How to start space marines: Buy a ton of terminators because they’re the coolest and try to make them into a workable army with your various SM killteams
All the small mistakes (no shame) Jay makes make it 100× more endearing Like I'm actually talking to someone at a gamestore, and they're just telling me what they know
I feel the same! Instead of feeling like some expert is giving me a presentation/mastercalss, it's just ya boi spitting ideas and theory crafting with ya while you both look at the store shelf and decided what to buy. I love it!
A word of warning to those who are thinking of taking Jay's advice on the blood angels combat patrol, get it while you can. Once the BA refresh hits, they'll redo it like the dark angels one.
I started warhammer three days ago, what does this mean? Also, I called the ultramarines blueberries to a GW manager, and he wanted to kill me in the store...why?
@trashpanda_actual first off, it just means they'll be changing what's in the box, it's a regular thing they do now. The second one, I guess the manager was an Ultramarines player lol
I just started the hobby about a month ago and plan to grab the BA combat patrol, do you think it would be better to wait for the refresh or get it now?
@@HarryANuis-gi9hz The BA combat patrol isn't very BA themed, but it is a decent start point for SM in general. Based off how the DA update went the new combat patrol will probably be worse in every way(less interesting models, still no chapter flavour, no vehicle, less points), so if you like the models in the current BA one you might as well get it while you can.
With Gladius youre implying that they get to be in the selected doctrine all game. Its only for one turn and you can select all 3 on 3 different turns, just not use the same one on two different turns
👍👍 I'm not in the habit of buying large amounts but over the last couple of years I've aimed for two boxes each of Aggressors, Eradicators, Inceptors and Centurions to be the core of my Salamanders army
Same here, I love gravis! My next purchase will be to get some centurions because space marine inside a space marine... hell yeah! Love the look of them after some modification to get them less stalky looking. (also hello brother of the flame)
One thing I’d like to add on top of Jays advice is - don’t feel like you’re locked into buying a combat patrol. A lot of the time, the Warhammer/GW employee will push you towards the combat patrol box because it’s either a quick $100 or it’s the ‘done thing’ that they’re told to do by the higher ups. But that’s not what you should always do. Say for example, you don’t like/want 50% of the mini’s in the combat patrol box… don’t just buy the box for the ones you want and then have 10-20 models left over. You absolutely can just build your army 1 unit/ character at a time. Yes it may cost you more money in the long run - but this is an expensive hobby! I play orks, I haven’t bought the combat patrol and I also haven’t broken my bank account because I split the purchases up over a couple years. It is possible to buy an army without a combat patrol. Yes, combat patrols are a good money saving option and can give you a great deal on units and can actually set you up for a very good army composition. But don’t feel like it’s your only option. 😁 Happy hobbying!
was just checking to see if enyone mentioned it, as a deathwing afficinado (284 terminators and counting across my 30k and 40k armies) going from 5+ to 4+ invul and from T¤ to T5 was huge, and with the latest change to deathwing knghts` weapons they are both super tanky and great vs any target. (the 30K/40K split is 47/237 )
Thanks for this. As a long time space marine painter who now has the itch to play, this is was exactly what I needed to see. I’ve had no idea who’s actually good and who just looks cool for years now. Nice to hear it from someone with experience who has crunched the numbers
The thing of note of the Gladiator is that you can trivially build it in a way that all three variants are accessible to you and you can convert between them in an easy manner, and you don't even need magnets to do so. Also, another reason not to buy the Combat Patrol Space Marines is because those exact same models are in the 10th Edition starter kits, which are cheaper and you get some Tyranid models you can either keep or sell in addition to what is in the Combat Patrol.
In the BA combat patrol you actually get the full kit for Incursors/infiltrators so u can build 5 of either and then if u can source some more phobos bodies (from i dunno oh maybe the reiver bodies sold for super cheap by people parting out the reiver box to just sell heads) you can make another 5 dudes. So if u build 5 infiltrators you can after sourcing the bodies also build 5 Incursors
I have roughly 1k points of space marines, but a lot of it isn't really viable. Bought a firstborn dreadnought and land speeder because they were both cheap and looked adorable, and a predator tank because I figured I could run it as a rhino until I reread the rules and realized "tacticus armor" means Primaris marines, and they don't fit in a rhino. For all my effort trying to save money I think I agree now that that Blood Angel combat patrol would have been a better route. Though I still love my little boxnaught and land speeder.
Incursors don't give rerolls to hit for the rest of the turn if they hit. They give +1 to hit for the rest of the shooting phase. Still useful when they incur 😂, just in a different way.
I would like to mention that Blood Angels Currently are a very Melee focused Chapter with Sons of Sanguinius Detachment, Each time an ADEPTUS ASTARTES unit from your army is selected to fight, if that unit made a Charge move this turn, until the end of the phase, add 2 to the Strength characteristic and add 1 to the Attacks characteristic of melee weapons equipped by models in that unit. A squad of 10Jump Pack Intercessors with most BA Epic Heroes attached as well as a Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack, suddenly becomes around 50 hits that are hard easy to hit and hard to save
Hmmm could convert those Voidsmen into serfs for your chapter. That's a fun idea. Also neat to know I have most of these models. Their kitbashed with loadouts that would make a rules lawyer cry out in agony or burst into laughter or both, but I do have them, so that's neat to know. Anyway thanks for sharing Jay.
Hey. Neat video. The intercessors picture is of the heavy intercessors. Still a good unit but may confuse people trying to look them up. Also, the librarian in the blood angel's set if a regular, primaris librarian. He can't go with terminators but he is great with things like hell blasters or a big squad of intercessors to keep them alive!
That’s not how Gladius works. You can pick each doctrine once during the game or use the “adaptive strategy” strategy to put a unit in whatever doctrine you like
Got alot of great info out of this vid! I got back into 40K last year with the leviathan box and have been randomly collecting marines since, not really knowing what units to take or put into a list. Now I feel like I have a direction to build towards, and it's also kinda funny that I was literally planning on buying the BA combat patrol soon XD
Terminators have a 4+ invulnerable save. My local meta seems to favour the spearhead vanguard detachment, even when not using Phobos things. Being able to infiltrate a terminator assault squad with shields is very powerful.
suggestion for actually collecting space marines: buy the Horus Heresy Age of Darkness box set. 40 marine bodies, 10 terminators, land raider, plus a couple of characters. and with just a small purchase of the missile launcher and heavy bolter upgrade box, you can milk even more value out of those 40 marines through building desolation squads and sternguard veteran squads. or if you just want some alternative units, the special weapon upgrades can give you both infernus and hellblaster squads.
So do you just paint them as whatever chapter you want to use since they're all space marines? Like could i make the leviathan space marines into Dark Angels?
I was literally just looking at blood angel unit's and the combat patrol box set as I started watching this video, not sure if I want to paint a unit just for nostalgia as they're something I painted in my teens
I’m playing black Templars, I haven’t played a game yet and am still building my army, when I got infiltrators no one was talking. Abt them so I never finished painting them but will def do that now and add them to my list as I see them everywhere now. But my list is -Helbrecht (warlord) -emperors champion - Marshall -intercessor squad x3 - primaris crusader squad - inceptor squad - infernus squad - infiltrator squad - primaris sword brethren - terminator squad - gladiator reaper - impulsor Is this a good list? I feel like I have the must haves for Templars and good units for space marines in general. In total it’s 1,530 points
Hey jay. I’ve got a black Templar army and wanted to know if this is a good army roster? Characters: apothecary Lieutenant in Phobos Captain with plasma pistol x1 impulsor x10 hellblasters x5 assault intercessors with jump packs x5 assault inercessors x3 eliminators x5 infiltrators x3 suppressors
I’m new to tabletop warhammer 40k. My first squad I bought was a regular space marine tactical squad. Did I make a bad choice or can I work them in somewhere?
As someone who already thinks aggressors and inceptors are already pretty cool looking, having half to two-thirds of my army made up of them doesn't seem like a huge deal. A few aggressors, a few inceptors, a dreadnought, and then some intercessors to fill out the points making up an army? A-okay by me.
my issue with the specialized chapter combat patrols is that theyre logos are stuck on their shoulders and are part of the model. really awesome, but im collecting ultramarines so im honeslty probably gonna get the space marine box.
I know nothing much as ive just started but want the black templars for the look, already painted some space marines but i want some more templar stuff.
Hey J, little of topic tho.... in video about your necron army, u saying that u repainted it like 3 times :) So have a question... did u strip them up from paint or basically re prime them before painting again? Thanks!😊
I already have 3 armies (I main space wolves) but now that I've got to grips with the game more I do find myself wanting to do an imperial fist descendant chapter based around anvil siege detachment with gravis armour EVERYWHERE. just sit on obj tanking stuff, blasting with heavy weapons and power fisting anything in the face that comes to close
I have all 4 assassins and I rotate them around. Haven't used Eversor (yet) but I have seen him used as an insanely good anti infantry missile. Will he get taken out next turn? Probably. Have I seen him delete an entire unit of infantry? Yeah
Hey Eon, im sorry to ask you of this but im trying to get into the hobby very slowly (mainly the price lol) I want to ask if you could do a similar style video for an Adeptus Mechanicus army? Its the one im trying to build and paint and honestly a lot of the info surrounding what is a good starting point is so cluttered or unhelpful (from what i've been able to find) Thank you very much
Pretty chuffed that as a newish/ returning player after 10+ years, my current roster I've been building bit by bit just about has the recommended lineup.
I like that he gives strategic advice with some ideas other players did not come up with. But he also mentions that he is pretty much loosing every game he plays… So people might say his strategies aren’t that great. I like to think he is a brilliant strategist with amazingly bad dice-luck.
Yeah I'm just doing great nights for right now and after I finish my thousand points then I'm either going to work on sisters of battle or loyalist iron warriors and my current plan for them is raptors and legionnaires and maybe a hellbrute but my main plan currently is one Terminator squad 3 raptor squads three legionnaire squads and two bikers squads which will put me at 905 points giving me enough for either a chaos rhino or another raptor or legionnaire squad or even another bike squad which would be 41 miniatures and with either the extra raptor or legionnaire squad that'll be 46 and with an extra bike squad that would be 44 and with the rhino or the hell brute that would be 42 and yes I know I have to play them as chaos and that's okay so I don't have to paint all that gaudy trim
Hang on, how can you troll with the teleport homer exactly? If you put it in one place and your opponent swarms it? Isn't that the only option to send the terminators? How exactly can they enter way across the other side of the board? Is the distance from the homer that big?
Loved this. I recently began my Imperial Fists army and so far I’ve got Redemption Dreadnaught Eradicators Eliminators Terminators Captain w/ master crafted bolter I want to do Agressors, intercessors either heavy or the standard, and possibly inceptors. Does anyone have any other recommendations?
I'm new here and I'm having some problems understanding a couple of things. I'm looking to buy the Black Templars Combat Patrol. I understand that since they have two key faction words "Adeptus Astartes, Black Templars" I can't mix them with units that have for example "Adeptus Astartes, Space Wolves" but I can mix them with units that only have "Adeptus Astartes"?
If you're new and want to get into the hobby, I must warn you of 3 things:- 1) The parent company, GW, just put up all of their prices well above inflation. Even on kits that are over 20 years old. If you really want to buy something, buy it used from somewhere. They will keep increasing prices to an extortionate amount. 2) Unless you have somewhere to play already in mind, you will find games hard to set up. GW have been closing their shops as well as taking away the gaming spaces in their locations. No more painting stations, no more beginner nights. You may have had a demo game in a shop, but that's all they offer. And in the few places that do let you play, they're getting stricter on things that are not their products. You used to be able to convert your models by using third party kits or 3D printed parts. But now there are many horror stories of people who were refused game time because their models (that they own!) don't look like the ones on the box. 3) The current edition of the game, 10th, is considered the worst of all of them. Even 6th. All of the old rulebooks were made null and void, a first for the franchise. The biggest cull of units was put in place and is still continuing with each new rulebook released. Further to this, the rules are so broken that they just recently released a rewrite of the core moves. This rewrite was so messy that they released an FAQ immediately. And now they've had to add further clarification to the FAQ because it was worded so poorly. And since _THAT_ clarification, people have discovered that you can cheese a lot of extra movement out of certain units. tl;dr - The game is in a disaster state. It's still playable, but _please_ consider putting your money elsewhere until things get fixed. There are so many other things to play with and paint. Don't give GW your money. No right now. Buy second-hand. Play older editions of the rules - the books go for cheap on eBay! Warhammer is really cool, but the game itself is not in a good place right now. Many people will defend GW or downvote this message because they will take it as an attack on themselves. It isn't. You guys are rad. But I want this hobby to be affordable and enjoyable for everybody, not just GW's shareholders.
I think Space Marines are completely fine army. They didn't do too bad in the current meta game. They have trillions ways of shooting and removing enemies units from the battlefield and is the scary army to play against. Don't trust the winrate on the website. The only reason why SM winrate is so low is that SM have too large player base and many of them isn't a veteran player which drag down the winrate. That why their winrate is very low. However in the right hand they are so op.
My group has good variation of factions but SM players get wiped pretty consistently. They're not in a good place because they have a few good units that are used at events, and then everything else is just bad by comparison and isn't properly adjusted because it's not used at events. My space wolves are lucky to get 50/50 with index orks, and the SM players combined have about 10% winrate against the local eldar and dark eldar players
As a Tau player this is bad advice and suggest you just get combat patrol space marines. About 5 of them. You will be the cool kid on the table.....trust me... 😂
How to start space marines:
Buy a ton of terminators because they’re the coolest and try to make them into a workable army with your various SM killteams
My mindset exactly after buying the deathwing assault set as my starter box
Duck!
Ay wassup Krakduk
Okay, but why did I do this too! 😭
I'm playing Salamander with Firestorm Assault, and I need vehicles 😂
Hello Duck 💣🦆
Who would have thought that Jay likes space marines
How to start Space Marines in 10th: have Jay's seemingly unlimited bank account
The power of tax write offs is undeniable…
@@Mosaic117 Can he use tax right offs on warhammer though.
It's a business expense I imagine. @@lizadon0740
@@lizadon0740it is part of his job so maybe.
@@lizadon0740probably.
All the small mistakes (no shame) Jay makes make it 100× more endearing
Like I'm actually talking to someone at a gamestore, and they're just telling me what they know
I feel the same! Instead of feeling like some expert is giving me a presentation/mastercalss, it's just ya boi spitting ideas and theory crafting with ya while you both look at the store shelf and decided what to buy.
I love it!
This is the very essence of EOB for me, the experimentation of new painting techniques and kitbash ideas, mixed with the skill to pull them off
A word of warning to those who are thinking of taking Jay's advice on the blood angels combat patrol, get it while you can. Once the BA refresh hits, they'll redo it like the dark angels one.
I started warhammer three days ago, what does this mean? Also, I called the ultramarines blueberries to a GW manager, and he wanted to kill me in the store...why?
@trashpanda_actual first off, it just means they'll be changing what's in the box, it's a regular thing they do now.
The second one, I guess the manager was an Ultramarines player lol
I just started the hobby about a month ago and plan to grab the BA combat patrol, do you think it would be better to wait for the refresh or get it now?
@@HarryANuis-gi9hz The BA combat patrol isn't very BA themed, but it is a decent start point for SM in general. Based off how the DA update went the new combat patrol will probably be worse in every way(less interesting models, still no chapter flavour, no vehicle, less points), so if you like the models in the current BA one you might as well get it while you can.
@@wulf2757 it does suck there is no blood angels theme that’s for sure. I’m still a bit undecided between space wolves, BA and grey knights tbh.
With Gladius youre implying that they get to be in the selected doctrine all game. Its only for one turn and you can select all 3 on 3 different turns, just not use the same one on two different turns
👍👍 I'm not in the habit of buying large amounts but over the last couple of years I've aimed for two boxes each of Aggressors, Eradicators, Inceptors and Centurions to be the core of my Salamanders army
Gravis good, I support your army
Damn, I was going with Infernus, Terminators, Aggressors, and Eradicators. I'll have to look into adding some Centurions!
Same here, I love gravis! My next purchase will be to get some centurions because space marine inside a space marine... hell yeah! Love the look of them after some modification to get them less stalky looking.
(also hello brother of the flame)
One thing I’d like to add on top of Jays advice is - don’t feel like you’re locked into buying a combat patrol.
A lot of the time, the Warhammer/GW employee will push you towards the combat patrol box because it’s either a quick $100 or it’s the ‘done thing’ that they’re told to do by the higher ups. But that’s not what you should always do.
Say for example, you don’t like/want 50% of the mini’s in the combat patrol box… don’t just buy the box for the ones you want and then have 10-20 models left over.
You absolutely can just build your army 1 unit/ character at a time. Yes it may cost you more money in the long run - but this is an expensive hobby!
I play orks, I haven’t bought the combat patrol and I also haven’t broken my bank account because I split the purchases up over a couple years.
It is possible to buy an army without a combat patrol.
Yes, combat patrols are a good money saving option and can give you a great deal on units and can actually set you up for a very good army composition. But don’t feel like it’s your only option. 😁
Happy hobbying!
*Terminators have 4+ invulnerable save (adjusting glasses like a nerd 🤓) great videos 👍🏽
was just checking to see if enyone mentioned it, as a deathwing afficinado (284 terminators and counting across my 30k and 40k armies) going from 5+ to 4+ invul and from T¤ to T5 was huge, and with the latest change to deathwing knghts` weapons they are both super tanky and great vs any target.
(the 30K/40K split is 47/237 )
'most popular other than leagues of votann' made me crack up- love it
Thanks for this. As a long time space marine painter who now has the itch to play, this is was exactly what I needed to see. I’ve had no idea who’s actually good and who just looks cool for years now. Nice to hear it from someone with experience who has crunched the numbers
ooohhh, the starship interior looks amazing... i think a few more special tiles and you could play a specific game... a hulk of a game ... in space...
The thing of note of the Gladiator is that you can trivially build it in a way that all three variants are accessible to you and you can convert between them in an easy manner, and you don't even need magnets to do so.
Also, another reason not to buy the Combat Patrol Space Marines is because those exact same models are in the 10th Edition starter kits, which are cheaper and you get some Tyranid models you can either keep or sell in addition to what is in the Combat Patrol.
In the BA combat patrol you actually get the full kit for Incursors/infiltrators so u can build 5 of either and then if u can source some more phobos bodies (from i dunno oh maybe the reiver bodies sold for super cheap by people parting out the reiver box to just sell heads) you can make another 5 dudes. So if u build 5 infiltrators you can after sourcing the bodies also build 5 Incursors
I have roughly 1k points of space marines, but a lot of it isn't really viable. Bought a firstborn dreadnought and land speeder because they were both cheap and looked adorable, and a predator tank because I figured I could run it as a rhino until I reread the rules and realized "tacticus armor" means Primaris marines, and they don't fit in a rhino. For all my effort trying to save money I think I agree now that that Blood Angel combat patrol would have been a better route. Though I still love my little boxnaught and land speeder.
That predator is actually pretty good, lascannons are a marines best anti tank rn and predators can go all lascannons
I'm a simple man. I see Jay post, I watch.
Do I? Well I DO.
Most certainly I as well!
Centurions and Dreadnaughts.
That's all I need. 😁
Counterpoint: Firestorm Assault Force - bring flamers... like a lot of flamers... an unreasonable amount of flamers
Even for someone that has played a while, this advice is great and refreshing, delivered in a very entertaining video. Great job!
Incursors don't give rerolls to hit for the rest of the turn if they hit. They give +1 to hit for the rest of the shooting phase.
Still useful when they incur 😂, just in a different way.
Spending a cp to bounce a unit off the table and into strategic reserves so it can sneak up behind younand whisper in your ear "movement wins games"
I would like to mention that Blood Angels Currently are a very Melee focused Chapter with Sons of Sanguinius Detachment, Each time an ADEPTUS ASTARTES unit from your army is selected to fight, if that unit made a Charge move this turn, until the end of the phase, add 2 to the Strength characteristic and add 1 to the Attacks characteristic of melee weapons equipped by models in that unit.
A squad of 10Jump Pack Intercessors with most BA Epic Heroes attached as well as a Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack, suddenly becomes around 50 hits that are hard easy to hit and hard to save
This is a great vid! Thanks!
I'd like to see this series continue. "How to Start ... in 10th Edition"
Thousand Sons next, please!
as someone who finally just started an interest in the ultramarines i’m very happy to find this
Hmmm could convert those Voidsmen into serfs for your chapter. That's a fun idea. Also neat to know I have most of these models. Their kitbashed with loadouts that would make a rules lawyer cry out in agony or burst into laughter or both, but I do have them, so that's neat to know. Anyway thanks for sharing Jay.
Hey. Neat video. The intercessors picture is of the heavy intercessors. Still a good unit but may confuse people trying to look them up. Also, the librarian in the blood angel's set if a regular, primaris librarian. He can't go with terminators but he is great with things like hell blasters or a big squad of intercessors to keep them alive!
This video could not come at a better time, I've been thinking of getting a proper space marine army
That’s not how Gladius works. You can pick each doctrine once during the game or use the “adaptive strategy” strategy to put a unit in whatever doctrine you like
Thanks, Jay! This is a really good general overview for SM players new to 10th Edition.
Got alot of great info out of this vid! I got back into 40K last year with the leviathan box and have been randomly collecting marines since, not really knowing what units to take or put into a list. Now I feel like I have a direction to build towards, and it's also kinda funny that I was literally planning on buying the BA combat patrol soon XD
In any case Jay, how can we trust your army building tips when by your own admission you lose 95% of the games you play? Just saying...
Terminators have a 4+ invulnerable save.
My local meta seems to favour the spearhead vanguard detachment, even when not using Phobos things. Being able to infiltrate a terminator assault squad with shields is very powerful.
suggestion for actually collecting space marines: buy the Horus Heresy Age of Darkness box set. 40 marine bodies, 10 terminators, land raider, plus a couple of characters. and with just a small purchase of the missile launcher and heavy bolter upgrade box, you can milk even more value out of those 40 marines through building desolation squads and sternguard veteran squads. or if you just want some alternative units, the special weapon upgrades can give you both infernus and hellblaster squads.
So do you just paint them as whatever chapter you want to use since they're all space marines? Like could i make the leviathan space marines into Dark Angels?
Absolutely!
Yup, bonus points if you change their emblems and such to match the Chapter/Detachment that you're going for.
Incursors actually give +1 to hit for all other adeptus astartes units, not re-rolling hits. Anyways, good video. 👍🏻
Incursor squad gives +1 to hit on whatever enemy unit they shot at. They dont give a second Oath of Moment.
Inceptors, scouts and Jump pack interseccors are you only good datasheets, run them in whichever quantities you enjoy and then add things you like
Nice breakdown. I'm building Black Templars and Space Wolves. Would like to see your unit selections for those.
Thunderwolves, Grimnar, Bjorn, Wulfen are all solid choices from the current index
Primaris Crusaders get so many primaris crusaders
I've been in love with the Eversor Assassin since 3rd edition.
Small Misstake, Terminators have a 4+ invul save in 10th
Sometimes I wonder if Jay plays with how often he gets the rules wrong lol. Hearing him explain gladius was interesting
Mistake*
@@sbeaberhe does play, but playing with worse rules would make him losing all the time make more sense.
Its easy to get this one wrong, terminators Always used to have a 5+, the shield of the assault terminators have the 4+
Small correction: That's the Primaris Librarian that comes in the Blood Angel Patrol Box not a Terminator Librarian.
I was literally just looking at blood angel unit's and the combat patrol box set as I started watching this video, not sure if I want to paint a unit just for nostalgia as they're something I painted in my teens
Unless you are playing an absolutely massive board what's the point of moving titans because most of the time their range is YES
To crush stuff for flavor. Too bad that doesn't do much according to some video i watched recently.
They see me trolling!!!! Space hulk!!! You think they will make a new printing? They got all the pieces!!Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
I’m playing black Templars, I haven’t played a game yet and am still building my army, when I got infiltrators no one was talking. Abt them so I never finished painting them but will def do that now and add them to my list as I see them everywhere now. But my list is
-Helbrecht (warlord)
-emperors champion
- Marshall
-intercessor squad x3
- primaris crusader squad
- inceptor squad
- infernus squad
- infiltrator squad
- primaris sword brethren
- terminator squad
- gladiator reaper
- impulsor
Is this a good list? I feel like I have the must haves for Templars and good units for space marines in general. In total it’s 1,530 points
Can we have a studio tour Jay?
You should do one on how to start a Black Templar army. You just might know a thing or two about that.
Love to see more videos like this for other factions
Hey jay. I’ve got a black Templar army and wanted to know if this is a good army roster?
Characters: apothecary
Lieutenant in Phobos
Captain with plasma pistol
x1 impulsor
x10 hellblasters
x5 assault intercessors with jump packs
x5 assault inercessors
x3 eliminators
x5 infiltrators
x3 suppressors
I’m new to tabletop warhammer 40k. My first squad I bought was a regular space marine tactical squad. Did I make a bad choice or can I work them in somewhere?
Well depends but is a good choice overall
...Those are Heavy Intercessors at 10:43 . The BA Combat Patrol gives a regular Librarian, not a Librarian in Terminator Armor.
Start with the rule of cool, get what you like
As someone who already thinks aggressors and inceptors are already pretty cool looking, having half to two-thirds of my army made up of them doesn't seem like a huge deal. A few aggressors, a few inceptors, a dreadnought, and then some intercessors to fill out the points making up an army? A-okay by me.
This helped me a lot. Trying to build a space marine army and I will definitely pick these up! + 1 sub and a like for sure!
Starting up a Space Marine army myself and still being new this helped me a lot, thanks Jay
Sustained 3 give you 3 EXTRA hits, its even better :D
Buy any box set? Marines are in everything lol
I got them from my 2nd edition sealed box, leviathon, first strike, know no fear,
has gladius been changed? i thought you can only have each doctrine just once in one turn per game
Very nice. Thank you. I hope there will be more videos like this for all the other factions. :)
my issue with the specialized chapter combat patrols is that theyre logos are stuck on their shoulders and are part of the model. really awesome, but im collecting ultramarines so im honeslty probably gonna get the space marine box.
i just like collecting them cause they look cool 😭 theyre so expensive
I know nothing much as ive just started but want the black templars for the look, already painted some space marines but i want some more templar stuff.
Don’t underestimate high dice feel no pains. I’ve had Scarabs with that 5+ from spiders absolutely demolish an enemy unit
Hey J, little of topic tho.... in video about your necron army, u saying that u repainted it like 3 times :) So have a question... did u strip them up from paint or basically re prime them before painting again? Thanks!😊
I already have 3 armies (I main space wolves) but now that I've got to grips with the game more I do find myself wanting to do an imperial fist descendant chapter based around anvil siege detachment with gravis armour EVERYWHERE. just sit on obj tanking stuff, blasting with heavy weapons and power fisting anything in the face that comes to close
just a heads up for some people incrusers only let you reroll SHOOTING not all attacks
I have all 4 assassins and I rotate them around. Haven't used Eversor (yet) but I have seen him used as an insanely good anti infantry missile. Will he get taken out next turn? Probably. Have I seen him delete an entire unit of infantry? Yeah
What a awesome video! Thank you!
big thx jay now i can add an extra 300 gbp to my christmas list xD
Hey Eon, im sorry to ask you of this but im trying to get into the hobby very slowly (mainly the price lol)
I want to ask if you could do a similar style video for an Adeptus Mechanicus army? Its the one im trying to build and paint and honestly a lot of the info surrounding what is a good starting point is so cluttered or unhelpful (from what i've been able to find)
Thank you very much
Pretty chuffed that as a newish/ returning player after 10+ years, my current roster I've been building bit by bit just about has the recommended lineup.
I haven’t played warhammer 40K in a while and I started buying the tall marines, would I be able to run my firstborns still or are they not allowed?
25mm bases are too small for Space Marines now. You'd need a converter to 32mm but until my Etsy ones arrive from Spain, cardboard discs work for me.
Depends on the unit.. some like bikes / landspeeders are retired but most still work
16:58 Bladeguard Ancient staring from the corner
Does the blood Angels combat patrol models have blood angles styling? Can the models in the box be used for any space marine chapter army?
Great advice!
Will you be making any QUAR content ?
Don't tempt me Jay! I just started Admech 😭
Masochist
@@piotrjeske4599 i know. But i got an awesome deal and just couldn't say no haha
How to start an admech army:
Step 1: choose another army.
I like that he gives strategic advice with some ideas other players did not come up with.
But he also mentions that he is pretty much loosing every game he plays…
So people might say his strategies aren’t that great. I like to think he is a brilliant strategist with amazingly bad dice-luck.
To be fair, he's mostly playing against the invincible Sean.
Thank you soooo much this helps so much.
Yeah I'm just doing great nights for right now and after I finish my thousand points then I'm either going to work on sisters of battle or loyalist iron warriors and my current plan for them is raptors and legionnaires and maybe a hellbrute but my main plan currently is one Terminator squad 3 raptor squads three legionnaire squads and two bikers squads which will put me at 905 points giving me enough for either a chaos rhino or another raptor or legionnaire squad or even another bike squad which would be 41 miniatures and with either the extra raptor or legionnaire squad that'll be 46 and with an extra bike squad that would be 44 and with the rhino or the hell brute that would be 42 and yes I know I have to play them as chaos and that's okay so I don't have to paint all that gaudy trim
Hang on, how can you troll with the teleport homer exactly? If you put it in one place and your opponent swarms it? Isn't that the only option to send the terminators? How exactly can they enter way across the other side of the board? Is the distance from the homer that big?
They have deep strike
Day 8 of asking Jay to paint a skitarii
Terminators and Dreadnoughts (ironclad) are my favorite units.
Loved this. I recently began my Imperial Fists army and so far I’ve got
Redemption Dreadnaught
Eradicators
Eliminators
Terminators
Captain w/ master crafted bolter
I want to do Agressors, intercessors either heavy or the standard, and possibly inceptors.
Does anyone have any other recommendations?
Old dark angels combat patrol or old space marines combat patrol are amazing
I'm new here and I'm having some problems understanding a couple of things. I'm looking to buy the Black Templars Combat Patrol. I understand that since they have two key faction words "Adeptus Astartes, Black Templars" I can't mix them with units that have for example "Adeptus Astartes, Space Wolves" but I can mix them with units that only have "Adeptus Astartes"?
Correct, your army can only come from one chapter. Google for pdfs of the rulebooks for now, may as well have more money for models
I really like this style of video hope we get a few more (Tyranids?)
17:00
The bladeguard ancient is 45 points ;)
Currently starting my Black Templar army! No idea how to play yet-
your advice on shooting priority shows why you lose every battle you play with Sean
If you're new and want to get into the hobby, I must warn you of 3 things:-
1) The parent company, GW, just put up all of their prices well above inflation. Even on kits that are over 20 years old. If you really want to buy something, buy it used from somewhere. They will keep increasing prices to an extortionate amount.
2) Unless you have somewhere to play already in mind, you will find games hard to set up. GW have been closing their shops as well as taking away the gaming spaces in their locations. No more painting stations, no more beginner nights. You may have had a demo game in a shop, but that's all they offer. And in the few places that do let you play, they're getting stricter on things that are not their products. You used to be able to convert your models by using third party kits or 3D printed parts. But now there are many horror stories of people who were refused game time because their models (that they own!) don't look like the ones on the box.
3) The current edition of the game, 10th, is considered the worst of all of them. Even 6th. All of the old rulebooks were made null and void, a first for the franchise. The biggest cull of units was put in place and is still continuing with each new rulebook released. Further to this, the rules are so broken that they just recently released a rewrite of the core moves. This rewrite was so messy that they released an FAQ immediately. And now they've had to add further clarification to the FAQ because it was worded so poorly. And since _THAT_ clarification, people have discovered that you can cheese a lot of extra movement out of certain units.
tl;dr - The game is in a disaster state. It's still playable, but _please_ consider putting your money elsewhere until things get fixed. There are so many other things to play with and paint. Don't give GW your money. No right now. Buy second-hand. Play older editions of the rules - the books go for cheap on eBay! Warhammer is really cool, but the game itself is not in a good place right now. Many people will defend GW or downvote this message because they will take it as an attack on themselves. It isn't. You guys are rad. But I want this hobby to be affordable and enjoyable for everybody, not just GW's shareholders.
hey Eon can you play with all sorts of space marines? Like playing with the blood angels and the ultramarines, like is that allowed in WH40K?
Basically no.
You can paint your guys as a mix of chapters.. but you have to use the rules for one at a time.
11:00 says intercessors and sticky objective, shows heavy intercessors
I would kill to have him paint my homebrew chapter
And do you have tips for new players
Get the most meta points efficient list as it’s also the most cheapest route
Is there currently no model for the eversor assassin right now? I can’t find it on GW’s website
I think Space Marines are completely fine army. They didn't do too bad in the current meta game. They have trillions ways of shooting and removing enemies units from the battlefield and is the scary army to play against. Don't trust the winrate on the website. The only reason why SM winrate is so low is that SM have too large player base and many of them isn't a veteran player which drag down the winrate. That why their winrate is very low. However in the right hand they are so op.
Speaking from the real life experience as a Tyranid player who always get table by SM. With thier 3 tanks they so op.
I never have my unit left after 4 turns of the game. Actually in our first match he wipe out my army turn one.
My group has good variation of factions but SM players get wiped pretty consistently. They're not in a good place because they have a few good units that are used at events, and then everything else is just bad by comparison and isn't properly adjusted because it's not used at events. My space wolves are lucky to get 50/50 with index orks, and the SM players combined have about 10% winrate against the local eldar and dark eldar players
As a Tau player this is bad advice and suggest you just get combat patrol space marines. About 5 of them. You will be the cool kid on the table.....trust me...
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The Space Marine Combat Patrol is so bad it's hilarious. GW really thinks all their customers are idiots