. Will pilgrims' souls reach beyond it after sacrificing their lives?" which makes me think: were they coming to God's Grave to transform into angels (Oceiros as an angel, huh?) or butterfly or maybe into those dragons Lance shown us and fly high towards Lothric Castle?
29:20 Well, the Divine Blessing description says that Queen of Lothric gave birth to Ocellote, so he most probably was his actual kid.
Regarding the Boreal Valley. Does it say anywhere that the falling particles ares snow? The valley is Frigid, it is Boreal, but not snowy. There's no Sun to bring warmth, so it's frozen. I think that it's the actual ash that [made] look whitish, because of the unique lighting of the place. Because I must admit it looks cool.
PS: this video has been up for 1.5 months? I feel myself a Gundyr Belated.
Regarding Ocellote, in this Alpha version of the game the white dragon would not be Oceiros. So if Ocelotte was part of the royal family, he wouldn't be the white dragons child.
Well, that's debatable. According to Lance, the cutscene with the white dragon and its child was one of the first things recorded for the game, preceding most of the other lore. And in the cutscene the dragon clearly calls the child Ocelotte. It's just that the the dragon wasn't known under the name of Oceiros yet.
@@kaymarciy No, The White Dragon was located in Gods Grave, a scrapped area and he would have been called Angel Dragon. Gundyr was called 'Old King Oceiros' back then. This indicates that Ocelotte was not intended to be part of the royal family but still the son of the Angel Dragon.
@@tomhaswell6283 Wasn't former Gundyr called simply "Old King" without the name Oceiros attached? Well, everything may be possible without the precise knowledge of when certain parts were scrapped and when other parts were written.
@@kaymarciy He was definitely called 'Old King Oceiros' at one point in development. Dataminers said that Oceiros' model was swapped later on and that this was all part of the same version. Of course I can't say how feasable this information is. But it's the only source of info regarding Alpha version changes that we have.
This is a great video but really throws me into confussion about how I feel about DS3. I still think it's a great game (and arguably my favorite DS game) but it's clear that the game and its narrative went through some huge changes.
Just the idea of not making the two Princes fight the penultimate boss fight shifts my perspective in how they could have designed the first area. One of the big complaints by lots of fans (not me) was the linear nature of the game. But opening up the entire lotheric castle from the start, attach the Cemetery of Ash somehow physically to the castle and then instead of access the God Grave through the Princes boss fight do it via the consumed King's Garden (filled with Pus of Man, toxic area AND a Dark Gem all signifyng what might lie below). Suddenly you have a much more sprawling non-linear and vertical map design that's more similar to DS1.
Also interestin how much bridges play an important role in DS3. They're everywhere. I even think Archdragon Peak looks like a bridge. In the Profaned Capital the route to Yhorm is at the end of a large bridge.
Maybe it's all one bridge that got cut up XD
Everything always felt out of place at DS3 for me, I think there was a bigger narrative around black serpents, pus of man, Londor and the pilgrims but it got scrambled.
@@Blazemoth Exactly, everytime I finish it I feel as if something was missing. I hate how ds3 and ds2 never where able to fully fleshed out, they couldve been incredible beyond belief. Hopefully Elden Ring delivers.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 and Elden Ring did deliver
,@@weed-leaf-smoking-a-blunt Feel like its the same as DS3 : Gameplay is great but there's quite a few things that are missing or don't make sense - The whole deal with Trina (theres lots of artifacts but the sleep mechanic is underused and the goddess itself is never mentioned by anyone or have relics in the world) , Alternate ending with Melina seems unfinished (don't want to spoil anything by mentioning specifics) , Latenna / Patches quests seem unfinished. - Just a few things off the top of my head. These are things that feel missing just by playing the game , who knows how much will be found with data mining. Somehow despite the mess at the end of DS1 (how unfinished lost Izalith is, etc ) It feels like the game with the most amount of lore and world building that actually made into the final game - or at least things that did make it in the game seem to make the most sense (among all the games)
This explains a lot.
I have always felt like the transition into the Boreal Valley was really jarring - immediately after first going there I went straight back to Vordt's boss room to see if I could see ANY indication of where the Boreal Valley was (an Aurora Borealis or ANYTHING) but could never pinpoint a location where it might be.
I swear whenever I listen to these cut content episodes on Dark Souls 3 I always find myself screaming "this would have been a better game!"
I do wonder why they made the changes. Whether it was simply that Miyazaki felt his story for DS3 (Aldrich and the Pontiff) wouldn't work as well with these other ideas. I'm not sure it would be better, just different.
You can see Anor Londo and bits of Irithyll from Vordts boss room (it's beyond the Abyss Watchers boss room). It's not night time though. Why it's not the same could be argued at the original Anor Londo if you shoot Gwynevere and then return to Undead Burg and look up. It's inconstistent I guess.
"this would have been a better game!" yeah, same here
@@Hoopla10 I think they tend to hastily remix things for the purpose of better pacing.
Like they wanted the Boreal Valley to stand out from the rest of the game, and you've just been in an underground desert kingdom with a skeleton boss, you could have possibly gone to an underground fire desert kingdom, and it's just before another underground desert kingdom with Yhorm.
So they would have made it snowy to make it stand out more, too much of the game would have been sandy ashy palacey things
Its visible from the end of Vordt’s boss room I’m pretty sure.
@@ywnrnf6028 yes it is. There’s also a different cloud/haze texture to indicate the unnatural temperature from a land in perpetual night overplayed the rest of the clouds. It’s important to remember Aldritch only recently consumed Gwyndolin so the moon is still part of his magic.
I swear literally everything they cut from DS3 sounds more coherent and more interesting then what we actually got which is a shame
Makes the actual game feel like a lot of assets hastily put together with a made up story unrelated to the initial project.
@@Blazemoth i feel exactly the same! like theres so many areas and enemy that just feel like they belonged somewhere else. like how pontiff is the halfway boss and yet is so crushingly hard (with out phantoms). and how out of place carthus feels( its underneath a swamp... and a snowyland??) and how you have the rosaria grubs, and the angels in the ringed city and how they look so similar. hell they even shoot projectiles that explode into feathers just like the angels in the ringed city!
unless the scrapped stuff can be reconstructed for elden ring
@@naven3002 Those aren’t Rosaria’s grubs those are called Grotesque Londor Growers. The reason they share an appearance is complex but it does make sense going off the lore.
@@Blazemoth You could say that about virtually any fromsoft title then from DS1 to BB. Since there’s always cut content and story changes are common in any form of developing media.
every single dark souls game has such interesting cut content, and without exception, it makes me depressed that it was cut. all the way from the land of giants, to this.
Oh guys. Just so you know the bonfire warp images are a little different than in game for some areas , an example being the profaned capitol one shows one of the unused skyboxes so it's possible that was the time of day change.
2:00 it seems to me that it's actually all of Lothric Castle/the High Wall that rose up, breaking the bridge. Some descriptions describe the High Wall as having "appeared".
Dark Souls 3 exists to do what Bloodborne never could: kill a baby.
It's the best of the series.
That's kinda true, But you can kill Arianna's "baby" below Oedon Chapel. All the other babies are sadly no longer among us.
Rin- Joh you eat babies in Bloodborne.
orphan of kos
You literally kill a Benjamin Button baby in the DLC
Cool.
The version of the game you're inferring from the cut content sounds like a better game than the commercial release, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing!
I guess that explains why there was a chunk of textures missing in areas like Arch Dragon Peak and Wolnir’s Boss Room
Sin said to comment on my favorite episode and this one is it so far. Jsf seems way more enthused to talk about what DS3 could have been than what is actually there. Pls no bully
Ok I try
Considering the Archdragon Peak level asset are labeled with "Bridge" as the level name does tie it in to being connected to the bridge.
I think parts of it were possibly going to be Carthus. The kingdom itself, not just the catacombs
It would have been really nice to have more optional stuff in vanilla DS3, things that lead off the beaten path. Having an area that splintered off, away from Farron Swamp and into a completely new area through the bridge with the stone demon would've been a really cool side path.
If it's possible, someone transfer midir's animations to the archdragon peak dragon rig, then load that in midir's arena.
I want to see the mother dragon move.
I feel like this new information introduces a lot of unanswered questions about Yhorm and Yorshka. Time for another podcast Richie :)
Those "failed dragons" in this version wouldn't be failed attempts to become dragons, they would be failed children of dragons.
Gee no wonder DS3 was so screwed up. All of its story elements got shuffled several times.
Sony: U can't kill babby.
Miyazaki: Hold my beer.
**INVISIBLE BABBY**
Truly a genius of videogame design. But seriously, I love DS3, even if it is a malformed invisible baby-dragon hybrid of a game.
Also, pataptatpa.
I'm gonna assume that the creatures in Irithyll Dungeon that looks like giant babies with vestigial wings were the unwanted offspring of the Dragon Angel.
Admission of Blood could refer to the fact that he sought the throne but wasn't of royal bloodline.
Word , I love these kinda of cut content areas ..
It kinda clears some things up and does the opposite for others ..
The picture editing really helped too ..
Definitely helps with knowing with Wth you guys are talking about ..
lol
Thanks as always for doing these for us ..
Appreciate yah ..!
:)
Here b4 its 2040 and we all have vr suits and there is a remake of dark souls 3 that includes this
When you think about it, a step ladder is kinda a pygmy staircase.
I feel like some of these changes were made because they were afraid the game was so reminiscent of Demon Souls that it could be a problem with Sony (hence the character that looks almost exactly like Old King Doran changed to a "non-king" tutorial boss).
This was great to listen to while farming echoes for Chalice Dungeon Materials on Bloodborne
I believe that before the world began to collide, the lower bridge has always been connecting Lothric with the Undead Settlement and from there was the normal road through the mountains to Irithyll and from Irithyll normal long road to Londor, there was also a second bridge from Vordt gatehouse that led from Lothric through the Gods Grave which was in the place of the Road of Sacrifice to the Cathedral of the Deep straight, to the Farron Keep to the right and down (so the keep was under both bridges), and to the Undead Settlement to the left. The Oceiros Garden was to the left of Lotric Castle (looking from the Firelink Shrine behind it) and led to the third bridge to the Archdragon peak where behind another bridge one of the ancient trees was.
52:00 Sounds like what Father Ariamas was doing in the DLC.
It would make sense if it's the tomb of Manus or pygmy, since it's the final destination of the pilgrims of Londor. But it's some weird angel dragon occupying there who is supposed to be in Irithyll dungeon... Well, the pilgrims do finally become angels, or angel dragons / pilgrim butterflies.
Man I am genuinely addicted to this podcast. Maybe just thirsty for jsf content but its always fun.
Okay but did you see the "it can't be helped" content??
Perhaps you originally entered gods grave from the untended graves entrance, after completing consumed kings garden?
It safe to say that cut content of ds3 is canon.
Because I would believe that this is the angel that Gertrude saw for the angelic faith.
cut content don't count as canon.
Its a shame that this entire series is plagued by rushed development and a lot of cut content. I really wish we would get a proper remake sometime in the future for the entire trilogy, but that is almost impossible to happen.
43:45 You can still hear the intense dislike of Yorshka from JSF
Some scars never heal....
Yeah, for both of her lol
Well...I was gonna get some rest for my exams tomorrow.......but I’ve already gone hollow from these podcasts so why not XD
Get rest!
Here are my thoughts after hearing this as to how the change happened, not that probably anyone cases...
Original game before the changes in the final version was about the royal line trying to link the flame, with Lothric and Lorian not wanting to link the fire, Oceiros trying to have another child to fulfill the destiny, and the Queen fleeing it all. The Lords of Cinder would be kind of time shifty like going back to deal with Manus, only with three groups people who were consumed by flame to restart the cycle, but who didn't continue their line after, as what seems to be happening to the line of Ocerios, and the underlying theme of the whole thing is "Legacy and continuation"
But at some point in the development, the theme changes from legacy to stagnation. To the question of if it was better to fight to keep doing a thing or better to blow it all up so something new can come.
And this is when Sulyvahn was developed and assets were shifted. Sulyvahn has never experienced loss and is terrified and even outraged by the idea of destroying his entire world simply to make room for another. As a counter narrative to the Players goal of linking the Flame, his role was to stop each of the Lords from ending the age of fire, and instead attempting to hold everything in place, which leads to the theme of Stagnation. He exits the painting into Anor Londo, likely with Yorshka who Gwendolin believes to be his long lost sister/half sister/whatever the hell happened with all that Gwyn family drama...and Sully convinces him that linking the fire is now a bad thing, and becomes head of the Church thanks to a direct line to the last of the old Gods and his bringing a new "God" from the painted world (It is the Church of Yorshka after all)
Yhorm is tricked into genocide, the Abyss Watchers have the subgroup designed to stop them from the loop they are stuck somehow end up trapped in Ariendel, and after Aldrich becomes the cannibal murderhobo child disposal of the church (likely eating the children of the undead for population control).
But as things stagnate, they rot and decay. the Awakening bell throws a wrench into everything by bringing back the old Lords, Aldrich escape his tomb, likely flooding the church and poisoning the swamp on the way out, and made his way to Anor Londo to consume Gwyndolin, who hides Yorshka from him physically, but not in his dreams.
When we arrive, Aldrich is trying to stop Aldrich, and perhaps rescue Gwyndolin, but also sees us as a threat to link the flame...which would also destroy his home...
This would actually be a coherent story, with the theme being the battle between stagnation and destruction. Smoughtown did an interesting video recently about the Deep and Sumarian lore that also really connected all this for me...or I'm rambling, either way, great video. Thanks!
It's always interesting to hear some info about parts of the game that were cut.
Makes me think that if the dev team would follow their original plan, then DaS3 wouldn't have all those huge plot holes. Like the mystery behind firelink set, for example.
Firekeeper should of taught everyone how to see without seeing in bird box.
Maybe you had to drink from what would became Wolnir's Chalice to make your blood worthy and proceed in the game?
This is actually a really interesting and informative video. Have you guys finally become professional podcasters?
What do you mean "finally becoming"?? ಠ_ರೃ
@@SinclairLore WILL YOU GUYS MARRY OR SMTH SOON ALREADY? HOW MANY BABIES? VISIBLE ONES?
@@MEUAR no, it they will be invisible and Richy will smash them all into the floor during a podcast
Mixed feelings on this one: 10/10 for information and assessment, but 2/10 for psychological abuse of Richie. I need both in my life. I need balance.
Doesn't the statue after the dancer slit its throat and bleed into the bowl to drop the ladder? Might be connected to the blood?
This so damn awesome! They really need to release some dev tools so that modders can have a field day rebuilding cut content from all the Souls games. I hear modders have had some breakthroughs for nodding tools in DS1, so here's hoping for some big conversion mods
Let's not forget about in Demon's Souls were the player can repeatedly kill all those babies at the end of Valley of Defilement.
miyazaki was probably the one who changed and deleted most of this stuff after becoming president of fromsoftware
Weaaaau! Richie got outta the basement! Praise the Sin!
When you were saying that the twin princes are like 2/3 or half of the way through the game did you mean in the release version of the game or during the process where all these cuts were made? Because in the vanilla game Lorain and lothric are the literal second to last thing to do (assuming you did all the optional content before)
He meant earlier in development, back when the structure of the game wasn't finalized yet.
This was excellent, been months since I was so excited about one of your vids.
Would be nice to have richie try making a connection from this cut content to the images that were leaked a year before release that showed a different ending.
Also, is there anywhere I can get those images you guys posted about the cut content? Lance didnt tweet about these at all.
Yeah it's super exclusive content from Lance cause he luves us
Interesting that the graves and pot have that hole in them. Very DS2 giant style.
Okay, the references to Irithyll Dungeon (or at least, the location that would eventually be repurposed as Irithyll Dungeon) got me curious. I assume this is *before* the map layout got closer to how it is in the final game? I remember some comments about how Irithyll, at one point, would have been accessible from two different paths, one of which was the one from Irithyll Dungeon (which is why Big Boi Doggo attacks you there too), but that sounds incompatible with the layout of the map and overall story structure Richard is talking about on the podcast.
I mean, it's pretty hard to come up with a definitive answer and sometimes even developers don't remember all of the nuances of the iterations projects go through, but I'm curious if there's any kind of consensus/opinion in the community of data miners about this.
P.S. : I understand why JSF trusts the QA leak from 4chan, because a lot of that stuff lines up with datamined stuff, but I always thought the stuff about Kaathe bursting through the hole in Lothric Castle was suspicious as hell. I suppose it's possible a QA tester who also posts on 4chan would make up trolly bits on the assumption that people would expect it based on other correct information or that the event actually was planned and I'm suspicious over nothing.
I think the other entrance to irithyll would have been the broken stairs near the dungeon's entrance, which you can see from smouldering lake. Presumably you could have entered irithyll from the giant ballista's location.
Awesome podcast I learned a lot :)
Best way to start a day! (Other than coffee, of course lol)
awww :)
All this talk of sand and no Anakin Skywalker reference? And all this talk of ladders and no Laddersmith Gilligan?
XD we're losing our edge!
This is one of my favorite videos you two have released but it makes me almost mad at From or whoever made them rush this out. Every time a discussion pops up around the cut content of a souls game those feelings come up, but with 3 it's the worst. It feels like all the cut content and everything pieced together about what the story was SUPPOSED to be would've been a much better ending for the souls series.
We all know 3 was the end and there isn't more coming, so why on earth did they feel the need to cut so much and rush this out :( it's fuckin depressing.
Looking back on it with more info, it looks like the older version of the story was never really finished, it was just a series of notes / ideas about where they wanted to take it. The version of the story we ended up getting was, as far as we know, the only version that actually had a script, characters etc. properly finalised. Still not sure why they went in the direction they did, though.
@@SinclairLore forgot to say I love the channel and all the work you and Soph do :)
there's just something about the original story for ds3 that is just so fascinating to me, i can't really explain why but i'm super desperate to know more about it. i just wish it was possible for us to at least see what they were going for in a finished state
Imagine loading up the OG version of Nameless King but then he smashes a baby instead of a drake. What a shame the world will never know.
I wonder why this video has been delisted, are the information in this no longer accurate ?
A lot of our older episodes get unlisted and put on patreon :) we plan to remake this one
You probably had to consume it to pass some kind of barrier or boss fog
Why am I thinking of the Cleopatra boss fight in Dante’s inferno when I hear Mother Dragon
"Dark Souls 1 & 2 are wrong"
Whew lad, keeping spicy takes alive and served hot directly to millions. 😂
These videos are outstanding guys - thank you sincerely for sharing these sessions.
Glad you enjoy them!
@@SinclairLore Very much so. Are TH-cam comments the best place to offer additional speculation/ideas for discussion? Definitely might have some interesting questions/points after I have a chance to process the info here. I'd be happy to send an email or post elsewhere depending on what's convenient for you guys.
@@HailThanagor people usually talk about that stuff on the discord :) feel free to join, a lotta chill ppl there (the link is in description if ur interested)
It seems that Ringed city is repurposed version of Gods grave.
I can't find this half-disappered bridge from 3:14 . I tried to look from the beginning of the High Wall but the bridge look normal. Was that fixed? Do I look from a wrong place?
It's like, you know where there's a bunch of hollows, and one of them turns into the pus of man? I think it's there, on the left.
Thanks!
The god grave, maybe it could have been the chosen undead from dark souls 1 that choose the dark ending???
For some reason hearing what DS3 could have been aggravates me a lot more than hearing what DS2 could have been. I enjoyed DS2 a lot more, but there's something about DS3 that sounds so much more like wasted potential to me.
Maybe because DS2 changed directions mid-way and was formed into a different story than what they initially started. But DS3 sounds like it was chopped up and reassembled with very little story change just because they got cold feet about ending the series for good. (Or were told they couldn't)
Something that really confuses me about all of this cut content and reshuffling is the game just really confuses me. Seems like the prior versions of the game where better and made more sense? I mean it’s almost as if they had a relatively sensical story so From just went “oh shit! Shuffle the deck!” The game has to be convoluted!!
I’m starting to think that from and the director (Miyazaki? I’m bad with names) just don’t make great stories.
And now we know why every lore explanation is false and misinterpretations of a broken game...
I think they ran into a fairly big issue during development. Something like gameplay and story not flowing together well, or the concepts being too much work.
Elden Ring is in collaboration with G. R. R. Martin though, so maybe you're right
Bloodborne, sekiro and dark souls 1 have fairly consistent stories imo
Miyazaki returned to the Dark Souls III team in March 2015 as lead director when the game was already 2 years in development according to an interview from June 2015. A bunch of this stuff was scrapped before he even he joined.
Tomohiro Shibuya and Yui Tanimura handled the project until Miyazaki hopped back in after Bloodborne. Miyazaki also stated the Bloodborne team and DaS 3 teams were different.
It’s extremely likely that once he joined in, at the final year, he didn’t like the direction of the game and decided to change course.
All this information is very interesting, i know of lances channel but is there any other places i can go to read about early ds3 content? Thanks
Sanadsk is one. We also have some podcasts with Sana and lokey and jsf about cut content of bb and ds
I was inside the God's Grave
I knew it
End game would have been anor londo? Fucking coool
The grave looks like a hairy....
50:16 Grumpy Richie
Another character who could have collected a large portion of the dark soul, and (presuming they took the "let the fire fade" ending) would be a very important figure is the player character from the first game; a.k.a the "lord of dark."
What , indeed , about the lordvessel.
I thought it was because Lothric was raised up ?
I wonder if any of this got into Elden Ring
There are several of those giant gravestones in the Capital Outskirts.
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I came as quick as I could
Is the snack covenant over likenthe podcast ive been listening to on google music. Or are yall just on youtube. Just wondering
yeah, the google music is behind. The youtube is more up to date and has extra content:)
@@SinclairLore awwww, but okie good to know😁
This is way enemy positioning and lore makes no sense, I feel scammed, would've loved to play the original plot.
Ds3 is my favorite souls game.
43:07: Someone other than Manus, Artorias and Kaathe who is into the dark soul... How about Velka?
That's not a staircase, it's a Leeeegghhrhhhdurrr.
Tee hee
Sooooo when are you guys gunna do some hollow knight lore???
XD when we got time!
I know lance but who is santa?
SanaDSK
DAMN
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Jsf sounds so tired from carrying this podcast lol. What's the deal with this host?
Those long pauses she has stick out a lot.
What do Russians call elevators? Just curious now.
"лифт, pronounced "lift"
Совершенно не ожидал услышать русский в этом видео..
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The girl is low energy and just tries to be funny, really ruined this for me.
leave plz
@@valerian9012 or what?
So you would prefer some over the top fake rather than 2 adults having a conversation about the topic? I mean the most popular soulsborne personality (vaarti) is the lowest energy person on TH-cam but I don't see you complaining about him.
Richie is in Australia, and I'm in Cananda. To make this podcast happen, I had to wake up at 5 am, record for 90 minutes, and then go to work XD I don't know too many people full of energy under these circumstances. But.. I have good news for you! The other episodes are way over energetic! (Unless you listen to the ones recorded at 5 am, there's more than one, due to the timezones and all lol)
@@SinclairLore Just a bit of criticism, sorry if it was a bit harsh. Thanks for being mature and adult about it. All the best.
I know I'm 4 months late to this vid but please for the love of God stop saying "like" every 4th word
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It just sounds like Dark Souls 3 was a total rip off from Bloodborne.
OMG, I probably should have stopped listening to this ages ago.It sounds like you are just amking stuff up based on removed data. To your credit some of it makes sense but largely this is all based on theory. And to be honest dark souls the original game is by far the best. A game for proper players. No tleeporting or more than 5 flasks for AGES!
Making stuff up based on data... that is how dark souls lore is made