Because it’s true. I’ve been saying it for the past two years (when what culture pointed it out as a “see how great omega is”) it’s all bs. Kurt is one of the greatest to ever step in the ring, and in my honest opinion he is the greatest period. And he has no 5 star matches. While Kurt was in TNA cutting some of the best promos and wrestling some of the best matches this business ever saw Kenny is in Japan getting 6 and 7 star matches and Kenny has not and never will be as good as prime Kurt but Kurt never even got a 5? And I’ve heard people try to defend this saying “the crowds in Japan are just bigger and better 🤓” the crowds are bigger than mania when he faced Shawn Michaels at 21? The crowds were bigger than when he faced Eddie Guerrero at mania 20 for the wwe title? The crowds were better than lockdown in a lethal lockdown cage match against Nigel mcguiness? If he doesn’t have a 5 star against Eddie, Shawn, mysterio, triple h, aj styles, Christian, Samoa joe, sting, Nigel mcguiness it’s all bs.
You don't have to watch Chris to know that Kurt Angle has no 5 star match according to the dynamic dude Dave Meltzer. It's a well known piece of trivia.
Kurt is one of the greatest to ever step in the ring, and in my honest opinion he is the greatest period. And he has no 5 star matches. While Kurt was in TNA cutting some of the best promos and wrestling some of the best matches this business ever saw Kenny is in Japan getting 6 and 7 star matches and Kenny has not and never will be as good as prime Kurt but Kurt never even got a 5? And I’ve heard people try to defend this saying “the crowds in Japan are just bigger and better 🤓” the crowds are bigger than mania when he faced Shawn Michaels at 21? The crowds were better than when he faced Eddie Guerrero at mania 20 for the wwe title? The crowds were bigger than lockdown in a lethal lockdown cage match against Nigel mcguiness? If he doesn’t have a 5 star against Eddie, Shawn, mysterio, triple h, aj styles, Christian, Samoa joe, sting, Nigel mcguiness it’s all bs.
To make it even worse, not a single one of Kurt Angle's matches in Japan received a 5 Star Rating by Meltzer. Not Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar, not Kurt Angle vs Yuji Nagata, not even Kurt Angle vs Hiroshi Tanahashi.
@@bre4kd0wn1 yep he was IWGP world heavyweight champion at the exact same time he was TNA world champion again just furthering my point he’s the best of all time because he was holding both world titles of the 2nd and 3rd biggest wrestling promotions on the planet at the time. And like you said Dave again didn’t rate any of those matches 5 stars. Why? Because he hated TNA. He always hated TNA. He was one of the people who kept trying to convince people TNA was shit and not worth watching and made a bunch of TH-camrs like what culture and wrestle talk parrot that same trash because well it’s Dave and he’s daddy and knows best. But Dave excuses AEW for making not just the same mistakes TNA made, but even bigger ones, everyone’s always saying “oh AEW is a young company it’s only been on tv for 3 or 4 years. Cut them some slack.” Bruh TNA was only on tv 3-4 years from 05-09 and people weren’t cutting them slack at all. 2009 is the year hogan and Eric Bischoff joined and fans started tuning out. A young company is not a good excuse for one company and not the other.
Shawn Michaels and Rey Mysterio got 5 ⭐ matches. Also I believe Samoa Joe and AJ Styles had a 5 ⭐ match in a triple threat match with Christopher Daniels in TNA
@ Ricochet was also great in that match, I’m just saying, Angle is one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time yet Meltzer has snubbed him time and time again in his star ratings. Wreslemania 21 vs. HBK, the Smackdown Iron Man match vs. Brock, No Way Out 2006 vs. Taker, all matches that were worthy of a five star rating
Kurt was being humble when he said he feels he has 20 5 star matches. Shawn didn’t give an f about 5 star matches, dude probably should have had 10 during his last 3 years in the company. Dave gets a hard on whenever Ospreay lands a backflip or drops a wrestler on their head.
Kurt Angle 5 star matches Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit Royal Rumble Kurt Angle vs HBK Wrestlemania 21 Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar Ironman match Smackdown 2003
@@trollge9567 Let's Not Forget his Run in TNA: 1) Kurt Angle vs Abyss Turning Point 2008 2) Kurt Angle vs Sting Bound For Glory 2007 3) Kurt Angle vs Niguel McGuinness/Desmond Wolfe Turning Point 2009 4) Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarret Genesis 2009 (One of my Favorite Matches and One of my Favorite TNA Feuds) 5) Kurt Angle vs Samoa Joe Lockdown 2008 6) Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles Hard Justice 2008 (One of The Greatest TNA Matches of all Time in my Opinion) Dave is a Goofball for thinking that these matches ain't 5 Stars.
I was almost a Dave Meltzer until AL Snow exposed years ago about how biased his supposed rating is. Al spoke of how he would at wwe show trying to get info for his. When he didn't get any information, that show a bad show but when he some dirt all of sudden it was a good show.
well in all honesty, its his opinion and if it were anyone else, almost every match would be considered 5 star. the man makes a living off of it, he doesn’t scrutinize careers like the people that wrestlers have worked for. if u dont care for the opinion, dont pay attention to it. Dave Adds More To The Industry More Than He Takes Away From It.
Fuck his shitty ass opinion. Dude praises work rate and Indy talent and thinks wrestlers like Kenny omega are better than Kurt angle. You have a right to your opinion but that doesn’t mean you’re opinion should be taken seriously especially if you’ve never done the shit you’re making a living off of.
Kurt angle in reality could beat anyone in that ring with his mat skills the proof is around his neck and he's funny and entertaining and to say he's never had a 5 star match is bs he's had several i remember watching royal rumble against Benoit and being young and drawn more to characters watching that match in amazement it stood out
I agree Meltzer and those ratting’s are so annoying. What is even a bigger crock is that He aint NEVER stepped in a Squared Circle but hands out ratings out of 5 stars and he has been doing so for many many years. What is hilarious is it’s all just his opinion, there is no certain criteria to a 5 star match. it is just how Meltzer feels the match went 🤷🏼♂️…. He isnt even on WWE payroll but gives ratings as his job. I completely agree with Seth on This One. He may be a Historian of Pro Wrestling but he definitely is NO Expert in Rating Wrestling Matches let alone rating anything. “ in the Grand Scheme of things, it really means Nothing “ …. Seth could not of said it any better
While Kurt was in TNA cutting some of the best promos and wrestling some of the best matches this business ever saw Kenny is in Japan getting 6 and 7 star matches and Kenny has not and never will be as good as prime Kurt but Kurt never even got a 5? And I’ve heard people try to defend this saying “the crowds in Japan are just bigger and better 🤓” the crowds are bigger than mania when he faced Shawn Michaels at 21? The crowds were bigger than when he faced Eddie Guerrero at mania 20 for the wwe title? The crowds were better than lockdown in a lethal lockdown cage match against Nigel mcguiness? If he doesn’t have a 5 star against Eddie, Shawn, mysterio, triple h, aj styles, Christian, Samoa joe, sting, Nigel mcguiness it’s all bs.
@@thehorrorhound6575you sound so butt hurt lmfao it’s crazy that you say that but all wrestlers old and new have agreed Kenny’s matches in Japan are some of the best. You really gotta stop this dickriding y’all do and actually do some research. Literally everyone praises Kenny’s matches in NJPW.
Great point, and you mentioning that Meltzer has never stepped foot in a ring before reminds me of what Al Snow said about Dave one time. To paraphrase, Al said “Dave is one of the greatest workers of all time, he’s garnered a six figure income off of wrestling for two or three decades but has never had a single match”. Also, wrestling is very subjective. The things I like, you may not care for and vice versa. Which is perfectly fine. Meltzer has given 5 star ratings to a few matches that I, quite frankly, thought were boring (won’t say which ones, don’t want to start a debate) but one of my favorite matches ever (WCW vs. nWo War Games 1996) is a match that I believe Dave rated 1.5 stars, which in his opinion is below average.
@@thehorrorhound6575Absolutely. In my opinion, Angle’s match with Shane McMahon at KOTR 2001 should have gotten 5 stars. Yes, the glass spot was absolutely brutal. But that was Kurt’s third match of the night, and it was with Shane McMahon, which no offense to Shane, but he’s not exactly HBK or Eddie Guerrero in terms of in ring ability. Yet they went 26 minutes and it was brilliant all the way through. I guess since the match didn’t take place in Japan that hurt the star ratings a bit 🙄
@@johnselwitz5362 meltzer is very biased. He never liked TNA because he felt TNA disrespected his favorite Japanese guys. So he spent years trying to convince the wrestling world that TNA didn’t deserve to be the number 2 in the wrestling world. When Chris van vilet pointed at that none of Kurt’s TNA matches were 5 and he thought they were and mentioned joe, styles, sting, Christian, meltzer said none of those matches were 5 star worthy, that 5 star is “ELITE elite” and we all know what that means: “5 star is for my friends” but I think one match that deserved a 5 was Kurt angle vs Samoa Joe in six sides of steel in 2008 at lethal lockdown. Bryan Zane reviewed that ppv at one point and he pointed out that the match had such psychology and intensity that he didn’t even realize till the end that they barely used the cage as a weapon, the match didn’t need it to add any intensity to it. th-cam.com/video/JK-e1GYgeWs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jFNvU0M3Jn1kFLwF
Its basically one mans personal rating system of what he likes. Its not a universal rating system. He obviously has a hard on for indy and Japanese wrestling most of us dont get it so thats why his ratings are so stupid.
Who cares who rated what? It’s just an opinion. Do we get this triggered over Roger Ebert’s movie star ratings? I’ve never lost a wink of sleep in my life over why Ebert loved Scorsese films so much, so gave almost every one he saw the full four stars. Same way I’ve never been so bothered as to why Dave Meltzer much prefers Kenny Omega matches to Kurt Angle ones. Who cares?
The difference between all that is, there's tons of different people reviewing moviesb with Star ratings. But for wrestling it's only dumb dumb Dave. And he isn't even the one who came up with the concept for rating matches
The Rock, Edge, HHH, Mick Foley (all 3 characters), Mr. Perfect, Randy Savage (not even the classic vs Steamboat), Brock Lesnar, Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, Finn Balor, and Kevin Owens are just a few names that all have ZERO five star matches…yet Reigns and Lesnar have each won Meltzer’s wrestler of the year (Brock twice and Reigns once, getting 2nd the year after). Steve Austin has ONE, but he won Meltzer’s wrestler of the year 3 out of 4 years consecutively (and would have been 4 consecutive years had he not gotten injured). Shawn Michaels has ONE, but won Meltzer’s match of the year a record ELEVEN times! If that isn’t proof enough that the star ratings are bull 💩, this next point is the kicker. As a company (Raw, Smackdown, NXT, and all the PPV’s), WWE has exactly HALF the 5 star (plus) matches that Will Ospreay has by himself. Yes. A man who’s been alive 9 less years than WWE has been around as a national and worldwide company has exactly double the 5 star matches that WWE has. That’s how 💩 the star rating system is. Western audiences only knew the names Okada, Ospreay, and Omega bc they all have more 5 ⭐️ matches than WWE has total! And AEW (which has been around 5 years) has 11 more 5 ⭐️ (and plus) matches than WWE has - a company that’s been around for 40 years as the company we know. Unreal 😂 You’re welcome for not having to look this shit up yourself (to whoever’s reading this)
Of course they are he works for AEW why wouldn’t he rig it in their favor he buried himself when they asked him to explain the process behind the way it works and he contradicted himself at every turn
I've always said dave is a hack. I'm glad people are finally starting to notice it. Seth is right, Dave is a good historian. But he's not a wrestler so to judge matches and rate them is ridiculous
Meltzer fans: "Who cares about a guys opinion , it's just that an opinion! Don't understand why people make such a big deal about it . I disagree with some of his ratings but you can't argue with him cause he knows more than anyone else about wrestling. All hail Meltzer AAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!! "
Dave Meltzer knows absolutely jack shit nothing about judging a match so nobody has a 5 star match cuz his opinion is completely meaningless and useless
Seth doesn’t have any matches worth watching over and over that don’t involve “the shield” because he has a shitty gimmick, and he rips off wrestlers that get critical acclaim, then pouts and complains when he doesn’t get the praise for copying them. You can tell it’s a big deal because he’s acting like Dave is lord Voldemort. Its not Dave’s fault. He’s been watching wrestling for years as his job, so his taste is more expansive than the average wwe fan, in which seth likes to gather and rally against Dave when he’s feeling down or something is getting a lot of hype. Like Will Osprey. I’m sure Seth can’t stand that guy because he’s better than him. And if it’s pointed out, they say only Dave likes him because japan lol
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It's so cool that Seth watches Chris van vliets show... Chris just called out Dave meltzer on his show for Kurt angles lack of 5 star matches
Because it’s true. I’ve been saying it for the past two years (when what culture pointed it out as a “see how great omega is”) it’s all bs. Kurt is one of the greatest to ever step in the ring, and in my honest opinion he is the greatest period. And he has no 5 star matches. While Kurt was in TNA cutting some of the best promos and wrestling some of the best matches this business ever saw Kenny is in Japan getting 6 and 7 star matches and Kenny has not and never will be as good as prime Kurt but Kurt never even got a 5? And I’ve heard people try to defend this saying “the crowds in Japan are just bigger and better 🤓” the crowds are bigger than mania when he faced Shawn Michaels at 21? The crowds were bigger than when he faced Eddie Guerrero at mania 20 for the wwe title? The crowds were better than lockdown in a lethal lockdown cage match against Nigel mcguiness? If he doesn’t have a 5 star against Eddie, Shawn, mysterio, triple h, aj styles, Christian, Samoa joe, sting, Nigel mcguiness it’s all bs.
You don't have to watch Chris to know that Kurt Angle has no 5 star match according to the dynamic dude Dave Meltzer. It's a well known piece of trivia.
@@thehorrorhound6575 ohh it's true it's damn true!
CVV is the best.
No seth has always been a wrestling mark I'm sure he knew about those ratings before hand
So agree with you Seth. Kurt definitely had 5 star matches
Him vs Shawn at wrestlemania. Kurt vs stone cold. A few of his lesnar matches
@@jaylanphillips7045And His Amazing Trilogy of fantastic matches with Chris Benoit from WrestleMania 17 to Royal Rumble 2003
Undertaker at No Way Out.
@@dylonmullins That Match is so Underrated
Perk Angle.
Thank you, Seth. Thank you.
Kurt is one of the greatest to ever step in the ring, and in my honest opinion he is the greatest period. And he has no 5 star matches. While Kurt was in TNA cutting some of the best promos and wrestling some of the best matches this business ever saw Kenny is in Japan getting 6 and 7 star matches and Kenny has not and never will be as good as prime Kurt but Kurt never even got a 5? And I’ve heard people try to defend this saying “the crowds in Japan are just bigger and better 🤓” the crowds are bigger than mania when he faced Shawn Michaels at 21? The crowds were better than when he faced Eddie Guerrero at mania 20 for the wwe title? The crowds were bigger than lockdown in a lethal lockdown cage match against Nigel mcguiness? If he doesn’t have a 5 star against Eddie, Shawn, mysterio, triple h, aj styles, Christian, Samoa joe, sting, Nigel mcguiness it’s all bs.
To make it even worse, not a single one of Kurt Angle's matches in Japan received a 5 Star Rating by Meltzer. Not Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar, not Kurt Angle vs Yuji Nagata, not even Kurt Angle vs Hiroshi Tanahashi.
@@bre4kd0wn1 yep he was IWGP world heavyweight champion at the exact same time he was TNA world champion again just furthering my point he’s the best of all time because he was holding both world titles of the 2nd and 3rd biggest wrestling promotions on the planet at the time. And like you said Dave again didn’t rate any of those matches 5 stars. Why? Because he hated TNA. He always hated TNA. He was one of the people who kept trying to convince people TNA was shit and not worth watching and made a bunch of TH-camrs like what culture and wrestle talk parrot that same trash because well it’s Dave and he’s daddy and knows best.
But Dave excuses AEW for making not just the same mistakes TNA made, but even bigger ones, everyone’s always saying “oh AEW is a young company it’s only been on tv for 3 or 4 years. Cut them some slack.” Bruh TNA was only on tv 3-4 years from 05-09 and people weren’t cutting them slack at all. 2009 is the year hogan and Eric Bischoff joined and fans started tuning out. A young company is not a good excuse for one company and not the other.
kurt vs benoit never got five stars and that's one of the greatest matches out there
@@bre4kd0wn1That’s legitimately insane.
Shawn Michaels and Rey Mysterio got 5 ⭐ matches.
Also I believe Samoa Joe and AJ Styles had a 5 ⭐ match in a triple threat match with Christopher Daniels in TNA
I agree with Seth
Meltzer lost all credibility when he broke the 5 star cap.
Kurt Angle has zero five star matches but Lars Sullivan and Killian Dain both have one to their name. Something’s not right with that statement.
You know that in that match Cole and Dream got that 5 star 😂😂
@ Ricochet was also great in that match, I’m just saying, Angle is one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time yet Meltzer has snubbed him time and time again in his star ratings. Wreslemania 21 vs. HBK, the Smackdown Iron Man match vs. Brock, No Way Out 2006 vs. Taker, all matches that were worthy of a five star rating
@@johnselwitz5362 Angle VS Benoit was given 5 stars but I 100% agree with you
Jim Cornette invented the star rating system.
As a rib
@@mattbeckley9483 exactly. Which shows how utterly ridiculous it is.
The star rating system has historically been in use since the mid-1800s, for all kinds of things, so the point is a bit moot
@@sparkywilson1405Talking about pro-weestling.
Kurt was being humble when he said he feels he has 20 5 star matches. Shawn didn’t give an f about 5 star matches, dude probably should have had 10 during his last 3 years in the company.
Dave gets a hard on whenever Ospreay lands a backflip or drops a wrestler on their head.
Kurt Angle 5 star matches
Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit Royal Rumble
Kurt Angle vs HBK Wrestlemania 21
Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar Ironman match Smackdown 2003
Kurt Angle vs Undertaker No Way Out 2006
you're forgetting to mention kurt vs shane street fight kor, which was the best wrestling match I've ever seen by far. Nothing comes close
@@saljewsteinbergowitz And Kurt and Benoit vs Edge and Mysterio vs Los Guerreros Survivor Series 2002
Kurt vs Orton vs Rey at Mania 22
Kurt vs Eddie at Mania 20
Kurt vs Austin at Unforgiven 2001
Kurt vs Rock at No Way Out 2001
@@trollge9567 Let's Not Forget his Run in TNA:
1) Kurt Angle vs Abyss Turning Point 2008
2) Kurt Angle vs Sting Bound For Glory 2007
3) Kurt Angle vs Niguel McGuinness/Desmond Wolfe Turning Point 2009
4) Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarret Genesis 2009 (One of my Favorite Matches and One of my Favorite TNA Feuds)
5) Kurt Angle vs Samoa Joe Lockdown 2008
6) Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles Hard Justice 2008 (One of The Greatest TNA Matches of all Time in my Opinion)
Dave is a Goofball for thinking that these matches ain't 5 Stars.
I was almost a Dave Meltzer until AL Snow exposed years ago about how biased his supposed rating is. Al spoke of how he would at wwe show trying to get info for his. When he didn't get any information, that show a bad show but when he some dirt all of sudden it was a good show.
well in all honesty, its his opinion and if it were anyone else, almost every match would be considered 5 star. the man makes a living off of it, he doesn’t scrutinize careers like the people that wrestlers have worked for. if u dont care for the opinion, dont pay attention to it. Dave Adds More To The Industry More Than He Takes Away From It.
Like Seth said he's only good as a historian not a match rater
@@suji911 exactly, so why do people take his match ratings to heart?😂😂
@@blizzavelli Most likely because he isn't giving matches they like 5 stars which i could understand to some degree.
@@suji911 i do disagree on some ratings but u cant trash the guy when he knows way more about wrestling than any connoisseur there is😂
Fuck his shitty ass opinion. Dude praises work rate and Indy talent and thinks wrestlers like Kenny omega are better than Kurt angle. You have a right to your opinion but that doesn’t mean you’re opinion should be taken seriously especially if you’ve never done the shit you’re making a living off of.
Kurt angle in reality could beat anyone in that ring with his mat skills the proof is around his neck and he's funny and entertaining and to say he's never had a 5 star match is bs he's had several i remember watching royal rumble against Benoit and being young and drawn more to characters watching that match in amazement it stood out
Finally
Hhh vs undertaker should have got 6 star if omega can get 6
YES
Which match? And if taker and HHH get 6 then take n Shawn need 7 or 8
I agree Meltzer and those ratting’s are so annoying. What is even a bigger crock is that He aint NEVER stepped in a Squared Circle but hands out ratings out of 5 stars and he has been doing so for many many years. What is hilarious is it’s all just his opinion, there is no certain criteria to a 5 star match. it is just how Meltzer feels the match went 🤷🏼♂️….
He isnt even on WWE payroll but gives ratings as his job. I completely agree with Seth on This One. He may be a Historian of Pro Wrestling but he definitely is NO Expert in Rating Wrestling Matches let alone rating anything.
“ in the Grand Scheme of things, it really means Nothing “ …. Seth could not of said it any better
While Kurt was in TNA cutting some of the best promos and wrestling some of the best matches this business ever saw Kenny is in Japan getting 6 and 7 star matches and Kenny has not and never will be as good as prime Kurt but Kurt never even got a 5? And I’ve heard people try to defend this saying “the crowds in Japan are just bigger and better 🤓” the crowds are bigger than mania when he faced Shawn Michaels at 21? The crowds were bigger than when he faced Eddie Guerrero at mania 20 for the wwe title? The crowds were better than lockdown in a lethal lockdown cage match against Nigel mcguiness? If he doesn’t have a 5 star against Eddie, Shawn, mysterio, triple h, aj styles, Christian, Samoa joe, sting, Nigel mcguiness it’s all bs.
@@thehorrorhound6575you sound so butt hurt lmfao it’s crazy that you say that but all wrestlers old and new have agreed Kenny’s matches in Japan are some of the best. You really gotta stop this dickriding y’all do and actually do some research. Literally everyone praises Kenny’s matches in NJPW.
Great point, and you mentioning that Meltzer has never stepped foot in a ring before reminds me of what Al Snow said about Dave one time. To paraphrase, Al said “Dave is one of the greatest workers of all time, he’s garnered a six figure income off of wrestling for two or three decades but has never had a single match”. Also, wrestling is very subjective. The things I like, you may not care for and vice versa. Which is perfectly fine. Meltzer has given 5 star ratings to a few matches that I, quite frankly, thought were boring (won’t say which ones, don’t want to start a debate) but one of my favorite matches ever (WCW vs. nWo War Games 1996) is a match that I believe Dave rated 1.5 stars, which in his opinion is below average.
@@thehorrorhound6575Absolutely. In my opinion, Angle’s match with Shane McMahon at KOTR 2001 should have gotten 5 stars. Yes, the glass spot was absolutely brutal. But that was Kurt’s third match of the night, and it was with Shane McMahon, which no offense to Shane, but he’s not exactly HBK or Eddie Guerrero in terms of in ring ability. Yet they went 26 minutes and it was brilliant all the way through. I guess since the match didn’t take place in Japan that hurt the star ratings a bit 🙄
@@johnselwitz5362 meltzer is very biased. He never liked TNA because he felt TNA disrespected his favorite Japanese guys. So he spent years trying to convince the wrestling world that TNA didn’t deserve to be the number 2 in the wrestling world. When Chris van vilet pointed at that none of Kurt’s TNA matches were 5 and he thought they were and mentioned joe, styles, sting, Christian, meltzer said none of those matches were 5 star worthy, that 5 star is “ELITE elite” and we all know what that means: “5 star is for my friends” but I think one match that deserved a 5 was Kurt angle vs Samoa Joe in six sides of steel in 2008 at lethal lockdown. Bryan Zane reviewed that ppv at one point and he pointed out that the match had such psychology and intensity that he didn’t even realize till the end that they barely used the cage as a weapon, the match didn’t need it to add any intensity to it.
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I like Seth more with age. My fav matches didn't get 5 stars. 😂 Hogan vs Rock and Angle vs HBK.
The star rating system is more for Dave's ego.
Let’s put it this way
Flair/steamboat-4.5 stars
Kenny omega/anybody-7 stars
Flair VS Steamboat was given 6 stars bro
It's about the money they draw.
THANK YOU SETH, finally someone's said it 💯🙌🏾
Its basically one mans personal rating system of what he likes. Its not a universal rating system. He obviously has a hard on for indy and Japanese wrestling most of us dont get it so thats why his ratings are so stupid.
Kurt angle is a 5 star wrestler
Kurt vs brock
Kurt vs shawn
I blame the ppl of today for dave cuz he been doing these reviews for decades and nobody never paid attention to him ,until these last 5yrs
Idk how angle vs hbk wasnt 5 stars
Who cares who rated what? It’s just an opinion. Do we get this triggered over Roger Ebert’s movie star ratings? I’ve never lost a wink of sleep in my life over why Ebert loved Scorsese films so much, so gave almost every one he saw the full four stars. Same way I’ve never been so bothered as to why Dave Meltzer much prefers Kenny Omega matches to Kurt Angle ones. Who cares?
The difference between all that is, there's tons of different people reviewing moviesb with Star ratings. But for wrestling it's only dumb dumb Dave. And he isn't even the one who came up with the concept for rating matches
The Rock, Edge, HHH, Mick Foley (all 3 characters), Mr. Perfect, Randy Savage (not even the classic vs Steamboat), Brock Lesnar, Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, Finn Balor, and Kevin Owens are just a few names that all have ZERO five star matches…yet Reigns and Lesnar have each won Meltzer’s wrestler of the year (Brock twice and Reigns once, getting 2nd the year after). Steve Austin has ONE, but he won Meltzer’s wrestler of the year 3 out of 4 years consecutively (and would have been 4 consecutive years had he not gotten injured). Shawn Michaels has ONE, but won Meltzer’s match of the year a record ELEVEN times! If that isn’t proof enough that the star ratings are bull 💩, this next point is the kicker. As a company (Raw, Smackdown, NXT, and all the PPV’s), WWE has exactly HALF the 5 star (plus) matches that Will Ospreay has by himself. Yes. A man who’s been alive 9 less years than WWE has been around as a national and worldwide company has exactly double the 5 star matches that WWE has. That’s how 💩 the star rating system is. Western audiences only knew the names Okada, Ospreay, and Omega bc they all have more 5 ⭐️ matches than WWE has total! And AEW (which has been around 5 years) has 11 more 5 ⭐️ (and plus) matches than WWE has - a company that’s been around for 40 years as the company we know. Unreal 😂 You’re welcome for not having to look this shit up yourself (to whoever’s reading this)
I agree with the cartoon
Dave’s five star ratings are rigged.
Of course they are he works for AEW why wouldn’t he rig it in their favor he buried himself when they asked him to explain the process behind the way it works and he contradicted himself at every turn
@@Taurean_Blackhehe Kurt angle sucks
Both Seth and Dave are so biased.
People get triggered by Dave's star ratings, but when I first got into wrestling it gave me a list of so many awesome matches to go watch.
I've always said dave is a hack. I'm glad people are finally starting to notice it. Seth is right, Dave is a good historian. But he's not a wrestler so to judge matches and rate them is ridiculous
The stars never meant shit back in the day
Weed is legal in california
The fact that Angle doesn’t have one says a lot about the ratings system and it’s definitely not good.
I like Seth now don't say that marks name
Kurt do got a five Star match Kurt vs undertaker at no mercy was a five star ✨ match
meltzer didn't give the 5 stars tho
Especially when this Dave guy has never run a wrestling business his opinion means no more than yours or mine
Kurt vs brock 5star
Good don't equal 5 Stars son
And does that freaking matter?
Dave who😂😂
😂😂😂
If Seth had like twenty 5 Star matches he'd never stop talking about it lol
You're one of the Melts.
Osprey has almost has like 40 of them & even he called out Meltzer of Kurt Angle not having a 5 star match.
People get triggered by Dave Metlzer's ratings, but then I first.... witnessed your mom giving me head was the greatest moment of your life. 🔥
Dave is biased. Cant even believe what he says .
Meltzer fans: "Who cares about a guys opinion , it's just that an opinion! Don't understand why people make such a big deal about it . I disagree with some of his ratings but you can't argue with him cause he knows more than anyone else about wrestling. All hail Meltzer AAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!! "
Meltzer is over
…the hill.
I heard meltzer and Tony Kahn got caught watching forbidden door repeat in a motel . Guess who wore the wig.......
Just swing on the dude one hand has the camera other has the gun and not even the right way
What?
Dave Meltzer knows absolutely jack shit nothing about judging a match so nobody has a 5 star match cuz his opinion is completely meaningless and useless
Seth doesn’t have any matches worth watching over and over that don’t involve “the shield” because he has a shitty gimmick, and he rips off wrestlers that get critical acclaim, then pouts and complains when he doesn’t get the praise for copying them. You can tell it’s a big deal because he’s acting like Dave is lord Voldemort. Its not Dave’s fault. He’s been watching wrestling for years as his job, so his taste is more expansive than the average wwe fan, in which seth likes to gather and rally against Dave when he’s feeling down or something is getting a lot of hype. Like Will Osprey. I’m sure Seth can’t stand that guy because he’s better than him. And if it’s pointed out, they say only Dave likes him because japan lol
So,Seth do you,yourself think you have a 5 star match because I can tell you me,you dont
Who give af about match ratings that’s not what wwe is about
He has tons of those 😂
What will he ever do without the approval of a bunch of IWC pimple faced geeks and meltzer 😂😂 Seth won’t ever get over