First of all I'm not promoting this as an S-TIER weapon. This is a Weapon Review only and what I'm doing is I find ways on how to make the weapon useful despite of it's bad/worst performances. It's like repairing/restoring broken things making it run again in a most decent way. Overall, what do you think about this new Assault Rifle? Let me know your thoughts below...
I prefer the liberator over it but against the smaller bugs and that small warrior it's good against. But the rest it requires more effort and make me wish I brought liberator instead.
Well basically you try to dig a hole with a spoon where there is a heavy excavator right beside you.. why would you bother with the spoon ? their ideas doesn't match the guns in reality, you can see it basically in a lot of weapon descriptions.
I feel like tendersiser's starts were made before liberator got damage buff,. From what I seen, Tenderizer seems to perform a lot like penetrator, but lack the ability do punch through medium armor. I think that giving this new gun 5-10 more damage would make it feel like a TENDERIZER.
@@WayaliciousTVand not to sound like a huge nerd but +10 damage would also let it 2 shot Devastators in the head. Some people care about their breakpoints so just putting that out there lol.
@@hippoace i mean the adjudicator already make the penetrator obsolete so making the tenderizer a better penetrator basically bridge that gap between power and versatility,you want more dmg?get the adjudicator,want range but also the ability to deal with large amount of grunts?the penetrator,want the best of both world?the tenderizer,ok maybe disable the tenderizer the ability to use long range scope to help the penetrator keep it trait
This makes it like a concussive rounds... but i really like your Idea, I just think that the balance team will not agree cuz they love to give us weak guns 😅
Its not lack of power or buffs, he just have skill and use his brain to defeat his enemy no matter what they throw at him. A lot of people dont realize that Helldivers is built to provoke failure odds against you. You cant blame a weapon for not killing in a game because you lack skill. As i said in my own comment, i use two of the most inaccurate weapons in the game. The AR-C and the knight and still out live and kill more than anybody on my team. Practice makes prepared. Youre not about to be the hero in this game. Youre apart of a team, and this isnt COD your meta nonsense matters not here…
@@AdjudicatorBrbal it's not about meta or something like that, not even skill, you don't need that much "skill" to play Helldivers 2; i do like the tenderizer, it feels good bc of the low recoil and good handling, but anything besides that, it's really not that impressive, something that can make the weapon it's own thing, not a "slightly better" liberty AR, and of course you can kill with the Knight, it's not that hard to handle, and the arc, well, not that special, plenty of people use it. But like i said, make the weapons fun to use, and even Johan, the CEO backs that up. The top-down balance doesn't work, incentivice more the "meta" actually, and i'm all against using meta stuff. It's about make the game fun more than anything. Yes, you're not the "hero", but everyone plays helldivers to make you "feel like one", not invincible. About having fun while still dealing with challenges. By the record, i don't play COD, never liked it.
My advise is, dont look at stats. In helldivers if it lacks high recoil you may like that weapon. I love the ar and smg they are great. I just am already in love with the ARC and Knight. I use them faithfully, and they are the most inaccurate weapons in the game.
I prefer the tenderizer over the lib because its easier to control because of the lower recoil. With the lib, it feels like im only hitting air with 30% of my bullets. Its also easier for me to fight at medium range with bots. Although the lib looks cooler 😅
That’s directly because it’s using higher caliber rounds in the mag which take up more room. The devs are using real life physics for the weapons that exist today. They took away this weapons identity as being a stronger liberator when they buffed the base model. They can give it 5-10 extra damage and would be decent without breaking anything.
@@mangasaint I am not opposed to using a bit of real-life physics on weapons and environments, but if they're going to enforce the bad aspects of dealing with real-life physics, then also add the good parts; for example, the new armor sets have spike boots utilized for ice climbing and walking on ice yet they don't apply this effect when walking on ice in-game, and that's just one example. It feels like they focus more on the tedious side of real-life physics than anything else.
I really like the accuracy of the tenderizer when im against bots. Its not perfect but its got zero recoil when crouching, by doing this i find you can really quickly rip through small bots and headshots are super easy
It really needs higher damage and/or medium armor pen. The description says its a high caliber round, yet it shoots and handles like a small caliber. It should be at least on par with the adjuticator to be viable
Yes, take note that some of my shots didn't penetrate... so atleast give it some armor pen or some damage tweaks to finally feel it like a true "tenderizer"
Thats common, i bet youre a breaker meta boy. I cant stand when yall get in the comments. You cant tell you started playing helldivers when 2 came out and never touched 1 where it will help you to understand a lot why 2 is the way it is. Well was… Because you goof balls have complained so bad they started people pleasing. The game is a team based game unlike cod your meta nonsense wont help you suck less and stop having skill issues like displayed on this vid…
I dont know why they dont attach a mechanic to the ARs. Internal damage/bleed on bots/bugs. Could attach whatever debuff to it, speed, accuracy, awareness, dmg tick, whatever but something to add some utility. Supposed to be high velocity rounds coming out of them.
We're in dire need of an actual balance of the primary weapons. I don't like how many primary weapons feel like they have no place in 70% of overall fighting in a mission. Automatons make this even worse with every weapon with less than medium penetration is made useless.
I thing for it to be a real "tenderizer" they should rework it so the description says "it fires a smaller bullet at high velocity" give it like -10 damage, a 60 (50 would still feel lacking) round clip and high rof (like 900-1100) and good recoil so it doesn't bounce a lot (making it a P90 like gun). Lots of small holes would be what "tenderized" the meat, and it would have its own identity, not just be a paid skin for Liberator with -10 ammo.
Damn man, you nailed about the term "tenderizer" but i think 900-1100 drum mag would be overkill... I think 80-100 would be fine, but thanks for sharing your idea man. Well done!
@@WayaliciousTV Yes Stalwart like exactly, the name makes sense for that if you think about it and its the only assault riffle category that still isn't filled by another, cuz if you make a bigger bullet with more damage it makes it an Ajudicator, small with pen well that's Penetrator, high stagger? Nope taken again. So i feel like "many small holes" is the only tick that's still unticked for projectile assault riffles.
I paired this bad boy up with the rail gun to kill armored enemies and man does it work good that way. I just wish they added limb damage on it. That’s all!
I agree man, I have my Railgun footages here with this tenderizer but at some point I thought everyone will just ignore it.. I'll include more footages next time.. Thanks man!
Soooo basically, just a sickle without the wait on cooldown. Still idk if worth it. A lot of guns might be worth it even without medium armor pen if the ammo was sufficient for chaff clear. or damage was efficient enough for mediums weapons to kill mediums. Senator, being a prime example in my eyes, takes a full mag to take out the head of just 1 hive gaured and then your back to reloading which takes a while but if they balanced out the reloading with high damage ammo efficiency and you took out 2 maybe even 3 max which would honestly be pushing it but reduced quantity of ammo and kept the long reload it would be fine. Heavy machine gun also would be fine if the fire rate was way way lower it hit way way harder and you got more per bullet before needing that long reload.
@@WayaliciousTV oh okay. Feels surprisingly good tbh! It’s very accurate due to the very low recoil! I use an 30 percent recoil reduction armor and it is basically a more accurate sickle
Just wanted to get this early, because I don't think English is your first language, but the thumbnail should read "does the Tenderizer really suck?" Unless it's intentional which is funny as hell 😂
On bot mission it is fine especially on mid range gun fight when i have mine sentries pull out. It has virtually no recoil but if you get 1 shot in your recoil gonna suffer so much
I honestly don’t feel the same animosity towards it as other divers, it’s not remarkable by any means, but it’s essential a slightly more accurate and stylistic liberator, so it’s more along the lines of mildly redundant
Everyone playing the easiest meta weapons because they’re easier to kill a lot of enemies. You on other hand use non meta weapons purely for fun because it forces you to use other stratagems and support weapons, which is where the real fun comes from (Doom Eternal player here juggling between different weapons is second nature to me). Kudos to you. I’m currently using the other new explosive weapon and imo it’s one of the most fun non meta weapons because it requires skill and timing to use. Once you master it, it feels like you’re using a mini arc thrower. If you could make a video on that, i would appreciate it
Hello jesspeed! Reading your comment puts a lot of happiness on my face... I'm glad you're a Doom Player. Personally, I love using variety of loadouts. Thanks! I love that Purifier too! and Yes, I agree! it's a like a mini arc thrower because of the charging time nostalgia... Actually I'm editing it right now because I'm gonna upload it this sunday. I have my next video schedule for the next 10hrs... It's the Pummeler SMG, Stay tuned!
First of all I'm not promoting this as an S-TIER weapon. This is a Weapon Review only and what I'm doing is I find ways on how to make the weapon useful despite of it's bad/worst performances. It's like repairing/restoring broken things making it run again in a most decent way.
Overall, what do you think about this new Assault Rifle? Let me know your thoughts below...
I prefer the liberator over it but against the smaller bugs and that small warrior it's good against. But the rest it requires more effort and make me wish I brought liberator instead.
It sucks, waste of super credits. Missed opportunity to add a burst fire rifle.
@@TheVocalTune Liberator has the better performances but for the gun sounds, I pick the Tenderizer 😅
@@will88840 I respect your opinion about it, Thanks for sharing buddy!
Well basically you try to dig a hole with a spoon where there is a heavy excavator right beside you.. why would you bother with the spoon ? their ideas doesn't match the guns in reality, you can see it basically in a lot of weapon descriptions.
I feel like tendersiser's starts were made before liberator got damage buff,. From what I seen, Tenderizer seems to perform a lot like penetrator, but lack the ability do punch through medium armor.
I think that giving this new gun 5-10 more damage would make it feel like a TENDERIZER.
I agree with you man, a little tweak damage for about 10 would be fine and feel more like "Tenderizer"
@@WayaliciousTVand not to sound like a huge nerd but +10 damage would also let it 2 shot Devastators in the head. Some people care about their breakpoints so just putting that out there lol.
I think all it need is medium penetration,base liberator is already a beast now imagine that but can punch through bigger enemies
@@decade9026 wont this make lib pen redundant
@@hippoace i mean the adjudicator already make the penetrator obsolete so making the tenderizer a better penetrator basically bridge that gap between power and versatility,you want more dmg?get the adjudicator,want range but also the ability to deal with large amount of grunts?the penetrator,want the best of both world?the tenderizer,ok maybe disable the tenderizer the ability to use long range scope to help the penetrator keep it trait
I feel like if this weapon slowed enemies by 10% or something it would be balanced.
This makes it like a concussive rounds... but i really like your Idea, I just think that the balance team will not agree cuz they love to give us weak guns 😅
i really like how you find ways to use weapons even when some lack power or need buffs, it's really cool
Thank you mate, I appreciate it! I'm glad you like my breakdown videos... Honestly, I am always finding ways to make the weapon viable.
Its not lack of power or buffs, he just have skill and use his brain to defeat his enemy no matter what they throw at him. A lot of people dont realize that Helldivers is built to provoke failure odds against you. You cant blame a weapon for not killing in a game because you lack skill. As i said in my own comment, i use two of the most inaccurate weapons in the game. The AR-C and the knight and still out live and kill more than anybody on my team. Practice makes prepared. Youre not about to be the hero in this game. Youre apart of a team, and this isnt COD your meta nonsense matters not here…
@@AdjudicatorBrbal it's not about meta or something like that, not even skill, you don't need that much "skill" to play Helldivers 2; i do like the tenderizer, it feels good bc of the low recoil and good handling, but anything besides that, it's really not that impressive, something that can make the weapon it's own thing, not a "slightly better" liberty AR, and of course you can kill with the Knight, it's not that hard to handle, and the arc, well, not that special, plenty of people use it. But like i said, make the weapons fun to use, and even Johan, the CEO backs that up. The top-down balance doesn't work, incentivice more the "meta" actually, and i'm all against using meta stuff. It's about make the game fun more than anything. Yes, you're not the "hero", but everyone plays helldivers to make you "feel like one", not invincible. About having fun while still dealing with challenges. By the record, i don't play COD, never liked it.
@@nithyg8120 evidently you do the way people complain. But you have every right to your opinion
@@AdjudicatorBrbal but... even ceo agreed..
Interesting. I had written off the tenderizer as its stats looked mediocre compared to the basic liberator. I might have to give it a try
Yes, as of now it's really hard to use it...
My advise is, dont look at stats. In helldivers if it lacks high recoil you may like that weapon. I love the ar and smg they are great. I just am already in love with the ARC and Knight. I use them faithfully, and they are the most inaccurate weapons in the game.
I prefer the tenderizer over the lib because its easier to control because of the lower recoil. With the lib, it feels like im only hitting air with 30% of my bullets. Its also easier for me to fight at medium range with bots. Although the lib looks cooler 😅
personally, for the gun sounds I really like the tenderizer... but the color of this tenderizer is like a toy lol 😅
It does the same thing as the Liberator, but you have 10 fewer rounds. There’s no workaround for that.
I agree man, feels weaker but the gun sounds can overshadowed liberator 😅 the looks are just cingey toy
That’s directly because it’s using higher caliber rounds in the mag which take up more room.
The devs are using real life physics for the weapons that exist today.
They took away this weapons identity as being a stronger liberator when they buffed the base model.
They can give it 5-10 extra damage and would be decent without breaking anything.
@@mangasaint I am not opposed to using a bit of real-life physics on weapons and environments, but if they're going to enforce the bad aspects of dealing with real-life physics, then also add the good parts; for example, the new armor sets have spike boots utilized for ice climbing and walking on ice yet they don't apply this effect when walking on ice in-game, and that's just one example. It feels like they focus more on the tedious side of real-life physics than anything else.
You do have 10 magazines tho
I don't know if the weapon got a buff since this video was made, but it eats through bots like nobody's business. I think its really good.
This is true! I manage to test it on bots now and It's good
I really like the accuracy of the tenderizer when im against bots. Its not perfect but its got zero recoil when crouching, by doing this i find you can really quickly rip through small bots and headshots are super easy
It needs med armor pen and a 60 round mag and it would be a perfect homage to starahip troopers
I agree with this, need some armor penetration
I like the gun a lot against bots, rule of cool and i have a feeling its gonna get buffed. Its just a more accurate liberator
I hope it gets buffed soon! 💯
It really needs higher damage and/or medium armor pen. The description says its a high caliber round, yet it shoots and handles like a small caliber. It should be at least on par with the adjuticator to be viable
I agree with this, an armor pen will be fine and a little tweak for the mag size
3:21 oh boy, two magazines to kill one hive guard
Yes, take note that some of my shots didn't penetrate... so atleast give it some armor pen or some damage tweaks to finally feel it like a true "tenderizer"
Thats common, i bet youre a breaker meta boy. I cant stand when yall get in the comments. You cant tell you started playing helldivers when 2 came out and never touched 1 where it will help you to understand a lot why 2 is the way it is. Well was… Because you goof balls have complained so bad they started people pleasing. The game is a team based game unlike cod your meta nonsense wont help you suck less and stop having skill issues like displayed on this vid…
He missed plenty bullets
I dont know why they dont attach a mechanic to the ARs. Internal damage/bleed on bots/bugs. Could attach whatever debuff to it, speed, accuracy, awareness, dmg tick, whatever but something to add some utility. Supposed to be high velocity rounds coming out of them.
We're in dire need of an actual balance of the primary weapons. I don't like how many primary weapons feel like they have no place in 70% of overall fighting in a mission.
Automatons make this even worse with every weapon with less than medium penetration is made useless.
I agree man, Let's hope the balance team have a new balance patch coming soon!
I thing for it to be a real "tenderizer" they should rework it so the description says "it fires a smaller bullet at high velocity" give it like -10 damage, a 60 (50 would still feel lacking) round clip and high rof (like 900-1100) and good recoil so it doesn't bounce a lot (making it a P90 like gun). Lots of small holes would be what "tenderized" the meat, and it would have its own identity, not just be a paid skin for Liberator with -10 ammo.
Damn man, you nailed about the term "tenderizer" but i think 900-1100 drum mag would be overkill... I think 80-100 would be fine, but thanks for sharing your idea man. Well done!
@@WayaliciousTVrate of fire (rof) 900-1100 bullets per minute not mag size
@@lukemehalick370 ohh thanks! Now i get it... 1100 would be sick! 👌🏻i see a fellow Stalwart enjoyer vibe
@@WayaliciousTV Yes Stalwart like exactly, the name makes sense for that if you think about it and its the only assault riffle category that still isn't filled by another, cuz if you make a bigger bullet with more damage it makes it an Ajudicator, small with pen well that's Penetrator, high stagger? Nope taken again. So i feel like "many small holes" is the only tick that's still unticked for projectile assault riffles.
i want this rifle to be buffed in some way.
I know is hard to give identity to every weapon... but what about 50% extra dmg to limbs.???
I agree with this man, a little tweak to damage would be fine
Thanks for the info!
No worries! I'm glad you liked my video! More upcoming soon... Thank you so much!
@@WayaliciousTV looking forward to it, I like the styl3 of your breakdown. It's better than other YTers imo
@@Cos416 damn man, I appreciate it! Thank you for your genuine support 🙏🏻💯
I paired this bad boy up with the rail gun to kill armored enemies and man does it work good that way. I just wish they added limb damage on it. That’s all!
I agree man, I have my Railgun footages here with this tenderizer but at some point I thought everyone will just ignore it.. I'll include more footages next time..
Thanks man!
@@WayaliciousTV it’s always a joy seeing your videos man so thank you !
@@kevinuribe318 I'm glad you liked it man! thank you so much for the genuine support 💯
Soooo basically, just a sickle without the wait on cooldown. Still idk if worth it.
A lot of guns might be worth it even without medium armor pen if the ammo was sufficient for chaff clear. or damage was efficient enough for mediums weapons to kill mediums.
Senator, being a prime example in my eyes, takes a full mag to take out the head of just 1 hive gaured and then your back to reloading which takes a while but if they balanced out the reloading with high damage ammo efficiency and you took out 2 maybe even 3 max which would honestly be pushing it but reduced quantity of ammo and kept the long reload it would be fine.
Heavy machine gun also would be fine if the fire rate was way way lower it hit way way harder and you got more per bullet before needing that long reload.
Thanks for your Honest comment man, I like the way you ellaborate things such as the senator and the heavy machine gun... well done buddy!
Have they changed something? It feels really good to me…
They just changed the Color of the Gun.. but in terms of stats they changed nothing as of now...
@@WayaliciousTV oh okay. Feels surprisingly good tbh! It’s very accurate due to the very low recoil! I use an 30 percent recoil reduction armor and it is basically a more accurate sickle
@@irfkaptan Yes.. I agree man! But in terms of overall versatility... Sickle is more better
Just wanted to get this early, because I don't think English is your first language, but the thumbnail should read "does the Tenderizer really suck?"
Unless it's intentional which is funny as hell 😂
Oh man thank you for this 😂 lol.. should I change it or nah?
Changed... Done! 😅
On bot mission it is fine especially on mid range gun fight when i have mine sentries pull out. It has virtually no recoil but if you get 1 shot in your recoil gonna suffer so much
I agree with this, If you get shot the recoil is crazy...
I honestly don’t feel the same animosity towards it as other divers, it’s not remarkable by any means, but it’s essential a slightly more accurate and stylistic liberator, so it’s more along the lines of mildly redundant
I agree it's just a different style liberator with more accuracy
if any other guns even the Redeemer can do TENDERIZER's job, than whats the point of using this crap?
Redeemer is deadly in close and mid range... This weapon is kinda fine to be a primary weapon just for smalls and mediums only
Cause i cant flip a Redeemer like i can a Senator
Tender-lies-er 😂
😂
Oh it was helpful alright, just reconfirms that its trash and to just use the regular Liberator or anything else better.
thanks man! and yes I agree, still it's a bad weapon... so it needs some tweaks
Everyone playing the easiest meta weapons because they’re easier to kill a lot of enemies. You on other hand use non meta weapons purely for fun because it forces you to use other stratagems and support weapons, which is where the real fun comes from (Doom Eternal player here juggling between different weapons is second nature to me).
Kudos to you. I’m currently using the other new explosive weapon and imo it’s one of the most fun non meta weapons because it requires skill and timing to use. Once you master it, it feels like you’re using a mini arc thrower.
If you could make a video on that, i would appreciate it
Hello jesspeed! Reading your comment puts a lot of happiness on my face... I'm glad you're a Doom Player. Personally, I love using variety of loadouts. Thanks!
I love that Purifier too! and Yes, I agree! it's a like a mini arc thrower because of the charging time nostalgia... Actually I'm editing it right now because I'm gonna upload it this sunday.
I have my next video schedule for the next 10hrs... It's the Pummeler SMG, Stay tuned!
I guess I need to kick people based on what their playstyle are. 4:04
This cracked me up 😂