2015 VW Jetta TDi Turbo Diesel - First Drive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2014
- MotoMan drives the refreshed 2015 Jetta with the Turbo Diesel engine but rather than focusing on new lights & front end, he demonstrates the ENTIRELY new TDI Turbo Diesel engine and discusses the somewhat tragic history of diesel engines in America . . .
Also check out our 2015 MK VIIVW Golf GTI First Drive film:
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I have a 2012 TDI and return 37-38 mpg combined. I do mostly highway driving (70 mph) with a fair amount of in town driving as well. Love my Jetta!
I had a 2000 VW jetta diesel. I will not exaggerate on the statements I'm about to share. I commute every Sunday night from Phoenix az. To southern calif. 405.6 miles from my door to my office. I constantly drive at 79 mph. Not much traffic. Cruise control always. With the strongest head wind ever, all freeway lanes on I 10 covered with sand my lowest tank has been 40.3 normal jet stream wind 43 mpg. No wind, 47.3 . One time I took one for the team. 65 mph the entire trip. Right lane, semi trucks going around me. 68.7 mpg. Pretty impressive. Interesting I can do that much better at 65 than at 79 mph. My tdi is a 5 speed manual. Sold it to an employee with 324,000 miles on it.
Rand Pratt That is CRAZY awesome!!!
James O'Brien Any expensive maintenance?
Trevor Thayer I don't own
Trevor Thayer timing belts on all Vws cost about $900.00 so that's a bit expensive compared to around 300 for Asian cars, but other than that just normal maintainance and oil changes every 7500 miles
i just came from Europe and drove citroen cars, bmw and merc. i swear did now they are diesel and did not ask cus i was in a hurry. i went all over and drove crazily in germany in terms of going fast. i also drove slowly on either city and some highways to enjoy the scene there. i can't imagine how refine these cars and how interesting they are. i would prefer them cus i stays for a week on my crazy driving and the meter did not reach the half. i am so impressed with European cars in how refine they are and how amazing the 1.6 and 2 L engines are. it is a new era for me. also, almost one year ago i was in nj and ny and i was filling gas crazily almost every two days with way less driving than what i did in Eourpe. i am so so amazed with the new Diesel cars. it is way better than hybrids for one good reason.... i can go fast and drive all over and still the tank full!!!!!!!!! AMAZING smart people out there.
I recently purchased a 2015 VW Jetta TDI SEL. My last VW TDI was a 2011. Oh what a difference!! This car and engine is so much nicer than my previous TDI which I would categorize as a POS. I have had numerous TDI's. My first was in the early 80's when the horsepower rating was 50. Just prior to my purchase, I first test drove a 2015 Golf TDI automatic but did not like the way my right lower leg rubbed against the center console. I found it to be very uncomfortable in just a few miles. The center console on the Jetta was not a problem.
VW has finally got the Jetta TDI right. This car is leaps and bounds superior to the 2011. It flat out gets up and goes with no noticeable lag when first taking off. I inadvertently spun the front tires out of an intersection. You need to test drive one. Warning, if you are driving an older VW TDI, you will want a 2015 VW Jetta TDI. This guy is quicker, more powerful, better fuel economy, better ride, and a lot more luxurious. The only thing I did not like was the price I had to pay for it because I purchased the SEL with all the additional options. Oh well, I my as well enjoy what I am driving. This vehicle has collision avoidance warning, blind spot monitoring and backup sensor and backup camera. I have a 2013 Lexus RX350 and find myself wanting to drive the Jetta more. Maybe because it is so much more fuel efficient and fun to drive.
Hi Tom, any mpg numbers to share so far?
44 mpg combined 50+ freeway driving
Those are some good numbers. Enjoy the nice car.
We have a 2006 Jetta TDI. We were able to get 61mpg crossing the country from sc to San Diego! And that was with a Yakima box on top!
2014 Jetta TDI avg 46 in mix driving conditions, maxed it out a couple of time at 50 mpg.
I just got a 2015 Golf TDI DSG - I commute 47 to work each way in little-to-no traffic. In the first 1000 miles of operation Mon - Fri I average over 51mpg w/ the cruise control pegged at 71mph.
Bought 2013 TDI with DSG and averaged 38 mpg driving Uber, mostly city with some Hwy. Perfect car for Uber. Just traded 2013 in on 2015 TDI also with DSG. Better interior, better mileage, more power, better ride.
I have a mk5 jetta, bought it new and have averaged right around 40 mpg lifetime mileage with 245,000 on the clock all while having 150hp at the wheels and a 6sp manual.
That's what I'm talking about! You just inspired me more to buy a TDI Jetta with manual trans! Have you had any problems? Ever broke down or expensive maintenance or unexpected repair bills? Do you do your own maintenance or take it to dealer? How much does that cost on average? Thank you Zac. I'm looking at buying a Jetta TDI with manual trans for a delivery car! Long idle times, short trips,little traffic!
MrThat70svan With my aggressive driving I had issues with the 5sp, but haven't had a lick of trouble with 6sp, but I had a billet limited slip installed so I should be fine. Not exactly sure if your going to feel the benefit of a diesel with short trips and long idling as diesels love to just cruise and sip fuel.
Great video! I enjoy the history and your thought process.... subscribed!
Great review. Would love to see the golf GTD come to the U.S. There's been so much hype!
I live in Canada and have a 2013 Passat TDI. Commute every weekend Ottawa - Toronto, full tank (~$80) and lasts me a week to 10 days, city driving ~900KM, highway ~1350KM and combined ~1150KM.
I've got a 2014 VW Tiguan 2,0TDI 4Motion with a DSG and a 192HP remap as a company car. Recently went on a 700 mile round trip across a mountain pass in the winter with temperatures as low as 8 degrees Fahrenheit and tons of snow. We where two passengers while carrying about 900 pounds in books and averaged 40,6 MPG.
NICE!
I have a 04 TDI jetta wagon, manual transmission, the most Ive gotten from a full tank is just over 1000 kilometers
Great video! I subscribed and am looking forward to seeing more from you MotoMan! Keep up the good work! I will soon be joining the Go Diesal crowd and am debating between either the MK7 Golf TDI or Jetta TDI with a 6 speed manual for either car. Hopefully, you'll have more videos about these 2 options to further wet my appetite! Cheers
i do a TON of long distance driving with my 1998 MK3 Jetta TDI. it's a 5-speed and was literally owned by a little old lady.
I have changed out the suspension to Koni Str-t struts and H&R OE Sport springs, new timing belt and water pump, new alternator, new turbo lines, manifold/EGR cleaned, all new filters, new tires and some luxury items such as a new stereo and tinted windows and a Thule roof rack. I consistently get 53 mpg on the HWY and 43/45 city.
Wow the knowledge you through on us was fantastic. Keep it up!
I put 44k on a 2013 Passat TDI from 01/13 to August of this year when I traded for a new GLI. I loved my TDI and the Passat. I'm a truck guy, but VW has made a believer out of me. I'm actually contemplating picking up 15 Jetta TDI due to the number of miles I drive.
In the year and a half that I owned my Passat, city driving netted me around 37mpg and highway would vary between 48-56 depending on the road, winds and the weight of my foot that day.
Why did you trade your Diesel Passat for a gas Jetta? This would be helpful as I'm thinking of buying a Diesel VS gas Jetta myself!
I traded for a GLI Edition 30. Nothing was wrong with the passat, I just wanted something different. I usually trade every 18 months to keep from getting bored.
Chase Barnett so you're rich or you're leasing, you're upside down amount must be crazy
as always M, great video & keep up the excellent work
Hey MotoMan, gotta give it to you. You post some excellent videos and talk little known facts that for us "car geeks" like you say, are awesome. You definitely grew on me and now I watch everyone one of your videos within the first 36 hours so you can get more etc etc... well you know the rest. Ha ha Keep up the good work.
Whoever designed the front end of the car only knew how to draw straight horizontal lines. How exciting!;)
From Phoenix, AZ. I own a 2014 Jetta TDI, my driving is a combo of 80% side streets (35-45mph) and 20% Highway (65-80mph) I find an optimal speed in which I get the best mpg is 45-55mph returning an average of 42mpg! Even on some rare occasions when it is not so hot and the ac is off Ive seen a trip average of 56mpg!
I drive a 2011 Jetta TDI sedan with the DSG, and I average around 39 mpg in suburban driving outside of Charlotte, NC. In pure city driving, I get around 28-31 and on the interstate I get right around 50 mpg. I find the most efficient driving to be on country roads around 50 mph, getting about 55 mpg.
Sup George,
As always, thank you for all of the great entertainment that you have provided to fans like me. Keep up the great work!!
Regarding the VW Diesels MPG, as you may remember, I drive a 2014 VW Jetta TDI. I currently have a little over 13,000 miles on it since taking delivery of the car (brand New) at Galpin in Nonmember of 2013.
My commute consists of driving from Rancho Cucamonga, CA to North Hollywood 3-5 times a week, and the rest is around town, with the occasional weekend trip to the Peterson, Cars and Coffee, SuperCar Sunday etc.
My average MPG to date is 44 MPG, so
Best,
Felipe
P.S. Gulf Livery
TDI 6 Spd
I drive a 2012 Audi A3 TDI DSG auto 80% highway 20% city climate control and music on city averaging 5.4 L/100 km i.e 43.6 mpg...........My wife drives a 2012 Golf Wagon TDU 6sp manual 60% city 40% highway with music and climate control averaging 6.8 L/100 km i.e. 34.6 mpg....we've always driven diesels majority VAG TDI's absolutely love off the bat power in the city and great acceleration on the highway....the TDI's we've had in the last 14 years have been 100% reliable with no issues to report. Just want to add that we have religiously done oil changes every 10000 kms with proper spec german synthetic oil. Looking forward to replace my A3 with the Golf GTD if and when it arrive in North America.
Mixed driving 36-40. Most of the time 2012 Jetta TDI. Bigger air intake and exhaust plus German defeater computer. Fun
Lots of information, easy to digest. Appreciate your work, George!
Averaging 34 MPG city/hwy combined. 2000 Golf TDi (A/C on 90%) Cheers
In my 2012 Golf TDI, I get about 39-41 highway and 31-33 around town. I do a mixed bag of driving as I live in the 'burbs.
In our 2012 Passat we average 43 mpg[can get up to 50 all hwy] mixed with higher percentage being hwy and when more city 38-40 mpg driving about 400 miles a week.
I like that your reviews are a more technical
Once again, your videos are refreshing. You talk about the history of the cars and the companies, which most other reviewers fail to do.
If I were picking up a Diesel, I think I would be going with one from Mercedes-Benz. I think they have the refinement part down a little better than VW.
Who do you think has the best diesel engines (in terms of power, economy, noise/feel).
Exactly, that's why he's awesome, he keeps us interested and you know that what he's sayng comes from passion and investigation not from a 3 hour amateur internet only investigated script. I know the diesel question wasn't for me but i think it'd be a toss-up between BMW's 3.0 Liter TwinPower Turbo Diesel straight six and VW group's 3.0 Liter TDi V6 used by VW, Audi and Porsche. Somehow others not even Mercedes Benz who are diesel engine pioneers and advocates seem to get rid of clatter.
Fer Pareja Thanks for the answer (really it was directed at anyone). I'm surprised to hear that BMW's is up there. I'll have to investigate that one further.
Fer Pareja Thank you for the kind words . . .
Fer Pareja I had a 2011 BMW 335d that I had to sell while under warranty. Be careful of the new emission system, it was at the dealer most of the times with all kinds of emission sensor issues. My father in laws Mercedes E320 Bluetec V6 3.0 Diesel 2009 with a little over 100k kms [60k miles] barely out of warranty had DPF [Diesel particulate filter] completely clogged, $3500 to fix parts and labor at independent mechanic at dealer it would be upwards of $6000. Have never had such issues with VW or Audi diesels, trust when I say we have a lot of diesels in our family. My A3 has over 100000 miles on it. Just sharing real experience not affiliated with any of these companies.
Then +achuck4321 should take your word for it, mine was just an opinion based on what I've read. So we both agree on VW/Audi then that's the way to go I guess.
Now that Top Gear blew up I found a new abbreviated car show that suits my taste and interest. Good work! 2012 Jetta TDI high line 80% city. The wife is averaging 6L/100km. DSG. Previous 2002 Chipped modded Jetta high line 5 SPD. I routinely got 5.5L/100km driving like I stole it...
Peter Lacza Appreciate the kind words . . . RESPECT on the MPG . . .
2011 Golf TDI with DSG. 65% city 35% highway, and still getting 36-39 MPG average, depending on how aggressive I drive. I hit 500 miles every tank easily, which equates to a $40 fill up every three weeks or so.
I get 52.7 in the city over 60 on the highway. I use it got my daily work and shopping and sometimes traveling
Nice video!
'13 Passat TDI. General commute BS (not like the BS you might find in the pasture on this video) the car does about 35 mpg without even trying to get mpg's. Took it on a vacation trip last summer for about 1000 miles and it averaged 46 mpg even while cruising most of the way on interstate at 78 MPH and that is no BS. Great car and engine. DSG transmission is great also.
2012 Jetta TDI - We drive mostly interstate driving and country highway, anywhere from 60MPH to 100MPH mixed driving and we AVG about 42 MPG with this aggressive driving. If we drive "normal" we can get 52MPG!!!
I am getting 34.9 mpg in the city and 55.3 mpg on the highway from my 2012 Jetta TDI
So did you get the chance to drive a diesel SEAT FR in Europe?
Well, I have a marvelous VW Beetle 1.9L TDI pumpe-düse, my driving is a combination of 60% City (37mph) and 40% Highway (45-60mph) I have done a 630 miles trip, still had a half tank of fuel remaining! (please note: I've noticed the 1.9L TDI pumpe-düse will do a very conservative 650 mile on one tank with 14.5 gallons) Cheers! :-)
"While diesel cars are available in many countries around the world, Volkswagen has been the only manufacturer selling diesel cars in Canada or the US (other than the Mercedes E320 CDI starting at $52,000US). Sometimes the TDI is considered a "niche" product and I've venture to guess that is one reason there is such a unique crowd of members. Where else can you say economy and performance in the same sentence? With this economy, one can also get great range. While not typical, here is an example of someone getting 1400 miles (2254km) on one tank of diesel.
There are three main generations of TDI's found in North America. The first generation was available till 2004 used a distributor-type fuel pump and are designated VE engines and were 1.9l in size. After that VW introduced the Pumpe-Düse (unit injector) engines (PD for short) that were sold in Canada and the US from 2004 till 2006. The third and latest generation of TDI engines which finally arrived in 2008 are common rail and call a 'Clean Diesel'. As you can see there was a bit of a hiatus on the avialability of TDI's during 2007 which was due to changes in US and Canadian emission regulations.
The PD found in the New Beetles, Jettas, and Golfs are rated at 100hp and 177ft.lbs torque from a 1.9l engine. The B5 Passat with it's 2.0l TDI pumped out 134 hp and 247 ft.lbs of torque. The king of power is the 5.0l 310HP V10 Touareg that puts out 553 ft.lbs of torque.
Demand for TDIs is extremely high. An example is in 2005 Canadian sales of TDIs accounted for over 50% of models where a TDI was an option. Another example is in 2006 the Jetta wagon was ONLY available as a TDI, they didn't even bother with other engine types."
Cheers! :-)
I agree with the adjustments to the tuning and suspension, feels a little trampolinie with certain speeds and accelerations on uneven roads.
Averaging 55+ mpg 600+ miles per tank. $25,000 car.
Great informative video but does it bother anybody else that he's revving that TDI so high? :D
2015 Jetta TDI, average 53mpg HW, low fuel light doesn't come on until I hit 720miles, can easily make it to 800mi on a tank,
Thanks for the article/video…….have been buying and driving Jetta TDI's for the last 15 years and have become a loyal Diesel enthusiast. Average 43mpg with my 2010 Jetta TDI, mostly highway miles. Love the torque, the nimble handling, and the economy……dislike the quirky DSG trans. Very nervous and jerky when downshifting and in low speed situations. When the big change came in 2011, I totally rebelled against VW and swore I would not buy another VW TDI unless they upgraded the interior trim levels and restored the suspension system to something more worthy of it's German heritage. I refuse to drive a Camry with a VW badge!! Looks like they did something with the quality of the interior trim for 2015 which is good….now if they act on the suspension I might be a fan of VW again……until then I am looking elsewhere. Curious to see what Mazda does with it's Diesel if it ever gets to the States…..
52 or 53mpg in extended highway driving with the Jetta TurboDiesel...Love the car but may trade it in. What would be a good replacement???
I get 44 mpg high way 2015 jetta tdi sel …. I love it ..
Does your TDI take any kind of fuel additive? What kind of oil do you use? Thanks :)
MotoMan...just watched one of your videos for the first time...I enjoyed it and will watch more.
Comment...
You BARELY mentioned the torque numbers (esp when you talked about the history of diesels)...instead you talked almost exclusively of horse power.
One suggestion...
I think talking almost exclusively in horse power numbers does a HUGE dis-service to ALL automobile engines, but esp to diesels, as it's TORQUE that we all drive everyday...it's TORQUE that we feel as we accelerate...and diesels EXCEL in the torque department.
I had a 1997 Passat TDI (that I also converted to run on used vegetable oil), and that little 1.9L engine would PULL from very low RPM's (1500)...that was torque of course...the torque from that little engine would put to shame even much larger gasoline engines. I could pull a 2500 pound trailer up a long hill on the interstate at 75mph (and 6000 feet above sea level) and the Passat's 1.9L engine maintained speed like the trailer wasn't there.
Diesels have had a tough time in the U.S for a number of reasons, but one, for sure, is that Americans have been conditioned to think of "power" only in terms of horsepower, and, when diesel horsepower numbers are talked about, many Americans turn away because those numbers have typically sounded anemic.
Anyway...please help to educate folks that it's TORQUE that matters when you drive a car, and diesels have a LOT of it, while also obtaining huge MPG numbers (which we really need as a planet)..
First off, TOTALLY agree with you . . . in the Diesel world, it is ALL about Torque . . . If you go through our back catalog, you will see A LOT of Diesel films (can you say addiction) and in ALL of those I beat on the concept of torque so much, let's just say that I am in no fear of ever becoming a horse whisperer . . . That said, the point I was harping on here was the build strategy of this new engine family. The interchangeability of parts between different engine sizes and how the new engine performs. So, yes, I do throw in the torque number there at the beginning but the specific point of this film was something more than my usual blabbering on about Torque and converting the Prius faithful to diesel . . . Thanks for watching and reaching out . . .
Just painful to watch... Americans have no clue how to drive diesels, I mean the guy was reving the engine at 3000 rpm when he was driving normally. Drive it under 2000 rpm and you will get consumption of less than 5 l/100 km - 65 mpg plus you won't hear the engine at all.
Londons Finest Yeah, that's true too. I've seen his review of the Mk7 Golf R and it was pretty much the same story.
Nice generalization. Act like everyone in the EU can drive manual perfectly and I've seen a lot that can't. Not only that, we'll never get 65mpg because you don't realize that mpg in the US and some other countries is different measurement to the EU measurement of mpg
You're talking about imperial mpg
Londons Finest Yeah the majority of America don't drive manual and it's not that they're bad at it. It's more of, since it's the norm to have an automatic then no need for a manual. Not their fault I have both honestly. You guys also have high insurance rates as well based on types of cars.
+Michael Dao and manuals no longer get better MPG anymore, manuals are DEAD
volkswagen puts cheaper suspension for US market so the price can be lower than EU prices
I would have liked to learn more about the car itself, like mpg, features, and more. You spent way too much time relating it to the GLI, when this is a completely different animal because its diesel.
This video has some incorrect facts. Vanagon's never came with a 1.9 N/A or turbo diesel. At least not in the US to my knowledge. Very rarely did they come with a 1.6 N/A and 1.6 TD IDI diesel. Originally Rabbits came with a 1.5 diesel that had the same horsepower as the 1.6 that came later, only difference between the two was the cylinder head had better support between the valves in the 1.6 (1.5 diesels were prone to cracking between valves). So it went from 1.5l to 1.6l (N/A and rarely ECO diesel) later in the 70's, and VW kept the 1.6 throughout the second generation of Golf and Jetta. The third generation of Golf and Jetta introduced the 1.9 TDI, which was the first direct injected diesel engine that had 90bhp. The 4th gen kept the same 1.9 TDI, and later in the generation bumped it to 110bhp. 5th generation of Golf and Jetta kept the same 1.9 TDI 110bhp. Sixth generation was the introduction into the 2.0 TDI. As far as I know the US never got the 1.9 N/A. Canada got it, but not the US. It's a very common swap for people who want more power in their older diesel VW's. Great video none the less. Love the approach to a car review. Very refreshing.
Thank you for pronouncing Volkswagen properly.
You made some mistakes here... The 90HP... it was in the 1.9 liter and then was bumped up to 100HP, still a 1.9 liter. 2.0 liter then went to 140. Now for 2015, 150HP.
Aerated the change again was 2009, not 2008. You should use index cards. :-)
And because you asked: 2000 1.9 5M 40/50MPG. 2014 2.0 6M 40/50 MPG :)
Problem is VW has been just caught cheating on diesel emissions, so the problem is huge.
+starview1 its not a problem! move on clown
first last Ha it is a problem, VW has serious class actions against it for the cheating they did, get with it.
+starview1 LMAO! your thinking is so yesterday, your no where near being
as you say 'get with it' your clueless my friend, what are you 18??
lol, too funny 'get with it' WV has been trying to fix the problem
LONG........... before they were busted back in Sept 2015!! they have
NO fix you clown, wake up, and if you think your silly so called class
action suit means anything YOUR the one who needs to 'get with it!'
even if you people win your so called silly class action suit, all you
will get is a few bucks! class action suits are for losers!! and most
people 'who are with it! know it !!! lol so have a nice day!
firstname lastname You clearly have zero idea of what you're talking about.
VW resale prices drop 13 to 20%
VW CEO resigns
Resale values on Volkswagen's diesel cars in the U.S. have taken hits in all models not just the faulty diesel .
Facts are on my side and the VW problem is worldwide.
I no longer own a VW as there are better values in the market place.
Clearly VW was cheating for many years by intent.
Diesel in the US: Strike one -the GM debacle. Strike two - In 1973, VW admits to installing an emission defeat device, is fined $120,000 by the EPA, agrees to never do it again. Strike three and you're out?
@ 4:30 those poor cows :(
Waving hands is not talking.
Change up from third gear moto man!!
100 miles /gallon at 1mph
Poor engine, must have suffered a lot while the driver was talking. It was in third gear at almost 4000 rpm
Now who's buying this?
This video is just too painful to finish.
Jetta TDI SEL 2. liter turbo diesel 2015. I get 600-650 miles on a single tank. Sorry EV owners. But you've got nothing on this.
He looks cramped. I'm tired of shrinking cars. Are people comfortable in a Jetta?
what the fuck is he talking about... review the performance, upgrades, mileage, etc. rather than explaining the valve movement and going into the history of the company..
one of the worst review