@Armagedd0nn ? These types of videos give a different perspective. I think people should watch them to understand and apply some of the knowledge in their life. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and orwhat he said 🤷♂️
Is that so the so called enlightened ppl have no problem destroying lives or killing millions of ppl,because they are of higher nature and the rest of humans are of lower nature,rats or herd that have to be guided.
perhaps the most important point peterson has made clear. thoughts (limitations) are maps of the territory of truth (unlimited) they are not the territory itself. maps don’t update on their own to a constantly changing environment however. hence the ability of our consciousness to feel emotion, sensation (smell,taste,sight,sound,touch) & observe thought (awareness) these of which we can learn to harmonize in order to overcome the limitation of our perceptions of what is (truth)
ur right and I think the innate desire or things that cannot be translated into thoughts, manifests itself in real world through the ego, kind of like an unconscious action I guess? But yea the truth is not defined. I am reminded from a sanskrit sloka, that the truth(unlimited) is something that you cannot quantify, the exact phrase is "not this, not this", the moment you attach something to it, it becomes limited to it like the ego, fascinating, Jordan got so close to defining it, but yet he cannot, fascinating.
Imagine: You're a psych student at University of Toronto. It's the first day of class. Jordan Peterson beelines into the class room, places his stuff on his desk in one quick motion, then immediately - 00:00
I like that when he’s talking about being on the computer screen in the beginning he’s not making it about the younger generation and even makes a joke about people on pension which is typically older people
You know, sometimes I'm in sync with this guy and sometimes I'm not . . . and sometimes I have no idea what he's talking about, and I'm not sure if it's my fault or his . . . but he is ALWAYS fascinating to listen to. He is, in that way, like a truly funny stand up comedian. Such a comedian doesn't rely on one-liners, he is just inherently funny no matter what he's saying. While Peterson is seldom funny, he is always interesting, inherently. He has a gift.
Free of overwhelming emotion, not pain free. Some people enjoy pain, some people enjoy adrenaline rushes, some people even enjoy the challenge of stress. I doubt many people enjoy being overwhelmed by emotions and doing something they later regret unless they have some serious mental health issue.
My guess is, before the word "therapist" existed, there was one word for ego, and it was 'I,' as in "'I' perceive that 'I' am wise enough to give others counsel, and that 'I' am so wise, 'I' don't need any counsel!"
In the context of Freudian psychoanalysis , the epigenetic conscious working model of id and ego can be described by two dominating feature of id and ego. Id is the affect part of a persons identity . id or the affects are dominated by value based emotions .the id is filled with obsessions and natural tendency of psyche to empirically function in accordance to similarity seeking thus is basically empirical or aligned with empiricism. Ego is the rational part of a persons identity . ego or rationales are dominated by logic based opinions. The ego is filled with doubtings and natural tendency of psyche to rationally function in accordance to difference seeking thus is basically rational or aligned with rationalism. A superego or virtuous personality which grounds its mentality based value-based function of id , prefer to moralize and direct its thoughts and behaviors in accordance to internal ethics. A superego or virtuous personality which grounds its mentality based logic-based function of ego , prefer to reason and direct its thoughts and behaviors in accordance to internal reason. Speaking of psychotherapy , since structuralism is a conscious working model reaching from value to rationality , that is to say reaching from id to ego , thus a person who can emphasize on how its values and thus emotions form its thoughts and reasons is using structuralism as a psycho-therapy. Speaking of psychoanalysis , since constructivism is a conscious working model reaching from rationality to value , that is to say reaching from ego to id , thus a person who can emphasize on how its thoughts and thus reasons form its values and emotions is using constructivism as a psycho-therapy. In practice , the structural psychotherapy is a diagnosis approach. In practice , the constructivist psychotherapy is a curing approach.
It's wrong to say that the brain is all over your body, there are obvious anatomical classifications that clearly determine what is considered a brain. Also, the autonomic nervous system doesn't have more neurons than the CNS, nowhere near as much and even those that is does have are very dependent on the neurons in the rest of the CNS.
True, my estimation is that Jordan Peterson alludes to a more conceptual definition of mind according to Dr. Dan Siegel for example, instead of the strictly biological definition of brain. Meaning that (for example) thoughts and emotions are not purely conceived of in the brain itself but is intricately linked with the nervous system, visual and auditory interactions with other people, etc.
@@thefunkybassistnl But the brain sends the message to cns. So cns relies on the brain to act out and decide what is bound to be. We are nothing without our brain and heart remember that. Brain controls the whole body,our BRAIN is our MIND and everything manifesting in it. We are our brains basically, let me rephrase that "our brain is us"
ego is the one that is responsible for manifesting ur innate desires which either is by id or the superego, but the id and superego is a simplification, I think it's part of a whole chaos, the ego is the one that guides you and makes you you I guess, fascinating
Detect right fruit. But it would be nice to be able to not be overwhelmed by receiving too much information. - mind is not separated from the body. Thought is not abstract from the body. Enlightment: reason shouldn't be contaminated with subjectivity, emotion and motivation. Emotion and reason as enemies. Froid somewhat agreement: the drive is the 'Id', and it has to be repressed or approved by the ego in the service of the superego. Maybe because their patients didn't intengrate their drive with their reason (?) But if thought is not separeted of body, then we do not pursue an objetive understanding of the universe, as a scientist would do, but precisely a subjetive understanding, in a way that helps us to direction our behavior, while we look for reprodution and survival. Learn to be aggressive *in a sophisticated way.* Complex monsters emerge out of survival and reproduction, although it is a simplification.
Even science is subjective to knowledge, which in itself is a seemingly infinite thing which we have an infinitely increasing amount of, but always finite in total capacity. Science is as objective as our current reality of knowledge allows it to be. Known knowns, unknown knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns as they say.
It is said that those who can’t take accountability were traumatised the last time they felt the emotions of taking accountability, and thus have pushed it away. I can’t tell which of the non-accountable people are traumatised or have a weak ego.
Look into psychology. There’s a few different schools of thought: Structuralism, Functionalism, Behaviorism, Psychoanalytic (topic of this video, by Freud), Humanism, and the recent Neurobiological.
Emotions are our feelings and desires..intellect we use to achieve our desires... Self is what we create as we experience our life..Then what is the purpose of life?? Just fullfilling our desires??
You create your own meaning-you have the raw material of being alive-it is up to you to recognize the value in this and create your sense of meaning-get on with it.
In Frankel’s logotherapy , the encountering of id and ego ,or how affects and values relate to and result in opinions and rationales , lead to what is called meaning. This meaning can be recognized as structural meaning. This meaning phenomena is a push like mechanism for our behavior. In Frankel’s logotherapy , the encountering of ego and id , or how opinions and rationales relate to and result in affects and values , lead to what is called meaning. This meaning can be recognized as constructivist meaning. This meaning phenomena is a pull like mechanism for our behavior. Frankel emphasizes that emergence of that meaning depends of this issue that such encountering to take place in the form of a dialectic between an I and a You . Further Frankel elaborates that such dialectic thus forms the dialectic between therapist and the patient. I argue , the internal working of the vision created from how structuralism and constructivism form back and force the conscience ; results in the emergence of superego.
learn to meditate. Take 15 minutes a day and sit in a quiet place and try to think only of your breathing. Make a list of things in your life that you want to change or make you unhappy and come up with a plan to fix them. Write down your short and long term goals and work a little bit every day to achieve them. Start out VERY slow and work your way up to bigger things,but make sure you do at least one thing a day to move yourself closer to your goals. Don't listen to the voice in your head that says you can't do it,the meditation will help to tame that voice but not listening to it is probably the most Important thing you can ever do. Lastly,be grateful for the life and things you already have. Find peace brother.
No, ego is necessary and keeps you emotionally sound and stable.. ego is what keeps you sane... ruining your life is a personal choice... theres a reason behind every thought, word, or deed.
I had a pathalogical supressed super ego due to a very dominting parent. a trip on pcilocybin mushrooms unlocked my super ego and it became integrated into my day to day conciousness. very interesting. a professor once said that one very bad experience can mess ur mind up for life,so its not so strange that one singel mushroom medecine trip can heal it. it did for me.i had a flashback from the one time that i felt my psyche took a bad hit wich shrooms solved for me.
It’s rare for someone who has social anxiety to not also have a fear of public speaking. But Peterson is an extremely adept and confident public speaker. Nonetheless it’s still possible to have social anxiety without comorbid performance anxiety and public speaking phobia.
Speaking to groups on a topic you’re familiar with can be easier than speaking one to one, it becomes like an ‘act’, also there’s often very little conversation.
I love looking at myself as if I were an alien from 10*00⁰00pp in the future looking at my fossils but with tech to look at my marrow and absorb my cellular memorioe via my biology.
Peterson approaches lecturing with a core idea or topic he intends to explore, a couple supporting points in mind, and then essentially riffs on it until he reaches a sensible conclusion. It keeps things interesting because it feels organic and he never gives the same lecture twice. I'll grant you it can be a little discursive at times. But assuming you were listening and he said something you didn't know before you listened, well then he's succeeded in teaching you something.
some days I feel like a nut some days I don't..... I've been called "dumb dumb.":..... and I've been called "holier-than-thou " I'm trying to find a sane balance between the 2 that doesn't make me nauseated
My superego and my ego walk into a bar. The bartender says, "I'll need to see your id."
Nice one
That turn in the begging though
Chom Chom Earth what about it
lol
WORD
Begging?
Agent 00kermit
Instant gratification let you stay childish and immature.
Sacrifying your confort for a greater goal is what makes you mature.
@Armagedd0nn nie zesraj się
... and neurotic. or anxious.
@Armagedd0nn ? These types of videos give a different perspective. I think people should watch them to understand and apply some of the knowledge in their life. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and orwhat he said 🤷♂️
Is that so the so called enlightened ppl have no problem destroying lives or killing millions of ppl,because they are of higher nature and the rest of humans are of lower nature,rats or herd that have to be guided.
How many lecturers did this brilliant man give before they started recording them. How much value have we missed out on.
Lol
Wait until you hear about the library of Alexandria 😢
It’s terrifying how many people cannot sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to this man.
Love the "Pensioner on a slot machine" analogy
I think he said "tensioner" ? Or am I crazy?
"Pensioner" makes sense. "Tensioner" does not.
laughed out loud at that
That's so me
perhaps the most important point peterson has made clear. thoughts (limitations) are maps of the territory of truth (unlimited) they are not the territory itself. maps don’t update on their own to a constantly changing environment however. hence the ability of our consciousness to feel emotion, sensation (smell,taste,sight,sound,touch) & observe thought (awareness) these of which we can learn to harmonize in order to overcome the limitation of our perceptions of what is (truth)
No cap that was beautiful
so "listen and feel"?
ur right and I think the innate desire or things that cannot be translated into thoughts, manifests itself in real world through the ego, kind of like an unconscious action I guess? But yea the truth is not defined. I am reminded from a sanskrit sloka, that the truth(unlimited) is something that you cannot quantify, the exact phrase is "not this, not this", the moment you attach something to it, it becomes limited to it like the ego, fascinating, Jordan got so close to defining it, but yet he cannot, fascinating.
Imagine: You're a psych student at University of Toronto. It's the first day of class. Jordan Peterson beelines into the class room, places his stuff on his desk in one quick motion, then immediately - 00:00
He knows after all that student's time is worth at least 50$/h if you think in terms of deferred wages
Lucky students to have him as their teacher. Jordon Peterson continues to be one of the brightest people on our Planet!
Agreed
Yeah! So True They're Damm Lucky. 😩
I like that when he’s talking about being on the computer screen in the beginning he’s not making it about the younger generation and even makes a joke about people on pension which is typically older people
Watching him think so hard was so appealing to me - I got too distracted to keep following his words....
Thanks for including the link to the original lecture in your description. 👍
You know, sometimes I'm in sync with this guy and sometimes I'm not . . . and sometimes I have no idea what he's talking about, and I'm not sure if it's my fault or his . . . but he is ALWAYS fascinating to listen to. He is, in that way, like a truly funny stand up comedian. Such a comedian doesn't rely on one-liners, he is just inherently funny no matter what he's saying. While Peterson is seldom funny, he is always interesting, inherently. He has a gift.
The ego is the merge of awareness & thoughts
This guy knows a lot
2:50 When the search query in the database is taking longer to load than usual.
Thanks
You saved me six seconds.
@@comeonitsomar6618 you just wasted them in typing
I like how he wiped his face during an ego talk haha.
Free of overwhelming emotion,
not pain free.
Some people enjoy pain, some people enjoy adrenaline rushes, some people even enjoy the challenge of stress.
I doubt many people enjoy being overwhelmed by emotions and doing something they later regret unless they have some serious mental health issue.
My guess is, before the word "therapist" existed, there was one word for ego, and it was 'I,' as in "'I' perceive that 'I' am wise enough to give others counsel, and that 'I' am so wise, 'I' don't need any counsel!"
At this point in life I'm to deep in myself to explain it to other beings in the physical
My teacher started off the class by well, jumping and saying, “I WANT”
Lol man turned around and said “You can only see a very narrow chunk of the electromagnetic spectrum☝🏻”
What an enlightened being, his humbleness is vibrant
Your pretty
*humility
We are our brains
But what about athletic reflexes that we programmed into our body, our peripheral nervous system
Mans just described why we see visible light in 11seconds 0:11
In the context of Freudian psychoanalysis , the epigenetic conscious working model of id and ego can be described by two dominating feature of id and ego.
Id is the affect part of a persons identity . id or the affects are dominated by value based emotions .the id is filled with obsessions and natural tendency of psyche to empirically function in accordance to similarity seeking thus is basically empirical or aligned with empiricism.
Ego is the rational part of a persons identity . ego or rationales are dominated by logic based opinions. The ego is filled with doubtings and natural tendency of psyche to rationally function in accordance to difference seeking thus is basically rational or aligned with rationalism.
A superego or virtuous personality which grounds its mentality based value-based function of id , prefer to moralize and direct its thoughts and behaviors in accordance to internal ethics.
A superego or virtuous personality which grounds its mentality based logic-based function of ego , prefer to reason and direct its thoughts and behaviors in accordance to internal reason.
Speaking of psychotherapy , since structuralism is a conscious working model reaching from value to rationality , that is to say reaching from id to ego , thus a person who can emphasize on how its values and thus emotions form its thoughts and reasons is using structuralism as a psycho-therapy.
Speaking of psychoanalysis , since constructivism is a conscious working model reaching from rationality to value , that is to say reaching from ego to id , thus a person who can emphasize on how its thoughts and thus reasons form its values and emotions is using constructivism as a psycho-therapy.
In practice , the structural psychotherapy is a diagnosis approach.
In practice , the constructivist psychotherapy is a curing approach.
Nice copf and paste
I would pay a collage tuition just to have only his class 4 years. Amazing teach an amazing person
Wow he’s gotten sm healthier since then, he’s pale, eyes are red and puffy, and hair is just as gray. Glad that the effort hes put in has manifested
It's wrong to say that the brain is all over your body, there are obvious anatomical classifications that clearly determine what is considered a brain. Also, the autonomic nervous system doesn't have more neurons than the CNS, nowhere near as much and even those that is does have are very dependent on the neurons in the rest of the CNS.
True, my estimation is that Jordan Peterson alludes to a more conceptual definition of mind according to Dr. Dan Siegel for example, instead of the strictly biological definition of brain. Meaning that (for example) thoughts and emotions are not purely conceived of in the brain itself but is intricately linked with the nervous system, visual and auditory interactions with other people, etc.
Right but then if you look into how gut bacteria affects someone’s mood I can see why he’d make that extrapolation
@@thefunkybassistnl But the brain sends the message to cns. So cns relies on the brain to act out and decide what is bound to be. We are nothing without our brain and heart remember that. Brain controls the whole body,our BRAIN is our MIND and everything manifesting in it. We are our brains basically, let me rephrase that "our brain is us"
But could you debate on this topic with him, Mr. Jordan Peterson in person?
It is however quite interesting that those who dance professionally or are fit and sporty almost always act more vivaciously.
ego is the one that is responsible for manifesting ur innate desires which either is by id or the superego, but the id and superego is a simplification, I think it's part of a whole chaos, the ego is the one that guides you and makes you you I guess, fascinating
That muslim girl in the front has a large wardrobe of hoodies. Never the same one twice.
@Shifter A hey look, a racist :)
@@sebmeister67 wow so cool
@@sebmeister67 ok dude
Kube Dog racist on a Jordan Peterson video thread? No way
Who’s gonna tell him it’s not a hoodie
Hard for common people to follow, specially due to the psychological terms.
That's why many will get distracted.
speaking of ego lmao
@Joe Biden Child-Predator I haven't studied psychology, so definitely I am one of the common people here.
Detect right fruit.
But it would be nice to be able to not be overwhelmed by receiving too much information.
- mind is not separated from the body.
Thought is not abstract from the body.
Enlightment: reason shouldn't be contaminated with subjectivity, emotion and motivation. Emotion and reason as enemies.
Froid somewhat agreement: the drive is the 'Id', and it has to be repressed or approved by the ego in the service of the superego. Maybe because their patients didn't intengrate their drive with their reason (?)
But if thought is not separeted of body, then we do not pursue an objetive understanding of the universe, as a scientist would do, but precisely a subjetive understanding, in a way that helps us to direction our behavior, while we look for reprodution and survival.
Learn to be aggressive *in a sophisticated way.*
Complex monsters emerge out of survival and reproduction, although it is a simplification.
Even science is subjective to knowledge, which in itself is a seemingly infinite thing which we have an infinitely increasing amount of, but always finite in total capacity. Science is as objective as our current reality of knowledge allows it to be. Known knowns, unknown knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns as they say.
@@luckerooni7628 that was some wordy bullshit.
This man is ovorloaded with all sorts of information.
A monster.
2:54 never knew that
It is said that those who can’t take accountability were traumatised the last time they felt the emotions of taking accountability, and thus have pushed it away. I can’t tell which of the non-accountable people are traumatised or have a weak ego.
Jordan Peterson is brilliant, noble, & eloquent
Although that’s a simplification
You've got something on your nose...
I think you have no idea what your talking about
God bless this man
Love watching Peterson
Hijab girl has Never skipped a class
Where did he explain the id ego and superego though?
Ok so it cuts both ways right in history however to what extent are the children responsible?
I have no idea what this man just said.
Look into psychology. There’s a few different schools of thought: Structuralism, Functionalism, Behaviorism, Psychoanalytic (topic of this video, by Freud), Humanism, and the recent Neurobiological.
🤔 how old are you? I’m asking because this lecture might be beyond your ability to comprehend.
Emotions are our feelings and desires..intellect we use to achieve our desires... Self is what we create as we experience our life..Then what is the purpose of life?? Just fullfilling our desires??
The purpose of life is life itself.
You create your own meaning-you have the raw material of being alive-it is up to you to recognize the value in this and create your sense of meaning-get on with it.
The purpose of HUMAN life is to discover the meaning out there.
I suggest you try and ask yourself this: Do I have a purpose for figuring out the purpose of life? :)
You're getting hung up on the word "purpose" as opposed to what "purpose" means.
Damnit, I'm here because I'm an information forager
Made me laugh. Thanks.
Good video
In Frankel’s logotherapy , the encountering of id and ego ,or how affects and values relate to and result in opinions and rationales , lead to what is called meaning. This meaning can be recognized as structural meaning. This meaning phenomena is a push like mechanism for our behavior.
In Frankel’s logotherapy , the encountering of ego and id , or how opinions and rationales relate to and result in affects and values , lead to what is called meaning. This meaning can be recognized as constructivist meaning. This meaning phenomena is a pull like mechanism for our behavior.
Frankel emphasizes that emergence of that meaning depends of this issue that such encountering to take place in the form of a dialectic between an I and a You . Further Frankel elaborates that such dialectic thus forms the dialectic between therapist and the patient.
I argue , the internal working of the vision created from how structuralism and constructivism form back and force the conscience ; results in the emergence of superego.
My ego ruins my life
You ruin your life
learn to meditate. Take 15 minutes a day and sit in a quiet place and try to think only of your breathing. Make a list of things in your life that you want to change or make you unhappy and come up with a plan to fix them. Write down your short and long term goals and work a little bit every day to achieve them. Start out VERY slow and work your way up to bigger things,but make sure you do at least one thing a day to move yourself closer to your goals. Don't listen to the voice in your head that says you can't do it,the meditation will help to tame that voice but not listening to it is probably the most Important thing you can ever do. Lastly,be grateful for the life and things you already have. Find peace brother.
No, ego is necessary and keeps you emotionally sound and stable.. ego is what keeps you sane... ruining your life is a personal choice... theres a reason behind every thought, word, or deed.
Psyche, Soul, Mind, Ego, Intellect, all essentially the same thing.
Where's the rest?!?
Scope, yes...
Like even to what extent to you literally agree with your parents teachings? They are sometimes right but not always perhaps?
2:45
I had a pathalogical supressed super ego due to a very dominting parent. a trip on pcilocybin mushrooms unlocked my super ego and it became integrated into my day to day conciousness. very interesting. a professor once said that one very bad experience can mess ur mind up for life,so its not so strange that one singel mushroom medecine trip can heal it. it did for me.i had a flashback from the one time that i felt my psyche took a bad hit wich shrooms solved for me.
3:09 Why do people from the past rub Rona in their face?
Id (ea) e in action and a highest potential self
Sometimes, I wonder if JP suffers from some kind of a social anxiety himself
When he speaks on anxiety he speaks as if he is afflicted himself
He didn't suffer an addiction to benzos for fun methinks. Blessings to all in pain. 🙏
It’s rare for someone who has social anxiety to not also have a fear of public speaking. But Peterson is an extremely adept and confident public speaker. Nonetheless it’s still possible to have social anxiety without comorbid performance anxiety and public speaking phobia.
Speaking to groups on a topic you’re familiar with can be easier than speaking one to one, it becomes like an ‘act’, also there’s often very little conversation.
Completely irrelevant title but interesting nonetheless.
So I'm actually uncomfortable when I'm uncomfortable.
He looks so baked
I want to be The Best Street Racer Ever !
I love looking at myself as if I were an alien from 10*00⁰00pp in the future looking at my fossils but with tech to look at my marrow and absorb my cellular memorioe via my biology.
It's just me or Peterson gesticulates a lot while talking?
So, what about your hair?
It's part of your body, but it kind of grows out of your mind...
JediNiyte actually the hair and the nails are made of dead cells so technically the brain is not in them.
Gave this dude 20 cents for the same speech
3:10 3:26
I want to be his student ! Can someone sponsor me 😁
TH-cam did!
It's a feed, dopamine...
Fuck he's expericing the same pain as me
Well, fuck, my idol, is as conflicted as me how do I continue.
Very misguided interpretation of Freud's concepts here... I would expect a lot better from JP.
He loves ripe fruit!
Who doesn't?
@@estebanb7166 Cats
@@bennymarshall1320 Fuck cats.
@@estebanb7166 =O
The trust in god
"إن وعد الله حق"
Does this just want to make you cry, its so boringly(not being nevative) obvious, and the fact that its not is pain.
Prime example of the video that's says nothing.
Some vader choke at the start there
Mind bawdy dichawtomy
Good lecture but, damn, he looks tired.
Man I just want to stop being so unlikable. Help me jordan peterson!!!!
bawdy
Bawdy
does he know how to teach or does he just like hearing himself think out loud
Peterson approaches lecturing with a core idea or topic he intends to explore, a couple supporting points in mind, and then essentially riffs on it until he reaches a sensible conclusion. It keeps things interesting because it feels organic and he never gives the same lecture twice. I'll grant you it can be a little discursive at times. But assuming you were listening and he said something you didn't know before you listened, well then he's succeeded in teaching you something.
Do you know how to listen or do you just like to whine when you aren't handed the knowledge of the world on a platter?
What the fuck?
You can just say you don’t know, it’s ok Jordan
The trinity in a nutshell.
Patrón un
Lol do you even know what your talking about!? Please don't post any more i don't want to see THIS!
What is he saying? Lol
try to listen next time
I hate this guy beats a lot around the bushes. Cant he just go straight to the point ?
shill
Nic Green silly statement from a kid on a computer.
some days I feel like a nut
some days I don't.....
I've been called "dumb dumb.":.....
and I've been called "holier-than-thou "
I'm trying to find a sane balance between the 2 that doesn't make me nauseated