Shure SM7dB: A Great Mic That I Won't Be Keeping
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- The Shure SM7dB is a fantastic update to the legendary SM7B, but before you buy it it’s important to be "shure" that it’s the right mic for you. This video takes a looks at the SM7dB’s performance and breaks down who I think it IS for and who it is NOT for.
I also quickly want to point out that I never buy gear with the intent to return it for a refund after making a review. I’m returning the SM7dB because it’s an expensive mic that adds no benefit to my specific setup that the original SM7B doesn’t already cover. I had hoped that it would allow me to have that “SM7B Sound™” with a cleaner signal and less gain, but as the video shows, there’s no discernible difference with my equipment.
⚙️ Gear featured in this video:
•Shure SM7dB: geni.us/sm7db (Amazon)
•Shure SM7B: geni.us/tepsm7b (Amazon)
•Rodecaster Pro II: geni.us/rodecasterpro2 (Amazon)
•Rodecaster Arm: geni.us/bOkzyk1 (Amazon)
•Headphones: geni.us/rodenth100 (Amazon)
•Colored Windscreens: reporterstore.com
•Tabletop Mic Stand: geni.us/Ayyv (Amazon)
🎤 Mics used for comparison:
•Blue Sona: geni.us/sonamic (Amazon)
•Shure MV7: bhpho.to/42t9ngg (B&H)
•Shure SM58: geni.us/fNPEFQG (Amazon)
•ElectroVoice RE20: geni.us/re20black (Amazon)
•Samson Q9u: bhpho.to/3Ly6Wmt (B&H)
•Rode PodMic USB: bhpho.to/3HlqwPQ (B&H)
•Rode Procaster: bhpho.to/40nWaTS (B&H)
•Rode NT1 5th Gen: bhpho.to/40nWaTS (B&H)
•Lewitt LCT 240 Pro: geni.us/4fww (Amazon)
•Earthworks ICON Pro: geni.us/swicon (Sweetwater)
•Earthworks ETHOS: bhpho.to/3JQa23P (B&H)
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⏱️ Chapter Markers:
0:00 - Basics of the SM7dB
3:20 - The Conclusion: Why I’m Returning the Mic
4:39 - Who Should NOT Buy the SM7dB
5:47 - Who SHOULD Buy the SM7dB
7:45 - Running the Mic Directly Into a Camera
8:47 - What About Other Boosted Dynamic Mics?
10:09 - A Brief History of the SM7B
11:49 - What’s Included with the SM7dB
12:59 - Sound Comparison: vs. Original SM7B
15:00 - Noise Floor Comparison
19:31 - vs. Logitech Blue Sona
22:47 - vs. Shure MV7/MV7X
24:54 - vs. Shure SM58
26:24 - vs. ElectroVoice RE20
28:00 - vs. Samson Q9u
28:56 - vs. Rode PodMic USB
30:09 - vs. Rode Procaster
31:19 - vs. Rode NT1 5th Generation
32:46 - vs. Lewis LCT 240 Pro
33:30 - vs. Earthworks ICON Pro
34:14 - vs. Earthworks ETHOS
35:26 - Final Thoughts
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Episode 375: Shure SM7dB: A Great Mic That I Won't Be Keeping - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
If you're looking for some more mic comparisons, check out with video with 25+ mics, including the original SM7B, on both a male and female voice. It's by far the most in-depth comparison I've ever done (and also the most fun)! th-cam.com/video/QkxgSxBv6gQ/w-d-xo.html
After you return the SM7dB, get the Lauten Audio LS-208 or AEA KU5A if you want to spend a little bit more of your coins.
Where did you get the purple and blue windscreens? They are hard to find but look great. Would like to pick one up.
Just wanted to thank you up front for not making this baity. Your content is always great. I respect content creators a ton more when they don't do the obnoxious thumbnails or video titles with unclosed loops. Again, I thank you. Great video as always.
Thank you! This is probably about the closest thing to a negative review I've ever made (even though I DO like the mic). I definitely wanted to start off with the conclusion so it's clear that I'm not trying to clickbait anyone 😁
@@tombuck I think you did a nice job explaining that for your use case, it wasn't a good fit, given the low preamp noise from your Rode products.
Me on the other hand, I have a great use case for something like this in our baseball press box. Now I just need them to shell out the $$$$$$$. 🤑
This mic is a clear discrepancy of what consumer actually want vs what brands wants and what brands thought consumers want:
1) Brand thought with so many podcast using the SM7B, if they add the Shure logo, it will be free advertising for them. The only reason I'm not upgrading to 6 of the SM7dB and bought 6 Lauten Audio LS-208 is purely because of the logo that Shure added. If I don't use it hang down, the logo will be upside down unless I open the screw and rotate it and screw it back.
2) They beauty of the SM7B is how subtle it was, the black plate makes it look so clean, now they no longer gives you the back plate
3) It's nice that they make the switch easier to access, but what's the point if no one even uses the switches in the first place?
4) Build in Pre-amp 5 years too late, now entry level audio interfaces already have 69 db of gain like the latest generation Scarlett, 76 db of gain with the Rodecaster pro II/duo, 80 db of gain with mackie DLZ creator. How about studios? People will studio already have preamp like the 1073 which already have more than enough gain to power the SM7B.
5) The mic color (shiny) and proportion just looks wrong and camera, the elongated design with the taper, just make the mic looks weird, the original SM7B already look perfect, why mess with that?
6)Here's what people actually want, we want the next generation of SM7B
-Better sound so we can upgrade our current SM7B to the next generation SM7C. Maybe neodymium magnet? Improved capsule? Better internals? Lower Noise Floor with the same sound signature?
-The wire coming out from the side, we want it to be internal so it will look cleaner on camera
-Better yok mount so it's easier to screw
-Built in wire mesh pop filter inside the cage for the capsule, perhaps something like the JZ-PF pop filter
-We want the rest to be the same, because of the MAYA effect - Most Advanced, Yet Acceptable - To sell something familiar, you must make it surprising and to sell something surprising, you must make it familiar.
You really hit the nail on the head here!
Thx for the distance demonstration, that was exactly the information I was looking for. SM7dB it is for me! First time stumbling across your channel. Great content! Much appreciated!
Thanks for the time to make this. Yeah if you have a good enough setup you won't need the added benefits of the db, since it is exactly the same mic as the older version, I didn't expect any sonic difference anyway since micboosters are not known to color the sound too much. You can buy many types of mic boosters for less than 100usd like the fethead nowadays anyway.
Yeah, the CT-1 is quite good! I do appreciate the convenience of having a booster built in with no need for extra cables or anything, but I don't think it's worth $500.
@@tombuckI can imagine a few situations where you wished you spent the extra 100 , but that is mostly if you use it on tour or very disorganized 😂
But if a 100 makes the difference between being heard or not... It's not that much of a difference to not buy the option of (much) easier deployment. I know it is 25% more. But it's not an expensive item in the pro range of gear to begin with.
I wanna buy a Sennheiser md21 but can't find a review where it is tried with a bit more distance. If it doesn't mind 70cm too much I want a different setup 😂 any recommendations for the 21?
Loved these comparisons. I'm happy with my CAD E100S and MV7. After switching the MV7's screen to the SM7b's one has helped so much with plosives. Also, I totally forgot about the handheld mic being an emoji since I always use the vintage one that looks like a Shure 55.
Haha, I like the vintage one too 😁
You become my new GodGuru in 5 minutes. Absolutely love the conclusions and the presentation. Especially that you listed some hardwares that have enough gain for standard sm7b. THANK YOU!
Tom, another excellent microphone review. I always enjoy hearing your prospective on new microphones.
You mentioned the difficulty of mounting the Rode Procaster. I too was having problems. B&H included a shock mount with the Procaster that was similar to the Rode model free with the microphone. Because the Procaster is so heavy I had problems getting the microphone stay in my set position. Because of that problem I purchased a Gator Frameworks Universal Shockmount for 18-55mm Studio Condenser Microphones from B&H and placed it toward the middle of the Procaster. I did my best to find where the microphone’s balance point was. This new shock mount has solved my problems. I can now set the Procaster in almost any position and it will stay. This shock mount sort of mimics the “cradle” style mount on the SM7B and it does a much better job of isolating “handling noise” as well.
Hey thanks for this! I added it to my B&H wishlist. Such a smart idea!
Great review. Best review so far, HANDS DOWN!!!! Thanks for that
I just found you, your video is amazing bro 😊 I’m 8 minutes in and I got the info I needed. I’ve been looking at videos for 3 hours now.. Thanks 🙏🏽 back to the video.
Glad to hear it was helpful! Hopefully you can get the mic that works best for you.
I have been waiting for you review since it was announced
That means a lot to hear. Hopefully it's helpful!
Thanks for this video Tom and for your previous assistance on previous investments. For others, I recently made the leap from the Shure MVX to the SM7B running through the MVX2U using the Motiv app for basic eq and voice fx for a minimalist setup. Running sound through some external speakers for live video calls and have found with the sound rejection and Zoom's noise and echo cancellation - things run perfectly.
The db sounds better with the mvx2u tho
This is the best review of the shure mics out. Thank you!
Thank you! It means a whole lot to hear that.
I wanted to buy the SM7B and went with the SM58 and glad that I did. Being my first mic for voice over, I'm happy with it.
Oh nice! The 58 is fantastic. I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe it has the same or at least a very similar capsule as the SM7B.
Great that you went so much in detail in this video. I bumped up the audio in my headphones to hear those nuances.. I'm all with you regarding this new/old mic and understand who it's for 100%. On this end I'm still flaggin' out of sheer pride that I invested in an Earthworks SR314 because it's great, great, great. I use it both live and for studio, livestreaming.. I've even tested it in a church environment where my PA was quite close to me (BOSE L1), worked great. Oops, that wasn't a subject here, bragging.. But when you were showing and demoing that gorgeous EV-RE20, I've always favoured it more than SM7B, it sounded just great, despite plosives.. And, Tom, you can't spell an iMac without Mac 🙂 Cheers!
Im so glad for this video, it got rid of some gas i was having, i use an original sm7b and was wondering if i should be shooting to get the new sm7db, but this video turns out to be the best GASx for me, thanks for that. Saving me money within the first 5 minutes
Haha, happy to help relieve some pressure! 😁
Your voice sounds perfect on the procaster. I miss it as your main mic. If you can believe it, I suspect you sound even better on the Broadcaster!
Time for me to grab a coffee…. I’ve been waiting for this video!!
Great video Tom, super helpful 👍
Thanks Adrian! Hope you're doing well!!
@@tombuck yes thanks, wouldn’t mind chatting about this mic actually, I’m message you 👍
Tbh, I love my Samson Q9U, that I found due to your channel. I was using the Rode NT-USB which sounded good but I couldn't use any good pre-processing to make my voice sound cleaner with some post-processing software, also no clean gain boost. I'd like to get an SM7B but Q9U is doing everything for me. I do love how thorough you are with your reviews on it, even going back and reviewing them against others in similar style and prices as well as some higher priced items.
I still hate the mic its so muddy and disappointing compared to the q2u
I haven't slept much since I discovered this channel.
I am sorry. Please get some rest 😁
HELP! What should i get? Im a youtuber and i want to also do livestreams. I have 0 tech so far. Just a nice laptop, sony camera, and a rode on camera mic. What do you recommend? Sm7b or sm7db?
I definitely thing the dB is a potentially good mic for the new TH-camr who's just starting to get their own gear, has heard so many people say they "must" buy a booster and has gear that is not properly capable. But it is good to know that the same sound people have come to depend upon is still present in the dB.
Video Idea: Booster Alternatives - there are a few affordable mic preamps that can help deliver better quality sound and do more than simply boost the signal. ART Tube MP is a great little tube preamp whose V3 costs in the same range as a CloudLifter and the used V2 can be had for $40 or less. I've been playing with my old v2 lately (as I've been thinking more on outboard gear) with the RE20 and AM30 and have been enjoying the exploration.
I do have a booster video from a while back, but it could be worth trying out some different ones. Although with so many new interfaces having so much built in gain, I'm wondering if boosters overall are becoming a thing of that past?
@@tombuck Agreed on the interfaces with more boosted preamps but just as a thought, the recording studio world still uses preamps and outboard effects (albeit a price points much greater than the average TH-camr) to help shape the sound. I've been playing around with it lately to see if they will add a better dimension to our voice overs.
Great video Tom, made me think about something, if you didn’t do that already and I missed and/or if not already in the 100 video ideas that Heather and you came up with… maybe a video on how you approach effects/equalizing on the RCP would be cool… less the settings those being ‘personal’ and more the process…
Tom, I’m sure you have been asked this a thousand times but where can we find those beautiful pop filter covers for the SM7b?
Reporterstore.com! They're great!
Honestly my biggest problem is the logo on the side. I use an mv7 for streaming and I gaff tape the logo. The big appeal of the sm7b for me was not making every stream an ad for shure
It also doesnt make sense as a lot of people use it upside down too. It's such a big miss from Shure.
I mean that's super special interest, though. Everyone who googled "microphone" once in their lives knows what you're using just by the form of it, and that logo stands for quality. There are way worse brands to be "advertising".
Great breakdown as always.
Appreciate it!
@@tombuckso if you were starting from absolute scratch. Which one would you get? Im going to also want to do livestreams and be able to do like random edits and cuts during them. Not sure if that matters. Please help
Thank god u are making an review to the Shure SM7DB... i really have some question on it >.>
Hopefully this answers some of them!
Yep it did! Thank you very much
Hellooo! Loved the video, I have a few questions, so I’m getting a new mic (upgrading from Hyperx Quadcast) and I’m going to buy the SM7DB , but I need to know what do I need to buy along with it? I don’t know much about audio and in seeking some help , please
One of the great things about the SM7dB is that you don't need much else. You will need an XLR interface (any one should work fine since it has the built in booster, so something like a Focusrite Scarlett Solo is probably the simplest place to start.
Then you just need an XLR cable to connect it and probably a stand of some kind- either a tabletop one or a bigger boom arm. If you've already got one for your current mic, it should work just fine. 👍
@@tombuck that’s awesome! I saw in Shure’s website that I can buy a MVX2U along with the mic, is that necessary ?
@@WildSantiagoyou can use that as the interface if you want 😎
@@tombuck so I can just buy the mic, the MVX2U and a boom arm and I’ll be good to go? What do you recommend besides that? sorry if I bother but I get no help lol
Yep, and an XLR cable (I like the Rode ones because they're high quality and available in lots of colors, but any one will work). From there you should be good to go!
I been watching your vids since December, but just subscribe. nice vids!
Thank you! I hope they've been helpful!
@@tombuck informative! 👍
$500 is *wild* for what it is. I’ve found myself specing the Blue Sona in a lot of new builds these days, and the fact that it’s like 30% cheaper is a big question mark for Shure and this Sm7dB… like, who is gonna buy this?
I know there are die-hard SM7B fans out there who will pay extra specifically for it, but I just don't know how many of them there are who don't already have a powerful interface/mixer?
I upgraded from a Blue Yeti, but didn't have a mixer or any real audio equipment, so the SM7dB was perfect for me. The demo isn't existing high-end clients, it's people that are new to the space. @tombuck
A Cloudlifter sells for $149, so $100 increase over a vanilla SM7 is reasonable definitely not wild.
People who dont own an sm7b, a cloudlifter and just bought an audio interface
I bought the SM7dB. I have a 2i2 3rd gen and the extra gain headroom helps a lot. I like the blacker, glosser look and don't mind the logo.
Thanks for this!
Thanks Tom After your video, Im so clear now! I wiil get a Rodecaster + 7b. Prefer to spend more on the Rodecaster than get the new microphone.
Glad you found what works best for you! The classic 7B plus RCP is a GREAT combo.
Tom, I clicked the video because of the windscreen... now I'm looking at that store. Good stuff!
Yes! Reporterstore is great and everything is really high quality.
Hi Tom, Great video sir. I have a couple of questions for you, if you don't mind.
1) I'm looking at getting the Focusrite Vocaster One to use with the Shure SM7B. My first question is would using a Cloud Lifter result in any better audio than just using the Vocaster One by itself?
2) In looking into the Focusrite Vocaster One, it appears that it has a camera output. Does this mean that you can record audio from the Shure SM7B directly into the camera then? Would the audio be the same quality as recording into a computer? The camera I currently use is the Sony a6100 if that matters.
Thanks!
I've been researching microphones and podcast setups for weeks on TH-cam; this is by far the best video I've watched yet. Thank you!
Two Questions:
1. If you had to buy just one of these mics in this video, which one would it be?
2. For someone starting a podcast where they may have just one other guest at any given time, which RODECaster would you buy?
I came across this video cause I'm looking to upgrade from a cheaper XLR mic. I laughed out loud at "The only time I really recommend it is if you're using an audio interface like this one" and you hold up my exact audio interface.
Noted, dB it is, thank you!
Hey I guess the algorithm knew exactly what you needed! 😁
Thank you for producing this spectacular video. You've convinced me to not mess around in an attempt to outsmart the industry standard. I've been informed that my new SM7B has been shipped and should arrive in a few days.
I've been using the FFINE USB Condenser microphone. This mic truly is a wonderful value and has unusually rich sound quality for the price. However, now that I'm getting serious about recording I need my vocal tone to be as good as it can get.
Fifine mics really are an awesome value, but I'm shure you're going to love your new upgrade!
I need that pink pop filter like yesterday!
I know right? reporterstore.com - the color kicks all the butts.
Yeah honestly main reason I upgraded is because of my 3rd gen Scarlett 4i4. I got it for a crazy good deal years ago since the store I got it at had it priced for the price of a 2i2 and they honored it because they mislabeled it. I’m keeping this interface until it stops working so I upgraded from the mv7x to the sm7db, made a quick $50 off the cloudlifter I don’t need any more. Plus not having to use 2 xlr cables. Sorry for the pointless long story 😂
Tom, thank you for your thorough review! I appreciate it!
I Am new to having a mic, what would you recommend for someone who is just getting started, and doesn’t have any microphone setup equipment and who chooses a sm7b or SM7dB. Would you recommend SM7dB for newbies?
Great video!
Hey thanks man!
These videos are dope. The setup behind him is super dope too. It would be cool to own all those microphones and just play with and compare. Hopefully my podcast will give me the ability one day
Honestly, it's incredibly fun and I can't believe it's actually possible. Good luck with your show!
@@tombuck thank you Tom!! Keep up the great work
The SM7dB really is a mic for people who are ready to update their sound but not necessarily ready to switch interfaces it seems. To wit, a beginner who may have started their journey with a budget interface or at least one without crazy amounts of gain, may be using a less expensive mic with it. An upgrade for that person typically will not just be the interface, it will be the mic too. When considering the prices of new podcast interfaces, the SM7dB doesn’t look expensive at all.
For example, I have a Tascam MiniStudio Creator US 42b. It has 2 preamps and I have a Maono HD300T and the same Klark Teknik Booster you have. A decent setup that does what I have asked from it well, but it definitely isn’t being updated. But, fun fact for those who don’t know, the Klark Teknik Booster only has an EIN of about -120db which is about the same as the Ministudio. I can run the mic hotter, but I won’t improve my noise floor at all. Reports say that the EIN with the Booster on the SM7dB is more like -130dB which is a significant improvement to the noise floor for someone in my position.
So, when someone like me looks at the price of upgrading their setup, any old booster won’t do with an SM7B if I want to improve the noise floor and upgrading my interface either costs me a ton of money and adds preamps I won’t use or (in the case of the Vocaster) cost me a quarter ton of money and sacrifices features (the MiniStudio has 3 sound pads and records multitrack).
The thing that is often missing in reviews of Mic Boosters is the EIN they bring to the table. That is the puzzle piece that would help the most when choosing between the SM7dB, the Dynacaster and the Blue Sona and other mics of their ilk. I am not sure if it is scientifically possible to get better than -130db EIN but I would need to know what EIN the other mics are working with if noise floor control is my main concern (and for me it is, I actually like the MiniStudio). Hearing the mics compared on an already excellent but super expensive interface kinda leaves people with those less capable interfaces in the lurch because we aren’t hearing how they may sound on our systems.
People buying this mic have an audio interface might have a cheap mic like the Xm8500 and wants to upgrade to a legendary mic
I have a Universal audio apollo and still have to crank the gain for my sm7b to even get close to a good level. And that's nowhere near a "budget" interface
Fab video! Covered so much! I have an old Rode NT 1 for recording vocals but i’m
looking for something like the SM7b but now you got me looking at other options. Problem is i’m
getting keyboard sounds, even sustain pedal sounds on live recordings (wooden floor) and need a mic for clean vocals but that doesn’t pick up the keys sound or other outside noises and rumbles, is the SM7b still the best for that kind of environment?
thanks 🙏
Very few mics outside of like a Coles sports announcer mic will block out all environmental sounds, but the SM7B and SM7dB are pretty darn good at rejecting unwanted sound, and the shock rejection is second to none. It's really phenomenal how much handling/table/mic arm noise these things don't pick up.
great video!
This was an incredible review. Thank you.
Just curious, if you had the original Rodecaster Pro, would you recommend then going with the SM7dB... or do you feel it's still okay to go with the original (like you used to use?)
how this video has less than 400 likes? is one of those videos that you dont want finish, so good! and so nice that you spot the noise for something that is 499$. In tech we always need to be aware that new stuff is not necessary better.
omg this is actually perfect for me 😭😭I've had my heart set on the SM7B for years bc I love the sound as far as I've heard it from several of my favorite creators and musicians, and I've seen how it preforms on voices with similar ranges to me, doing things similar to what I plan to do with it. Add the fact that I hate handling noise and I like the look of the SM7B, and I've been very focused on it ever since. I, personally, do not have the budget for it as of currently - I'm a student, so it is what it is, but despite that, I've been set on it and refuse to get anything else. I know it's a bit ridiculous, but honestly? Yeah, I've seen cheaper alternatives, ones that would suit my purpose and are a tenth of a price, but I know how my brain works - if I buy a cheaper alternative, I'm going to be unsatisfied with it until I actually get an SM7B, in which case I'd end up spending more by getting the alternatives on top of the one I actually want.
*However.*
I'm absolutely HORRIBLE at cable management. I'm always getting tangled/having things fall apart/come unplugged, and it's insanely annoying. This issue is happening with the $5 microphone I got at a garage sale and a $2 cable, so I know it would be even worse with even more elements. As in love with the SM7B as I am, I've been absolutely dreading having to sort out the cables and the cloudlifter, since my audio interface doesn't have any sort of preamp. I found an amazon bundle for the SM7B, a cloudlifter, and the second cable I'd need to connect it all, and it goes for $600. I know there are cheaper options but I don't trust my own judgement enough to confidently pick something else, so I mentally settled for that bundle. I just went "I can't do that yet, but I'm willing to spend that to get it, so I'll bookmark this and wait until I can" because that's how much I want it. So, a $500 microphone that sounds exactly like the SM7B, not worse not better but _exactly_ like it (as again my interface doesn't have preamp like that), with the addition of easier-to-access switches (bc I'm the sort of person who loves to mess around with settings to see what works) and the gain built into it?? The thing I want most but without the part I'm dreading, for $100 CHEAPER than I was willing to pay for it??? Perfect for me.
anyways, long ramble bc I'm pretty much the exact target niche of this microphone, but I LOVE THIS VIDEO. I've spent ages watching various microphone reviews, trying (and failing) to find one that was cheaper but more appealing than the SM7B to me, and they often take forever to get to the point. This one was straight-to-the-point but in a way that kept me watching the whole time, and the comparisons were super helpful! Plus, I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone do a distance test of any sort?? Which is another part of why this is such a helpful video for me 😭tysm for this
With RC2, you will end having it sing 2 boosters.. I wonder how it would be compared in RodeCaster1(i have one, and there are now so many good deals on ebay, now) and SM7B with boosters vs SM7dB .. ..Every time i look at these SM7B mics, i find so obvious design flaw of cable, could go out of mic, just below, near of support, that would even hide it almost.. Nice video, as usual!
Since the built in booster is designed or built in collaboration with Cloud, I don't THINK there should be any difference between using an external one vs. the internal one with the original RCP. I honestly should've checked though before returning the mic!
Ordered a modded SM7b from Trace Audio with the Anser JFET circuit literally one week before this was released. Cost a bit more and does a similar thing but I swear their mod reduced the noise floor both with and without the boost turned on.
Probably a better way to go overall!
I think the Maono PD400X is worth a review
I’ve been really pleased with mine
Thanks for a great video. The silence noise into the microphones is lost on me as all I hear are the cicadas of tinnitus lol
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that! As a drummer, tinnitus has always been a huge fear.
I’m running the rode I forget what they are called mics. The $99 ones. I run those into a fethead straight into my pocket cinema 4k’s. Works awesome, however, after editing my first podcast I noticed why the SM7b’s are the gold standard. That rear rejection. The rode mics pic up EVERYTHING around them. I think these are on my radar 👍👍
The SM7B's sound and shock rejection abilities are pretty phenomenal and sometimes easy to take for granted. And since you've already got boosters, you can save some money by just going with the original 👍
@@tombuck yeah, I guess I could save the $100 or maybe even $150 if they go on sale Black Friday. I was just thinking less things to connect.
Hey Tom, I’d love to know what settings you’re using for your sm7b on your rcp2. Since you recently tweaked them it sounds fantastic. I know they’re unique to every voice, but id love to test them as a starting point. Do you have a video or a place where you have those settings handy?
Glad you like it! I used this awesome video as a guide: th-cam.com/video/U4hVGtdo5MY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=shLJ8d0vpylpWJky
But the trick is not to match everything exactly as he sets it, but rather tweak it for what sounds best to your specific voice.
Thanks for this! I immediately knew I didn’t want the dB once I saw that logo on the side. Also, I was hoping the dB had USB functionality! Basically this video made me realize I should look into the Blue Sona or something
Yeah, the Sona is really nice. I'm a little iffy on where Blue is now, but the mic itself is great and the design is phenomenal. Something I can't communicate via video is how good it feels in the hand and how high quality all the parts are. Even the little spinny thing that screws onto a mic arm is satisfying.
@@tombuckYou already sold it to him! no need to keep going :)
I think the original, with external preamp sounds noticeably better, fuller, more detailed in this video, compared to the dB with its internal booster turned on that I think looses some of those qualities.
Kind of funny, when you said I don't know if you can hear it but when I switch between the two, my tinnitus in my ears was like... uhhhh we've got enough signal noise up in these ear drums already. :D
Can you do an interface video too for beginners? Awesome content as always.
I'd love to! What are some specific questions that you think would be helpful to address?
Sounds good👍🎉
Hi, thank you for the great video. I want to buy an DBX 286s and I have an Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen USB Interface.
Would you still recommend the SM7db or get an SM7B?
Tom, can you share your sm7b settings you made on Rodecaster Pro 2? I saw a previous video where you create your custom settings for it.
For me: It was between SM7B + Cloudlifter CL-1 and SM7dB. Price difference was 10$ so I went with the SM7dB.
I like the logo on the db as someone who went through hell trying to find out what mic the sm7b is and which company it comes from. I hate how much longer the mic is and listening to this without headphones the mic for some reason keeps sounding like its clipping
Hey that's a good point- the branding does make it easy to decipher what it is!
Got a FetHead I use on my Procaster, works a treat.
The FetHead is my favorite booster by far! So good and reliable.
ya no Tom is GOATED 🐐.. wondering can you use it like a shotgun mic but close to ur mouth.. just out of frame? the sm7db or the sm7b with rodecaster pro or duo
To be honest, neither one is great from a distance. They really need to be close to the sound source to sound their best!
@@tombuck gotcha, TY!
*QUESTION Please* What are the table top mic stands being used in the video please? I looked at your gear list and couldn’t find them.
Their Samson MD5 stands, super affordable and work great! geni.us/Ayyv
I do use a Shure extension tube on them sometimes to boost the mic height a bit.
Bought it love it keeping it
When you first announced you were going to get the db, I was skeptical because it seemed like a SM7B but with a boost for $100 extra which didnt make sense since Logi covered that department with thr Sona. Now, w/your video I realize the Sona still wins because the noise floor was quieter and is CHEAPER!! Hello!!!
I think my question now is what are your settings on the RCPII for thr Sona? Do you use the preset for the 7B or have something specisl for the Sona?
I usually use the SM7B preset with the Sona, but I've been trying to spend a bit more time dialing in my own presets and saving them. I wish it were possible to export and share them!
I had a new SM7B in hand right when the SM7DB dropped and decided to go with the new version. Have yet to do any critical listening related to the noise floor but I’m hoping it is a negligible difference between the two.
I’d be curious to see a noise test with an SM7B plus Cloudlifter on a lower powered interface with less gain.
That compared to an SM7DB using the same interface boosted via the mic’s built-in preamp.
I should've done that while I had the mic! But truthfully, since the Sm7dB's internal booster is from Cloud, I can't imagine there'd be any discernible difference.
@@tombuck You’d think so, I know it was licensed by Cloud. And given the processing is onboard with less hops over XLR, etc it should be more efficient. I wonder though if the pre-amp implementation is as good/clean as a dedicated hardware lifter.
Something I learned from this video I didn't realize was what you were saying about the sm7b being designed for professional environments. I've been wondering why some people using the SM7b on here sound weak and lack dynamics while others (like you) sound like you're using a $3k voiceover microphone. I really wonder how many youtubers are just assuming the SM7b is plug-n-play magic, and don't realize it's not a Yeti or a Razer mic.
In addition to the mic and the desk stand, what would you say is the easiest/cheapest way to record audio? I don't want to have to buy a clunky audio interface and big/long XLR cable? I simply need something to record into, and I'll sync later. I wish Shure had a little device that you could just plug-in (similar to the Tascam DR-10X, but in 32-bit).
A USB mic is probably the simplest solution in that case. Something like the Sennhesier Profile or even a Rode Videomic NTG if you want to position it out of frame.
Please try the new Sony ECM S1 mic as well!!! It sounds very similar to a Sm7b!
Where did you get those rode earphone coloured ear cups?
I went with 2 sm57s with A2WS windscreens, and A55M shock mounts, like what the President uses. Actually looks a bit like an sm7 on camera, and sounds just as good through a DBX286 preamp. Paid $80 each on sale. $840 savings compared to two of these.
Such a great setup! And definitely an awesome price. My first "real" mic was an SM57 that I got 20 years ago and it still works perfectly.
Tom, with the SN7db boost switch off - is it then the same as a regular 7b - and no added noise. I.e. maybe I’ll use the +28 on my zoom but turn off on my Rodecaster Pro 2.
Yes, it's exactly the same as the regular SM7B 👍
As they say, "if it ain't broke..." The SM7B is a perfect microphone. I'm all for increasing usability and removing friction. But if you have one, just enjoy it. No need to upgrade everything.
What table top stand is that you have in this video? Or is it the one in your links?
well...if you ask me...I definitely think that there's no need to upgrade from SM7B to SM7dB if you've already been using the SM7B for all day. I just bought the Earthworks Ethos..which I think anyone should try for different taste of more sensitive mic additional to SM7B. And I also have the RODE casterpro II with that great mic preamp....another reason to stick to the epic SM7B.
BTW, I kinda doubt the durability of a dynamic mic with a booster inside...trash talk though
Hi Tom, do you have a more affordable analogue to digital converters to test these two? Cause you can test them with the cloudlifters and test which noise floor is better…say a focusrite scarlett or something like this. Cause this definitely will be a good insight to other people and can be added to this videos conclusion or something.
I decided not to include that in the video because there's really no difference to be honest and since the video was already nearing 40 minutes, I just didn't want to have more samples of audio that sounds the same 😁
The Sm7dB performs identically to the SM7B with a booster and is definitely a good choice for the first through third gen Scarletts 👍
I really wanted to the Shure MV7 or maybe the SM7DB, but the logo on the side is annoying to me. I might end up getting the SM7B instead because of the clean matte black look.
Love the classic style of the original!
Tom, honest question here. I know the new sm7db is pricey but say you had the opportunity to get the sm7db for 30-40% off its regular price, would you say its worth it? im trying to decide between getting a nicely discounted sm7db or if i go with the sm7b it will retain the same discount and be even cheaper 😅
That's a good question! If that 30-40% discount would apply to the original SM7B, that's what I'd get. But if it's a situation where the dB would be cheaper than the original, then I think the dB is the smarter choice 👍
Hey Tom would you be able to share your shure sm7b preset. on the rode caster... my rode caster and shure sm7b are really low in volume and I don't know why. I would appreciate it.
Love the radioactive magenta and cyan pop filters.
I wonder why they decided to put a large, garish logo on the dB, when one of the things that has made the "B" a large hit on the internet, has been the understated and discreet looks.
Sometimes I think companies don't realize what they have and decide to change for the sake of change.
I think they specifically wanted their name spammed on video podcasts, not realising that they already HAVE the most talked about microphone in that sector already.
This is by far my most favorite channel on TH-cam, other than my own...lol
Wow thank you! 🙏
where did you find your rode color ear cushions ????? nice colors
I bought that Klark Teknik booster a while back, and it was great, but the little clip that holds it onto an XLR port popped completely out of its housing. I can't get it back in, even after opening the booster up... Its basically a little paper-weight right now. I'd recommend anybody reading this to get the Cloudlifter or Fethead instead.
Oof that’s a bummer. But I agree that the FetHead is awesome
Where did you get the colored foam windscreens ?
Thanks for the no bs video.
reporterstore.com 👍
And thanks for the kind words! Especially on such long video
the sm7Db was made to be used for vocal production it’s targeted at musicians, before when you purchased a sm7b you had to buy a cloudlifter (or another pre amp) with it especially if you want to use it for music. if you have a sm7b with a preamp don’t buy it. if you don’t it’s a reasonable option like he said if you don’t want to hassle with pre amps and things of that nature
$669.00 CAD is relatively insane for a 50-year old dynamic mic with a small output upgrade. The original was already wildly overpriced. I imagine the streamer-hype is really guiding the price on this. Shure is surely laughing their way to the bank every week.
At some point I will probably buy an sm7b, but with an interface that already has enough gain. I don't want the new one because of the logo and the price tag, but I'm just wondering, will they totally replace the sm7b with the db version only ?
I can't say for sure, but I honestly can't imagine them replacing the original SM7B with the dB. They're definitely different mics for different purposes, so I'm sure the traditional version will be around for quite a while still. 👍
@@tombuck Yeah that seems fair, thanks for that insight :)
I wish I could get a Blue Sona, for some odd reason ever since moving to Japan, tech products are either impossible to find or ludacrisly expensive: about 700$ here on amazon Japan
I bought this microphone because someone told me that I could connect it directly to the camera Canon EOS R10 but I don't know how to do it. Can you help me because I don't want to spend more money on an interface or should I buy it? .... I just want to make vertical clips for Instagram. - But I'm not familiar with the technology to get into video editing and audio pasting. - Thank you for your videos, they are very good and easy to understand. The way you explain it with clear and specific language for those of us who are not related to all this.
Unfortunately this mic can’t connect directly to the R10 without the Tascam XLR2D adapter. It’s a great adapter, but pretty pricey.
It needs an XLR connection and phantom power to operate.
You should try out the new MiCreator Studio by Austrian Audio that I designed. We are really proud of it ⭐
I have the Elgato Wave DX with the Wave XLR would there be any point in changing to the Shure SM7B in the future I might also at some point in the future get a new XLR interface maybe the Bridgecast
So it has the Cloudlifter circuits inside? I prefer having them separate in case something fails your only out half of it. Question is will there be "Fake" SM7db's?
That's a good question- the counterfeit market is so frustrating.
The SM7dB is 3yrs To Late In My Opinion. During 2020 (Covid) this Mic could have sold more than the SM7B! Just A Thought Shure!!! What do you think Tom?
Hi, question for you or anyone kind enough to answer. Starting a podcast here and got the sm7db from the research I did. With the h6 zoom recorder, is that a relatively good set up? Considering we don’t know much about audio, I didn’t want to buy more like the cloud lifter for the sm7b. Figured I’d buy the db and just hold on to that without having to upgrade. Thanks
SM7B user here. I noticed that some devices from my desk make noise in my audio signal (Like RGB Led Strip (Philips HUE), or USB Charger adapter (Baseus), etc. when they are near my XLR-XLR cable from the SM7B to dbx 286s) When i turn them off i have less noise + lower noise floor on my signal. (Also seen it with Ozone Imager)
My signal chain:
Shure SM7B -> dbx 286s [using (Roland) XLR -> XLR], (Out) Mic level signal -> (In) Mic level signal
dbx 286s -> PreSonus Studio 24c [using (Roland) TRS -> TRS], (Out) Line level signal -> (In) Line level signal
Do you have less noise and lower noise floor when instead of having the signal from the mic boosted with a pre-amp at the end of the cable like i have it in my case with the dbx 286s (so any noise picked up by the cable in the middle gets boosted too because everything in the signal is being boosted at the end of the cable) rather than boosting the signal from from the mic from the start with a pre-amp like Cloudlifter (so any noise picked up by the cable in the middle doesn't get boosted with the signal because the signal is already boosted at the start of the cable)??
I have lot of devices on my desk and probably i'm gonna have more with time but i think that that has a bad impact on the noise on the mic signal.
(Software Engineer, not any audio-music related background) 🤔
I've had issues like this when using cheaper cables, but I haven't had problems when using nicer cables. The new Rode XLR cables seem to be pretty great (the cables themselves are Canare and the connectors are Neutrik). I also have a handmade cable from Allen over at the SoundSpeends channel and it's practically impervious to interference.
Traditionally in live sound applications lighting signals have always interfered with sound causing buzzes and other interference. Just a few ideas see if any apply.
As a general rule you should have non shielded power items at least 15-30cm (6-12 inch) away from the audio signals. Power/ lighting and audio cable runs should always be separated and cross as close to 90deg angles as possible, this way no current can be induced into the audio signal. This is an obvious one but, check to see if all the pins of the cable work correctly as it sounds like a shielding/grounding issue. Also check to make sure all units connected have the same power source and are all earthed with the same earth and the power is earthed/grounded. The connection between the DBX and the PreSonus should also be a stereo 1/4-inch jack to carry a balanced signal.
As Tom already mentioned the quality of the cable can be a factor. I generally use reasonable quality braided shield cables.
if you bypass the DBX does the problem still exist. If you are recording the DBX's aren't necessary for gain, just record at 70% gain on the PreSonus and boost in post.
If all this fails, say hi to the folks at your local music store. I hope you come right, Sm7's with the 286's are an awesome combination for steaming/podcasts.
@@julesc8054 Already checked all the pins of all my cables and they work correctly. All cables are Balanced (I only use XLR & TRS cables) and all cables are Roland high quality.
If i use the 70% Gain on the Presonus and boost in post, i will get the same noise from the cable because both signal gain boosts are happening at the end. (one at the Presonus and one in Post) i just haven't tried any pre-amp like a cloud lifter etc. that boosts the signal at the start of the cable, before that cable catches interference from other devices. I will try one when i can, if i can. 😉
Okay so I am super new to mics, I got a Hyper X one rn but my friends have an issue with it cutting out. Idk if I need a new mic but would the one in the video be good for someone who speaks low and has a deep voice??