As a swede who has done my fair share of babysitting, I can confidently confirm that the MÅLA paints have two purposes: Kids can eat it without dying and it comes off when you inevitably have to put the little ones in the tub and hose them off :D
thank you so much I have wondered for decades every time I go in ikea and see stuff for kids "do swedish people actually buy this for their kids?" now i know the answer
IKEA Måla paint is tempera, not acrylic. It has a completely different binder that is designed to be child-friendly and washable (mostly). The reactivation and lifting is part of the nature of this binder, not a faulty feature.
I kept thinking if only Jay would use an acrylic medium like GW's Contrast or Lahmian, or perhaps Liquitex Matte. Quite the feat to paint with a product that will reactive to the moisture on your finger tips or crack and flake off if roughly handled once dry.
That explains why it was so bad. I only have minimal experience in painting miniatures- as in I've painted one. But I've also repainted Pokemon figurines. It feels very different from painting miniatures, they're larger with more flat surfaces. I had to use my regular acrylic paint, which isn't paint for young children, but isn't fancy stuff; because I needed a palette more colorful than the Star Wars Legion paint set. The main difference was that I couldn't get a small amount of paint out at once and a bit more water was needed. Any problems with my Pokemon figurines are the result of me, not my tools. It would be interesting to see Jay try the same challenge again with the tubes of entry level acrylic paint you can get at general craft supply stores. What's the difference between acrylic and acrylic meant for miniature painting?
not gonna lie, the washed out grimdark look comes across really good, a millennia of service and war, perfectly portrait by having to paint it literally with blood and sweat
I work at Ikea, MALA is the kids line of product so the Paint has got to be safe enough for little children to use and not ruin the whole home lol, so basically you can consider it more as a toy than real paint... That said, i believe the work you did with this miniature is still pretty good considering what you were working with - a "toy Paint" basically! Cheers
I don't think those are even acrylics but some kind of water-based paint that doesn't dry water proof. Try leaving the space marine in a glass of water and see if the water strips the paint.
It's made so that toddlers can get the paint in the mouth without doing harm. It's meant for really small children, kindergarten stuff. Not meant as hobby paint.
My art teacher used to say: A good artist will make a masterpiece with the best material. A great artist will make a masterpiece with any material. Yep. Called it 10:42 But for real, those paints aren't even mediocre, they are quite bad even to make effects and washes. You painted a space marine with literal finger paint, and it turned out presentable. Very enlightening experiment.
I love these types of experiments since it always shows just how good the actual artist is! Horrible paints but still looks fantastic because of pure skill!
Cool video, got some good laughs out of it. I like how you're fair with it and actually go a little further and found out what the product can actually be used for.
this cheap paint experiments series is my favorite. I'd love to see how options most people would have locally available to them (such as hobby lobby/Michaels) brands would compare.
You were freaking hilarious showing the broken down Ikea furniture while narrating it as "...clean aesthetics; rugged, durable construction." 😂😂😂 And I appreciate you taking time to try different paints, so I know what not to buy!
I started with apple barrel paints and was very hesitant to get citadel because I like what I was getting out of them on my DnD minis, but I put them head to head on a Blood Angel and thats when I noticed the difference in quality of the coverage
I'm glad you acknowledged that not all craft paints are total crap. I use them much much more than I admit ( especially on terrain) and there are a lot of paints out there that are totally serviceable
I recently stumbled about some awesome wall paints from a local furniture megastore. 250ml for 3 bucks and contrary to typical craft paint they are loaded with pigments to a point that thinning them by a factor of 4 to 5 still doesnt destroy the consistency or coverage. They even work trough an airbrush and mix with other colors without turning into greyish brown sludge. That said i did mix in some of my homebrew magic medium/thinners to adjust consistency and flow regular water probably ruins it just like any other paint if you add too much. For anyone interested it was "Poco Abtönfarbe" from the simmilarly named furniture store Poco but i guess those paints are available in many Hardware stores as well.
we have a store in the UK called The Works that sells cheap acrylic paint I use for terrain. its not great but does the job and costs about the same as a GW pot for a 200ml tube
Would love to see this become a series. Between this and the Apple Barrel video I'm curious as to your thoughts on other non-miniature acrylic paint brands. Stuff like Winsor & Newton, GOLDEN, Artists Loft, Amsterdam, etc. I've got a couple GOLDEN High Flow Acrylic paints, specifically their Fluorescent Blue and Green. They seem to work well but I'm curious about other brands. Maybe just raid a Michaels or something.
I'm so used to DankPods blowing out my ear drums whenever he reads something in all caps that I immediately took off my headphones when you read IKEA in all caps
I've also tried the paint out of random curiosity weeks ago to paint one of my printed 75mm miniature and instead of trucking along like you did, I ended up chucking everything lol. Seemed like not only they used crappy binding agent, but also went dirt cheap on the pigment as well. Now only IKEA stuff I stick with are their display cases, Kallax shelves, and desk sets now.
It's meant as finger paints for toddlers, you can't expect to do hobby painting with non toxic paints that are safe for children to get in the mouth... can you?
Squidmar already tried this, and apparently this channel called Geek Gaming Scenics. Haven't watched that guy's video. Glad to see someone else try! It's always fun watching these kind of experimental videos!
Hi there! this is the first EonsofBattle vids I've ever seen and the most shoking for me is the paper coverring the light... are you telling me just with a paper you turn a regular lamp on a really nice fount of painting light?
you might try to check out on the wall paint sample testers. they are very cheap, (for example goodhome is 1.5 gbp per 50ml pot ), and there's wide variety of colours and types . I never tried them on minis, but they are quite useful for painting terrain pieces and buildings on the cheap. And since they are supposed to go on house walls they tend to be quite durable.
When it comes to cheap acrylics, a little life hack that's probably won't work that well for minis, but might be worth a shot is adding cornstarch to the paint. It's a trick artists use when painting. Minnie's might be a bit too small for it but it might make for an interesting short
I actually use a lot of the apple barrel paints. They are super cheap and apply far better than one would expect. I mostly use it for terrain but the blues and black are good enough for model use.
Have you done any other apple barrel cheap craft paint video? I really do like watching pro painters use really bad\ weird paints to attempt good minis. What about using posca paint markers to paint a mini or straight up testors enamel paints for model cars? Or even Nail polish?
When it comes to cheap paints that (sort of) work. Palmers isn't the worst, their colors are nice enough but a little thick and need some water to thin them down (valejo thinner medium wasn't quite doing it)
I think using a matt varnish between paint payers would help build the opacity. it works for me when using blue liquitex ink, as its water activated and just rubs itself off when washing over it.
The reason you had the problem is that it's poster paint, sometimes called tempera. That's designed to be used on paper or board, and to mix even after drying. It's not acrylic paint, more like an opaque version of watercolour paint, similar to gouache.
I almost had a heart attack when you dropped the paint on the floor, I use Tamiya paints for my models which have glass bottles and they don’t love being dropped on the floor
Extra points for saying "paint" with holding up MÅLA. 'tis the direct translation, you see. måla = [to] paint. But paint as in the liquid you paint with, that's not måla, that's målarfärg or just färg (direct translation of that is also "colour"). Swedish & English are closely related but sometimes it gets weird in the details. Most excellent ending. Paper is indeed the intended medium. Trying it on a mini was brave and IMO you did awesome. The end result is all the more impressive for having used paints so decidedly *not* ment for plastic models. The way the paints re-activate and wash away in just a couple of strokes with a wet brush? Possibly the best feature of Måla! Very much a feature, not a bug. It is so, so good when cleaning up after the kids managed to flip their thickly painted paper on to the floor.
thanks for the video, last time i was at ikea i tought to get tham to just test it ^^ a video how to fix the color would be, waht if you ad some mediumß
@@KairosVI They've been out of the basic brown wood Billy bookcases for several years now. I was looking to replace all the older bookcases I had acquired over the years (from other stores) along with buying a few more so they would all match.
I know you said there are no real losers in acrylic paints, but your IKEA paint experience is incredibly similar to my experience with Army Painter. I may have had a bad batch, but I gave up and dumped the whole lot when it couldn't cover with brown over white.
It would have been cool to see you put it through an airbrush. I've found that airbrushing changes the coverage properties of just about every paint I've tried.
As a swede who has done my fair share of babysitting, I can confidently confirm that the MÅLA paints have two purposes: Kids can eat it without dying and it comes off when you inevitably have to put the little ones in the tub and hose them off :D
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thank you so much
I have wondered for decades every time I go in ikea and see stuff for kids
"do swedish people actually buy this for their kids?"
now i know the answer
That feeling when Jay painted a marine better with terrible paints than you did with professional ones
Shut
I feel personally attacked
Did you have fun doing it? Nothing else matters.
"I'm in this comment and I don't like it"
It's a serious kick in the balls
IKEA Måla paint is tempera, not acrylic.
It has a completely different binder that is designed to be child-friendly and washable (mostly). The reactivation and lifting is part of the nature of this binder, not a faulty feature.
Ah, that absolutely explains it. It's basically finger paint.
I kept thinking if only Jay would use an acrylic medium like GW's Contrast or Lahmian, or perhaps Liquitex Matte. Quite the feat to paint with a product that will reactive to the moisture on your finger tips or crack and flake off if roughly handled once dry.
"MÅLA-series has everything, what a child needs..." should indeed give a strong hint on what the target audience is for this product. 😄
That explains why it was so bad. I only have minimal experience in painting miniatures- as in I've painted one. But I've also repainted Pokemon figurines. It feels very different from painting miniatures, they're larger with more flat surfaces. I had to use my regular acrylic paint, which isn't paint for young children, but isn't fancy stuff; because I needed a palette more colorful than the Star Wars Legion paint set. The main difference was that I couldn't get a small amount of paint out at once and a bit more water was needed. Any problems with my Pokemon figurines are the result of me, not my tools.
It would be interesting to see Jay try the same challenge again with the tubes of entry level acrylic paint you can get at general craft supply stores. What's the difference between acrylic and acrylic meant for miniature painting?
I think it's actually gouache paint, not tempera but i might be wrong
I had this experience 3 years ago. One of the worst painting experiences I've had still to this day. 🤣 You nailed it though
That was the first video of yours I saw. Thought of you when I saw this one.
As a Swedish influencer, you have some sway with IKEA, don't you?
Look at me I made this video first
@@henrikwannheden7114 oh i wish hahaha
I'd love to see you collab with Jay and Nick at somepoint Emil!
In the dark grim future, there's only meatballs and affordable DIY furniture.
You'd almost think that the paints are designed to reactivate, so when your child spills, it's easy to clean up :))
The presentation, great editing, and those smooth chair turn transitions, just elevate the video and make it so much more visually appealing
Right? He is so dang funny it doesn't really matter what the subject matter is. I laughed maniacally at the gam gam bit.
not gonna lie, the washed out grimdark look comes across really good, a millennia of service and war, perfectly portrait by having to paint it literally with blood and sweat
Yeah. And the storm lord symbol looks like it was painted on by the soldier wearing the armor.
I work at Ikea, MALA is the kids line of product so the Paint has got to be safe enough for little children to use and not ruin the whole home lol, so basically you can consider it more as a toy than real paint... That said, i believe the work you did with this miniature is still pretty good considering what you were working with - a "toy Paint" basically! Cheers
I don't think those are even acrylics but some kind of water-based paint that doesn't dry water proof. Try leaving the space marine in a glass of water and see if the water strips the paint.
These are probably tempera paints. The instructions say they might stain but sometimes can be washed off. This makes sense for children's paint.
Yep look like children's poster paints to me.
@@theheslops439 it's pretty much that
It's made so that toddlers can get the paint in the mouth without doing harm. It's meant for really small children, kindergarten stuff. Not meant as hobby paint.
My kids use those paints, and when I saw the title, my first thought was that you were going to struggle with the white 😄
My art teacher used to say: A good artist will make a masterpiece with the best material. A great artist will make a masterpiece with any material.
Yep. Called it 10:42
But for real, those paints aren't even mediocre, they are quite bad even to make effects and washes. You painted a space marine with literal finger paint, and it turned out presentable. Very enlightening experiment.
I love these types of experiments since it always shows just how good the actual artist is! Horrible paints but still looks fantastic because of pure skill!
Man, I love your content! The swooping of all the paints off sold the whole vid already. Great stuff!!!!!
Fun video, this channel has become one of my instant watch when uploads channels. Look forward to more!
200 thin coats. 😁
Nice paintjob, Jay. 👍
I have to say though, what you came up with is excellent. Dude... you took a toy and turned it into awesome!! Well done!
Just call it grimdark and it's an absolute win
Cool video, got some good laughs out of it. I like how you're fair with it and actually go a little further and found out what the product can actually be used for.
this cheap paint experiments series is my favorite. I'd love to see how options most people would have locally available to them (such as hobby lobby/Michaels) brands would compare.
i think it would be an interesting video painting with the blackest black you can buy and the whitest white to see what kind of designs would be cool
"Rugged, durable construction."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You were freaking hilarious showing the broken down Ikea furniture while narrating it as "...clean aesthetics; rugged, durable construction." 😂😂😂 And I appreciate you taking time to try different paints, so I know what not to buy!
J, the bravest man braveing the worst paints known to man. Nothing but heroism in this video
That red going down looked like Ninjon painting with his blood 😂
I FELT that heavy sigh while you were free-handing lol
Excellent vid!
This was a fun one for sure. Always cool to see what other paints do.
Triggered when Jay tapped the green and said red lmfao. The finish job is bloody awesome!
First video by this guy I've ever seen, I really enjoyed it! I love the positivity!
I really appreciate your valiant effort! That model actually looks really good considering.
Dude you literally have the best intro. Love your videos.
I started with apple barrel paints and was very hesitant to get citadel because I like what I was getting out of them on my DnD minis, but I put them head to head on a Blood Angel and thats when I noticed the difference in quality of the coverage
I'm glad you acknowledged that not all craft paints are total crap. I use them much much more than I admit ( especially on terrain) and there are a lot of paints out there that are totally serviceable
I recently stumbled about some awesome wall paints from a local furniture megastore. 250ml for 3 bucks and contrary to typical craft paint they are loaded with pigments to a point that thinning them by a factor of 4 to 5 still doesnt destroy the consistency or coverage. They even work trough an airbrush and mix with other colors without turning into greyish brown sludge. That said i did mix in some of my homebrew magic medium/thinners to adjust consistency and flow regular water probably ruins it just like any other paint if you add too much.
For anyone interested it was "Poco Abtönfarbe" from the simmilarly named furniture store Poco but i guess those paints are available in many Hardware stores as well.
Oh man it still looks so good xD well done, really fun video, would love to see what you can do with acryla-gouache
I got a warhammer ad before watching this
ok, next Video an IKEA Space Marine Army 1500 Points Blue/Yellow Marines painted with IKEA paints ? 😅😅
that would be hilarious, with tiny little IKEA decals on the shoulders
Appreciate the positive attitude and quality information on other paint favorites. Would love to see some brush technique videos!
we have a store in the UK called The Works that sells cheap acrylic paint I use for terrain. its not great but does the job and costs about the same as a GW pot for a 200ml tube
Yes I use them too. Also I cheated and got a dulex cookie colour that is similar to Zandri dust.
Would love to see this become a series. Between this and the Apple Barrel video I'm curious as to your thoughts on other non-miniature acrylic paint brands. Stuff like Winsor & Newton, GOLDEN, Artists Loft, Amsterdam, etc.
I've got a couple GOLDEN High Flow Acrylic paints, specifically their Fluorescent Blue and Green. They seem to work well but I'm curious about other brands. Maybe just raid a Michaels or something.
I love being Swedish and being able to know what IKEA names mean
I'm so used to DankPods blowing out my ear drums whenever he reads something in all caps that I immediately took off my headphones when you read IKEA in all caps
I use a lot of those apple barrel paints. it allows me to have a huge range of colors for cheap. I still use GW paints for base coats.
Love the ikea colour sceme in the studio.
That marine looks better than some of my stuff lol
(p.s. without titanium white I'd be lost)
I've also tried the paint out of random curiosity weeks ago to paint one of my printed 75mm miniature and instead of trucking along like you did, I ended up chucking everything lol. Seemed like not only they used crappy binding agent, but also went dirt cheap on the pigment as well. Now only IKEA stuff I stick with are their display cases, Kallax shelves, and desk sets now.
It's meant as finger paints for toddlers, you can't expect to do hobby painting with non toxic paints that are safe for children to get in the mouth... can you?
What's next, painting with food colouring and complaining when the color doesn't do what you want it to.
Squidmar already tried this, and apparently this channel called Geek Gaming Scenics. Haven't watched that guy's video. Glad to see someone else try! It's always fun watching these kind of experimental videos!
Hi there! this is the first EonsofBattle vids I've ever seen and the most shoking for me is the paper coverring the light... are you telling me just with a paper you turn a regular lamp on a really nice fount of painting light?
you might try to check out on the wall paint sample testers. they are very cheap, (for example goodhome is 1.5 gbp per 50ml pot ), and there's wide variety of colours and types .
I never tried them on minis, but they are quite useful for painting terrain pieces and buildings on the cheap. And since they are supposed to go on house walls they tend to be quite durable.
When it comes to cheap acrylics, a little life hack that's probably won't work that well for minis, but might be worth a shot is adding cornstarch to the paint. It's a trick artists use when painting. Minnie's might be a bit too small for it but it might make for an interesting short
Shame I can't post you another like for the duck masterpiece 🌟
I actually use a lot of the apple barrel paints. They are super cheap and apply far better than one would expect. I mostly use it for terrain but the blues and black are good enough for model use.
Happy to see someone else who uses the occasional apple barrel craft paint.
Have you done any other apple barrel cheap craft paint video? I really do like watching pro painters use really bad\ weird paints to attempt good minis. What about using posca paint markers to paint a mini or straight up testors enamel paints for model cars? Or even Nail polish?
I use apple barrel to paint my miniatures, it's a bit thick but you know what ya do there so.
It's so calming to watch someone paint with the proper 👍
Great results! These are the only paints we can get in Sweden so would like to see more of these kind of videos.
Just found your channel - you are a great, great person! Fantastic personality
My man made a pretty decent space marine using finger paints
Paint a model using various nail polishes, I’ve been wanting to try the cats eye on a chaos knight myself
When it comes to cheap paints that (sort of) work. Palmers isn't the worst, their colors are nice enough but a little thick and need some water to thin them down (valejo thinner
medium wasn't quite doing it)
I’m neither into war gaming nor miniature painting, but I still enjoy your content. Especially videos like these.
I'm surprised you didn't have to assemble these paints. ;)
Takes the time to carefully set up all the other hobbyist paints
Immediately shoves them off the table in favor of IKEA paint.
Classy
You made a decent marine out of crap 👍 This reminds me about my beginning in the hobby with czech tempera paints Kohinoor
I wonder how the experience would have been if you tried mixing them with some kind of acrylic medium?
I'm not going to try it though...
Could u do a video on non metallic painting
Well, so much for that IKEA sponsorship 😅
What was that book with all the space marines in it? it looked awesome
I think using a matt varnish between paint payers would help build the opacity. it works for me when using blue liquitex ink, as its water activated and just rubs itself off when washing over it.
The reason you had the problem is that it's poster paint, sometimes called tempera. That's designed to be used on paper or board, and to mix even after drying. It's not acrylic paint, more like an opaque version of watercolour paint, similar to gouache.
Have you try Mr color paint? I've seen many gunpla collector use that kind of paint .
Also love your content ❤️
Also tamyia, AK are also model paints he "missed".
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I use AK for my minis. Is fine
Jay, brilliant and hilarious video! You do more to make the hobby approachable than perhaps any other youtuber!
These edits and cuts were amazing my man 👏🏾 👏🏾 I'll be back for more
This was really fun! I love your channel and presentation!
"IKEA, I trusted you"
> as a Scandinavian - "why??"
Well at least you can use the tubes to make some nice terrain.
Hah, I love that Applebarrel Black paint too, it's so good for what it is.
The army painter spray can grey primer is amazing if anyone was looking for a good one
I almost had a heart attack when you dropped the paint on the floor, I use Tamiya paints for my models which have glass bottles and they don’t love being dropped on the floor
Have you tried Duncan’s Two Thin Coats range yet? If you have what video was it cause I might have missed it
"its a little bit too watery for my taste"
sounds like you ate it xD
What is the book he is using at the beginning of the video that shows all the color ways of the empire?
Your video made my day 😀 As a painter I was very curious to see if we would be surprised. I wasn’t.
Im very impressed, You really pushed those to their limit! Finished result is way better than anything "pro painted" on ebay
Extra points for saying "paint" with holding up MÅLA.
'tis the direct translation, you see. måla = [to] paint. But paint as in the liquid you paint with, that's not måla, that's målarfärg or just färg (direct translation of that is also "colour"). Swedish & English are closely related but sometimes it gets weird in the details.
Most excellent ending. Paper is indeed the intended medium. Trying it on a mini was brave and IMO you did awesome. The end result is all the more impressive for having used paints so decidedly *not* ment for plastic models.
The way the paints re-activate and wash away in just a couple of strokes with a wet brush? Possibly the best feature of Måla! Very much a feature, not a bug. It is so, so good when cleaning up after the kids managed to flip their thickly painted paper on to the floor.
Hi Jay, love your experiments with non-conventional mini paint tools!
Hey jay, you should try out Duncan’s “two thin coats” paint range. I personally enjoy it!! 😁
Hello, does anyone know which catalog he is using to find ideas of Astartes to paint ? And where to find it ?
is the IKEA mala paint airbrush able and what's used for thinner water or acrylic mr color tinners
thanks for the video, last time i was at ikea i tought to get tham to just test it ^^
a video how to fix the color would be, waht if you ad some mediumß
Question: have you Ever tried Gouache with acrylic shud be super Matt on a mini?
So now you store the paints on the Billy Bookcase? 😎🤠
i moved last week and they were all out of Billy in black!!!! i just couldnt bring myself to get the billy in white T_T
@@KairosVI They've been out of the basic brown wood Billy bookcases for several years now. I was looking to replace all the older bookcases I had acquired over the years (from other stores) along with buying a few more so they would all match.
I know you said there are no real losers in acrylic paints, but your IKEA paint experience is incredibly similar to my experience with Army Painter. I may have had a bad batch, but I gave up and dumped the whole lot when it couldn't cover with brown over white.
Jay what’s that book you have with all the chapters in it? Looks sick
It would have been cool to see you put it through an airbrush. I've found that airbrushing changes the coverage properties of just about every paint I've tried.
the fear from just pushing those citadel pots without caring if they popped open
You should a video of the best colors or the colors that you use the most of each paint range
Best Patreon segue so far.
duuuude even with those paints you slayed it! amazing job