Being from a family with an abuser I can attest the abuser can be super charming & even funny in front of others & in public. You come to cherish those good times & fear the trigger moments. The Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde personality does exist. The threats with gun shots & holes in the wall can happen…. It’s an emotional & psychological roller coaster life🎢
This mans state of mind ? ? Married a very young woman within 2 weeks of meeting her? Shooting his gun into the ceiling. Punching a hole in the wall ? These are true anger issues.
There are anger issues yes but no evidence he hit her. And what about her? She chose to marry this man after 12 days. Do we dismiss her actions as being an "emotionally vulnerable young woman"? He helped her pursue her dream to create a ballet company - she was getting what she wanted. Do we know how their marriage came about - was it her initiation or his? He just lost his wife recently, he was a veteran and very likely had PTSD from his service making his emotional state potentially more difficult to manage. His prior DV history could have been related to his service, but he didn't hit her at least there is no record introduced at this point as I understand. Her "vulnerable and naive" DV victim defense is still suspect at this point - at least for me.
She's an easy read manipulator, I have zero clue how she's done this too. I'm glad I have sixth sense of reading people like I can...he may have anger issues, but that doesn't even come CLOSE to saying he was an abuser! You wanna hear some things I say after the Chicago Bears lose. Him doing the things he did do shows short fuse and he needs to vent in other ways, but does not mean he's an abuser. She's the type to say certain things to him, but SHOW or even tell others different, she probably had him wound tighter than a clock and then with finding some of this stuff out and/or realizing it to himself. Which made him unspin FAST. He needed to realize that and vent anger in other ways, absolutely, but that doesn't mean he's an abuser
I’m so frustrated that people don’t understand what it feels like to be in a abusive situation. It looks happy in front of everyone but alone it is so bad.
So no evidence of her being abused is evidence that she was being abused?? And everybody she knows saying that she appeared happy is proof that she was unhappy?? And war is peace, right?
Yes 🙌 this is what I’ve said .Only 1 of my friends knew what was going on and I hid it from everyone else until the day I was punched in the mouth and it was so swollen I couldn’t hide it .The constant threat of him killing himself if I left made me stay for months if not a year after I decided it was over 😢
And we are frustrated by people who claim to be with an abusive partner, yet never call the police, or do anything to remove themselves from said situation. It must be very frustrating to be with a partner who will claim abuse just because they lost an argument, or had to take some personal accountability, or they are just not getting their way and what they demand. Equally, I am delighted that most don't understand. It would be a very sad world if they did, and seems to be an odd thing to call for.
Having been in an abusive marriage - that's what you do - you laugh - you keep everything "happy" to keep them happy!! They are like a light switch - say the wrong thing . . . and oh buddy . . . the other side comes out when least expected!! You can't judge without knowing what a relationship is like - So glad that Vermont changed their law for abused woman - in the Jennifer Dulos case - he didn't hit/beat her - so because there were no bruises/black eyes - there was no abuse!!! They now look at the psychological abuse...which is what I lived with -- I would pray he would just hit me and get it over with - after an hour of verbal abuse - spitting in my face - screaming in my face!! No bruises though!
@@cmaggior1exactly when she thought no one in power believed her the police were not believing her the judge in family court basically called her a lier what did everyone expect. Being in an abusive relationship I know how it is to put on a happy face in front of others as to not get in trouble when alone.
My ex left me for dead. I came up with the explanations we could give the doc for my injuries while on the way to the hospital. Afterwards there would be plenty of videos of me laughing with him, even having a nice time. That didn’t mean I wasn’t still scared of him, or that he wasn’t capable of killing me. Its called a mind fuck for a reason. Nothing about our behavior is going to be what you , who have never lived it, thinks it should. After I kicked my ex out, I still had him come over one night, and it was even nove seeing him. The next night I stayed up all night with his gun on my hip, terrified he was coming to kill me. Truly there is NO WAY to know if she is telling the truth, but there are things pointing to him being threatening. I was the first woman he ever hit, then one night beat me and left for dead. He was an “amazing” man. Abuse doesn’t have a one size fits all.
Your story sounds awfully familiar. My first cover story was I tripped and fell down two flights of stairs.... Did everyone else think he was just the greatest guy, too? There has been nothing solid to prove or disprove he was violent, but what's been said so far sure fits the mold, imh opinion and experience.
Yes...thank you. My abuser (who also almost k*lled me) was such a "great guy". So funny and charming to everyone. Except when we got behind close doors. I never told a soul but he svrewed up and tried to k*ll us both in front of my grandmother. Even after that his friends think he's such a great guy.
I’m sorry that must have been horrible because you know two different people the one that showed you love and care and then the other side. It’s hard to wrap one’s head around that and shut off love. I get so mad when ppl say it’s the persons fault for staying or whatever. No, they are abused.
Peter, I just want to say, thank you. For not having a 20 min intro to your live streams and videos. And yes, I do just FF past the intro... or a nice short into like yours is awesome too 😃
I think he/she saw it in passing and asked their lawyer to convey for impartiality. I think it’s good really that those involved in the trial (especially a juror) are accountable because the media stuff could be so detrimental.
My best friend for a decade was well known for being the nicest, most selfless guy anyone knew. I had never seen him angry before-until we started dating & living together in our mid/late 20s. I trusted him soooo much & yet I saw this side of him that was an angry & bitter drunk threatening to k*ll himself every other day. I had never seen this side of him for 10 years, through all his worst & best times! I had been in an abusive relationship about 5 years prior, so it not only shocked me but scared the shit out of me very quickly. and I was in my the best personal well-being of my life. that came crashing down sooo fast. I’m really glad to be done with that chapter of my life, but it grew an even bigger pit in my stomach of “you don’t truly know someone EVER.“
@@slanigradimagine blaming someone else for the actions of an angry and aggressive drunk who could leave at anytime but probably didn’t because he needed daily support and assurance from his spouse.
My abuser killed one of my baby rabbits in front of me, skinned it, cooked it on the grill in front of me and made me eat it. Wa La not a bruise on me. But fear deeply instilled. His family thought the moon hung on him too, and so did his friends. You just never know how someone has been screwed in the mind
Exactly - my ex would let me know that I better do this or better do that -- he would spit on me (we had 3 children) - if he would hit me - it was only on my back or top of my legs because no one would see it...but he was everyone's best buddy and I knew they would never believe me. I did finally get up the nerve to leave with the kids....and while he had visitation (he NEVER paid child support) - I get the kids all ready (they loved their Dad and I never talked back about him in front of them -same as he never abused me in front of them - until he did and that's when I left) - but they loved him and they would sit watching for him and he wouldn't show up... So yes, unless you have been there - you have no idea what is truly happening....her emails totally made me think she knows she better respond and keep it "nice" . . .
@@fernandaolivares7926she told the counselors she wasn’t staying with him but didn’t tell Doug, he wasn’t going to be living with them in MD he found his dream job and was going because she said they were reconciling
The media rep with News 8 needs to stop approaching witnesses as soon as they come out of the courtroom. The media should learn the correct way to be a media rep. Because the way they are doing now is not good!!!
Do you know if the same reporter was involved in all three incidents or has the info about the restaurant reporter not been identified yet. I know it's barely been a day but I have a whole ocean in the way and don't know which media to check😅
Same, seen my sister do it to her ex husband, and had my ex do it to me. Yet so many who were victims of abuse automatically believe the woman was the victim jist because she says she was.
@@Tinmann_77 I have personally seen the same thing play out in the courts. It is chilling and frightening to see the destruction to the parent of false accusations in police reports, child abuse allegations, etc.
Or maybe your mom became more noticeably manipulative in order to maintain peace & not have to walk on egg shells & subconsciously controlled when the eruptions would happen like EOD & controlled explosions
I recall in some high profile cases, lunch was provided to jurors because there was an instance where it was mentioned they requested better choices or something. For whatever reasons, jurors in this case go out to get their own lunches. Maybe that was a mistake if people in restaurants near the courthouse are talking about it. It seems to me to be an easily fixable problem: allow a delivery app or just have court employees go pick up “to go” orders to bring food orders to the jurors … and of course, I’m assuming jurors are provided a room or rooms to eat lunch.
Jurors are usually only provided lunch if they are sequestered during the trial or if they have begun deliberations. I had to leave the courthouse to get my own lunch both times that I served, both federal and state. I only remember having access to the jury room during deliberations or if we were sent out of the courtroom but not on recess but that probably varies.
@@SoCalMama I understand that’s the way they do things; and most of the time, it probably works fine. But for these high profile cases where there are a lot of reporters and spectators every day in the gallery, it seems to me to be an easy precaution that would cost A LOT less than a mistrial would cost if too many jurors overheard too much at lunch. If it is a high profile, interesting case, it seems obvious that courtroom spectators would go to restaurants near the courthouse during lunch break and they’d be talking about what they just observed.
I'm glad somebody commented about how he initiated almost all of the texts and that she just gave short or emoji responses, I noticed that too... and yes, vey telling from a dv perspective. Hope the defense points that out in their closing and asks the jury to go back and look over those texts in that light.
the most difficult thing I’ve had to do is take my emotions out of this trial. I would not want to be on the jury because of that, I started off thinking I could be objective and I realize that with any history you can’t be, or at least in my case.
Yes but how many houses have 20ft line of sight from a person threatening you? Not many. She’s also not a cop and many cops misjudge threats even with training until the person is in their personal space.
It is 21 feet , not 20 , in the well not paper development by an expert in Utah. This is why we have 7 yard targets. Close up distance is 21 feet..the paper is available on the web
Abusive people can hide their behaviors in public.People never know.Also,it’s a cycle of abuse where the abuser is nice, things are good, then flips, then is nice, things are good, then flips. The victim hangs on that hope each time that they have rehabilitated and tries to enjoy the good times but the cycle continues- not saying this is the case but I lived this and then the last flip becomes the most dangerous one totally unexpected. I don’t know this case very well but people don’t know what really goes on inside a home.
It sounds like they are saying the abuse was emotional/psychological and this was the first time it went physical. My ex was the same way, thankfully without access to a gun. It's scary to watch this person escalate and know help isn't coming - worse that people accuse you of being manipulative because there isn't "proof" - and the very quality of your life and the life of your children also depends on you behaving in a way that covers for scary behaviors done in private. It's scary when the people and organizations that are supposed to protect you don't act. I can see why she acted as she did. No one else was going to keep her safe, and his escalation could be deadly by the time someone pays attention
My heart breaks for the daughter 💔 my gawd her mom died and her father was murdered! She has every right to be distressed an speak her truth! The defense attorney is a joke !
@@Cowgirl_Sally Thank you. I completely agree about the daughter. I also know my ex NEVER touched me in front of his kids. Didn't mean my ribs were any less broken.
Reporters need to back down and refrain from trying to get a headline story knowing that they are going against the judge’s orders of sequestration and putting the witnesses in jeopardy. Nothing but vultures.
I’m a court clerk and that is exactly what we do in our district. They also get doughnuts, fruit, candy, drinks and we try to accommodate any special requests. Love my job!
In Utah they added to the law to caution police against making quick assumptions about abuse because it appears the other person is the violent one. This was after the gabby petito case. They thought she was the abuser and she ended up getting killed. Criminal lawyers and police officers should have to take classes to learn how to better understand and identify abuse.
I grew up in a DV household. It was physical twice but was mostly mental and emotional. I feared for my life many times as did one parent. The other parent played the great game with everyone. They all thought this person was a great parent and partner. Not one person knew what was happening. You have to play the game to appease the abuser. I am waiting for the defense case but I don't not believe at this point there was DV.
I'm waiting for the defense case to proof anything. They both like guns and in every damn American movie someone punched holes in walls. She moved away she lived with her mum not him. She didn't have to let him in all the time. I don't buy the she wanted sole custody she's manipuled him stuff either. Idk guns are just the worst
You state, "Not one person knew what was happening" yet YOU assume it didn't happen to her? Wtf? Seriously. How about the punch holes in the walls and the gun shot in the ceiling? That's not reason to question his inability to control his anger?
@@DOLfirstyou misread my comment. I said I don't not believe she's a victim. Meaning I believe she is a victim of dv. I don't believe the state proved their case but I always wait until the end of testimony to make a decision.
Does FL not provide lunches for the jury?? Isn’t that one of the reasons they are normally provided lunch so they do not have to go into public places during lunch when the whole gallery is also out to lunch??
@@spoonlessvalkyrie7514yes it is very unusual, extremely unusual for them to be on their own to go get lunch. You generally get a $25 - $35 lunch ticket & it’s to a certain restaurant & within walking distance. However, they normally bring in the menus, every one chooses what they would like, it’s ordered & 1 person with a bailiff or court officer goes to pick it up, or the court has it delivered to a sequestered room. Seriously, I believe we’re going to have to begin sequestering the juries & keeping them all in one single hotel, and not allowing them to be in public, going home at night to their family; using their cell phones during the day, & keeping them logged in without any access to the YT & SM channels.
The gun that Ashley Used to defend herself is a Springfield XD in .45 ACP.. this gun does not have a manual safety that you can toggle on or off. It has a grip safety, a safety in the trigger and it has a safety that blocks the firing pin if it were to be dropped on the ground. As soon as you pick this up with a firm grip and pull the trigger it will fire instantly. There's no preparing it or getting it ready. Somebody talked about that in the live chat today and it was incorrect.
@@1525ism Doug was NOT armed when he went over to help Ashley move... AT. HER. REQUEST. She gaslit him into believing they were all moving to Maryland and reconciling. I mean seriously, just look at the chain of text messages between Doug & Ashley in the days leading up to the homicide.
My ex was so violent with me, kicked holes in doors, drove dangerously, punched holes in door next to my face, spit in my face, and blew up in a rage weekly over nothing. I only deescalated, and never retaliated for fear of broken bones, it only happened to me, and they were calm and happy toward everyone else, at work an angel. I left, but right before is when they hit my face 25 times, trapped me in my room, someone called cops, they got off me, after biting my finger till it bled, and ripping my hair out, and spitting in my face and shouted at me to leave or I was going off to jail. I still moved away a week later, then filed a police report, got restraining order, they had 52 week batterers course ordered and were reprimanded in court by judge. I honestly went through hell with police getting my report, being asked why didn't I report sooner, when statute of limitations is 5 years. If my face wasn't deeply bruised for a month, I think noone would believe me. Its so hard because just thinking of the violent reactions to going to a hearing to get the rrsttaining order is reliving the worst fear of their violence. Someone shouting, throwing things, pulling you by the hair, shoving you, accusing you daily of things, highly jealous when completely unfounded, but they flirt, cheat, ignore you is psychological threats. DV is a pattern, and this person had been doing this to their partners for 40 years, but I never would have expected it until it happened in my rel, after the first week, gtadually got worse and worse till I got out...
Y do u people keep writing what happened to u ? I guess if u think it happened to u she’s innocent it had to happen to her? If y’all can’t see how biased this is I’m literally shocked
Absolutely that's abuse. I'm sorry you went through it. My sister married a guy like that. But so far I haven't heard evidence go that. Only her lawyers talking
@@maytheforcebewithyou4313 I do know I just choose not to take 10+ minutes writing it when half of u claim u need a mental institution if u even think about it. Definitely been abused by parents siblings significant others. I guess not all ppl built the same
Yes, they totally failed to bring the receipts for what they are claiming. Sadly, a lot of people really struggle with the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
My gut says guilty. I don't buy her demeanor. Psycho. Also the cop had her number. She lost it when she didn't get her way. I am a DV survivor and I just don't buy it on this one. I would not have had so much contact w him and have him help w moving if I am scared of him.
I wanted contact with my abuser (anxious attachment) after the last instance and which he was charged and convicted for. I wasn't always scared of him. It's very complicated. I think people make too many assumptions about what they would/wouldn't do in an abusive situation.We are not all the same.
I agree. I'm a DV survivor and I would never be alone with my ex, let alone taunt him with an engagement ring. She manipulated him, got what she wanted and shot him
I didn’t watch the live chat replay, but from what you gathered from live chat and what appeared on screen; I agree with CYK on this one. I shudder to vote on this poll at this point. Do I feel satisfied with the state’s case? No. Does that force my hand to vote NG? I gueessss? Do I feel good about it? No. There is SO much lacking in the state’s case - in fact the opposite. It is THEIR professional witnesses who testified to Doug’s previous violent acts. What are we spose to do with that? I really think we need to hear the entire case, down to rebuttal on this one. Overall, unimpressed with the prosecution of this case.
This is a self defense case meaning they only need prove she killed him. They proved that. Now it is on THE DEFENSE to prove it was justified. People that are saying the state didn’t prove their case seam to think she has a presumption of self defense simply claiming it and the pros has to disprove it. Not the case.
What you do is believe that he was proven violent and that she was abused and did her very best to escape . Whether she planned to shoot him as a last resort or was terrified can not be proven . Benefit of the doubt = NG .
@@BlackStump172 I think she overreacted and that deadly force was not her only resort in this situation. She ended a life. I saw no tangible evidence he ever threatened to end hers.
Imo Ashley is a sociopath &/or a psychopath. They were a very dysfunctional couple to say the least. I'm very curious about Ashley & Doug's psychiatric evaluations.
@@1525ism How was she trapped? They hadn't lived together for years, most of their marriage. They were both moving, but not in together. She may not have liked him, but she was, and had been in a position to avoid him.
Always appreciate your recaps!! You & Emily D. Baker are the best reasonable & unbiased lawyers on TH-cam. Really appreciate it as I’ll be in law student soon! (Kinda reminds me of how my more beloved law professors would comment if they did TH-cam lol. Educational, makes you think, unbiased, real-world knowledge, standing on fundamental rights even if it’s “unpopular”)
All we have heard is from the prosecutor so far. A defendant is presumed innocent, until proven guilty. Waiting to hear from the defense. I don’t listen to alphabet “news”
I am shocked anyone believes it's normal behaviour for a man to still pursue a woman relentlesly after she has left him several times, tried to get a restraining order against him, and was moving out of state far from him. I'm also shocked anyone believes a "good man" brings a new wife without even telling his grieving daughter and is punching holes and shooting a gun inside the house. Anyone who says they would not fear their face ending up like that wall if he got "frustrated" enough is lying or has normalized VERY unhealthy behaviour.
It was Doug who punched their dog unconscious. It was Doug who fired a gun inside the house to silence Ashley. It was Doug who scammed the ballet company . All Ashley did was get scammed by an older man
I heard about a story in Vanity Fair called "when Doug snd Ashley Benefield started a ballet co, it wasn't suppose to end in death". It's next on my must read list!
@@elf1845they got the same thing out of this trial as I have. No proof of bad acts by the murder victim, just anecdotes from the murderer and her family.
@@Answer4242 exactly. And if he was so abusive, why didn't she divorce him since they weren't living together, why did she push for reconciliation, why did she only "fear for her life" after he filed for divorce? Probably because he was also filing for custody and she would lose her meal ticket.
Poor thing. She’s just doing everything to be a normal teenage girl. For those who feel she doesn’t care it’s not that at all. It’s too much right now with being a teenager in high school believe me she’s not getting away with going through anything. It will hit her and her true adult hood life and then there she will deal with it.
The guy was 54 when he died. That's not young at all. He has an adult daughter. Is there any details about how he conducted himself in previous relationships? Surely there would be some clues to his abusive violent nature? It would be odd to begin that behavior in your 50's if you hadn't been abusively violent before. I find it scary that a woman can shoot a man, and then the community sees it that HE has to prove he wasn't violent, rather than HER having to prove that he was. Let's not forget that previous courts have ruled her to be untrustworthy. She even tried to say he was sexually abusive to his kid, and the court threw it out.
Thank you Peter for continuing to recap this trial with all of us! 💗 I always learn so much from your livestreams and videos. This is hands down my favorite channel on YT and I love the CYK just as much as I love the LYK! 🫶🏽
I am glad there are a lot of people have never lived in fear & actress you become to hide it from everyone. I could feel fear & she knows the triggers.
This poor girl is the same age Ashley was when she married a 54 year old man and yet Ashley is called a gold digger and a manipulator.Double standards to treat one like a child and one like a brazen money bragging harlet
@@jaynelloyd007we do not know he was murdered. Self-defense is not murder. We are not at the end of this case. Also, a 23 yo is not a child. If it was, Doug and Ashley would not have been allowed to marry.
@@jaynelloyd007the father did not prioritize his own daughter sad her mom died only 9 months earlier he secretly marries a woman 30 years younger imo Doug was a douche
I've been watching the trial itself elsewhere, but I love coming back to your recaps because this is a Florida case and you are a Florida attorney. A lot of other chats are so incredibly toxic about abuse/DV and victims. Regardless of whether or not you believe Ashley to be one, plenty are who have stories eerily similar to their own lives and its incredibly painful to watch chats devolve around generalizations about abuse victims.
How come it could not be the Swan mentally abusing Doug. Sociopathic behavior would cause a sane person to act in a manner that is not normally their behavior.
He punched out his dog, shot off a gun inside because he was angry, and punched holes in the wall. PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR! What you're talking about is classic blaming the victim!
@@tracyholden5787yes, people are responsible for their own behaviour but there is such a thing as reactive violence. I know someone and his ex would push and push, phone the police and they would turn up just in time for him to react back while she acted all sweet and innocent. We have no idea if that happened in this case because Doug isn't here to tell his side of things. IMO this is probably what happened but I have nothing but a gut feeling and bits of evidence
@@tracyholden5787 you do realize he never hit her though. If you’ve even been around a sociopathic woman a man can be brought to act out due to the consistent push and pull mental and phycological abuse they do to their victims.
Several people commented that the victim's attorney who testified (hot ink dress and asked to be released but wasn't) also went on Court TV after testifying.
@@PhoebeMc there is NO PROOF she committed perjury. The disgusting defense attorney has ONE EMAIL from days before the hearing. You have no idea if there were emails after that changed the details, or if that email was accurate. Did you even watch the hearing after court today?
It’s REALLY hard for me to get over the fact that he never physically assaulted her prior to the night of the shooting, and at most bumped into her that evening. Even knowing he has fired a gun into the ceiling (we have to take her word it was purposeful on his part to intimidate her) and had punched a hole in a wall, if he doesn’t have a history of hitting her I have to take a leap to believe he suddenly wanted to beat or kill her that day. Also that video of her and her mom with him did NOT seem like a woman pretending to like him out of fear. She was relaxed and when she laughed (genuinely at that) she even had throat exposure by tilting her head back, which is a vulnerable movement a person in fear of the person sitting across from them wouldn’t do. None of this is adding up for me. Oh, and why didn’t she call 911 herself? The threat had been neutralized so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me that she would run to “safety” when the threat was gone. It would have made sense if he had hit her and she escaped. Or if her phone had been broke and she needed to borrow someone else’s to call the police. But going to a neighbors almost seems like she didn’t want to have to call 911 herself and explain it. She knew if she went next door the guy would call for her. That’s a potential reason she did that. Idk. I want her to take the stand and explain it to me Convince me why she felt the need to grab her gun, and why shooting him was the only option. I’ve seen so many women lie about abuse, so I know they’re capable of it, and it’s tainted me for believing other women when there isn’t substantial evidence.
…Shooting a gun in anger and punching hole(s) in the wall is not substantial evidence of abuse? To me, shooting a gun constitutes an unspoken threat of murder. Good thing you wouldn’t be on the jury being “tainted”.
from what i heard, the gunshot into the ceiling episode happened when ashleigh violated eva's privacy by reading her diary, then took it to doug trying to get eva into trouble. (if i recall correctly she told him "you're supposed to pick me" over his own daughter.) she wouldn't let it go and kept ranting about it after he asked her to drop it several times. finally out of frustration he warned her if she didn't stop he would fire the gun. she kept yelling at him about eva so he fired into the ceiling. it's a terrible thing to do and i'm not trying to justify it, but i wouldn't consider that as a viable threat on her life.
@@reefshadow1 Shootng a gun in the air automatically means unspoken threat of murder?? Yeah I’m not seeing that. He’d never even physically touched her. Also I don’t know why you left a petty comment saying I shouldn’t be on the jury when I never once said I would convict her. Or that as a juror I couldn’t be unbiased. I said it’s tainted me in that now I have to question every woman who comes forward with those type of claims and dubious evidence. (Those thoughts shouldnt even enter my head!!!!). That’s not the same as me saying I automatically assume she’s guilty. Also there’s a distinct difference between leaning toward thinking someone is guilty , and actually finding her guilty as a juror. I haven’t watched the entire trial so I can’t say for sure what I would do. And I also haven’t heard the defense yet. But based on the recaps I’ve gotten from Peter’s I would actually find her NOT guilty at this point. Because I’m not convinced the state has proven she wasn’t in fear for her life. Even though I lean toward thinking she’s lying. There’s just way too many inconsistencies. (Though the defense might answer some of those.). Anyway him shooting a gun to make a point was clearly wrong, but it also wasn’t a direct threat on her. Especially with the explanation of what happened from the other commenter here. You have a right to believe that, I have a right to disagree. But let’s not act like children.
I've lived through a very similar situation. My parents, I lived day in and out for 18 years. I wish so bad I could explain. My dad acted out very similar but it was out if frustration
She’d left three years earlier without incident. They’d been living apart for three years and in those years nothing happened, even when she responded to *his* filing for divorce by alleging he was sexually abusing their 2 year old baby. No one would fault her for leaving him and getting a divorce. Instead of going to galas with him while accusing him of poisoning her she could have made a clean break. It’s very weird that in three years apart where they had these insane proceedings and she dated /got engaged to someone else he didn’t react with anything approaching violence and somehow the night she invites him over and kills him was the night he suddenly tries to attack her. There’s nobevidenve he came in contact with her at all. An asshole can still be a murder victim, that’s what’s happened here.
I saw something about this case a long time ago and he ended up spending all his money on her and then losing it all. From what I recall the evidence implied that she killed him but it has been long time.
She manipulated him by how she got him to reverse his vasectomy and he got the balet company she was not even a month pregnant and moved.in with her mother and played games with him said he was poisoning her ,she had bloodwork, baby had bloodwork, she had drinks tested there was no poisoning. She moved to change jurisdictions and tried ot again. The time they were together before she got pregnant she fought consistently with him that he would choose his daughtwr over her. Ahe never would sign divorce papers but said she was trying to get away from him. She didnt want him involved once she got pregnant. She told him they were moving together and that day changed it up started a fightband killed him cause all of her previous shit dodnt work. She is very pro gun and carried them regularly. This woman is lying and she murdered that man in cold blood .
@DOLfirst his vasectomy was reversed, she was pregnant fast,moved with her mom,Doug's dead. I'm not talking about other women ,I'm talking about Ashley
I don't see DV as a defense from the evidence thus far. She shot him to death from a away and that is what seems relevant right now. So I really need the defense lawyers to set this up her DV position more effectively.
Ok so I was thinking correctly. The daughter has been making tik toks saying that her dad was murdered for no good reason and that this woman was awful. But then the trial shows that he obviously had aggressive scary behavior. This is a hard one
That's the same daughter that her father didn't respect her enough to tell her before he moved a complete stranger new wife into the home with her. It's the same daughter that said yes she knew how the bullet hole got in the kitchen roof and the fist punch hole in the kitchen wall. So I don't believe she didn't know about her father's temper. But afyer he died it's easy to forget all that and all of a sudden this man was such a saint. My ex was violent behind closed doors, his family knew, but when he died he suddenly became this holier than now saint.
@@mandystone3005Perhaps she is enjoying the attention and the vulnerable position of the defendant who was the interloper into her home . Revenge feels good .
@BlackStump172 Don't get me wrong I have understanding that she was not happy to have this women in her recently deceased moms house, she was a child then but now at 24, the age AB was when she moved in, I think she can look back and see that her father did that. AB was not just someone that walked in off the street and forced her and her dad to let her live there, her father did that and just told her afterwards. Even that shows that he was controlling and did what he wanted because no one else's opinion mattered. His daughter said that in those first months she moved in her friend as well. Now imagine you're AB and the daughter hates you and then another teenager moves in without you having any say. I bet you the 2 of them did what teenagers did to the wicked unwanted stepmother and ganged up on her. The daughter in her Tik Tok said she was a complete brat because she hated having AB in her mom's house.
I see all the comments arguing whether Ashley’s behaviour, words, actions, tone, facial expressions etc. are indicative of her being a DV victim trying to survive vs a manipulative liar trying to cover up her guilt. But for me, I’m not overly interested in digging into that, at this point. That’s simply because, for me, I can be 100% convinced a person is guilty, and would still feel compelled to vote not guilty if the state had not met their burden of proof. And personally, I don’t feel the prosecution have done that. They put forward a motive - the imminent release of the psych assessments - that they didn’t prove beyond reasonable doubt, and that their own witnesses cast doubt on. They knew, from the 911 call that Ashley claimed it was self defense, but provided no meaningful evidence to counter that claim. And their own witnesses were the ones who testified to things like bullet holes in the ceiling, and fist marks in the walls with no credible suggestion that they were caused by anyone but Doug during violent outbursts. Do I think it’s possible that Ashley is a manipulative liar who murdered her husband to keep her baby from him, and tried to pass that murder off as self defense? Definitely I think that’s possible. But have the state proven that beyond a reasonable doubt? Definitely not. I don’t think they have done enough to show motive, and to rule out self defense. May they get there on rebuttal? It’s possible I suppose, but at this point, it’s a very big ask, in my opinion.
#1- Re: Eva… she stated she only briefly spoke about her EMOTIONS, not the trial, with the reporter & posting a tiktok video ISN’T violating the admonition bc once again, she isn’t conversing with others about the trial… she was posting her thoughts & feelings. Now if a juror/witness watched it, THATS a violation against the juror or other witness.
Do you really think she didn't watch the videos in her feed nor anything else pertaining to this trial if she took the time to post 3 TikTok videos? She's 23yo. This trial is going to be a week not 3 months If courts just start allowing this type of action, the line gets more blurred.
I paid attention when the judge read the instructions to the next witness and she was right. Ashley and her lawyer are obsessed with her. I’ve never seen a defense that attacks victims and the jurors see that ok. If they call her again, that won’t go well. Still in the afternoon the lawyer kept asking for sanctions, disgusting, even the judge told him he is in a fishing expedition.
@@Kkay2490 Apparently you are the one that didn’t watch. The defense didn’t even cross the family and friends that were not in the house. The “friends” that are framing her deserved being exposed. Actually, even one of the main witnesses, since she didn’t seem like faking anything in the stand, they didn’t cross her, Kary. You should go and rewatch.
@@lhr8833😂 kr is the only 1 responsible for John's death. She was the obsessed , aggressive and abusive drunk that decided to drive and back in to John.
I like this girl, the decedent's daughter. I feel sorry for her. Right or wrong I would still say that what she said was wrong but I still hope they show her compassion.
How can she get away with not testifying after that opening statement? Not in my State. You can't just concoct a story without some form of evidence. For example, is her lawyer the only guy on the planet who knows Doug's "Ninja" dance? She supposedly has not told the story to ANYONE, sans her attorney since that day. Are we buying that? "If it doesn't make sense, it isn't true" ~ Judge Judy🧑⚖ I'll have to watch it again, but I remember thinking several times, how is that coming in without her testimony? Kill the guy, then just pretend it never happened? I have little doubt this is not a classic self-defense case but convicting her on this is going to be tough.
Using her phone to see the posts that she made on a social media platform is not violation of her privacy, esp since she admitted to posting about her testimony, and because she put it out there for people to see. If it was something she wanted to keep private, she wouldn’t have posted it to TikTok. 8:17
Is because her case is not a battled spouse syndrome case. That is why every time he tries to enter that, the judge stops him. He knows he is doing it wrong. Her defense is self defense, that has nothing to do with history, you can have a self defense case with a stranger. What matters is what happens at the moment of the incident and that the defendant can show they had a reasonable belief of being in danger at the moment. He cannot try two different cases at the same time, throwing all the spaghetti to see what sticks.
@@lhr8833However dv cases are not a one size fits all. You cannot just ignore the history in their relationship when it was the sum of that history that might have let her to believe her fave would end up like the wall in his house. I do believe the judge was low key trying to get her to testify if she wanted that evidence to come in. Once was enough, two times seemed fishy.
@@fernandaolivares7926 For the love of God, listen to Peter, he said that for the purposes of self defense that is not entered during the prosecution case. He literally explained it here, you just have to listen.
PETER!! Can you please cover any future disciplinary actions taken against Kari Morrissey from the Alec Baldwin trial for her great prosecutorial misconduct. THANK YOU! Love your channel!!!
That doesn’t work for the argument that she was pretending to officials that she wanted to move with Doug but was telling Doug no she wasn’t moving with him and didn’t want to work on the relationship. If she feared him, the lie would be spun the other way. That wasn’t the actions and words of a woman walking on eggshells.
Watching live each day with RA then getting Peters opinion after. For those who want to know what the daughters TikTok posts were after she was on the stand, RA looked them up almost immediately and told us what they said/were about. I’m still torn at this point. Hearing some of the stuff the defense has tried to get in, but judge won’t allow seems she may have been the victim of DV. I had a past partner that was controlling so I get “go along get along” mentality. I can see Ashley playing nice over texts to just keep the peace while telling others she was done. Long story short I’m not convinced one way or another yet. I have however learned so much during this trial with the judge making so many decision on camera with the jury excused. I absolutely love this judge, don’t agree with all his rulings but still love him.
My problem is The Police & The Child Protection didn't take her problems seriously, so to me that makes the Defenses Case Stronger, cause No one was helping her deal with his threats & antics.
watching this as the trial resumes......i believed ashley while i was listening to her. BUT when i looked at her, after then intense testimony, when they allowed her time to pull herself together, that is NOT the face of someone who had that type of emotional breakdown. the face does not match someone crying like that. also, tears? snot? she didn't even ask for a tissue. this is a very good actor. i had an abusive husband, she is imitating someone like me, but the physical part, the face, does not match. after i cried those types of tears of grief, your face changes for a while. the eyelids are very puffy, red, if you have make up on its all over your face, and you must have tissues, im calling this out as fake, she does not seem real, she seems like she is imitating someone like me, who was actually physically abused. also, i am noticing that she is off the stand, in a chair, and she is sneaking looking around, like fast, this is totally fake. if you have an emotional breakdown like this, it is humiliating and you do not want to look around at anyone or anything. like i said, i believed her, just listening, but then watching her, the face doesn't match the emotional sobbing, this is not right. remember, she has "artsy" training, acting, etc.
Being from a family with an abuser I can attest the abuser can be super charming & even funny in front of others & in public. You come to cherish those good times & fear the trigger moments. The Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde personality does exist. The threats with gun shots & holes in the wall can happen….
It’s an emotional & psychological roller coaster life🎢
This mans state of mind ? ? Married a very young woman within 2 weeks of meeting her? Shooting his gun into the ceiling. Punching a hole in the wall ? These are true anger issues.
There are anger issues yes but no evidence he hit her. And what about her? She chose to marry this man after 12 days. Do we dismiss her actions as being an "emotionally vulnerable young woman"? He helped her pursue her dream to create a ballet company - she was getting what she wanted.
Do we know how their marriage came about - was it her initiation or his? He just lost his wife recently, he was a veteran and very likely had PTSD from his service making his emotional state potentially more difficult to manage. His prior DV history could have been related to his service, but he didn't hit her at least there is no record introduced at this point as I understand. Her "vulnerable and naive" DV victim defense is still suspect at this point - at least for me.
She was a gold digger who after she didn't get everything as a spoiled brat killed him the father of her child she wasn't a DV victim he was!
Lol hitting a wall he didn't do that to her she's a liar will be convicted
@@frsmith5069 I think it was reported the defense attorney stated she had a bruise on side of face or head!
She's an easy read manipulator, I have zero clue how she's done this too. I'm glad I have sixth sense of reading people like I can...he may have anger issues, but that doesn't even come CLOSE to saying he was an abuser! You wanna hear some things I say after the Chicago Bears lose. Him doing the things he did do shows short fuse and he needs to vent in other ways, but does not mean he's an abuser. She's the type to say certain things to him, but SHOW or even tell others different, she probably had him wound tighter than a clock and then with finding some of this stuff out and/or realizing it to himself. Which made him unspin FAST. He needed to realize that and vent anger in other ways, absolutely, but that doesn't mean he's an abuser
I’m so frustrated that people don’t understand what it feels like to be in a abusive situation. It looks happy in front of everyone but alone it is so bad.
It can also look happy because he believed it was. At best that argument just means we don’t know. But she has an affirmative defense to prove.
So no evidence of her being abused is evidence that she was being abused?? And everybody she knows saying that she appeared happy is proof that she was unhappy?? And war is peace, right?
Yes 🙌 this is what I’ve said .Only 1 of my friends knew what was going on and I hid it from everyone else until the day I was punched in the mouth and it was so swollen I couldn’t hide it .The constant threat of him killing himself if I left made me stay for months if not a year after I decided it was over 😢
Just hearing those messages from him and the frequency made me feel smothered! Coercive control in full swing!
And we are frustrated by people who claim to be with an abusive partner, yet never call the police, or do anything to remove themselves from said situation. It must be very frustrating to be with a partner who will claim abuse just because they lost an argument, or had to take some personal accountability, or they are just not getting their way and what they demand.
Equally, I am delighted that most don't understand. It would be a very sad world if they did, and seems to be an odd thing to call for.
Having been in an abusive marriage - that's what you do - you laugh - you keep everything "happy" to keep them happy!! They are like a light switch - say the wrong thing . . . and oh buddy . . . the other side comes out when least expected!! You can't judge without knowing what a relationship is like - So glad that Vermont changed their law for abused woman - in the Jennifer Dulos case - he didn't hit/beat her - so because there were no bruises/black eyes - there was no abuse!!! They now look at the psychological abuse...which is what I lived with -- I would pray he would just hit me and get it over with - after an hour of verbal abuse - spitting in my face - screaming in my face!! No bruises though!
Especially you do this when you're in fear and she had to accept the court ruling that he had custody rights.
@@cmaggior1exactly when she thought no one in power believed her the police were not believing her the judge in family court basically called her a lier what did everyone expect. Being in an abusive relationship I know how it is to put on a happy face in front of others as to not get in trouble when alone.
Yep, this was my life too.
Good for VT
My ex left me for dead. I came up with the explanations we could give the doc for my injuries while on the way to the hospital. Afterwards there would be plenty of videos of me laughing with him, even having a nice time. That didn’t mean I wasn’t still scared of him, or that he wasn’t capable of killing me. Its called a mind fuck for a reason. Nothing about our behavior is going to be what you , who have never lived it, thinks it should. After I kicked my ex out, I still had him come over one night, and it was even nove seeing him. The next night I stayed up all night with his gun on my hip, terrified he was coming to kill me.
Truly there is NO WAY to know if she is telling the truth, but there are things pointing to him being threatening. I was the first woman he ever hit, then one night beat me and left for dead. He was an “amazing” man.
Abuse doesn’t have a one size fits all.
Your story sounds awfully familiar. My first cover story was I tripped and fell down two flights of stairs.... Did everyone else think he was just the greatest guy, too?
There has been nothing solid to prove or disprove he was violent, but what's been said so far sure fits the mold, imh opinion and experience.
I am very sorry this happened to you!! 🙏
Yes...thank you. My abuser (who also almost k*lled me) was such a "great guy". So funny and charming to everyone. Except when we got behind close doors. I never told a soul but he svrewed up and tried to k*ll us both in front of my grandmother.
Even after that his friends think he's such a great guy.
I’m sorry that must have been horrible because you know two different people the one that showed you love and care and then the other side. It’s hard to wrap one’s head around that and shut off love. I get so mad when ppl say it’s the persons fault for staying or whatever. No, they are abused.
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Peter, I just want to say, thank you. For not having a 20 min intro to your live streams and videos. And yes, I do just FF past the intro... or a nice short into like yours is awesome too 😃
Those intros are for premiere. I think Peter has then too. That's just TH-cam. They're not for live videos just for premièrs
Agree! I use to watch Bruce R but i got tired of fast forwarding
@@stephjovis3469 some creators have crazy long intros! "Clutch them pearls" is like 10 minutes!
@lr8189 Aww, I always sing along to CLR 😆
@@scrantonstrangler8301 but then the e sign form talk is a turn off 😂
Not every day is a DV day, the moods can change in a second.
The fact that there’s a reporter who went as far as to hire a lawyer and are following jurors is extremely concerning
I think he/she saw it in passing and asked their lawyer to convey for impartiality. I think it’s good really that those involved in the trial (especially a juror) are accountable because the media stuff could be so detrimental.
My best friend for a decade was well known for being the nicest, most selfless guy anyone knew. I had never seen him angry before-until we started dating & living together in our mid/late 20s. I trusted him soooo much & yet I saw this side of him that was an angry & bitter drunk threatening to k*ll himself every other day. I had never seen this side of him for 10 years, through all his worst & best times! I had been in an abusive relationship about 5 years prior, so it not only shocked me but scared the shit out of me very quickly. and I was in my the best personal well-being of my life. that came crashing down sooo fast.
I’m really glad to be done with that chapter of my life, but it grew an even bigger pit in my stomach of “you don’t truly know someone EVER.“
sooo,you were driving that poor man crazy?
@@slanigrad what kind of comment is that. How is someone responsible for how a whole grown person behaves
@@slanigradimagine blaming someone else for the actions of an angry and aggressive drunk who could leave at anytime but probably didn’t because he needed daily support and assurance from his spouse.
🚩🚩🚩🚩@@slanigrad thanks for outting yourself
My abuser killed one of my baby rabbits in front of me, skinned it, cooked it on the grill in front of me and made me eat it. Wa La not a bruise on me. But fear deeply instilled. His family thought the moon hung on him too, and so did his friends. You just never know how someone has been screwed in the mind
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Exactly - my ex would let me know that I better do this or better do that -- he would spit on me (we had 3 children) - if he would hit me - it was only on my back or top of my legs because no one would see it...but he was everyone's best buddy and I knew they would never believe me. I did finally get up the nerve to leave with the kids....and while he had visitation (he NEVER paid child support) - I get the kids all ready (they loved their Dad and I never talked back about him in front of them -same as he never abused me in front of them - until he did and that's when I left) - but they loved him and they would sit watching for him and he wouldn't show up... So yes, unless you have been there - you have no idea what is truly happening....her emails totally made me think she knows she better respond and keep it "nice" . . .
I would like to see the other messages the defense tried to get in!
and there is always a tipping point. They are always
conniving. Hope your safe now!
@@krisschobelock4973 Sorry to hear this. Be safe!
Cohesive Control is a real abuse. When the person starts loosing control it becomes a very dangerous situation. Abuse isn't always being hit
Agreed!! This is a huge part of what I believe Ashley did to Doug
*Coercive
@@MayaGTKThe one losing control was Doug. She was the one leaving him (again) and he was the one following her, not the other way around.
@@fernandaolivares7926 yes abusers do desperate things when they lose control. There is a reason why leaving is the most dangerous part.
@@fernandaolivares7926she told the counselors she wasn’t staying with him but didn’t tell Doug, he wasn’t going to be living with them in MD he found his dream job and was going because she said they were reconciling
Peter, I would love to watch a video about your time management! It's a mystery to me as well.
I think th high energy has something to do with it. It's attractive.
The media rep with News 8 needs to stop approaching witnesses as soon as they come out of the courtroom. The media should learn the correct way to be a media rep. Because the way they are doing now is not good!!!
Do you know if the same reporter was involved in all three incidents or has the info about the restaurant reporter not been identified yet. I know it's barely been a day but I have a whole ocean in the way and don't know which media to check😅
Glad judge addressed the juror in restaurant issue immediately. It was “nipped in the bud” so it’s not an issue later.
I lived through DV, and my mom was manipulative. I grew up believing my dad was evil, but after years later I realized now she provoked him
Same, seen my sister do it to her ex husband, and had my ex do it to me.
Yet so many who were victims of abuse automatically believe the woman was the victim jist because she says she was.
@@Tinmann_77 I have personally seen the same thing play out in the courts. It is chilling and frightening to see the destruction to the parent of false accusations in police reports, child abuse allegations, etc.
Did she ever have to shoot your dad dead while backed up into the corner of her bedroom, with no further place to run?
@@D64nz if you listen to some of her stories you'd think she had.... wouldn't be the truth though
Or maybe your mom became more noticeably manipulative in order to maintain peace & not have to walk on egg shells & subconsciously controlled when the eruptions would happen like EOD & controlled explosions
Thanks Peter for your unbiased coverage. You’re my go to Lawyer on YT
He's awesome!
She was warned not to discuss this case, nit to use social media and she does it anyway.
I recall in some high profile cases, lunch was provided to jurors because there was an instance where it was mentioned they requested better choices or something. For whatever reasons, jurors in this case go out to get their own lunches. Maybe that was a mistake if people in restaurants near the courthouse are talking about it. It seems to me to be an easily fixable problem: allow a delivery app or just have court employees go pick up “to go” orders to bring food orders to the jurors … and of course, I’m assuming jurors are provided a room or rooms to eat lunch.
Jurors are usually only provided lunch if they are sequestered during the trial or if they have begun deliberations. I had to leave the courthouse to get my own lunch both times that I served, both federal and state. I only remember having access to the jury room during deliberations or if we were sent out of the courtroom but not on recess but that probably varies.
@@SoCalMama I understand that’s the way they do things; and most of the time, it probably works fine. But for these high profile cases where there are a lot of reporters and spectators every day in the gallery, it seems to me to be an easy precaution that would cost A LOT less than a mistrial would cost if too many jurors overheard too much at lunch. If it is a high profile, interesting case, it seems obvious that courtroom spectators would go to restaurants near the courthouse during lunch break and they’d be talking about what they just observed.
Ya, it's the jury room. That's where we had lunch brought to us.
I'm glad somebody commented about how he initiated almost all of the texts and that she just gave short or emoji responses, I noticed that too... and yes, vey telling from a dv perspective. Hope the defense points that out in their closing and asks the jury to go back and look over those texts in that light.
the most difficult thing I’ve had to do is take my emotions out of this trial. I would not want to be on the jury because of that, I started off thinking I could be objective and I realize that with any history you can’t be, or at least in my case.
Is sickening how abusers can be so sweet for long periods of time. They can just turn on a sec and it makes our mental state such s mess
For cops, closer than 20 feet is a distance that justifies pulling the trigger because an assailant can close the distance so fast.
Also, if you say the word "fentanyl" out loud in a closed room, a cop can OD on it like 3 days later...
Yes but how many houses have 20ft line of sight from a person threatening you? Not many. She’s also not a cop and many cops misjudge threats even with training until the person is in their personal space.
Law is different for a police officer
It is 21 feet , not 20 , in the well not paper development by an expert in Utah. This is why we have 7 yard targets. Close up distance is 21 feet..the paper is available on the web
She is not a cop.
Abusive people can hide their behaviors in public.People never know.Also,it’s a cycle of abuse where the abuser is nice, things are good, then flips, then is nice, things are good, then flips. The victim hangs on that hope each time that they have rehabilitated and tries to enjoy the good times but the cycle continues- not saying this is the case but I lived this and then the last flip becomes the most dangerous one totally unexpected. I don’t know this case very well but people don’t know what really goes on inside a home.
It sounds like they are saying the abuse was emotional/psychological and this was the first time it went physical. My ex was the same way, thankfully without access to a gun. It's scary to watch this person escalate and know help isn't coming - worse that people accuse you of being manipulative because there isn't "proof" - and the very quality of your life and the life of your children also depends on you behaving in a way that covers for scary behaviors done in private. It's scary when the people and organizations that are supposed to protect you don't act. I can see why she acted as she did. No one else was going to keep her safe, and his escalation could be deadly by the time someone pays attention
Can’t wait for the Sarah Boone video…
The reporter wasn't supposed to be in the courthouse soliciting interviews. He-She was reminded of the courthouse policy.
I agree that reporter is not doing his job correctly. I think they should have banned him from covering the trial
@@lacylnn1981 Yeah. Idk of he was reprimanded. I hope so. Policies are in place for a reason. Poor Eva was stressed enough already.😒
The judge said the media relations person has to remind the media of the rules.
@@stephjovis3469 Got it. Thx for info😊
@@lacylnn1981 the reporter thought it was funny 😡
My heart breaks for the daughter 💔 my gawd her mom died and her father was murdered! She has every right to be distressed an speak her truth! The defense attorney is a joke !
agreed, that girl has gone through the ringer :(
The proof decent people still exist.
Hate people making rude comments about her with smiley faces.
People shouldn’t judge the daughter but the defendant deserves a fair trial.
@@Cowgirl_Sally Thank you. I completely agree about the daughter. I also know my ex NEVER touched me in front of his kids. Didn't mean my ribs were any less broken.
Reporters need to back down and refrain from trying to get a headline story knowing that they are going against the judge’s orders of sequestration and putting the witnesses in jeopardy. Nothing but vultures.
How about his former attorney that testifies yesterday and went straight to a Court TV interview
@@B_BodziakDid she ? She was still under oath .
To avoid issues why don’t they just supply lunches for jurors and have them stay in the courthouse, in a separate area?
They do in other Circuits. I’m sure it is a budget cut issue.
I’m a court clerk and that is exactly what we do in our district. They also get doughnuts, fruit, candy, drinks and we try to accommodate any special requests. Love my job!
many other courts do, it’s dependent on jurisdiction based on budgets & sometimes length of trial (could be applicable here as well)
Re-watch crew here- I love the suggestion to talk about time management during a members-only live!! Or maybe even day-in-the life type of rundown.
In Utah they added to the law to caution police against making quick assumptions about abuse because it appears the other person is the violent one. This was after the gabby petito case. They thought she was the abuser and she ended up getting killed. Criminal lawyers and police officers should have to take classes to learn how to better understand and identify abuse.
I grew up in a DV household. It was physical twice but was mostly mental and emotional. I feared for my life many times as did one parent. The other parent played the great game with everyone. They all thought this person was a great parent and partner. Not one person knew what was happening. You have to play the game to appease the abuser. I am waiting for the defense case but I don't not believe at this point there was DV.
I'm waiting for the defense case to proof anything. They both like guns and in every damn American movie someone punched holes in walls.
She moved away she lived with her mum not him. She didn't have to let him in all the time. I don't buy the she wanted sole custody she's manipuled him stuff either. Idk guns are just the worst
You state, "Not one person knew what was happening" yet YOU assume it didn't happen to her? Wtf? Seriously. How about the punch holes in the walls and the gun shot in the ceiling? That's not reason to question his inability to control his anger?
@@DOLfirstI thought just that ☝🏼
How can you say you don’t believe someone when been through it yourself ?
@@DOLfirstyou misread my comment. I said I don't not believe she's a victim. Meaning I believe she is a victim of dv. I don't believe the state proved their case but I always wait until the end of testimony to make a decision.
Does FL not provide lunches for the jury?? Isn’t that one of the reasons they are normally provided lunch so they do not have to go into public places during lunch when the whole gallery is also out to lunch??
GOP are probably stealing all the money they used to use for this.
They do. The district I’m in takes the jurors to a restaurant as a group with a bailiff. They don’t go off by themselves. That’s really unusual
@@spoonlessvalkyrie7514yes it is very unusual, extremely unusual for them to be on their own to go get lunch. You generally get a $25 - $35 lunch ticket & it’s to a certain restaurant & within walking distance. However, they normally bring in the menus, every one chooses what they would like, it’s ordered & 1 person with a bailiff or court officer goes to pick it up, or the court has it delivered to a sequestered room. Seriously, I believe we’re going to have to begin sequestering the juries & keeping them all in one single hotel, and not allowing them to be in public, going home at night to their family; using their cell phones during the day, & keeping them logged in without any access to the YT & SM channels.
I have been using “Nothing Burger” in my everyday verbiage.
Makes sense, that's exactly what the prosecutor has served up!
Senator Lindsey Graham has used that phrase since 2016. He was the first person I've heard say it.
they have said multiple times that eva is allowed in the courtroom because of Marcie Law
The gun that Ashley Used to defend herself is a Springfield XD in .45 ACP.. this gun does not have a manual safety that you can toggle on or off. It has a grip safety, a safety in the trigger and it has a safety that blocks the firing pin if it were to be dropped on the ground. As soon as you pick this up with a firm grip and pull the trigger it will fire instantly. There's no preparing it or getting it ready. Somebody talked about that in the live chat today and it was incorrect.
Yup, just like a Glock.
She was a gun lover. She knew all that then right?
They both had gun licences to carry concealed. He could easily have been carrying a concealed gun. It was self defence.
@@1525ismdimwitted,as expected...
@@1525ism Doug was NOT armed when he went over to help Ashley move... AT. HER. REQUEST. She gaslit him into believing they were all moving to Maryland and reconciling.
I mean seriously, just look at the chain of text messages between Doug & Ashley in the days leading up to the homicide.
My ex was so violent with me, kicked holes in doors, drove dangerously, punched holes in door next to my face, spit in my face, and blew up in a rage weekly over nothing.
I only deescalated, and never retaliated for fear of broken bones, it only happened to me, and they were calm and happy toward everyone else, at work an angel.
I left, but right before is when they hit my face 25 times, trapped me in my room, someone called cops, they got off me, after biting my finger till it bled, and ripping my hair out, and spitting in my face and shouted at me to leave or I was going off to jail.
I still moved away a week later, then filed a police report, got restraining order, they had 52 week batterers course ordered and were reprimanded in court by judge.
I honestly went through hell with police getting my report, being asked why didn't I report sooner, when statute of limitations is 5 years. If my face wasn't deeply bruised for a month, I think noone would believe me. Its so hard because just thinking of the violent reactions to going to a hearing to get the rrsttaining order is reliving the worst fear of their violence. Someone shouting, throwing things, pulling you by the hair, shoving you, accusing you daily of things, highly jealous when completely unfounded, but they flirt, cheat, ignore you is psychological threats.
DV is a pattern, and this person had been doing this to their partners for 40 years, but I never would have expected it until it happened in my rel, after the first week, gtadually got worse and worse till I got out...
Y do u people keep writing what happened to u ? I guess if u think it happened to u she’s innocent it had to happen to her? If y’all can’t see how biased this is I’m literally shocked
Absolutely that's abuse. I'm sorry you went through it. My sister married a guy like that.
But so far I haven't heard evidence go that. Only her lawyers talking
@@MriahT-jt6ufsometimes people are just sharing their stories based on the subject being talked about. If you’re not interested, just keep scrolling.
@@MriahT-jt6uf no comment, if you know, you know
@@maytheforcebewithyou4313 I do know I just choose not to take 10+ minutes writing it when half of u claim u need a mental institution if u even think about it. Definitely been abused by parents siblings significant others. I guess not all ppl built the same
No, the state has not proven their theory of the case.
Yes, they totally failed to bring the receipts for what they are claiming.
Sadly, a lot of people really struggle with the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
At this point it seems there is reasonable doubt.
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My gut says guilty. I don't buy her demeanor. Psycho. Also the cop had her number. She lost it when she didn't get her way. I am a DV survivor and I just don't buy it on this one. I would not have had so much contact w him and have him help w moving if I am scared of him.
I agree, I dont believe her....my daughter was a dv victim & this woman is not a victim. She wanted him out of her & her child's lives
Agree
I agree I believe she is guilty but I also agree that State has not proven beyond reasonable doubt.
I wanted contact with my abuser (anxious attachment) after the last instance and which he was charged and convicted for. I wasn't always scared of him. It's very complicated. I think people make too many assumptions about what they would/wouldn't do in an abusive situation.We are not all the same.
I agree. I'm a DV survivor and I would never be alone with my ex, let alone taunt him with an engagement ring. She manipulated him, got what she wanted and shot him
I didn’t watch the live chat replay, but from what you gathered from live chat and what appeared on screen; I agree with CYK on this one. I shudder to vote on this poll at this point. Do I feel satisfied with the state’s case? No. Does that force my hand to vote NG? I gueessss? Do I feel good about it? No. There is SO much lacking in the state’s case - in fact the opposite. It is THEIR professional witnesses who testified to Doug’s previous violent acts. What are we spose to do with that? I really think we need to hear the entire case, down to rebuttal on this one. Overall, unimpressed with the prosecution of this case.
This is a self defense case meaning they only need prove she killed him. They proved that. Now it is on THE DEFENSE to prove it was justified. People that are saying the state didn’t prove their case seam to think she has a presumption of self defense simply claiming it and the pros has to disprove it. Not the case.
What you do is believe that he was proven violent and that she was abused and did her very best to escape . Whether she planned to shoot him as a last resort or was terrified can not be proven . Benefit of the doubt = NG .
@@BlackStump172 I think she overreacted and that deadly force was not her only resort in this situation. She ended a life. I saw no tangible evidence he ever threatened to end hers.
Love your coverage on this case Peter, I like that you explain everything and give us your thoughts as a jury member!
The state did not prove their case, through and through, period.
Just popping in to keep it light & say: thanks for your insight,,, & also, you look MAHVALOUS tonight 😎
Thank you so very much especially non biased as best any human can thank you 🙏🇵🇸❤️
Imo Ashley is a sociopath &/or a psychopath. They were a very dysfunctional couple to say the least. I'm very curious about Ashley & Doug's psychiatric evaluations.
Same
She just seems like a typical manipulator to me. And it seems that she gets very angry when people don’t buy into her lies.
Ashley lived in fear. He was totally manipulative and she was trapped. Self defence
@@1525ism I respectfully disagree with you.⚖️
@@1525ism How was she trapped? They hadn't lived together for years, most of their marriage. They were both moving, but not in together. She may not have liked him, but she was, and had been in a position to avoid him.
Always appreciate your recaps!! You & Emily D. Baker are the best reasonable & unbiased lawyers on TH-cam. Really appreciate it as I’ll be in law student soon! (Kinda reminds me of how my more beloved law professors would comment if they did TH-cam lol. Educational, makes you think, unbiased, real-world knowledge, standing on fundamental rights even if it’s “unpopular”)
I also love the way brother counsil recaps the trial. Maybe watch his channel sometimes
I'm in utter shock that people believe Ashley after everything she's done all her lies and sneaky sh$t. It's shocking ,poor Doug
All we have heard is from the prosecutor so far. A defendant is presumed innocent, until proven guilty. Waiting to hear from the defense. I don’t listen to alphabet “news”
I am shocked anyone believes it's normal behaviour for a man to still pursue a woman relentlesly after she has left him several times, tried to get a restraining order against him, and was moving out of state far from him.
I'm also shocked anyone believes a "good man" brings a new wife without even telling his grieving daughter and is punching holes and shooting a gun inside the house.
Anyone who says they would not fear their face ending up like that wall if he got "frustrated" enough is lying or has normalized VERY unhealthy behaviour.
@fernandaolivares7926 you clearly know very little about this case ,because what you're saying isn't even factual.
@@fernandaolivares7926 I'm shocked you can make statements like you made without knowing facts
It was Doug who punched their dog unconscious. It was Doug who fired a gun inside the house to silence Ashley. It was Doug who scammed the ballet company . All Ashley did was get scammed by an older man
I thought the exact same thing - he initiated all the texts and she responded
I heard about a story in Vanity Fair called "when Doug snd Ashley Benefield started a ballet co, it wasn't suppose to end in death". It's next on my must read list!
Well I watched her interview today and I tell you it almost made me change my mind about what I thought originally.
I feel deeply for Eva. She obviously is intelligent and a survivor. I admire Eva.
Not a fan of this trial. Woman murders husband she doesn't like instead of divorcing him like she should've
Have you been watching this trial?
@@elf1845they got the same thing out of this trial as I have.
No proof of bad acts by the murder victim, just anecdotes from the murderer and her family.
She hadn't lived with him for YEARS- most of their marriage. Why didn't she divorce is a good question.
@@Answer4242 exactly. And if he was so abusive, why didn't she divorce him since they weren't living together, why did she push for reconciliation, why did she only "fear for her life" after he filed for divorce?
Probably because he was also filing for custody and she would lose her meal ticket.
Her Tik Tok said something about testifying on live tv with your crush watching back home.
Wtf?
Poor thing. She’s just doing everything to be a normal teenage girl. For those who feel she doesn’t care it’s not that at all. It’s too much right now with being a teenager in high school believe me she’s not getting away with going through anything. It will hit her and her true adult hood life and then there she will deal with it.
@@rainbowinthedark453I’m pretty sure she’s 23…
@@emmaleighgilbert3679or 24
@@rainbowinthedark453She's 23, but does come across a bit immature. I feel bad for her losing both her parents so close together. She's had it rough.
The guy was 54 when he died. That's not young at all. He has an adult daughter. Is there any details about how he conducted himself in previous relationships? Surely there would be some clues to his abusive violent nature? It would be odd to begin that behavior in your 50's if you hadn't been abusively violent before.
I find it scary that a woman can shoot a man, and then the community sees it that HE has to prove he wasn't violent, rather than HER having to prove that he was. Let's not forget that previous courts have ruled her to be untrustworthy. She even tried to say he was sexually abusive to his kid, and the court threw it out.
Thank you Peter for continuing to recap this trial with all of us! 💗 I always learn so much from your livestreams and videos. This is hands down my favorite channel on YT and I love the CYK just as much as I love the LYK! 🫶🏽
I am glad there are a lot of people have never lived in fear & actress you become to hide it from everyone. I could feel fear & she knows the triggers.
This poor girl does not have a parent 😢
This poor girl is the same age Ashley was when she married a 54 year old man and yet Ashley is called a gold digger and a manipulator.Double standards to treat one like a child and one like a brazen money bragging harlet
@@Theworstwitch72 This poor girl had her father murdered by that woman. Do you think that might affect her emotional state and judgement.
@@jaynelloyd007 my point it people calling Eva a girl but calling Ashley a woman at the same age !
@@jaynelloyd007we do not know he was murdered. Self-defense is not murder. We are not at the end of this case.
Also, a 23 yo is not a child. If it was, Doug and Ashley would not have been allowed to marry.
@@jaynelloyd007the father did not prioritize his own daughter sad her mom died only 9 months earlier he secretly marries a woman 30 years younger imo Doug was a douche
I've been watching the trial itself elsewhere, but I love coming back to your recaps because this is a Florida case and you are a Florida attorney. A lot of other chats are so incredibly toxic about abuse/DV and victims. Regardless of whether or not you believe Ashley to be one, plenty are who have stories eerily similar to their own lives and its incredibly painful to watch chats devolve around generalizations about abuse victims.
Doesn't seem odd to me that the defense attorney wants to know what was posted.
New member today! Considering how much I watch your shows, it was time to make it official!
How come it could not be the Swan mentally abusing Doug. Sociopathic behavior would cause a sane person to act in a manner that is not normally their behavior.
Yes
He punched out his dog, shot off a gun inside because he was angry, and punched holes in the wall.
PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR! What you're talking about is classic blaming the victim!
@@tracyholden5787yes, people are responsible for their own behaviour but there is such a thing as reactive violence. I know someone and his ex would push and push, phone the police and they would turn up just in time for him to react back while she acted all sweet and innocent.
We have no idea if that happened in this case because Doug isn't here to tell his side of things. IMO this is probably what happened but I have nothing but a gut feeling and bits of evidence
@@tracyholden5787Exactly ! Those actions are violent and frightening . Why are people ignoring that ?
@@tracyholden5787 you do realize he never hit her though. If you’ve even been around a sociopathic woman a man can be brought to act out due to the consistent push and pull mental and phycological abuse they do to their victims.
It's been a while since the Depp trial - still my go to for recaps
It seems the state hasn’t done a very good job of informing and instructing their witnesses about the rules.
Watching this trial live with Melanie Little. Loving the recap bc im trying to wotk during day and miss a lot!
Several people commented that the victim's attorney who testified (hot ink dress and asked to be released but wasn't) also went on Court TV after testifying.
She can do what she wants as long as she doesn't talk about this case.
I wouldn't put it pass her, she really didn't want to testify again.
I thought she went on Court TV before her testimony. She's already in a lot of trouble for committing perjury in this case.
@@PhoebeMc there is NO PROOF she committed perjury. The disgusting defense attorney has ONE EMAIL from days before the hearing. You have no idea if there were emails after that changed the details, or if that email was accurate. Did you even watch the hearing after court today?
I just searched exhaustively and there is no such interview. They may have replayed something that aired previously.
Yes yes YESSSSS! Your daily time management tips PLEASE!!!
It’s REALLY hard for me to get over the fact that he never physically assaulted her prior to the night of the shooting, and at most bumped into her that evening. Even knowing he has fired a gun into the ceiling (we have to take her word it was purposeful on his part to intimidate her) and had punched a hole in a wall, if he doesn’t have a history of hitting her I have to take a leap to believe he suddenly wanted to beat or kill her that day. Also that video of her and her mom with him did NOT seem like a woman pretending to like him out of fear. She was relaxed and when she laughed (genuinely at that) she even had throat exposure by tilting her head back, which is a vulnerable movement a person in fear of the person sitting across from them wouldn’t do. None of this is adding up for me. Oh, and why didn’t she call 911 herself? The threat had been neutralized so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me that she would run to “safety” when the threat was gone. It would have made sense if he had hit her and she escaped. Or if her phone had been broke and she needed to borrow someone else’s to call the police. But going to a neighbors almost seems like she didn’t want to have to call 911 herself and explain it. She knew if she went next door the guy would call for her. That’s a potential reason she did that. Idk. I want her to take the stand and explain it to me Convince me why she felt the need to grab her gun, and why shooting him was the only option. I’ve seen so many women lie about abuse, so I know they’re capable of it, and it’s tainted me for believing other women when there isn’t substantial evidence.
…Shooting a gun in anger and punching hole(s) in the wall is not substantial evidence of abuse?
To me, shooting a gun constitutes an unspoken threat of murder.
Good thing you wouldn’t be on the jury being “tainted”.
Punching their dog unconscious is abuse. Firing a gun to stop you from talking is abuse .
from what i heard, the gunshot into the ceiling episode happened when ashleigh violated eva's privacy by reading her diary, then took it to doug trying to get eva into trouble. (if i recall correctly she told him "you're supposed to pick me" over his own daughter.) she wouldn't let it go and kept ranting about it after he asked her to drop it several times. finally out of frustration he warned her if she didn't stop he would fire the gun. she kept yelling at him about eva so he fired into the ceiling. it's a terrible thing to do and i'm not trying to justify it, but i wouldn't consider that as a viable threat on her life.
@@vvnnation No. Neither would I.
@@reefshadow1 Shootng a gun in the air automatically means unspoken threat of murder?? Yeah I’m not seeing that. He’d never even physically touched her. Also I don’t know why you left a petty comment saying I shouldn’t be on the jury when I never once said I would convict her. Or that as a juror I couldn’t be unbiased. I said it’s tainted me in that now I have to question every woman who comes forward with those type of claims and dubious evidence. (Those thoughts shouldnt even enter my head!!!!). That’s not the same as me saying I automatically assume she’s guilty. Also there’s a distinct difference between leaning toward thinking someone is guilty , and actually finding her guilty as a juror. I haven’t watched the entire trial so I can’t say for sure what I would do. And I also haven’t heard the defense yet. But based on the recaps I’ve gotten from Peter’s I would actually find her NOT guilty at this point. Because I’m not convinced the state has proven she wasn’t in fear for her life. Even though I lean toward thinking she’s lying. There’s just way too many inconsistencies. (Though the defense might answer some of those.). Anyway him shooting a gun to make a point was clearly wrong, but it also wasn’t a direct threat on her. Especially with the explanation of what happened from the other commenter here. You have a right to believe that, I have a right to disagree. But let’s not act like children.
I've lived through a very similar situation. My parents, I lived day in and out for 18 years. I wish so bad I could explain. My dad acted out very similar but it was out if frustration
We sort of joke about social media being addictive. I think is is an example of the addiction.
The fact that you called that section “oops glitching” is hilarious! 😂
Women exiting dangerous relationships often have to "play house" to keep safe as they exit.
@@jts3505 she did not live with him. She lived with her mother.
She’d left three years earlier without incident. They’d been living apart for three years and in those years nothing happened, even when she responded to *his* filing for divorce by alleging he was sexually abusing their 2 year old baby.
No one would fault her for leaving him and getting a divorce. Instead of going to galas with him while accusing him of poisoning her she could have made a clean break. It’s very weird that in three years apart where they had these insane proceedings and she dated /got engaged to someone else he didn’t react with anything approaching violence and somehow the night she invites him over and kills him was the night he suddenly tries to attack her. There’s nobevidenve he came in contact with her at all.
An asshole can still be a murder victim, that’s what’s happened here.
@@DJ-hf1zothat’s true but she wasn’t “playing house” because they didn’t live together
Absolutely
I saw something about this case a long time ago and he ended up spending all his money on her and then losing it all. From what I recall the evidence implied that she killed him but it has been long time.
She manipulated him by how she got him to reverse his vasectomy and he got the balet company she was not even a month pregnant and moved.in with her mother and played games with him said he was poisoning her ,she had bloodwork, baby had bloodwork, she had drinks tested there was no poisoning. She moved to change jurisdictions and tried ot again. The time they were together before she got pregnant she fought consistently with him that he would choose his daughtwr over her. Ahe never would sign divorce papers but said she was trying to get away from him. She didnt want him involved once she got pregnant. She told him they were moving together and that day changed it up started a fightband killed him cause all of her previous shit dodnt work. She is very pro gun and carried them regularly. This woman is lying and she murdered that man in cold blood .
There is a lot of misinformation in your statement , but it was him who dumped her at her mother’s.
@BlackStump172 she lured him to his death,he didn't dump her at her mothers🤣
It's not manipulative to ask your husband to reverse their vasectomy if you are a woman who wants a child. It was ultimately HIS decision to do that.
@DOLfirst his vasectomy was reversed, she was pregnant fast,moved with her mom,Doug's dead. I'm not talking about other women ,I'm talking about Ashley
@@mandolyn well, other married couples split up when they are expecting a child. Perhaps it was because the husband was abusive..
Great recaps. Ty. Im also glad this trial is moving quickly.
I don't see DV as a defense from the evidence thus far. She shot him to death from a away and that is what seems relevant right now. So I really need the defense lawyers to set this up her DV position more effectively.
And one of the times was when he was facing away from her.
Ok so I was thinking correctly. The daughter has been making tik toks saying that her dad was murdered for no good reason and that this woman was awful. But then the trial shows that he obviously had aggressive scary behavior. This is a hard one
That's the same daughter that her father didn't respect her enough to tell her before he moved a complete stranger new wife into the home with her. It's the same daughter that said yes she knew how the bullet hole got in the kitchen roof and the fist punch hole in the kitchen wall. So I don't believe she didn't know about her father's temper. But afyer he died it's easy to forget all that and all of a sudden this man was such a saint. My ex was violent behind closed doors, his family knew, but when he died he suddenly became this holier than now saint.
@@mandystone3005Perhaps she is enjoying the attention and the vulnerable position of the defendant who was the interloper into her home . Revenge feels good .
@BlackStump172 Don't get me wrong I have understanding that she was not happy to have this women in her recently deceased moms house, she was a child then but now at 24, the age AB was when she moved in, I think she can look back and see that her father did that. AB was not just someone that walked in off the street and forced her and her dad to let her live there, her father did that and just told her afterwards. Even that shows that he was controlling and did what he wanted because no one else's opinion mattered. His daughter said that in those first months she moved in her friend as well. Now imagine you're AB and the daughter hates you and then another teenager moves in without you having any say. I bet you the 2 of them did what teenagers did to the wicked unwanted stepmother and ganged up on her. The daughter in her Tik Tok said she was a complete brat because she hated having AB in her mom's house.
I see all the comments arguing whether Ashley’s behaviour, words, actions, tone, facial expressions etc. are indicative of her being a DV victim trying to survive vs a manipulative liar trying to cover up her guilt. But for me, I’m not overly interested in digging into that, at this point. That’s simply because, for me, I can be 100% convinced a person is guilty, and would still feel compelled to vote not guilty if the state had not met their burden of proof. And personally, I don’t feel the prosecution have done that.
They put forward a motive - the imminent release of the psych assessments - that they didn’t prove beyond reasonable doubt, and that their own witnesses cast doubt on.
They knew, from the 911 call that Ashley claimed it was self defense, but provided no meaningful evidence to counter that claim.
And their own witnesses were the ones who testified to things like bullet holes in the ceiling, and fist marks in the walls with no credible suggestion that they were caused by anyone but Doug during violent outbursts.
Do I think it’s possible that Ashley is a manipulative liar who murdered her husband to keep her baby from him, and tried to pass that murder off as self defense? Definitely I think that’s possible.
But have the state proven that beyond a reasonable doubt? Definitely not. I don’t think they have done enough to show motive, and to rule out self defense. May they get there on rebuttal? It’s possible I suppose, but at this point, it’s a very big ask, in my opinion.
Love this judge he is no nonsense
#1- Re: Eva… she stated she only briefly spoke about her EMOTIONS, not the trial, with the reporter & posting a tiktok video ISN’T violating the admonition bc once again, she isn’t conversing with others about the trial… she was posting her thoughts & feelings. Now if a juror/witness watched it, THATS a violation against the juror or other witness.
Do you really think she didn't watch the videos in her feed nor anything else pertaining to this trial if she took the time to post 3 TikTok videos? She's 23yo. This trial is going to be a week not 3 months If courts just start allowing this type of action, the line gets more blurred.
I paid attention when the judge read the instructions to the next witness and she was right. Ashley and her lawyer are obsessed with her. I’ve never seen a defense that attacks victims and the jurors see that ok. If they call her again, that won’t go well. Still in the afternoon the lawyer kept asking for sanctions, disgusting, even the judge told him he is in a fishing expedition.
@@lhr8833 did you not watch the Karen Read trial? The defense attacked everyone.
@@Kkay2490 Apparently you are the one that didn’t watch. The defense didn’t even cross the family and friends that were not in the house. The “friends” that are framing her deserved being exposed. Actually, even one of the main witnesses, since she didn’t seem like faking anything in the stand, they didn’t cross her, Kary. You should go and rewatch.
@@lhr8833😂 kr is the only 1 responsible for John's death. She was the obsessed , aggressive and abusive drunk that decided to drive and back in to John.
I saw that deer in the headlights look when the lawyer asked about looking at her phone.
No, the state hasn’t proven their case as right now.
They have rested so they haven't proven their case, period. No right now about it.
She shot at him 4 times. She wasn’t trying to stop him. She wanted him dead. She took matters into her own hands. I believe she said that to someone.?
I like this girl, the decedent's daughter. I feel sorry for her. Right or wrong I would still say that what she said was wrong but I still hope they show her compassion.
Love LYK coverage. The best!!
How can she get away with not testifying after that opening statement? Not in my State. You can't just concoct a story without some form of evidence. For example, is her lawyer the only guy on the planet who knows Doug's "Ninja" dance? She supposedly has not told the story to ANYONE, sans her attorney since that day. Are we buying that? "If it doesn't make sense, it isn't true" ~ Judge Judy🧑⚖
I'll have to watch it again, but I remember thinking several times, how is that coming in without her testimony? Kill the guy, then just pretend it never happened? I have little doubt this is not a classic self-defense case but convicting her on this is going to be tough.
Using her phone to see the posts that she made on a social media platform is not violation of her privacy, esp since she admitted to posting about her testimony, and because she put it out there for people to see. If it was something she wanted to keep private, she wouldn’t have posted it to TikTok. 8:17
There is so much that went on with this couple that is not a part of this trial. I'm never sure if this exclusion is good or bad.
Like what?
Is because her case is not a battled spouse syndrome case. That is why every time he tries to enter that, the judge stops him. He knows he is doing it wrong. Her defense is self defense, that has nothing to do with history, you can have a self defense case with a stranger. What matters is what happens at the moment of the incident and that the defendant can show they had a reasonable belief of being in danger at the moment. He cannot try two different cases at the same time, throwing all the spaghetti to see what sticks.
@@lhr8833💯
@@lhr8833However dv cases are not a one size fits all. You cannot just ignore the history in their relationship when it was the sum of that history that might have let her to believe her fave would end up like the wall in his house.
I do believe the judge was low key trying to get her to testify if she wanted that evidence to come in.
Once was enough, two times seemed fishy.
@@fernandaolivares7926 For the love of God, listen to Peter, he said that for the purposes of self defense that is not entered during the prosecution case. He literally explained it here, you just have to listen.
PETER!! Can you please cover any future disciplinary actions taken against Kari Morrissey from the Alec Baldwin trial for her great prosecutorial misconduct. THANK YOU! Love your channel!!!
1:03:14 this defense atty is the type that I find hard to believe even if they were defending the grass being green
If you’re afraid then yes you would try to keep that person happy even though you’re terrified. She was trying to figure out how to be safe
That doesn’t work for the argument that she was pretending to officials that she wanted to move with Doug but was telling Doug no she wasn’t moving with him and didn’t want to work on the relationship.
If she feared him, the lie would be spun the other way.
That wasn’t the actions and words of a woman walking on eggshells.
Dateline has a good episode on this. Ashley was quite calculating
Watching live each day with RA then getting Peters opinion after. For those who want to know what the daughters TikTok posts were after she was on the stand, RA looked them up almost immediately and told us what they said/were about. I’m still torn at this point. Hearing some of the stuff the defense has tried to get in, but judge won’t allow seems she may have been the victim of DV. I had a past partner that was controlling so I get “go along get along” mentality. I can see Ashley playing nice over texts to just keep the peace while telling others she was done. Long story short I’m not convinced one way or another yet. I have however learned so much during this trial with the judge making so many decision on camera with the jury excused. I absolutely love this judge, don’t agree with all his rulings but still love him.
your coveragd is quite different from all the other channels-it is almost like a different trial
My problem is The Police & The Child Protection didn't take her problems seriously, so to me that makes the Defenses Case Stronger, cause No one was helping her deal with his threats & antics.
Her TikToks had nothing to do with the case. Two were about her business and one was thanking people for their support.
watching this as the trial resumes......i believed ashley while i was listening to her. BUT when i looked at her, after then intense testimony, when they allowed her time to pull herself together, that is NOT the face of someone who had that type of emotional breakdown. the face does not match someone crying like that. also, tears? snot? she didn't even ask for a tissue. this is a very good actor. i had an abusive husband, she is imitating someone like me, but the physical part, the face, does not match.
after i cried those types of tears of grief, your face changes for a while. the eyelids are very puffy, red, if you have make up on its all over your face, and you must have tissues, im calling this out as fake, she does not seem real, she seems like she is imitating someone like me, who was actually physically abused.
also, i am noticing that she is off the stand, in a chair, and she is sneaking looking around, like fast, this is totally fake. if you have an emotional breakdown like this, it is humiliating and you do not want to look around at anyone or anything.
like i said, i believed her, just listening, but then watching her, the face doesn't match the emotional sobbing, this is not right.
remember, she has "artsy" training, acting, etc.
Nice shirt!❤
Thank you Peter!!