Last one opens up the possibility to establish a "gas station" for batteries. Where instead of charging the batteries you change the depleted ones for fully charged ones, and pay the charging cost alone. It would significantly reduce time at a charging station, as well as create an "insurance" for companies to charge for the batteries, which could make them more motivated to create this kind of business model
Thank you for your insights. I watched this after having put down a deposit on a metacycle. I am 70 yrs old and and the Sondors bike will be perfect for a 10 ml trip town as I own a gas guzzling Mercedes ML 320. Also like to point out that I rode big Honda motorbikes in my youth but at my age I think I’ll be safer on a metacycle!
You really needed a section for availability. Where can you buy it and who is it available to? Only US , only EU? For example, SuperSoco doesn't have a US distributor so you'll have to do a private import. Saves us a lot of time looking up if it's available in out country or not.
I totally agree on your top 2 although I would definitely not strip the F77, however cool it also looks under the skin. It's still not in full production though and I wonder if it will ever hit Europe at a decent (enough) price. I am patiently waiting though! I like the concept of the Metacycle as well but it is still a bit too meagre in power and range. More of a starting point indeed! Great frame though.
If anyone is interested, NKD in this video is filmed in Sydney, Australia - they are our trains in the background. Looks like might be around Eveleigh old rail yards.
@@321findus don't need sarcasm like your ass in a comment. It's a simple question and yes I know it was there I was more interested in purchasing it and needed a link which I have now as well.
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The rider on the f77 pulling out of the garage looks really huge on that bike. Like it's a smaller bike than the metacycle or they made the mistake of putting a tall rider on. Not sure. Being in the US, my reservation is for the metacycle.
You can get a good used GPZ1100 for under 2 grand. 0-60 in 2,8 secs. 1/4 miles in the 10's. They always start and run great. 145hp. Since you save 4 grand, you can buy well over a 1000 gals of fuel for the savings. That is years and years of free riding on your savings. Range unlimited.
You can soon buy an all electric Mini Cooper, an affordable all electric motorcycle, and rent a vehicle better for long trips. It will likely be much better in a few years, for charger availability especially for apartments, and no coal and less natural gas used to make the electricity.
@5:06 “3 modular batteries, each one being 4.2 kWh”....actually they are 1.4 kWh each, 4.2 kWh total, not 12.6 kWh total. It has a 1kw charger and takes an hour to charge.
@@baevere “The Ultraviolette F77 uses a pack of three lithium-ion batteries, with a total capacity of 4.2Kwh. This battery pack is further mated to a 25Kw electric motor.”
I’m 6’3” and a big dude pretty close to 300 lbs …I feel like a lot of bikes just don’t work with my body size …any suggestions on bikes I should look at ….would like an electric but am open to gas too
Is your video editor on MDNA or something?-It's ridiculous trying to showcase these bikes when the clips are often just a second or so long. at 0.53 I gave up.
It doesn't matter because you can't actually buy any of these right now. Zero and the other ultra high end manufacturers are basically your only option that is in stock anytime soon.
sondors metacycle is now $6k. Seems a bit steep for me considering is a hub motor. Lots of mid drive solutions out there now. I like the 4kwh battery though and for city commuting hub motors will get the job done, but just prefer mid drives.. especially in this price range
Why do you refer to battery capacity in amps? That tells us nothing. We need to know either Amp Hours or Watt Hours to know what the capacity of the battery is.
At about :35 it screamed some kind of really really loud whinny crappy noise, so I clicked it away - but came back only to leave this comment. It's not worth the gamble that it won't be repeated between every bike shown.
Great video..I personally think hub motor is better as it removes chain-breaking issues etc. the #1 pic would be a perfect fit for me if it had a hub motor so opt#2 wins me overall. Again great video
I own a hub motor electric motorcycle and it is a super smooth and compact solution. The 2 wheel bearings are the only moving parts of the entire drive train ! Its a nominal 8kW motor with an efficiency of 80-90% which means around 1kW is heat loss. My motor is sealed and it slowly overheats after 20-30 km. They need to be liquid cooled.
@@0141star I had a mid motor planned and purchased already but ditched it for an 8kW hub to have more space for the battery. The additional unsprung weight is not noticable. Acceleration from stand still is sluggish first. Biggest issue is heat, they need liquid cooling. I would NEVER fit a chain because of the Grease and NOISE.....just NASTY on an E-bike. Hub motored vehicle are almost silent and maintenance free too.
@@moestrei True. I have a Horwin (mid, chain) and my girlfriend has a super soco tc max (hub, belt). I prefer the Super Soco because it's much more quiet. I have no issues with cooling, not even with a double battery.
Denzel electric cafe racer starts at 5200 on their website, not exactly 3000... the metacycle and the ultraviolette are the only ones with interesting specs for anyone with motorcycle background. and interesting price too, but only preorder... I'm not taking my chance, I'll wait till they are actually available and will see the real price, not the crowdfunding price.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace See, there is that question in the FAQ: "Is the F77 a budget motorcycle?" Answer: "Well, some people consider the iPhone a budget phone.." Does not sound cheap to me! 4k is the preorder fee.
In regards to the first bike presented: why would “elevation“ change range? Elevation has a substantial role in determining fuel efficiency of “petrol burning” vehicles, but not so much “electric vehicles”.... “temperature” highly determines range with electric vehicles. I watch the video again. Maybe you mean “% grade” (slope of road) , not “elevation”
Less performance for the Metacycle? Were you confusing the specs with the previous 3 bikes? It can go up to 80mph and 80 miles on a charge...for $5000! (plus, I like the minimalistic and futuristic design).
The Denzel Racer literally starts off at $5,200 on their website. The ONLY bike that MAY be under $5,000 is the final bike. And we don't even know for sure yet since they haven't put out the final price. Why not just said under $6,000 since all of these are 5k or over
@@ElectricVehicleSpace Except that 3 of them are listed as 5k or more in the video. The other one almost doubled in price in 6 months? Seems a little crazy
It does look better stripped but will never have a retail of 4K. Wholesale price to distributors maybe. If they can pull this off though Sonders is done
NO JUST NO. Get your audio game correct. I don't know how you did that intro and then when you "get into it" you ear bang us with e-bike noises... why during editting would you think thats good
wow no 1 & 2 ... this is more like it! No one is paying 20,000 for something less than what petrol can deliver ; people will pay 5000 for something nearly as good as a light motorcycle that is electric though.. for sure!
All your bikes are over 5k... and the ones under don't exist and have a high chance they won't even come out! That last bike will definitely cost $9000 in the U.S.
Electric motorcycles are too small. They are fantastic but small. The small size effects the perception of the market. Although many people are sized small, many are not. If you are above 6' and 200 lbs, electric bikes are too small.
@@ok4405 have you seen the Geon Scrampler? It's an electric mock up of the Scrambler. $6000⁰⁰ is their price tag on site and they're taking pre-orders! Only its in the Russian area of the map. Not sure about when they expected not if they truly gonna hit our market. Check it out. GEON electric scrampler motorcycle
I cannot for the life of me find a website or any info on how to buy the ecr v1 by Denzel, or at least no websites that are not insanely sketchy. Help please!
That Denzel has been pushed for years and I have never seen a true review for it anywhere! I don't think they ever actually put the Cafe Racer in production... would like to hear more about it my self. The Metacycle by far seems like the best deal currently weighing reserving one myself.
the numbers are WAY too loud! No joking! Also, why is the title baity? There are many options under 5k and yet most of the bikes in the video are more expensive and/or not available yet!
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Thanks for blowing up my ears
This comment 😂😂 I was thinking the same thing
Yeah it wasn't even funny
For real, only 30 seconds in
Not cool
Seriously i thought the same damm thing
The varying volume levels hurt my ears...
@Caleb King qp
I bout died
Apply the R128 EBU volume normalization
@@ChrisSpiteri A left click to another video solved the problem.
Seriously I downvoted just because of it.
Title has under 5000
Shows ebike at 6000 dollars, nice
Yeah, only two bikes are under $5k. WTH?!?
And one bike that is upto 15k with extras
@@geneb5482
Ya, and that bike isn't even the price he said it was. Go to their website and it starts at $5,200.
Last one opens up the possibility to establish a "gas station" for batteries. Where instead of charging the batteries you change the depleted ones for fully charged ones, and pay the charging cost alone. It would significantly reduce time at a charging station, as well as create an "insurance" for companies to charge for the batteries, which could make them more motivated to create this kind of business model
it would not work because of the vast array of battery configurations
@@Matt-og5kd if they could be standardized (getting lawmakers involved 😱) it would work
They do this on Taiwan and it is great!
Forward-thinking
The last 2 were the best in my opinion 😅😅🌍🌍💨💨💨💨
Thank you for your insights. I watched this after having put down a deposit on a metacycle. I am 70 yrs old and and the Sondors bike will be perfect for a 10 ml trip town as I own a gas guzzling Mercedes ML 320. Also like to point out that I rode big Honda motorbikes in my youth but at my age I think I’ll be safer on a metacycle!
I guess if you can own a Mercedes then you can afford a gallon of gas doing your business. Much safer on 4 wheels.
@@robertangeles9537 hes 70, ride that damn bike lmfao i doubt his kids live with him or anything
56 thinking of getting one myself..
@@robertangeles9537 Bro climate change bro. Incredible some people still don't get it.
top 5 under $5000.
Only 2 under $5000 haha
No. One was $5000 even. There was only one motorcycle under $5000. Definitely misleading.
Be grateful prick. Its free
You really needed a section for availability. Where can you buy it and who is it available to? Only US , only EU? For example, SuperSoco doesn't have a US distributor so you'll have to do a private import. Saves us a lot of time looking up if it's available in out country or not.
There's no way that the number one bike $4,000. I still think the Sondors, number two, is the best bang for your buck.
I totally agree on your top 2 although I would definitely not strip the F77, however cool it also looks under the skin. It's still not in full production though and I wonder if it will ever hit Europe at a decent (enough) price. I am patiently waiting though! I like the concept of the Metacycle as well but it is still a bit too meagre in power and range. More of a starting point indeed! Great frame though.
If anyone is interested, NKD in this video is filmed in Sydney, Australia - they are our trains in the background. Looks like might be around Eveleigh old rail yards.
certo e ai?
Broooooo why didnt you just name this to Bikes around 6k or so. You literally went off course on the 2nd bike and then it gets worse....
What is the number 1 bike called and any link to purchase it
As far as I can tell it's the F77 from Ultraviolette Automotive. It doesn't appear to have firm pricing yet, much less availability.
5:01 It's literally in the video. Now would you like me to tell you how to breathe as well?
@@321findus don't need sarcasm like your ass in a comment. It's a simple question and yes I know it was there I was more interested in purchasing it and needed a link which I have now as well.
Bookings are open in india. (not sure about other countries) delivery is expected to be in August.
@@uchiharv9495 that's what I heard as well didn't get a price but someone said between $4000-5000cnd dollars.
With all that work you put into this video... it's painful to go from soft vocals you loud sound effects. Please normalize your audio levels.
The first bike you showed you claimed $3k.... try tripling that... where are you getting your info? Crackerjack box?
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W💥W
I'm going to get me one of those bikes one day as they run on fresh air, it's so greeeeen 😂
Would you choose a nami or one of these?
In Manhattan parking is expensive a scooter can be taken inside the apartment these motorcycles not so much.
Last one was the best
Fix the sound 0:31
before posting it was not like that... I dont think it can be fixed unless I remove it and repost.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace seems like you've found the solution. :^)
@@ElectricVehicleSpace yes it's better to remove a video this unpleasant
Yep the sound totally sucks goes from low to high give you a headache makes you want to hit that next video on the double
Transition audio is super loud.
Last Indian one is really amazing!
The ultraviolet f77 looks sick!
Check out their website, I have already registered interest on their preorder section👍
@@stethesteguy2093 I did as well, a while ago. But don’t know how soon it’ll come to the US.
@@fearceigknighter Did you watch their launch event it was good.
@@ok4405 Just clips. I wanna see the thing in real life though.
The rider on the f77 pulling out of the garage looks really huge on that bike. Like it's a smaller bike than the metacycle or they made the mistake of putting a tall rider on. Not sure. Being in the US, my reservation is for the metacycle.
So, what is the cheapest electric that allows you to go on the highway (>11Kw)? Have you already made a top 5 of this type?
Very good and informative video. Another Indian company called Emflux is launching their 200km range, 200km/hr top speed bike soon
I just checked them. They have a super cool bike.
Give the link so we can see the bike manufacturers.
I live in Korea. I want to buy an F-77, what should I do?
pre-oders on their website
what's the name of number 1? thank you
I like the idea of the Denzel with a restomod sidecar.
I would appreciate time stamps in the future if possible please, thanks.
You can get a good used GPZ1100 for under 2 grand. 0-60 in 2,8 secs. 1/4 miles in the 10's. They always start and run great. 145hp. Since you save 4 grand, you can buy well over a 1000 gals of fuel for the savings. That is years and years of free riding on your savings. Range unlimited.
When will it hit the USA market.
Really fast and really safe doesn’t really go together lol 5:24 🤣😂
What about spares availablity? Some nice bikes.....also, I think they need a 'town noise' feature to let pedestrians know you're coming.
You can soon buy an all electric Mini Cooper, an affordable all electric motorcycle, and rent a vehicle better for long trips. It will likely be much better in a few years, for charger availability especially for apartments, and no coal and less natural gas used to make the electricity.
I saw electric conversions on Mini already on youtube and it is around 5k.
This is a nice collection of the 5K price range e-motors, thanks!
@5:06 “3 modular batteries, each one being 4.2 kWh”....actually they are 1.4 kWh each, 4.2 kWh total, not 12.6 kWh total. It has a 1kw charger and takes an hour to charge.
What's the name of the manufacturer, Model etc.?
@@baevere
“The Ultraviolette F77 uses a pack of three lithium-ion batteries, with a total capacity of 4.2Kwh. This battery pack is further mated to a 25Kw electric motor.”
I’m 6’3” and a big dude pretty close to 300 lbs …I feel like a lot of bikes just don’t work with my body size …any suggestions on bikes I should look at ….would like an electric but am open to gas too
Try the Honda Fury, i'm sure you wont be dissapointed.
Whats the link for the last 1
looks nice....but honestly, i‘m still waiting for a bike with a fusion-reactor so i just can put in my garbage...😉😅
🤣🤣
Is your video editor on MDNA or something?-It's ridiculous trying to showcase these bikes when the clips are often just a second or so long. at 0.53 I gave up.
Nice list!!! Thanks👍🏽
is there a written list of the bikes included?
there is no list but you can google. Due to inflation the prices are changing as I write.
It doesn't matter because you can't actually buy any of these right now. Zero and the other ultra high end manufacturers are basically your only option that is in stock anytime soon.
These are pretty cool. But I spent just $4k on my modded/tuned VFR800. It goes 160mph and gets 50mpg... Just saying, lol.
Damn bro gotta look at that
sondors metacycle is now $6k. Seems a bit steep for me considering is a hub motor. Lots of mid drive solutions out there now. I like the 4kwh battery though and for city commuting hub motors will get the job done, but just prefer mid drives.. especially in this price range
Why do you refer to battery capacity in amps? That tells us nothing. We need to know either Amp Hours or Watt Hours to know what the capacity of the battery is.
On the #2 pick at least they told us it had a 4000 watt hour battery... Now that tells us what the capacity is.
At about :35 it screamed some kind of really really loud whinny crappy noise, so I clicked it away - but came back only to leave this comment. It's not worth the gamble that it won't be repeated between every bike shown.
Segway audio is too loud.
Do you know what "under" means ??
Thumbs up, but only Just.. you music intro thing is too loud, way Waaay too loud.
These aren't electric bikes, these are electric motorcycles. They are two entirely legally distinct things.
What is the name of the last bike? The indian one
How much is the one one the second place? That's a nice piece of engineering 👌
$5k
The Sonders looks just like Bigfoot’s staple gun with wheels.
So NONE of them available in the USA?
Nothing nowadays is made in US
3 litry na 100km w cyklu mieszanym jeżdżąc ekonomiczne można by zejść do 2litrow to jaki sens ma jezdzidło które ma zasięg 98km?
What’s the name of that last one?
Beware if you're wearing headphones as some portions blast above normal.
Great video..I personally think hub motor is better as it removes chain-breaking issues etc. the #1 pic would be a perfect fit for me if it had a hub motor so opt#2 wins me overall. Again great video
Great point! Thank you.
I own a hub motor electric motorcycle and it is a super smooth and compact solution. The 2 wheel bearings are the only moving parts of the entire drive train ! Its a nominal 8kW motor with an efficiency of 80-90% which means around 1kW is heat loss. My motor is sealed and it slowly overheats after 20-30 km. They need to be liquid cooled.
@@0141star I had a mid motor planned and purchased already but ditched it for an 8kW hub to have more space for the battery. The additional unsprung weight is not noticable. Acceleration from stand still is sluggish first. Biggest issue is heat, they need liquid cooling. I would NEVER fit a chain because of the Grease and NOISE.....just NASTY on an E-bike. Hub motored vehicle are almost silent and maintenance free too.
@@moestrei True. I have a Horwin (mid, chain) and my girlfriend has a super soco tc max (hub, belt). I prefer the Super Soco because it's much more quiet. I have no issues with cooling, not even with a double battery.
@@Johnnybravo.. How many kW on the Super Soco?
Denzel electric cafe racer starts at 5200 on their website, not exactly 3000...
the metacycle and the ultraviolette are the only ones with interesting specs for anyone with motorcycle background. and interesting price too, but only preorder...
I'm not taking my chance, I'll wait till they are actually available and will see the real price, not the crowdfunding price.
They increase prices. The video was posted a while back.
An under 5k video about bikes that are over 5K
Inflation
You should show a surron x 72 volt next time
That last one, no way is it 4k to US. That might be the early bird price.
we will wait and see when they finally start shipping or get close to that.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace
See, there is that question in the FAQ: "Is the F77 a budget motorcycle?" Answer: "Well, some people consider the iPhone a budget phone.."
Does not sound cheap to me! 4k is the preorder fee.
@@fie1329 idk we will have to wait
@@fie1329 4K is not preorder, it's from an Indian startup and maximum final price here will be 4.8k $
4k is a premium cost in india you can expect the price to reduce.
Besides the bikes I already know, I have no idea what the names of the other companies were.
In regards to the first bike presented: why would “elevation“ change range? Elevation has a substantial role in determining fuel efficiency of “petrol burning” vehicles, but not so much “electric vehicles”.... “temperature” highly determines range with electric vehicles.
I watch the video again. Maybe you mean “% grade” (slope of road) , not “elevation”
You go up u waste more battery
I have a 6KW e motorcycle, he means climbing, not elevation. The range takes a beating climbing up the mountain
ultraviolet for the in my book and sondors close sec for me
What’s the last one?
Watch the video.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace I did. How you think I got to “the last one”?
ultraviolette f77
Its never written on the screen. Your accent is hard to understand especially for unique names
Less performance for the Metacycle? Were you confusing the specs with the previous 3 bikes? It can go up to 80mph and 80 miles on a charge...for $5000! (plus, I like the minimalistic and futuristic design).
The Denzel Racer literally starts off at $5,200 on their website.
The ONLY bike that MAY be under $5,000 is the final bike. And we don't even know for sure yet since they haven't put out the final price.
Why not just said under $6,000 since all of these are 5k or over
At the time the video was made the prices were lower.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace
Except that 3 of them are listed as 5k or more in the video.
The other one almost doubled in price in 6 months? Seems a little crazy
It does look better stripped but will never have a retail of 4K. Wholesale price to distributors maybe. If they can pull this off though Sonders is done
NO JUST NO. Get your audio game correct. I don't know how you did that intro and then when you "get into it" you ear bang us with e-bike noises... why during editting would you think thats good
Bro I want to build a 10kw peak power bldc electric motorcycle, so could you please tell me where can I buy could
What was the top speed of the number 2 choice?
Fire your video editor, because they are straight up trolling you. How do you go from whisper-level talking to blasting audio at 0:32?
can the transitional sound effects be LOUDER!! PLZ!!!
Less than 5k?
wow no 1 & 2 ... this is more like it! No one is paying 20,000 for something less than what petrol can deliver ; people will pay 5000 for something nearly as good as a light motorcycle that is electric though.. for sure!
electric delivers more than petrol!
i can't understand a word this guy is saying - what was the first one called????
My ears within headphones exploded on 00:32 This should be illegal!!
All your bikes are over 5k... and the ones under don't exist and have a high chance they won't even come out! That last bike will definitely cost $9000 in the U.S.
Title states “under $5,000” but proceeds to have multiple bikes for over that…
Say no oil
NOW
That denzil thing is the stupidest looking thing I've ever seen, and I've seen some stupid looking things over the years 🤣
how is $5800 less than $5000?
Screamer at 0:31
This is supposed to be under 5I, and the second bike is already 800 over, come one dude
hey, so if interested in buying one these bikes how do i go about it
website and place the order.
0:25 can someone tell me bike name
Electric motorcycles are too small. They are fantastic but small. The small size effects the perception of the market. Although many people are sized small, many are not. If you are above 6' and 200 lbs, electric bikes are too small.
Don’t think the title goes with the video UNDER 5000
inflation prices went up....
how to get an f77 in america? 2021
or super soco?
It'll available in few months i guess.
Do watch their launch event it was useful amd shows that the bike is top quality.
@@ok4405 have you seen the Geon Scrampler? It's an electric mock up of the Scrambler. $6000⁰⁰ is their price tag on site and they're taking pre-orders! Only its in the Russian area of the map. Not sure about when they expected not if they truly gonna hit our market. Check it out. GEON electric scrampler motorcycle
@@jamesthomas8481 ohh I'll check it out.
@@jamesthomas8481 Did you watch the launch event of the f77
En California is legal this bike
How can I get the last one in Texas lol
"Top 5 bikes under $5k" shows 2 bikes under $5k...
Read about inflation
@@ElectricVehicleSpace Read about changing titles...
How is 5800 less than $5000
I cannot for the life of me find a website or any info on how to buy the ecr v1 by Denzel, or at least no websites that are not insanely sketchy. Help please!
That Denzel has been pushed for years and I have never seen a true review for it anywhere! I don't think they ever actually put the Cafe Racer in production... would like to hear more about it my self. The Metacycle by far seems like the best deal currently weighing reserving one myself.
It's vaporware.
I really need it
not kilowatt or Amps. You forget the h (hour)
you get the point
the numbers are WAY too loud! No joking! Also, why is the title baity? There are many options under 5k and yet most of the bikes in the video are more expensive and/or not available yet!
@weee weee thats not my point though.