The SM58 is gain friendly, the MVX2u can handle it just fine. Just be careful not to touch, bump the mic if you tend to get a little animated while singing metal, as it can cause little momentary spikes in the noise floor (airy/hissy sound) that can be heard in the quieter moments of your vocals. Not sure if they have fixed that yet in firmware updates since I last used it.
Great video. I'm thinking to buy SM7dB + MVX2U (instead of Focusrite 4i4 Scarlett) for a podcasting setup. My idea is to declutter the setup and make it easy to use. I'll be connecting directly this to my Sony a7iV.
1.28k subs only? is your channel brand new? i thought you had 100k subs with this sort of high quality production. anyways i subbed. great content, man! thanks for colored windscreen recommendation. love it.
Thank you!! Yes, I got serious just over a year ago. First 1k is the toughest, hoping now TH-cam will start helping push the videos a bit more this next year.
@@levelupwithmikenewman Keep going. Don't give up because of the low views. People simply don't know you exist. You need more exposure. All the best, man!
This mic is a clear discrepancy of what consumer actually want vs what brands wants and what brands thought consumers want: 1) Brand thought with so many podcast using the SM7B, if they add the Shure logo, it will be free advertising for them. The only reason I'm not upgrading to 6 of the SM7dB and bought 6 Lauten Audio LS-208 is purely because of the logo that Shure added. If I don't use it hang down, the logo will be upside down unless I open the screw and rotate it and screw it back. 2) They beauty of the SM7B is how subtle it was, the black plate makes it look so clean, now they no longer gives you the back plate 3) It's nice that they make the switch easier to access, but what's the point if no one even uses the switches in the first place? 4) Build in Pre-amp 5 years too late, now entry level audio interfaces already have 69 db of gain like the latest generation Scarlett, 76 db of gain with the Rodecaster pro II/duo, 80 db of gain with mackie DLZ creator. How about studios? People will studio already have preamp like the 1073 which already have more than enough gain to power the SM7B. 5) The mic color (shiny) and proportion just looks wrong and camera, the elongated design with the taper, just make the mic looks weird, the original SM7B already look perfect, why mess with that? 6)Here's what people actually want, we want the next generation of SM7B -Better sound so we can upgrade our current SM7B to the next generation SM7C. Maybe neodymium magnet? Improved capsule? Better internals? Lower Noise Floor with the same sound signature? -The wire coming out from the side, we want it to be internal so it will look cleaner on camera -Better yok mount so it's easier to screw -Built in wire mesh pop filter inside the cage for the capsule, perhaps something like the JZ-PF pop filter -We want the rest to be the same, because of the MAYA effect - Most Advanced, Yet Acceptable - To sell something familiar, you must make it surprising and to sell something surprising, you must make it familiar.
Subscribed, awesome video! I went through the comments but just want to confirm-if I have no setup and want to buy this once to get the best quality audio, would you recommend the: SM7dB + MVX2U SM7B + MVX2U MV7X (XLR) + MVX2U MV7+ (USB/XLR) + MVX2U Or another pairing.
I would personally go with the SM7DB with the mVX2U. That will all you need if you need to have some wiggle room to keep the noise floor down at 61DB 👍🏻
I would go with the USB capability. I favour the ability to use the Shure MVX2U with other mics in future. I am a voiceover artist who travels quite a lot and being able to have such a small but powerful interface is very helpful. I don't use or have a Shure SM7B or SM7dB though. I currently have the Shure MV7 which I got specifically because of the USB and headphone functions. I sometimes use the headphone port as an AUX port and plug it straight to my camera so I have great sounding audio straight to the camera without having to add it in the audio when editing later.
Good info here. I just purchased the SM7B, it’s goin into my PreSonus Studio 68c, spec sheet on the 68c says it has a mic gain range of 80db. The gain on my 68c has to be all the way up to get the level I need using the SM7B. I contacted PreSonus and asked if this was normal because Shure says the SM7B needs at least 60db. I wanted to know why I had to have the gain all the way up on the 68c (with 80db of gain) to get the level I needed on the SM7B. One of their audio techs said it was normal and would not harm the mic or the interface. I don’t know enough about sound to understand why: if the 68c has 80db of mic gain and the SM7B needs at least 60db of gain, that’s 20db extra and I still had to have the gain knob all the way up on the 68c. I decided to try a mic booster I had (Klark Teknik) with 25db and that was enough to lessen the gain on my 68c from all the way to around 3/4. I decided to try a better mic booster so I bought sE Electronics DM2 TNT inline preamp (the KT is also inline). The DM2 has 15db or 30db of boost and 8 different load impedance settings. I found that the DM2 plugged directly into my SM7B, with 30db of boost gain and 100k of impedance was best for my voice. Shure states that the SM7B needs “at least” 60db of gain but in my opinion I think it needs at least 80db. 😎
Yikes! Thanks for sharing that! Putting $500 on a microphone only to find out it doesn’t work with certain gear is definitely something to be shared with the community. The more you know - the better before making major purchases.
Almost sounds like one of the two is defective in some way. Have you contacted customer support for either company? They might be able to resolve it or replace it
Great video! I am hesitating between Shure MV7+ AND SM7dB + interface shure MVX2U (to make it USB). Which one would you recommend? I have no gears and want to do video podcasting/ youtube interviews with remote guest. I want to keep it simple but with good sound. Thank you!
That’s a toughie. They are both soooo good. I personally am looking the MV7plus for USB mic because of the software that comes with it. I have heard it is mindblowingly awesome. I will say though, whenever you want to do podcasts with a guest that will in with on you and not remotely appearing on your show, I go xlr. Just easier to manage two mics in person, and usb can be easier if it’s just you and your guest joins in from another location. Personally that would be the deciding factor if it were me.
@@levelupwithmikenewman Yes and the MV7plus do both Xlr and USB. I may just need a more advanced interface to plug 2 xlr in that case. Great to hear both setup sound good. I ordered and will test what sounds great and is more convenient.
For podcasting it is plenty. I would only go with more gain for paid professional voice over work, or singing. But the SM7B + MVX2U did just fine for me in this review
With my Shure Beta 58A and and it’s output of -51dBV @ 1kHz I need about 40dBV of gain. As such a struggle to see how the Shure SM7B with its output of -59dBV @ 1 kHz actually needs more than 48dBV of gain, let alone a whopping 60. I mean, yes, it need 59dBV if you want to amplify the 1kHz signal to 0dBV, but who does that? Even on a 16 bit recording you never go higher than -12dBVFS and on a 24 bit audio interface, you can easily work with a -24dBFS signal or even -27dBFS. And in terms of Headroom, it’s a reasonable choice to actually go for -24dBFS.
I feel dumb for asking but I have little tech knowledge let alone audio knowledge and I need a little help: so I want to get a Shure sm58 and connect the mvx2u to it so I can do heavy metal vocals with karaoke streams through obs on twitch. Is this logically sound or am I missing something? Thank you in advance this video has been very helpful in my research.
I have only heard it pop up in Rodecaster interfaces that have the onyx booster pre-amps. Not sure if it’s an onyx thing or just an interface with 70+ db of gain already in it.
@@levelupwithmikenewman I tested it them out together and for some reason it sounds so low and if i turn up the gain i hear too much background sounds. any suggestions?
I either use OBS filters to mix my audio or I adjust my EQ in post-editing in Davinci Resolve whenever I am using an interface that doesn't have EQ/processing capabilities built-in.
It’s right on that line with up to 65db of gain in the Apollo. Not sure if you max it to the 65 if that would introduce the noise floor into your audio. If I wanted to use an Shure mic with it, I personally would get the SM7DB and flip that switch for the built in booster to give me a little head room on the interface and NOT max out your gain on the interface to keep the airy noises from getting into your vocals. I get nervous anytime you have to “max out your faders” just to get your mic levels at the right spot. I always want to avoid maxing out on an interval whenever I can. SM7db would be my choice for the Apollo,
Hi can you tell me please Which one should I buy Sm7db+scarlet 2i2 4th gen Or SM7dB+ mvx2u İ am doing voice over and i have never had mic before.thank you
Yes. Absolutely. For someone who does not have an SM7B, and don’t have an interface with 70db of gain, THIS MAKES IT A GREAT BUY. but if you already have a SM7B and have an inferface with 70db of gain, it is not worth paying the 500 for features you’ll never be able to use.
@@levelupwithmikenewman but the thing is without the extra gained feature turned on the sm7db is it the same sounding mic and same internals as the Shure sm7b ?
@@levelupwithmikenewmanI want a lower noise floor. I do not have an audio interface. Do you recommend the sm7db with the mvx2u OR the sm7b with elgato wave xlr
@@enkeierickI would go with the SM7B with the Wave XLR. That has 75db of gain which is more than plenty of clean gain, plus you have more features in the wave as far as what you can do with your content compared to MVx2u. To me, the mvx2u is a great portable interface for those who are on the move a lot, where as the wave is a better fit for a set it and forget it set-up!
@@levelupwithmikenewman thanks a lot for the detailed message. What about the SM7DB with the MVX2U? Would that have a low noise floor lower than the SM7B with the MVX2U to you?
With only 55db of built in gain, you should be fine for live streaming or regular TH-cam videos with just a SM7B, but for voice overs, vocals or professional work I would go with the sm7db where cleanest gain possible is a must.
If you're somebody like me who records vocals and tries to release albums then you need the SM seven DB. If you're just somebody who podcasts or streams on TH-cam or has a TH-cam channel and just upload videos to TH-cam, no one's gonna care that you've got hissing because as you mentioned, TH-cam doctors up your audio anyway.
That is my fault. Lol. I was testing it out in all 3 settings in auto, dark, neutral, and bright. The SM7B can be such a dark mic, I wanted to see how good MOTIV was at changing a dark mic into a bright mic. I accidentally left it in bright for the video when I started recording, but switched back @ 6:34 to neutral for the sm57 during the cons/handling test. Made a HUGE DIFFERENCE in the tone and floor noise. I am making a review now dedicated to the MVX2U trying out all the tones with the SM7B, Q9U, LCT240 pro, and the sm57- 4 mics that are known for being bright, mid-forward, flat and dark to see how it handles them in giving you high, mid and low vocal tones. 👍🏻
Well there is a bypass button so you can still use it as if it’s a SM7B if you did upgrade to a higher end interface
The SM58 is gain friendly, the MVX2u can handle it just fine. Just be careful not to touch, bump the mic if you tend to get a little animated while singing metal, as it can cause little momentary spikes in the noise floor (airy/hissy sound) that can be heard in the quieter moments of your vocals. Not sure if they have fixed that yet in firmware updates since I last used it.
Great video. I'm thinking to buy SM7dB + MVX2U (instead of Focusrite 4i4 Scarlett) for a podcasting setup. My idea is to declutter the setup and make it easy to use. I'll be connecting directly this to my Sony a7iV.
Hey I have just got this same exact setup but not sure how to connect it directly to the camera. TH-cam search isn’t helping 😂
@@freakingmaddealsdid you find any solution and does it doable?👀
@@Suliman_b any luck on finding the solution to connect directly to the camera?
I am about to buy the same exact setup
Nopes connecting with camera didn’t work, but this setup is awesome
1.28k subs only? is your channel brand new? i thought you had 100k subs with this sort of high quality production. anyways i subbed. great content, man! thanks for colored windscreen recommendation. love it.
Thank you!! Yes, I got serious just over a year ago. First 1k is the toughest, hoping now TH-cam will start helping push the videos a bit more this next year.
@@levelupwithmikenewman Keep going. Don't give up because of the low views. People simply don't know you exist. You need more exposure. All the best, man!
His account is only about 3 years old
@@willycuh7 I only made roughly 4 total videos over the first two years…then decided to make a go of it a year ago. 👍🏻
This mic is a clear discrepancy of what consumer actually want vs what brands wants and what brands thought consumers want:
1) Brand thought with so many podcast using the SM7B, if they add the Shure logo, it will be free advertising for them. The only reason I'm not upgrading to 6 of the SM7dB and bought 6 Lauten Audio LS-208 is purely because of the logo that Shure added. If I don't use it hang down, the logo will be upside down unless I open the screw and rotate it and screw it back.
2) They beauty of the SM7B is how subtle it was, the black plate makes it look so clean, now they no longer gives you the back plate
3) It's nice that they make the switch easier to access, but what's the point if no one even uses the switches in the first place?
4) Build in Pre-amp 5 years too late, now entry level audio interfaces already have 69 db of gain like the latest generation Scarlett, 76 db of gain with the Rodecaster pro II/duo, 80 db of gain with mackie DLZ creator. How about studios? People will studio already have preamp like the 1073 which already have more than enough gain to power the SM7B.
5) The mic color (shiny) and proportion just looks wrong and camera, the elongated design with the taper, just make the mic looks weird, the original SM7B already look perfect, why mess with that?
6)Here's what people actually want, we want the next generation of SM7B
-Better sound so we can upgrade our current SM7B to the next generation SM7C. Maybe neodymium magnet? Improved capsule? Better internals? Lower Noise Floor with the same sound signature?
-The wire coming out from the side, we want it to be internal so it will look cleaner on camera
-Better yok mount so it's easier to screw
-Built in wire mesh pop filter inside the cage for the capsule, perhaps something like the JZ-PF pop filter
-We want the rest to be the same, because of the MAYA effect - Most Advanced, Yet Acceptable - To sell something familiar, you must make it surprising and to sell something surprising, you must make it familiar.
😎 well said my friend.
Yeah the number one beef I have with that interface is the headphone out! It just doesn't sound good, but hey at least it's no latency.
Latency is the big one...if thats off, the mic is a no-go for me.lol
Subscribed, awesome video! I went through the comments but just want to confirm-if I have no setup and want to buy this once to get the best quality audio, would you recommend the:
SM7dB + MVX2U
SM7B + MVX2U
MV7X (XLR) + MVX2U
MV7+ (USB/XLR) + MVX2U
Or another pairing.
I would personally go with the SM7DB with the mVX2U. That will all you need if you need to have some wiggle room to keep the noise floor down at 61DB 👍🏻
Curious - Which upgrade would YOU rather have?
USB capability like the MV7 or the SM7dB that has the built in pre-amp? Opinions???
I would go with the USB capability. I favour the ability to use the Shure MVX2U with other mics in future. I am a voiceover artist who travels quite a lot and being able to have such a small but powerful interface is very helpful. I don't use or have a Shure SM7B or SM7dB though. I currently have the Shure MV7 which I got specifically because of the USB and headphone functions. I sometimes use the headphone port as an AUX port and plug it straight to my camera so I have great sounding audio straight to the camera without having to add it in the audio when editing later.
Good info here. I just purchased the SM7B, it’s goin into my PreSonus Studio 68c, spec sheet on the 68c says it has a mic gain range of 80db. The gain on my 68c has to be all the way up to get the level I need using the SM7B. I contacted PreSonus and asked if this was normal because Shure says the SM7B needs at least 60db. I wanted to know why I had to have the gain all the way up on the 68c (with 80db of gain) to get the level I needed on the SM7B. One of their audio techs said it was normal and would not harm the mic or the interface. I don’t know enough about sound to understand why: if the 68c has 80db of mic gain and the SM7B needs at least 60db of gain, that’s 20db extra and I still had to have the gain knob all the way up on the 68c. I decided to try a mic booster I had (Klark Teknik) with 25db and that was enough to lessen the gain on my 68c from all the way to around 3/4. I decided to try a better mic booster so I bought sE Electronics DM2 TNT inline preamp (the KT is also inline). The DM2 has 15db or 30db of boost and 8 different load impedance settings. I found that the DM2 plugged directly into my SM7B, with 30db of boost gain and 100k of impedance was best for my voice. Shure states that the SM7B needs “at least” 60db of gain but in my opinion I think it needs at least 80db. 😎
I have the sm7db and volt 2 and when i activate the switch to preamp it wont work at all.
Yikes! Thanks for sharing that! Putting $500 on a microphone only to find out it doesn’t work with certain gear is definitely something to be shared with the community. The more you know - the better before making major purchases.
@levelupwithmikenewman it only works when I hit the 48 volt and that shuts off after a while
Almost sounds like one of the two is defective in some way. Have you contacted customer support for either company? They might be able to resolve it or replace it
Great video! I am hesitating between Shure MV7+ AND SM7dB + interface shure MVX2U (to make it USB). Which one would you recommend? I have no gears and want to do video podcasting/ youtube interviews with remote guest. I want to keep it simple but with good sound. Thank you!
That’s a toughie. They are both soooo good. I personally am looking the MV7plus for USB mic because of the software that comes with it. I have heard it is mindblowingly awesome. I will say though, whenever you want to do podcasts with a guest that will in with on you and not remotely appearing on your show, I go xlr. Just easier to manage two mics in person, and usb can be easier if it’s just you and your guest joins in from another location. Personally that would be the deciding factor if it were me.
@@levelupwithmikenewman Yes and the MV7plus do both Xlr and USB. I may just need a more advanced interface to plug 2 xlr in that case. Great to hear both setup sound good. I ordered and will test what sounds great and is more convenient.
Is SM7B + MVX2U enough with gain? Or you should go with SM7db + MVX2U? Thanks
For podcasting it is plenty. I would only go with more gain for paid professional voice over work, or singing. But the SM7B + MVX2U did just fine for me in this review
I have the MVX2U. I love it! For a small device it does wonders for your mics!!
It is my go-to when I go on vacations, need to travel. Kick-butt audio and takes up so little space in your travel bag!!!
@@levelupwithmikenewman it really is a little portable powerhouse!
Will this plug in right into my Goxlr Telecom and work without any other hardware??
With my Shure Beta 58A and and it’s output of -51dBV @ 1kHz I need about 40dBV of gain. As such a struggle to see how the Shure SM7B with its output of -59dBV @ 1 kHz actually needs more than 48dBV of gain, let alone a whopping 60. I mean, yes, it need 59dBV if you want to amplify the 1kHz signal to 0dBV, but who does that? Even on a 16 bit recording you never go higher than -12dBVFS and on a 24 bit audio interface, you can easily work with a -24dBFS signal or even -27dBFS. And in terms of Headroom, it’s a reasonable choice to actually go for -24dBFS.
I feel dumb for asking but I have little tech knowledge let alone audio knowledge and I need a little help: so I want to get a Shure sm58 and connect the mvx2u to it so I can do heavy metal vocals with karaoke streams through obs on twitch. Is this logically sound or am I missing something? Thank you in advance this video has been very helpful in my research.
I have the Shure SM7db and the mini go xlr. Will I still hear the hissing sound?
I have only heard it pop up in Rodecaster interfaces that have the onyx booster pre-amps. Not sure if it’s an onyx thing or just an interface with 70+ db of gain already in it.
@@levelupwithmikenewman I tested it them out together and for some reason it sounds so low and if i turn up the gain i hear too much background sounds. any suggestions?
Great video Mike question what software do you use if you have a audio interface to adjust your voice the way you want it
I either use OBS filters to mix my audio or I adjust my EQ in post-editing in Davinci Resolve whenever I am using an interface that doesn't have EQ/processing capabilities built-in.
@@levelupwithmikenewman thanks for the insight my friend I know your glad you didn't have to spend that extra 500 on the Shure sm7bd
@@CharlieB86 absolutely!!! 😅
So no need for a cloudlifter with the MVX2u? Can anyone confirm?
It has 60db of built in gain…and that is what Shure recommends for the SM7B, so it will definitely handle it. 👍🏻
Hello, buy me an Apollo alone, it will work well for me Shure M7B, will I have to go for a new Shure 7DB? please help
It’s right on that line with up to 65db of gain in the Apollo. Not sure if you max it to the 65 if that would introduce the noise floor into your audio. If I wanted to use an Shure mic with it, I personally would get the SM7DB and flip that switch for the built in booster to give me a little head room on the interface and NOT max out your gain on the interface to keep the airy noises from getting into your vocals.
I get nervous anytime you have to “max out your faders” just to get your mic levels at the right spot. I always want to avoid maxing out on an interval whenever I can. SM7db would be my choice for the Apollo,
Hi can you tell me please
Which one should I buy
Sm7db+scarlet 2i2 4th gen
Or SM7dB+ mvx2u
İ am doing voice over and i have never had mic before.thank you
with the Shure sm7db can' you just turn off the extra gain feature and just use it if needed so it does not hiss?
Yes. Absolutely. For someone who does not have an SM7B, and don’t have an interface with 70db of gain, THIS MAKES IT A GREAT BUY. but if you already have a SM7B and have an inferface with 70db of gain, it is not worth paying the 500 for features you’ll never be able to use.
@@levelupwithmikenewman but the thing is without the extra gained feature turned on the sm7db is it the same sounding mic and same internals as the Shure sm7b ?
@@levelupwithmikenewmanI want a lower noise floor. I do not have an audio interface. Do you recommend the sm7db with the mvx2u OR the sm7b with elgato wave xlr
@@enkeierickI would go with the SM7B with the Wave XLR. That has 75db of gain which is more than plenty of clean gain, plus you have more features in the wave as far as what you can do with your content compared to MVx2u. To me, the mvx2u is a great portable interface for those who are on the move a lot, where as the wave is a better fit for a set it and forget it set-up!
@@levelupwithmikenewman thanks a lot for the detailed message. What about the SM7DB with the MVX2U? Would that have a low noise floor lower than the SM7B with the MVX2U to you?
What if you have scarlet solo gen 3? Would you recommend this or the original SM7B?
With only 55db of built in gain, you should be fine for live streaming or regular TH-cam videos with just a SM7B, but for voice overs, vocals or professional work I would go with the sm7db where cleanest gain possible is a must.
If you're somebody like me who records vocals and tries to release albums then you need the SM seven DB. If you're just somebody who podcasts or streams on TH-cam or has a TH-cam channel and just upload videos to TH-cam, no one's gonna care that you've got hissing because as you mentioned, TH-cam doctors up your audio anyway.
Couldn’t agree more. This is podcast gear. if your recording vocals this is not the way to go 👍🏻
5885 Orn Neck
The mic sounds so high pitched and no bass.
That is my fault. Lol. I was testing it out in all 3 settings in auto, dark, neutral, and bright. The SM7B can be such a dark mic, I wanted to see how good MOTIV was at changing a dark mic into a bright mic. I accidentally left it in bright for the video when I started recording, but switched back @ 6:34 to neutral for the sm57 during the cons/handling test. Made a HUGE DIFFERENCE in the tone and floor noise.
I am making a review now dedicated to the MVX2U trying out all the tones with the SM7B, Q9U, LCT240 pro, and the sm57- 4 mics that are known for being bright, mid-forward, flat and dark to see how it handles them in giving you high, mid and low vocal tones. 👍🏻
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