Yamaha HS8 vs JBL 308P MKII || Sound & Frequency Response Comparison
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-Sound recorded using pair of SE Electronics SE8 mics and Zoom H6 recorder
-Frequency measurements done in semi treated room using UMIK-1 microphone
-Levels matched using SPL meter
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You do a great comparison. Thank you
Interesting how close their frequency response is and yet they sound very different, mostly in the midrange. Yamaha wins in clarity but to my ears, the JBL have got more bass impact.
same
the more i listen to hs8 with the tracks mortals and deep the more i fall in love...
Great comparison! I was all ready to order the JBL 308P based on your earlier videos of the JBL 305P and 306P. Although the 308's goes deeper than the other two it sounds like an entirely different speaker. So much so it made me wonder if something was wrong with it????
Excellent comparison. Thank you.
Yamaha! The mid highs sound more real, more like original sountrack
No
@@megakebab1702 yes
@@amermeleitor not really no
Something off with jbls upper mids, yamaha sound clear and present there. HS8s top end is a little sharper.
Great vid man. thx a lot!
Thanks for this now I understand my JBL speaker more than before.
Great comparison as always. Yamaha sounds the better of the two to me. What speaker stands do you use and could you recommend one?
Well it seems that these Yamahas are the king of value monitors...A force to recon with...GOOD LUCK!
FUNNY THING..i PURCHASED KALI IN8'S...LOL
HS8 or Eris E8XT? Help me decide.
Nice work. Valuable assessment
Having heard both IRL, I would advise any Yamaha buyer to listen in person before buying, because I found the Yamaha tweeter to be shrill and harsh. YMMV, but be aware. I will say the 8" Yamaha is a much better package than their 5" though, the 5" seemed to lack low end while the 8" just added it to a strong mid-high without unbalancing the presentation.
This i totally agree to. Also i find the Yamaha to sound shrill & harsh. Mind you: i love the way this channel is giving as accurate as possible impressions of how monitors compare, especially now during the pandemic, but in real life the speakers sound very different than can be heard this way. It's imperative to listen to monitors in person with music you thoroughly know.
what about the jbl?
Like the sound of jbl
@@Gman4MF shrill/harsh on some content, perfect on other. that is the eternal compromise
@@Gman4MF did you test the -2 treble switch
The Yamahas seem to beat the JBL’s in these comparisons (JBL is much better in the Jazz Cajon track) the mids in the Metalhead track very different, Yamaha matches the source.
But the upper coloration audible in the jazz track is why I prefer the 308 JBL’s when A/B’ing in person - the warmth is less fatiguing when working in front of them a long time, and I still feel like I can hear everything well. I think I liked the JBLs on the violin too.
More air in the Yamahas, the reverbs in the more electro stuff sounds better. The Yamahas also emphasize the compressor breathing on that last track more, which is interesting. They may be more responsive to dynamics than the JBLs
Great demo. I’m listening via Bluetooth to an Onkyo 2.0 to Klipsch KG4 in my untreated living room.
It would be amazing if you eventually performed some reproducible *side-to-side motion of the listener position* in these recordings. I believe that would provide a much more immersive sense of how the speakers sound in-room, as well as providing important clues about directivity characteristics.
Imagine a collaboration with some of the mechanical geniuses on TH-cam to build a machine that would quietly move the recording gear side to side... Just try moving it around by hand first to see if it's worthwhile!
I currently own a pair of 305ps but looking into upgrading to the HS8s it'll suit all kinds of music I make and listen to. What drives them is my S.M.S.L AMP and what's stacked with the amp is my Focustrite 2i2 Interface. Blanaced cables all round.
Love the HS8, probably the best monitorboxen you can get under 600 euro
You mention tone controls being at neutral, is that on the speakers only? Are the speakers fed straight from a DAC or is anything being done upstream, like your favorite EQ setting for the room, or something like Dirac?
In my opinion, the jbl's sound nicer, with a more present sound. the yamaha's have a more harsh in-your-face type sound.
JBL has a slightly pushed middle, but maybe with long and loud listening this will be a plus. Yamaha is more tonally correct.
Could you test Edifier R1000T4? They've got 24W RMS compared to the previous R1000's 16W. Thanks for your work, it's been so useful so far.
If you look at the frequency graph, there is a dip at 1.4 kg. This being heard quite clearly in your video. There is a hollow effect in the mids. That could be a problem because you will compensating for that dip, and your mix will sound too "mid forward".
What I don’t understand is the frequency comparisons are pretty much dead on yet there is a significant difference in the high ends of the two?
In the end it's not the on-axis response that matters, but how uniform the off-axis respons is. If the off-axis response is uniform, then you can EQ the on-axis response so that it's completely flat. If the speaker doesn't behave itself off-axis however, then you're screwed.
it will be interesting to make fr correction with sonarworks and blind test both monitors.
Help me please, which one is better for enjoy music and better sound stageing?
My question is, do they have ambient noise when no signal is present? I currently own a pair of HS8's, I used them in my studio for a couple of years, then decided to go a different direction, ultimately I put them in my living room to watch TV and play games, with a Rokit 10 Sub. The Wow factor is impressive! The sub has to be turned way down unless I'm home alone, just sayin'. The HS8's have a signal noise that is annoying even with my Monster Power stage 2 HTS3600 MKII. I'm curious if the JBL's do that as well? There is a lot of noise in electricity that is different in different localities, I also wonder if MP is full of crap.
Amigo os seus monitores fica com chiado contaste quando liga ?
For rear field JBL does the job..half the price of HS 8..for near field I'm using MSP 5 for mix n very comfortable with it..
I'm a JBL owner but for this, I give it to the HS8. Smoother and more presence in the upper mids compared to JBL's scooped upper-mid sound.
scooped upper mid imho is better. That's where your leads/vocals need to stand out and yamaha already gives you the pressence there making your mix sound flat on other systems.
@@charlestsaitrance if you mix vocals on JBL they will never sound detailed enough on those monitors, you barely hear reverbs and delays 🤦🏻♂
@@srfrover that's not untrue but vocals is 1 element of let's say at least 10 elements in a single production song/track. You may feel satisfied with the vocals but the whole track's tonal balance is basically off (from my experience) if I did the whole mix/mastering on the yamahas. JBLs are much more useful to me. If I need to hear the very nuanced details, I use headphones, I don't want the yamahas to confuse me.
@@charlestsaitrance I get what you are saying but maybe you just don’t like how Yamaha sounds and you start cutting and adding stuff
@@srfrover maybe it's all to each their own. But the yamahas can be so harsh that yes it may sound accurate but you lose the magic within the 2nd or 3rd listen where your ears can hear false perceptions. It may be a topic of psychoacoustics which I think the JBL have done a lot better. Anyways, it also depends on what kind of music you're doing. Yamahas are absolutely great for most things but not for bass/hats heavy dance tracks that requires robust mixdown and mastering.
The ultimate matchup I was waiting for, thank you.
As expected. HS8 very accurate, 308P muffled
Not for me.. more retrieval and layers in the 308's, Reverb is a BUNCH on the yamahas but washes it out to me,, I've got the 308's I'll keep'em
@@wicasawakan9207 I have the 308p as well. I never regretted it because it was dirty cheap, and it actually has amazing stereo image, but the muffled FR is something I notice in my place as well. Sonarworks worked amazingly for fixing the frequency response in mine though. I'm also keeping them.
I think I notice a slight background hiss on this video. Is that the speakers?
JBL 308P MKII || Forever!!!
what song is the "metal head" one? cant find it anywhere
Could you please try the M-audio BX8 D3 vs HS8
barefootsound footprint 01 vs JBL 308P. Any plan?
Thanks!
Could you do some comparisons with the kanto yu/yu4s 💛
How far are thos mics from the speakers?
I think both are very close but there is more clear mids in Yamaha
Audioengine 2+ versus icloud mini please..
I like both of them for the size
It will nice for minimalis setup desk
El sonido del Jbl esta mas plano a la hora de reproducir la cancion..el Yamaha suena mas a trompeta..el Jbl da en general mas frecuencias de medío graves y el Yamaha de medio agudos...si tienes los oídos sucios sin limpiar te aconsejo los Yamaha que dan mas brillo..los dos son fiables al sonido a la hora de componer...La solución esta encambiar un altavoz a cada uno ponerle el grave al Yamaha y el twiter agudo al JBL....bien animo con todas las cosas y vayamos todos con alegrías...
I have used Jbl 308p...they Produce a Hissing sound which u can Notice when working in a Sound proof Area and using them as near field Monitors... I did check with the Company, that Hissing sound is found in all Jbl 305,306 and 308s apparently a Flow in the product, which is very irritating especially to the music producers...I wonder why no reviewer is Mentioning it especially when it is absolute deal breaker...
most monitors have that. Thats normal
You need balanced cables dude
I love this channel, but I think there's something wrong with the recording of the JBLs. The Yamaha have a lot of clarity in the mids, it's true, but the JBL also have a lot of presence in the mid-highs. They don't as muffled as they seem here.
I hope you can re-do this comparison.
I felt the same. I've had the 305P for a few years and am quite familiar with their sound, and it's hard to imagine the 308's being this starkly different in sound. Interesting.
How to control volumes of two JBL 305P MKIIs simultaneously without a discrete audio interface? I know that the rising UP/ lowering DOWN the computer system volume isn't the best practice at all... Because, it degrades the audio signal-to-noise ratio and the sound lost its details... So, what is the proper solution?
Wanna know the answer too.
HS8's do sound better but there is a $179.00 price difference. You can almost buy 4 JBL's for that price. If you're mixing then go with Yamaha. If your just listening then go with the JBL's and EQ to taste.
Then you will have 4 shitty speakers hahah
@@alexg8957 LOL It's the upper end of crappy. I'd lean toward decent. :-)
Notei que os Yamaha abrem melhor os super agudos. I noticed that Yamahas open the super treble better.
Goes to show you can’t judge speakers based on TH-cam videos. So many people commenting how the Yamahas sound more accurate but measurements clearly show the Yamahas are outclassed by the JBL speakers.
Interesting how much more pronounced the mids are on the Yamaha versus the JBLs. Fanscinating as well, how music that was devoid of overly pronounced mids, sounded much more similar between them. When a pronounced mid range came into play, with other styles of music the difference was striking.
For me, winner on sound = Yamaha. Winner on budget?? Hard to say, as the JBL's are quite a bit cheaper out where I am.
Ya these new one suck ass ! the older one's before this, were much better.
On audiosciencereview, the JBL 308p measured great, except for a dip at 1.6khz. Maybe that's the same midrange difference you noticed.
I am at Brazil, hier the pair of JBL 308 is USD 200,00 less then Yahama HS8, this is a significant price difference. I had heard it twice, with Sennheiser HD 650 and AKG K270 and Yamaha sound a littler better, but the price differece is a big factor.
Eu definitivamente gastaria mais 200 pelo HS8
@@migks37 são 200 dólares, em reais perto de 1.000,00.
Both are best ...this is all are depends on your ears and work ...bcz jbl is also the oldest company ...and trustfully company ... even jbl is cheapest on similar of yamha.... yamha is great ...but if jbl company is made this speaker they are also good
HS8 sounds great !
wow.. hs8 almost similar compare to reference track
JBL is Great performance..👍👍
are the yamaha's worth nearly twice the price?
Yamaha is much smoother in the highs I feel.
JBL got the tweeter wrong on this one....shame, as forunder half the cost of the HS8s, they'd be a great bargain... plus a side or down port rather than a rear port at the top, above all the electronics, must have meant compromises...
Why does everyone compare the sound from the monitors to the direct track? That's not the point in evaluating a monitor that you use while mixing.
is there any chance you can get the presonus R65's for the test? They are selling great at Thomann at the moment because of the discount in price and I think from my personal experience they are on par with speakers twice the price such as the ADams a7x. Would be great if you can get a hand on those. Long time viewer of the channel, gj!
I do not say NO, but I have no plans for them at the moment
Do they have any white noise issue if use in a small room???
@@QwertyQwerty-tp1pd there is a slight white noise if you keep them within 1meter
i have hs8 best moniter ever
I heard these face to face and the Yam’s smoke them. I like the jbl for a budget start up, but overall my choice is hs8. If you have the money Focal Aloha 80’s
Don't get me wrong I am a big fan of my LSR305p's but the Yamaha hands down gets this one between the two for the 8inch battle. Not a fan of the LSR308's, I'd take my 305p's over them all day every day as well
The YAMAHAs appear to sound a lot closer to the source material, but for literally TWICE the price I certainly hope they would.
My big question is this: if the Yamahas are their usual traditional bright as heck then you might get fatigued by that and end up making mixes that are duller in the upper mids and would end up sounding like what we heard on the JBLs here.
HOWEVER, if you mixed on the JBLs and you didn’t experience upper mid range fatigue, then your mixes would end up sounding like the YAMAHAs here… AND like all the source recordings.
Hmmmm…isn’t it interesting the way THAT works out?
(This is the basics of studio monitoring. 👍😘👍)
let me answer shortly.... I have JBL LSR305 from 4 years now and I started mixing well only 1 year ago when I started not boosting things and getting used to not hearing things (😂)... The problem of these monitors are not just the frequencies but the fact that they sound inconsistent and light on the mids and highs so you will also boost a lot of volume in compression to hear things well on these monitors. After these 4 painful years I switched to Hs8 and I will gladly be more fatigued while mixing to sound good everywhere else 🙂
Hs8 totally killed the JBL , love mine ❤️ the legendary standerd ❤️
In the beginning yes. But the last couple songs it was closer
@@RockCity1111 Yes i agree with you JBL got that real world glued sound without popping i love that too 🙂 and i've heard that the previous version was better than the newer ones 🤔 finally it all comes to the personal preference 🙂 Hs8 is unforgiving 😶 but throws the truth
HS8 for me
HS8 better
No..
And BTW FYI, if you want to hear incredible sound, put in some new air pods... That is a reference sound.
Question: Anyone who has the HS8 sub, is it needed?
can you record with zoom h6 for extra good mic quality?😊
10khz dip always sounds bad to me.
hs8 is tremendous for the price
Yamaha for me
Hs8 little too harsh & high mids too loud, 308 high mids too low but sound more natural, especially voice. Both are best low budget for audiomonitoring in my opinion.
yamaha much better
Nope
hs8 for sure XD
Yamaha FTW !!!!
Yamaha win
No way man. I had em both jbl have decent mids for tech and electronic very close to yams and also have better less fatique feel to the ear over time. Smth is wrong with yours.
Yamaha
Yamaha sound much better in the 8” version
HS8❤
JBL por el precio ❤
Yamaha's are close to the source track
Yamaha much better for metal.... JBL has a 10khz dip that isn't good
Yamaha😘😍
damn now i'm sad that i bought the JBL's
WELL, THE YAMAHA'S ARE A TAD BRIGHTER..BUT.. THE JBL HAS A MORE TRUE MIDRANGE EXPRESSION.
The yamahas sounds better when compared cause its brighter and the upper mids are pushed, so it sounds more exciting. But the JBLs actually have a flatter frequency response.
Yup
Jbl I have a pair of them
JBL 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yamaha is the best
Not too much difference between this two . Price based jbl is better if you want better just go to genelec
Its Very Well, the JBL 308P
in all comparisons the JBLs loose, but for me here is the first video where the Yamahas win! XD
Yamaha all the way I have hs5
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ugh these JBLs are terrible! I just saw some of these on sale at guitar center for $200 / speaker and based upon this sound recording I would say they aren't even worth that. I'd much rather spend ~ $700 on the HS8s than $400 on the 308ps.... I think you would be better off going Adam T7V for $500 / pair as that is quite a great value.
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