I felt exactly the same just getting back into the hobby after a decade plus hiatus. I painted 10 Admech Rangers, really enjoyed the process, patted myself on the back, and straight away wanted to do something different, which lead me to painting The Hedonites of Slaanesh and trying out oil paints for the very first time.
Very good advice Jay ! In my case some of the greatest skill building "experience" and skills came from painting models that had no "consequences" in my on going long term projects because it freed me up to try and work on new techniques and skills and make some mistakes. It allowed me to paint bravely. In fact one of the best uses for my 3D printer was the ability to make "test" models that removed even more fear of failure because I could "just print another" if I really screwed one up. Yeah, I could have painted over it or stripped it, too. I just anted to keep some examples of bad outcomes to keep things real. When one prints a model it becomes a lot more reasonable to do this price wise because the model costs only the cost of the plastic/resin and time printing. Rock on with your bad self bro !!!
Well said guys! I've been putting this into practice painting up a retro Heroquest box recently, just in fun weird ways! Its been a huge help getting back into the hobby and not burning out!
I love Reaper's metal miniature line. I have a reserve of primed Reaper minis, so whenever I hit a painting slump I'll take one of those Reaper characters and just do something different. It's very refreshing. I encourage everyone to occasionally try painting some random character that is not attached to any game or project.
Great advice man. I recently bought a 3d printer and i got distracted by all the possibilities and started downloading free stl files but never printing them. One group of sculpts all ways came back. So now I decided to print them. Skaven guard is my new project. On a FDM printer just to prove you don’t need a resin printer
I just put together a Primaris Lieutenant for practice - not my army, but I had him lying around by chance. I'll start painting him tomorrow once the wood glue dries.
I've been taking a solid break from GW and painting random malifeaux or whatever has caught my eye, and the random models I've been doing has been a blast
0:50 lol... I stayed away from "groups" of units as much as possible, only doing mass painting when it came to board-game minis. I usually paint individuals, which helped me stay away from paint-schemes until much later. It's cool to hear about the journey in the opposite way.
I agree. When I bought some extra minis outside of my 40k army, I started taking a lot more risks and expanding my technique. My favorites come from Raging Heroes and Puppetswar
Good advice. As with everything, one has to remember better is the eternal enemy of good. Doesn't mean one should not try to improve, but there are tiers. Just like not everyone is as fast as Bolt, not everyone can be a Giraldes. Making YOUR models/army is way more important then trying to achieve levels you will never achieve. Specially when you paint twice a month for 2 hours and try to achieve levels of people whose job is to paint.
Coming into the game I started with DG council of the death lord box, plague marine box, blightlord terminator box, deathshroud terminator, 2 blighthaulers and a plague burst crawler. I was seen DG green in my dreams half way through the project. I needed a break so I went to the local game store and instead if going to the 40k section I sifted into the D&D minis and found a Beholder that just made me actually wanna paint. I got the little guy staring me down whenever I paint right in my face to remind me to take a break for the core of the project and divert to somewhere that is more interesting at the time.
I agree. I get bored painting the same type of minis and the same colors. That's why my main army are chaos demons, they are colorful and have different sculpts all of the army. I even went a step further and painted each model in a unit differently (at least different shades of the same color). And most importantly I wrote down how I achieved all the color combinations so I can replicate the ones I like later. Now I am switching from demons to Drukhari to paint some edge highlights on all those that spiky armor. And every one is a different color combination (I have a lore reason for that). It is taking me ages to paint them, but I enjoy it very much!
Heck yeah, dude! The first minis I ever bought were the Enclave Tesla troopers from the Fallout game. I still love them and the fallout games, especially New Vegas
Fixer's cloak is wonderful. I do like to paint some different minis from time to time too, it's a breath of fresh air and helps keep the creative juice flowing.
Glad to see some Fallout New Vegas love. It's absolutely my favorite game of all time. Glad to hear about your inspirations and how your painting changed over the years. I just got into the hobby and I think my work is looking a lot better than I ever thought. Love your vids! You got a sub.
Other people forcing me out of my comfort zone is what makes me better. Last month I did a commission for someone who wanted a tiger person. I would have never done anything like tiger stripes for myself, but I accepted the challenge and it turned out great!
I found the marvel crisis protocol game as a nice way of being forced to paint different colours. Everyone has their own unique coloured costumes that are meant to be different materials, and theres both human skin tones and alien skin tones. One day it was painting wood with Groot, the next was black leather with Black widow. It was expensive having to get new paint with each model but it really made me grow in skill.
Bought the Darkest Dungeon Boardgame for this exact reason, simply as a fan of the art and everything else is a bonus. Cant wait to get it. Especially the Plague Doctor, speaking of which, the Reaper models are some of the best looking ones around and yours is stunning.
Recently finished my first ever kitbash. The fafnir rann model into a berserker champion. And I had so much fun making him chaosy that I want to do more kitbashing. An idea thats been rattling around in my head is dioramas for some of my favourite characters from book and series. Like b*tch and her dogs, the fairy queen and her ghosts. Grue in his darkness cloud
In a similar vein, try painting stuff in a different scale! Painting some airplanes or spaceships or other epic scale (aka 6mm) or try painting something larger scale, a bust or 74mm scale mini. Cars Wars/Gaslands can also be an interesting departure from regular painting. Gunpla can also be an interesting breath of fresh air.
That feeling of putting in a lot of time for a model is one I just experienced, yeah it's probably the best one I've ever done and I did some new things. But it wasn't all that enjoyable due to the pressure I put myself under
unplanned experimentation is actually how i started my tyranid army. I wanted to paint something that wasn't space marines and admech, and bought a tyranid lictor. and now tyranids are my favourite army in warhammer
100%! I started seriously cutting into my pile of shame at the beginning of the pandemic. Bounced around a lot of projects at once to stay motivated rather than get bogged down on one long project.
I am doing this with army painting. I am subscribed to one page rules and decided to do 1500 points of every army they come out with (roughly 750 warhammer) and for each army I am picking two different styles to mix together. Alien hive, zenithal and lots of washes that blend together, tau heavy black lining comic book style, Eternal Dynasty airbrush and pastel soft core pencil, robot legion airbrush and dry brushing. Keeps if fun I really should just build a random app that throws together a handful of techniques and maybe even matching color schemes.
You need to do something with your hair, I don't know, perm it into small curls and trim it into ball shape. Those happy little accidents won't happen by themselves, you know?
I'm in a funk where I'm too tired and hurting when I come home from my crap soul sucking job to be creative. Because of that I've been more "collecting" than building and painting.
LOL, I did that for years! I "survived" that part of my life but it was not rewarding. In 2009 I retired due to the job market (I was in my early 60's then). Wow what a difference. A life force sucking job really cuts into one's energy available to create and paint. Keep the faith, J. Things eventually get better. ;)
Lots about painting is "blue collar" attitude necessary (show up and do the work) which builds the discipline, but spreading your wings and experimenting with things that have minimal consequences is important.
@@EonsOfBattle thanks, I liked your point in the video, I’m trying out a bunch of fantasy minis in between my 40k army painting to get some variation in technique and color and subject
One of my biggest hobby frustrations is how my skills seem to be going backwards. I've been painting miniatures on-and-off for about twenty years, and I'm finding that even the basics make me struggle in ways they never used to: undercoats have lousy coverage, basecoats are patchy, highlights are all over the place. There was a time I was even making some progress into blending, but now that just doesn't work at all. I've got cases full of half-finished projects because I just can't stand working on them anymore.
This channel uploads while I’m at school so I can come home to 3 uploads per week! It’s great! But, if you two feel burned out from painting or TH-cam I think the community would be fine if you took a break. Especially if you kept streaming.
Think you'll do a video of how you do the "thatching"? It looks amazing on your model. When i try it always comes out too thick and just not right. lol
The secret of how i got decent fast, was to just getting to know all the techniques and tools from youtube videos, wetpallette, thinning paints, more than one layer, drybrushing, wet blending, edge highlighting, moldscraping, drilling barrels and so on. so it's really strange to me when i see paint jobs not getting the basics right, when we have so much knowledge so easily accessible on the internet. i'd say 65% of getting a model to look decent/good, is just knowing ''how to'' the rest is training and how artistic you are.
Every last one of my space marines has a different paint scheme. In my head, they are just encouraged to customize their armor, like spartans from halo
Literally just had the same revelation that I had to stop batch painting so many models in a short period of time. Thanks for the vid.
The Mantis is from the 'Ignis Quadrant' by EC3D Design. It was a Kickstarter a few years back, lots of good models for Starfinder :)
I felt exactly the same just getting back into the hobby after a decade plus hiatus. I painted 10 Admech Rangers, really enjoyed the process, patted myself on the back, and straight away wanted to do something different, which lead me to painting The Hedonites of Slaanesh and trying out oil paints for the very first time.
Love the evolution on your painting journey
Jay is a shonen protagonist and Nick is the narrator
Very good advice Jay !
In my case some of the greatest skill building "experience" and skills came from painting models that had no "consequences" in my on going long term projects because it freed me up to try and work on new techniques and skills and make some mistakes. It allowed me to paint bravely.
In fact one of the best uses for my 3D printer was the ability to make "test" models that removed even more fear of failure because I could "just print another" if I really screwed one up. Yeah, I could have painted over it or stripped it, too. I just anted to keep some examples of bad outcomes to keep things real. When one prints a model it becomes a lot more reasonable to do this price wise because the model costs only the cost of the plastic/resin and time printing.
Rock on with your bad self bro !!!
Well said guys! I've been putting this into practice painting up a retro Heroquest box recently, just in fun weird ways! Its been a huge help getting back into the hobby and not burning out!
I love Reaper's metal miniature line. I have a reserve of primed Reaper minis, so whenever I hit a painting slump I'll take one of those Reaper characters and just do something different. It's very refreshing. I encourage everyone to occasionally try painting some random character that is not attached to any game or project.
Your enthusiasm and dedication to the craft is inspiring :)
Genuinely one of my favourite people's in the hobby. Just a joy.
Great advice man. I recently bought a 3d printer and i got distracted by all the possibilities and started downloading free stl files but never printing them. One group of sculpts all ways came back. So now I decided to print them. Skaven guard is my new project. On a FDM printer just to prove you don’t need a resin printer
I just put together a Primaris Lieutenant for practice - not my army, but I had him lying around by chance. I'll start painting him tomorrow once the wood glue dries.
Wood glue??
Who uses wood glue for plastic minis?!
@@stefan020290 Maniacs
Does wood glue even work on plastics? And why use wood glue for minis anyway?
He did not say he used wood glue to build the model. Base maybe ?
I've been taking a solid break from GW and painting random malifeaux or whatever has caught my eye, and the random models I've been doing has been a blast
0:50 lol... I stayed away from "groups" of units as much as possible, only doing mass painting when it came to board-game minis. I usually paint individuals, which helped me stay away from paint-schemes until much later. It's cool to hear about the journey in the opposite way.
That Fallout figure is excellent, nice
I agree. When I bought some extra minis outside of my 40k army, I started taking a lot more risks and expanding my technique. My favorites come from Raging Heroes and Puppetswar
Good advice. As with everything, one has to remember better is the eternal enemy of good. Doesn't mean one should not try to improve, but there are tiers. Just like not everyone is as fast as Bolt, not everyone can be a Giraldes. Making YOUR models/army is way more important then trying to achieve levels you will never achieve. Specially when you paint twice a month for 2 hours and try to achieve levels of people whose job is to paint.
Those are some seriously gorgeous miniatures!
Coming into the game I started with DG council of the death lord box, plague marine box, blightlord terminator box, deathshroud terminator, 2 blighthaulers and a plague burst crawler. I was seen DG green in my dreams half way through the project. I needed a break so I went to the local game store and instead if going to the 40k section I sifted into the D&D minis and found a Beholder that just made me actually wanna paint. I got the little guy staring me down whenever I paint right in my face to remind me to take a break for the core of the project and divert to somewhere that is more interesting at the time.
I agree. I get bored painting the same type of minis and the same colors. That's why my main army are chaos demons, they are colorful and have different sculpts all of the army. I even went a step further and painted each model in a unit differently (at least different shades of the same color). And most importantly I wrote down how I achieved all the color combinations so I can replicate the ones I like later.
Now I am switching from demons to Drukhari to paint some edge highlights on all those that spiky armor. And every one is a different color combination (I have a lore reason for that). It is taking me ages to paint them, but I enjoy it very much!
Heck yeah, dude! The first minis I ever bought were the Enclave Tesla troopers from the Fallout game. I still love them and the fallout games, especially New Vegas
Your channel is amazing; thanks for your great videos - I love your intro music too!
Love the intro music
The last 2 intros slapped too
Fixer's cloak is wonderful.
I do like to paint some different minis from time to time too, it's a breath of fresh air and helps keep the creative juice flowing.
Great video. I recently started painting random D&D models just to paint something different than my Bloody Rose sisters. This is great advice.
Glad to see some Fallout New Vegas love. It's absolutely my favorite game of all time. Glad to hear about your inspirations and how your painting changed over the years. I just got into the hobby and I think my work is looking a lot better than I ever thought. Love your vids! You got a sub.
Other people forcing me out of my comfort zone is what makes me better.
Last month I did a commission for someone who wanted a tiger person. I would have never done anything like tiger stripes for myself, but I accepted the challenge and it turned out great!
I found the marvel crisis protocol game as a nice way of being forced to paint different colours. Everyone has their own unique coloured costumes that are meant to be different materials, and theres both human skin tones and alien skin tones.
One day it was painting wood with Groot, the next was black leather with Black widow. It was expensive having to get new paint with each model but it really made me grow in skill.
Almost all of my favourite paint jobs are minis I picked up and thought "I don't care about this one, I'll just have some fun relaxing paint time"
This is a big deal. Great concept. I tend to work on several different concepts/models simultaneously.
Bought the Darkest Dungeon Boardgame for this exact reason, simply as a fan of the art and everything else is a bonus. Cant wait to get it. Especially the Plague Doctor, speaking of which, the Reaper models are some of the best looking ones around and yours is stunning.
Recently finished my first ever kitbash. The fafnir rann model into a berserker champion. And I had so much fun making him chaosy that I want to do more kitbashing. An idea thats been rattling around in my head is dioramas for some of my favourite characters from book and series. Like b*tch and her dogs, the fairy queen and her ghosts. Grue in his darkness cloud
In a similar vein, try painting stuff in a different scale! Painting some airplanes or spaceships or other epic scale (aka 6mm) or try painting something larger scale, a bust or 74mm scale mini. Cars Wars/Gaslands can also be an interesting departure from regular painting. Gunpla can also be an interesting breath of fresh air.
Hi Jay just picked up the new Maugan Ra just to paint him...I no play Eldar. Keep up the great work.
I play forces of Nature for Kings of War. Few of my units share the same publisher. My first army painting is painting all different stuff x)
Amazing tips, Im going to try painting some random cool indie models. The little robot dude looks like Lord Helmet from Space Balls!
That feeling of putting in a lot of time for a model is one I just experienced, yeah it's probably the best one I've ever done and I did some new things. But it wasn't all that enjoyable due to the pressure I put myself under
this video was a really good reminder that the hobby, can be about fun, experimenting and growth! it's too easy to let painting become a slog
I recently began painting models that catch my eye, so much fun!!
I think that makes a lot of sense; so far I’ve only used terrain as an “enthusiasm recharger”, but little rando cuties would work great!
unplanned experimentation is actually how i started my tyranid army. I wanted to paint something that wasn't space marines and admech, and bought a tyranid lictor. and now tyranids are my favourite army in warhammer
Paint that which sparks joy 😊
100%! I started seriously cutting into my pile of shame at the beginning of the pandemic. Bounced around a lot of projects at once to stay motivated rather than get bogged down on one long project.
that mantis man is a starfinder model i think? looks like one
do you have a video on the thatching technique, you used on the purple cloak ?
I am doing this with army painting. I am subscribed to one page rules and decided to do 1500 points of every army they come out with (roughly 750 warhammer) and for each army I am picking two different styles to mix together. Alien hive, zenithal and lots of washes that blend together, tau heavy black lining comic book style, Eternal Dynasty airbrush and pastel soft core pencil, robot legion airbrush and dry brushing. Keeps if fun I really should just build a random app that throws together a handful of techniques and maybe even matching color schemes.
Your right dude, gotten much better by painting random Blood Bowl models for a friend
The neon and OSL etc you could have on that fixer would be wicked!
i remember all of these, the good ol days :)
You need to do something with your hair, I don't know, perm it into small curls and trim it into ball shape. Those happy little accidents won't happen by themselves, you know?
Immediately thought about FTL when I saw the mantis, yay!
i'd love to see you cover more wasteland warfare, the new vegas NCR faction is available and look great
2:13
Everyone just Audibly gasped when they realized it's free hand
Where did you obtain that sweatshirt? I need it!
Why in the intro are your black templars in a yellow disguise? Also how did you get good at TH-cam in terms of branding and editing?
Is that plague doctor just called plague doctor? She would be a pretty sweet model for one of my Pathfinder characters.
The name of that miniature is Sister Hazel, Plague Doctor
@@JMcMillen Thanks, I'll check her out.
If you are having fun, then you are hobbying correctly.
You should paint the screen of the robot with a TV show, ( I personally like an Ork puppet show) then do the neon signs.
It should be Jay shilling on the screen!
I have a whole bunch of cool reaper and other misc minis I should paint.
First on my list is Edna the crazy cat lady from reaper
I'm in a funk where I'm too tired and hurting when I come home from my crap soul sucking job to be creative.
Because of that I've been more "collecting" than building and painting.
LOL, I did that for years!
I "survived" that part of my life but it was not rewarding.
In 2009 I retired due to the job market (I was in my early 60's then). Wow what a difference. A life force sucking job really cuts into one's energy available to create and paint.
Keep the faith, J. Things eventually get better. ;)
Lots about painting is "blue collar" attitude necessary (show up and do the work) which builds the discipline, but spreading your wings and experimenting with things that have minimal consequences is important.
I miss the part the part where you got the awesome gunner in green from? Looks brilliant
Been holding out on infinity models. Im gonna buy them now :)
How did you do the curb? It amps the road base up to another level
its made from cut-up plasticard tubing
@@EonsOfBattle thanks, I liked your point in the video, I’m trying out a bunch of fantasy minis in between my 40k army painting to get some variation in technique and color and subject
Where can I get that Fixer mini? It reminds my of Saga comic book and I need it.
Fire, your encouraging me to paint more minis
DONT FORGET TOOO
I painted my first HQ like 8 months
One of my biggest hobby frustrations is how my skills seem to be going backwards. I've been painting miniatures on-and-off for about twenty years, and I'm finding that even the basics make me struggle in ways they never used to: undercoats have lousy coverage, basecoats are patchy, highlights are all over the place. There was a time I was even making some progress into blending, but now that just doesn't work at all. I've got cases full of half-finished projects because I just can't stand working on them anymore.
Get optivisors. I'm old too and it really helps
@@flipvdfluitketel867 Any particular ones you can recommend?
great vid, couldn't agree more
This channel uploads while I’m at school so I can come home to 3 uploads per week! It’s great! But, if you two feel burned out from painting or TH-cam I think the community would be fine if you took a break. Especially if you kept streaming.
Think you'll do a video of how you do the "thatching"? It looks amazing on your model. When i try it always comes out too thick and just not right. lol
How to be good by Jay: take a risk and find out you are an amazing painter.
Holy cow is that RISK PVZ?
I need it now.
I would've painted up the EOD Gunner like the Dozer from Payday 2, would've been dope
The secret of how i got decent fast, was to just getting to know all the techniques and tools from youtube videos, wetpallette, thinning paints, more than one layer, drybrushing, wet blending, edge highlighting, moldscraping, drilling barrels and so on. so it's really strange to me when i see paint jobs not getting the basics right, when we have so much knowledge so easily accessible on the internet. i'd say 65% of getting a model to look decent/good, is just knowing ''how to'' the rest is training and how artistic you are.
Every last one of my space marines has a different paint scheme. In my head, they are just encouraged to customize their armor, like spartans from halo
Annnd now switching to your perfect bullet casings video
Variety is the spice of life!!
Great topic but would be interested in the detail of how you achieved the results such as techniques and practices
Didn't you also go to art school or something though?
I still don’t understand highlights tbh I get what
How to paint highlights but I still can’t do it.
What’s your favorite faction In new vegas
Just paint in the lines and dunk it in earthshade. BOOM.
5:25 it's Dr. Mantis Toboggan
I'm calling it now
Step 1: Paint 700 minis in one year.
variety is the spice of life
But where is the claw dude from the thumbnail ☹️
I thank you for your videos,and for not captioning it "git gud"
See title, watch ork intro.
Done.
All hail Earthshade!!!!!
Nuka Girl just the right level of T H I C C
NukaCola Girl always Jimmies My JANGLES!!
How do you pant ork Nobz because I want to paint them but the videos are very clear on how to do it they are like two hours each
Tell me I have a ork army and it needs to be painted
Help
darkest dungeon mini! wow
and FTL! both amazing games
Fallout new Vegas is life. The only game I play anymore.
The teenage mutant salamander
You gotta get a resin printer
I thought the plague doctor was a girl?
He's going to say practice isn't he
Yeah fallout
Your plague doctor is a her, not a him, sir.
it's kind of funny how he calles the plague doctor he while the mini have breast.